Toxic Rocket League Players vs the BOT they called out

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Rocket Sledge

Rocket Sledge

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@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Download the FREE Rocket League Tracker App: link.overwolf.com/rltracker-rocketsledge so you can know ahead time if your teammate is a BOT...and not the good kind. 😉
@Nixias_
@Nixias_ 2 жыл бұрын
That sponsorship was clean ngl
@xeshanzgamer2059
@xeshanzgamer2059 2 жыл бұрын
yup
@jacksonrampage4598
@jacksonrampage4598 2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY these people keep watching the bots pov and think they can win. You should show them what it looks like to get you're ankles broken with pure calculations and no mechanics.
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonrampage4598 Well all the videos were in director cam so they should have had some idea what to expect. Regardless, this is the reality of ANY video that is said to have a certain rank in it. People don't understand watching is different than playing and your rank isn't based on a few minutes of footage.
@Rixxile
@Rixxile 2 жыл бұрын
this is only effective on windows 7, and 10. if you are on 11 it is unsupported
@Woodyyyy
@Woodyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Okayyyy Sledge. I see where we stand. Can't believe you would expose my real ranks like that....
@RetTheEditor
@RetTheEditor 2 жыл бұрын
I've spent so much time editing them out 😭
@LIamaaaaa
@LIamaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Just a casual bo11
@KarlwithaC
@KarlwithaC 2 жыл бұрын
inb4 some people actually think those are your real ranks
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 2 жыл бұрын
You did get them both tho' respect ahha
@Woodyyyy
@Woodyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@KarlwithaC those 2700+ games of 1s I "played" should be the biggest giveaway 🤣
@Valfheim
@Valfheim 2 жыл бұрын
Nexto is utterly brutal. If he gets that ball on top of his car, it's already too late.
@mememaster8050
@mememaster8050 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but it is also a really good practice for defending flicks
@vball4eva0
@vball4eva0 2 жыл бұрын
The only hope I had when I tried a 1v1 with Nexto was to wait until the very last second, shadowing the whole way. Then it was *sometimes* forced to flick off of the bar and it would leave an opening for a goal. But if you challenge a split second too early, it's in your net
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 2 жыл бұрын
Necto was already deadly on flicks, the only way to beat him was to fake challenge constantly. Nexto is like Necto but without the dumb overcommits
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 2 жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis Nexto over commits all the time, that's how I got the win over him
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 2 жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis Nexto over commits all the time, that's how I got the win over him
@dimitrisk.papadopoulos
@dimitrisk.papadopoulos 2 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting to add these bad boys in the game and I think it would benefit a lot of players to hone their skills with a much more predictable behavior (both when playing against and with a bot locally). It has really helped me back when RL basic bots were still a threat, so maybe some higher skilled bots would help elevate your skill level when you feel like you've reached your peak.
@connorking984
@connorking984 2 жыл бұрын
Well I played a ton against necto and now a fair bit against nexto 1v1, I feel my dribbling, shadow defense, fakes, and 50s have all been improved by a substantial margin. I haven't been flicked in my actual c3 rank in a while, I'm disgustingly good at shadow defense. That being said I still only maintain a 1/4 goal ratio, some games end 10-40 in favor of nexto. that being said I'm somewhat hesitant in my games because playing nexto requires being very defensive punctuated with all out pushes which I'm not very good at.
@ryzikx
@ryzikx 2 жыл бұрын
you can play against them now with rlbot gui
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG 2 жыл бұрын
and nice for offline play
@itismeandnooneelse
@itismeandnooneelse 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryzikx not on console
@Fightikus
@Fightikus 2 жыл бұрын
@@connorking984 Hello, I don't mean to flame you but how do you get scored on 40 times? Are you playing 5 minute long matches? Because that sounds like an awful lot of kickoff goals.
@WriteARead
@WriteARead 2 жыл бұрын
As a part of the Rlgym/Rlbot community, seeing this kind of content flourish makes me happy. Great video Sledge.
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@Clxyytt
@Clxyytt 2 жыл бұрын
Love how pathogenical had to get a gc to carry him in a 2v2 against bots for champs he called out lmao
@TCollie
@TCollie 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the reason people think they can beat the bots is because they aerial like a diamond or Champ 1, but have the ground game of a high SSL. They see that the bot can't aerial and assume that level of skill applies to the whole game whereas the ground game is actually better than some pros.
@fIayff
@fIayff 2 жыл бұрын
Judgin good ground and macro play is waaaay more difficult than judging good aerials. Not only subjective ("damn that aerial looked sick af") but also objective because aerials contain easier noticable information about player skill
@jordan9604
@jordan9604 2 жыл бұрын
@@fIayff I am Nexto lite. I aerial like a low plat but my decisions and ground game get me to c2-c3
@gblawrence034
@gblawrence034 2 жыл бұрын
It can aerial though and it’s pretty fast as well. It just picks it’s moments and doesn’t do any of the fancy stuff. It’s fast aerials are probably at least as efficient as a GC
@PixlBTW
@PixlBTW Жыл бұрын
The bots are too good to be going around doing "aerials" duh
@widepeepohappy1969
@widepeepohappy1969 2 жыл бұрын
the guy that tried 1v2ing nexto has no idea that even professional players had a tough time beating the 1v2. I heard mawkzy had to do 15 or so games to beat the 1v2
@WriteARead
@WriteARead 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he sacrificed his sanity to win.
@nyhx9452
@nyhx9452 2 жыл бұрын
true, from what I've seen only he and fairy peak have taken a game off of them in a 1v2. I was able to do the 1v2 in 5 attempts. Now I do it everyday as a warmup, required to get the win before I can play.
@banded30099
@banded30099 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyhx9452 LMFAOOO
@banded30099
@banded30099 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyhx9452 LMFAOOO
@nanni5230
@nanni5230 2 жыл бұрын
It's literally easy though? I could definitely 1v3 it no problem. Or even better, let me 1v2 their new version of the bot when it comes out
@imdarling17
@imdarling17 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm better than those champs!" *Also brings in higher ranked player to still get blown out*
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
BuT iTs bC tHeY wErE dEaLiNg wItH hIgH pInG OmFg cAn't yOu sEe
@xavierthecarnerd
@xavierthecarnerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bweyg tbh that’s their fault or being EU players and challenging NA bots
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
@XavierTheCarNerd tbh that's your fault for not seeing that the comment I made was a joke
@xavierthecarnerd
@xavierthecarnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Tf if wrong with both of you. I wasn’t even taking it seriously, I was just explaining why it’s their fault.
@xavierthecarnerd
@xavierthecarnerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bweyg then explain to me why you got mad at me for saying why it their fault. I didn’t even insult you.
@orestislomis2109
@orestislomis2109 2 жыл бұрын
I have been 1v2ing Necto and now that Nexto(v1710, there are even better version not publicly available atm) has come out 1v1ing it these past weeks and both are insane. For reference I'm a washed gc, who is now about c3. 1v2ing Necto is especially difficult because of the unfair kick offs and such, because I do feel like I'm a lot better, but it was extremely difficult to actually beat it 1v2. Nexto is a different beast. When it comes to its ground game it might just be the best player in the world, at least in 1s (of course I have never played someone like Mawkzy but still). Maybe it's different in 2s where you need more speed and can't just beat 1 person, but it's timing is always perfect. The power is always perfect. Not just full power everytime, it can come real close and do a controlled flick over you. It's also extremely difficult to fake challenge contrary to Necto who is fairly fake challengeable. So if you give nexto any space to start its dribble you're basically done. In defense its reactions are insane and its ability to make goalline saves without panicking is also amazing. The bot also is never 'awkward' since it doesn't really care about camera orientation or whatever. And while it's not that good at dodging bumps, it recovers from them so fast. Humans need a second to reorient themselves, but Nexto is right into the play, usually bumping it actually helps it gain speed. It does have a few weaknesses. It's mostly not that good at defending aerial solo plays. That's pretty much the only way to score against it. And luckily it does give space to set the shot up often when it goes back for boost. And while I said it recovers perfectly from bumps, demoes are very effective against it. But the biggest weakness by far are the kickoffs. Not that its actual kickoffs are bad, they are pretty good in fact. The big problem is that you can just not go for kickoff and will often have an immediate counter goal. But don't be fooled, this bot is insane. I haven't been able to beat it yet. And as a computer science student myself I applaud the developers of the bot. Insane achievement.
@vball4eva0
@vball4eva0 2 жыл бұрын
I found the demo and kickoff weaknesses as well (I might have found the aerial solo play weakness if I had any aerial skills at all), but I also found one other weakness. It has a perfect ground game, but if you shadow it almost all the way to your net and then challenge, it is forced to flick high and sometimes it will flick off the bar, leaving an open net for you to score. Other than that, it clapped me to the next century as a current GC1 Edit: Oh and also boost starving can actually be pretty effective, but Nexto doesn't care about boost so you just have to play it right when you know its tank is empty
@orestislomis2109
@orestislomis2109 2 жыл бұрын
@@vball4eva0 I find boost starving kinda hard because it will just dribble to your net really fast. But you are right about waiting with the challenge but it rarely smashes the bar. It just puts it over you and makes it awkward and immediately reads it of the backboard. I do think the way to actually defend the dribbles is twofold. If nexto isn't really facing you just drive challenge without jumping. It will flick you everytime, but you don't care because the flick will be high and you have all the momentum so you can wrap around and either take away the ball or even better demo it. That works pretty well. Then if it is dribbling on the side of the field you can just wait until it comes really close and then just make sure there are no gaps in your net. Just be patient and usually nexto won't even flick it in that position if you don't dive in. The most difficult part is when it is coming at you through the middle of the field. You have to try to do a drive challenge in order to make it flick while you're able to recover, but when it is coming at you like that its flicks are deadly. This is how I have actually beaten it today, but of course it's still easier said than done.
@YanDa739
@YanDa739 2 жыл бұрын
how did you get the other version of nexto
@orestislomis2109
@orestislomis2109 2 жыл бұрын
@@YanDa739 Nexto v1710 is the only available one through the modpack right now. If you don't have it you should try to update the RLBotGui
@boosted91
@boosted91 2 жыл бұрын
It's weaknesses that I've found after beating it twice: 1. Over aggression in your own corner especially when the ball is on the wall, you can score most of your goals from counter attacks from there. 2. If he goes back for boost and gives it to you to dribble. He does not shadow. He'll sit in front of net. This leaves him open to air dribble bumps and good 45degree flicks . 3. He also always "falls" for fake challenges, so if he's on his side, fake challenge and he'll always flick it away just to get it over you. Then just hit it into your corner. If he's on your side of the field never fake if he's got good control of the ball. I've found the best way to defend is to slow down right in front of the net shadowing him then bait out a flick with one jump + boost and react accordingly. A lot of times he'll flick it high just to get it over but it'll hit the backboard. 4. There's also the demo and kickoff weaknesses. Sometimes he'll just hit it straight to you on kickoff, but I don't go for the cheese.
@speedyJ0hnny
@speedyJ0hnny 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a GC player. Spent like an hour vsing Nexto and can say that if you play normally you will get smoked. The only way I was able to consistently beat the bot was to have a lot of boost in defence and then pre jump while shadowing but hover in the air and not dive in. I think this confuses the program since any time I jumped and was close I would get flicked and any time I would jump and was far the bot would drop it and go underneath. These bots are insanely impressive
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, there is definitely a way to counter it's playstyle at least if you're at above a certain level (I'd say you need to be at least C3 mechanically), then you can beat him if you counter it's offense with a ton of fake challenges. It's awesome that these bots are finally at a high level, I wonder if they're ever gonna be pro level or higher.
@dannicron
@dannicron 2 жыл бұрын
is it already publicly available?
@ammazinghors9739
@ammazinghors9739 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannicron Jup
@speedyJ0hnny
@speedyJ0hnny 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannicron yea
@dannicron
@dannicron 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, can't wait to get absolutely stomped! (Not running with the theme of this video here lol)
@brox2153
@brox2153 2 жыл бұрын
As much you complain or yell at the people around you or see footage of your peers and think you're better than them - you're the rank you are for a reason. It's easy to focus on your teammates and blame them. It's much harder to be critical of yourself and notice your own faults. Focus on what you can do to improve, and you'll rank up. It's what everyone did and does to rank up.
@Yuhara_rev
@Yuhara_rev 2 жыл бұрын
5:29 9:04 damn sledge's being a lot more savage than usual in this video
@dinoriq_waterfox
@dinoriq_waterfox 2 жыл бұрын
sledge said i want to you uim not boring LOL
@MartianMoon
@MartianMoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinoriq_waterfox what
@alphalance9408
@alphalance9408 2 жыл бұрын
True
@HostileHitman
@HostileHitman 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinoriq_waterfox did you have a stroke
@ape.4156
@ape.4156 2 жыл бұрын
Im just getting advertisements?
@RetTheEditor
@RetTheEditor 2 жыл бұрын
Took 3 1v1s before I finally beat nexto. Its fricken scary when he's carrying the ball.
@christiandelvalle282
@christiandelvalle282 2 жыл бұрын
Saying it only took 3 attempts to beat Nexto is a humble flex
@widepeepohappy1969
@widepeepohappy1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiandelvalle282 No idea what retselm did, but the bot is horrible at saving aerial and demo plays, and you can cheese the bot a lot by forcing it to slow down or make shit challenges
@christiandelvalle282
@christiandelvalle282 2 жыл бұрын
@@widepeepohappy1969 I noticed that as well. It didn’t know how to challenge/save ceiling shots and it made some poor challenges. The most important thing though is winning/getting possession off kickoffs (which is true in 1v1 generally). Conceding possession off kickoff is especially bad against Nexto bc its flick game is so good.
@malcompage8996
@malcompage8996 2 жыл бұрын
The creator of the bot put it against pros on 1v2. It beat Fairy 3-1, Mawkzy 3-0, and Extra (forgot to score). I want to see what it is like when it reaches ssl.
@dudeimdudely7477
@dudeimdudely7477 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiandelvalle282 i did it first try whaddup
@moki6887
@moki6887 2 жыл бұрын
Necto and Nexto are absolutely cracked. Its a really good bot to train your 1s gameplay and get better at defense. It really helped me out even though I can’t win against it yet.
@MartianMoon
@MartianMoon 2 жыл бұрын
You should train a bot on Evample’s gameplay so we can see bots doing 360 drift dribbles stuntin on people 😂
@jacksonbloemker4149
@jacksonbloemker4149 2 жыл бұрын
WAIT ACTUALLY THATS A GREAT IDEA
@ooMVBoo
@ooMVBoo 2 жыл бұрын
please do this - it would bet insane!
@hijonk9510
@hijonk9510 2 жыл бұрын
This is a reinforcement learning bot. It doesn't learn by looking at data, but by by playing itself a zillion times
@Lydipai
@Lydipai 2 жыл бұрын
Toxic takedown: bots edition
@graysonh110
@graysonh110 2 жыл бұрын
the most annoying thing about the necto bot is that it never ever lays off on the pressure - seems like it would get very frustrating
@Spud_Farmer
@Spud_Farmer 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point
@christianwoodbury2480
@christianwoodbury2480 2 жыл бұрын
If you keep boost, he will leave offense... eventually
@R1deTheL1ghtn1ng
@R1deTheL1ghtn1ng 2 жыл бұрын
4:53 in these days Platins are already this good or even better. 1 year ago champions(after diamond) played like this. Bronze:can’t do anything Silver:They can atleast move Gold:Can dribble and can do some wall shots Platin:Can do air dribble but lucky miss the goal most of time I am Platin but not for long I guess. I am very bad at dribbling and more a safe and defensive player.
@battleboss1021
@battleboss1021 2 жыл бұрын
Those "champs" that said "The champs from the video aren't champs" aren't champs 😂 Keep up the good work🙏
@Advix
@Advix Жыл бұрын
at one point there will be a plat thats gonna say: I am a plat and I can do a backwards obama triple musty into 20touch airdribe quintiple flipreset into double psycho grond pinch 360 km/h while only having 1 boost and not using airroll and jump
@patricktipaldo7343
@patricktipaldo7343 2 жыл бұрын
Since the bots are so ground oriented is would be interesting to see if a more grounded player or ariel player does better against them. very grounded here if interested.
@Mrchasez
@Mrchasez 2 жыл бұрын
We've seen from pros, they can't handle good flip resets or back board double taps. So definitely the air.
@dudeimdudely7477
@dudeimdudely7477 2 жыл бұрын
i'm a completely grounded player, c1 in 1s and beat it first try
@_guma_2065
@_guma_2065 2 жыл бұрын
I want so much for Flakes to play with them
@RubiksHnK
@RubiksHnK 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrchasez They are weak against air but as a Plat 3 in 1s, I can beat Necto pretty consistently and hold my own against v17 nexto with a plat/diamond friend on high ping using almost all ground as a D3/C1 in 2s.
@Qwty163
@Qwty163 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video to genuinely make me sad because it ended
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have 3 other "toxic takedown" videos is you want more of this (without bots of course): kzbin.info/www/bejne/nquUiJ-amJ11f9E
@VTECPanda
@VTECPanda 2 жыл бұрын
I'm low GC2 and it took me 3 tries to beat Nexto in a 2v2 with my GC1 mate. Got absolutely annihilated in the first game 12-4 and only ended up managing to win 3-1 in the third game. One hell of a capable bot.
@R6Leviathan
@R6Leviathan 2 жыл бұрын
How did you download nexto?
@VTECPanda
@VTECPanda 2 жыл бұрын
@@R6Leviathan I wouldn't know actually. My mate was the one who hosted the game and did all the setup, all I did was join his game and Nexto was already there. I'm sure you can find the answer in the RL Bot discord at the link in the video's description.
@drone8686
@drone8686 2 жыл бұрын
This is cap nexto ain’t public
@The_Xeos
@The_Xeos 2 жыл бұрын
@@drone8686 Nexto 1710 is available in the RLBot pack (has been for a few days now)
@drone8686
@drone8686 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Xeos yeah not for me all I see is nectos
@jamesingular23
@jamesingular23 2 жыл бұрын
I think the part of the necto/nexto bots that people dont expect is they seem to adapt to and counter their opponents play styles so even if youre doing good at the start of the game you can go down 4 goals in the last couple minutes
@mrtwister5170
@mrtwister5170 2 жыл бұрын
was a blast playing against the next i was insanely difficult and to anyone that has doubts about the bots abilities i can tell you now they are insane and will beat you!😊
@boots3372
@boots3372 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a champ 2/3. I played Nexto 1v1 and 2v2 (I got a Nexto) and they absolutely annihilated me, like as if I were a bronze. They had 40 some goals in 30 minutes and I had 1. 1 Goal..... ONE.
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even think I could get one considering I'm d3 XXDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@jc-nl3009
@jc-nl3009 2 жыл бұрын
0:56 that loss streak though💀
@cc_Retr0
@cc_Retr0 2 жыл бұрын
He actually said gg to a bot 💀
@RealSemiComp
@RealSemiComp 2 жыл бұрын
What is with everyone's end game just falling apart in this video does Nexto just magically upgrade near the end?
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
I did notice that. I think it's more about consistency. Humans start out well but then can't maintain, while the bot never changes. Though not every game in this video was like that.
@Ashton.hawkins
@Ashton.hawkins 2 жыл бұрын
i’m gc 2 and this bot is really tough to beat. i learned you can cheese it on kickoff and score about everytime. other than that if you don’t take the ball in the air it’s tough to score
@MarcIndy333
@MarcIndy333 2 жыл бұрын
The day is coming when someone says ‘you’re a total bot’ and it’s actually a compliment.
@AaronBreezeComposer
@AaronBreezeComposer 2 жыл бұрын
These bots finally give cocky Plats (GCs stuck in Plat) the chance to challenge Champ/GC level bots - many players will be humbled by these bots for sure! They're so fun to play against - I've happily sat for hours trying to beat necto but consistently falling short by 1-2 goals. Did not stand a chance against nexto...
@Dapzzi_gaming
@Dapzzi_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I'm champ 2 and I can't beat nexto so I knew the result of game 4 instantly. people need to leave their egos at the door when judging something they've not actually experienced themselves
@NicolasJACK-son
@NicolasJACK-son 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair in a lot of the videos the rank is misrepresented because the person must be stressed, so if you put in a person, they may normally play better but when trying to defend their comment they are prolly also stressed
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Right, so that makes it equal comparison.
@jamster251
@jamster251 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna trash talk just to be in a video xD Nice vid. Always fun, my dude.
@evangray4243
@evangray4243 2 жыл бұрын
love when you setup an event its just gold
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 2 жыл бұрын
"With smurfs, you have to be GC to survive" Yes, but the people who are GC not only survived but they thrived to the point of ranking out of there lmao.
@ParvinderSinghSaini
@ParvinderSinghSaini 2 жыл бұрын
Logic over 9000 lmao
@sethp26
@sethp26 2 жыл бұрын
Getting from champ 3 to gc is hell. Glad I've been able to hang on to gc since season 11 bc i dont want to go back through that But yeah that's a stupid argument
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 2 жыл бұрын
ahahha I'm glad i reverse trash talked one of the guys on one of your videos... Saying that he looked way better than his reported rank. As Nexto would rekt my shit if i had gone the opposite way lol
@martah93
@martah93 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing toxic commenters get their ass whooped lmao and also seeing Woody's real rank
@dark_colour5204
@dark_colour5204 2 жыл бұрын
I think the bots are scarier because they are so consistent
@CompadreTlacuache
@CompadreTlacuache 2 жыл бұрын
I played against necto and element (another bot like necto) to train and it took me some days to start winning consistently. These bots are great 'cause they force you to do a lot of air dribbles since they don't really go up in the air
@kendallblakely3661
@kendallblakely3661 2 жыл бұрын
That transition to the ad was 🔥
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cnote7408
@cnote7408 2 жыл бұрын
These bots are tough to beat - though I did see Extra from BDS 1 vs 3 the Nexto bots by mostly keeping the ball in the air.
@The_Xeos
@The_Xeos 2 жыл бұрын
Extra did the 1v3 in the early days of Nexto's training, but the current version of Nexto is nearly unbeatable in 1v2
@gblawrence034
@gblawrence034 2 жыл бұрын
Since the bots are improving constantly I don’t think anyone will beat them in a 1v2 ever again
@The_Xeos
@The_Xeos 2 жыл бұрын
@@gblawrence034 Well it depends, the third version will still have to start learning from scratch so it'll be beatable in 1v2 in the early days of the v3 :)
@rinteh7620
@rinteh7620 2 жыл бұрын
When are people going to learn that this game ‘looks’ easy, it’s not…
@Hellorthere
@Hellorthere 2 жыл бұрын
When it actually comes to the gameplay people just don't understand that the pressure and being nervous or maybe even just the fact they're not better than the people who play in the videos is really annoying. Just accept it and watch the video. Rocket sledge puts a lot of work into the videos.
@bltsammich9760
@bltsammich9760 2 жыл бұрын
NGL - as a super silly silver, mixing up a team of bots with and against Necto, and just set to unlimited time is helping me better fluidly read rotation and timing aerials with more realistic variables, ie teammate or opponent going up for an aerial. Oh and hearing much higher ranks rate the flicks of these bots is reassuring
@flexu8699
@flexu8699 2 жыл бұрын
mr silver gamer, i assure you practicing rotations against bots is absolutely not helping, they do not at all move and play like real players. For timing aerials and some shadow defense it will help, but yea for rotations just watch a video or practice in ranked.
@WhatCanIBreak_RL1
@WhatCanIBreak_RL1 2 жыл бұрын
The bots have taken over, I hate them all.... 😂
@CRANEREVIEWS
@CRANEREVIEWS 2 жыл бұрын
Played Rocket League once years ago, but this was a very interesting video even for an outsider! :)
@Qwty163
@Qwty163 2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I've actually practiced with Necton for about a 15 days, and my 1v1 and 2v2 skills have improved more in those 15 days than the past 6 months. Absolute GOD tier training tool
@Qwty163
@Qwty163 2 жыл бұрын
Necto*
@christianwoodbury2480
@christianwoodbury2480 2 жыл бұрын
@@Qwty163 Necton wouldn't be a terrible name tho. It sounds like a transformer or something
@gblawrence034
@gblawrence034 2 жыл бұрын
They should call the third version Necton and the fourth version Nexton
@christianwoodbury2480
@christianwoodbury2480 2 жыл бұрын
@@gblawrence034 and then Nectron and Nextron
@gblawrence034
@gblawrence034 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianwoodbury2480 oh my god yes
@timma_j
@timma_j 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely destroy someone that's never played Rocket League before
@jandrosdumb
@jandrosdumb 2 жыл бұрын
same
@novarl4115
@novarl4115 Жыл бұрын
im able to beat all the bots nectos rank and below but nexto is just insane
@tokenrl
@tokenrl 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely be down to 2v2 Nexto. As a fellow GC, I think it's time to end its streak
@ChaoTix.S
@ChaoTix.S 2 жыл бұрын
r/momentsbeforedisaster
@shreknskrubgaming7248
@shreknskrubgaming7248 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need a video comparing EU and NA high-ranked lobbies. I've had enough of the trash-talking, 'Murica all the way.
@webrevolution.
@webrevolution. 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that for some people it would be better to do quite the opposite of using the tracker which you're talking about. Simply cause some people perform way better by not knowing their opponents and team mates rank and mmr. So I guess people should do some tries and see if they're better out with the tracker or if they're better with a bakkesmod that hides all the ranks even in endgame. You can never know until you try for yourself.
@antler_glow
@antler_glow 2 жыл бұрын
I like the “Grand Chumps” name at the end :)
@AUSr_Strike
@AUSr_Strike 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, those “champs” sucked, I’m diamond and I could beat them under any circumstance.
@MemesOfFreedomHere
@MemesOfFreedomHere 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@AUSr_Strike
@AUSr_Strike 2 жыл бұрын
@@MemesOfFreedomHere Yup, literally SSL’s feel like silver’s, sigh.
@Billusion7
@Billusion7 2 жыл бұрын
it's really simple to be honest , rank is not only represented by mechanics. there is a lot more to that. (pretty sure you have a video about it) rotation , perception , playing around teammates , recoveries , decision making , adaptability. I m a D1 player (at 2s) and i feel like a gold 3 could have my mechanics. I could get peaked on by a mechanical plat 1. (I hate 1s so much btw). so I never judge players in your videos sledge because from my perspective the ranks are solidly represented. However (!) , it's a little annoying when players compete against each other and one is X rank 1 while the other is X rank 3 , the difference is ridiculous most of the time , I would recommend trying to find people at X rank 2 if possible every time.
@robertogaona2278
@robertogaona2278 2 жыл бұрын
lmao this video is soo good. I cant believe that bots are really doing that :o amazing
@nikmaticic3005
@nikmaticic3005 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha, soo beautifull seeing trashtalkers geting smashed by bots.
@KingRanny
@KingRanny 2 жыл бұрын
I could easily slap one of these bots in a 1v1, it would be like taking candy from a baby I'd make the bots become sentient just to watch them cry when they lose to me so badly
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Do you trust me to not give them aimbot like I did last time though Ranny?
@ninetailedkat_.2713
@ninetailedkat_.2713 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t trust sledge...
@GregTurismo
@GregTurismo 2 жыл бұрын
I need to learn how to set this up on my PC so I can play them too. This looks awesome
@andrewneedham9839
@andrewneedham9839 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason the bots seem like they're bad is because they make such calculated and precise movements that they look like they're moving slower and not as good.
@damiennightmaresx7950
@damiennightmaresx7950 2 жыл бұрын
i now want a high-rank vs literally ever bot or a marsh pit of every bot vs every rank like imagine trying to fight that!
@papaizzo
@papaizzo 2 жыл бұрын
Sledge went from demoing cars to demoing dignities
@TheFirstArsynyc
@TheFirstArsynyc 2 жыл бұрын
As a C2 in 1v1 I have been grinding nothing but 1v1 against Necto and Nexto for the last week. My win rate is... Not good. These damn bots are incredible.
@SwuaveWEB
@SwuaveWEB 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see these games in their entirety.
@SirLampsALot
@SirLampsALot 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that, speaking from experience as a plat, you can play like a d3 for a minute, and a g2 the next
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Not many people think of this when watching a few short minutes of footage in a youtube video. Even on this one I have people commenting "XXXX isn't GC, he didn't even air dribble" Like 3 minutes of footage HAS to include a very situational specific move if you are GC. So dumb.
@SirLampsALot
@SirLampsALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rocket_Sledge On top of that, you don't need to spend many hours learning overly specific mechanics to get to a high rank. People don't understand just how far the basics will take you. Obviously, "the basics" become more and more complicated the higher you go, but still, you don't need to be super mechanical to reach a certain rank.
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirLampsALot yep, I basically prove that with my own play. I do none of the fancy stuff the plats debate or brag about and got to Champ 3.
@Audaylon
@Audaylon 2 жыл бұрын
can you break the bot by focusing on exploding them as a way of getting around how good the bot is?
@nick30brodeur
@nick30brodeur 2 жыл бұрын
Sledge, my friend and I's playstyle and synergy would absolutely riddle the poor bots, no matter how far along in development it is.
@ProbiesPrison
@ProbiesPrison 2 жыл бұрын
Love that people are trying baiting comments like this now just to be in a video.
@predyaxc
@predyaxc 2 жыл бұрын
Psyonix should add lile in FIFA when you can select the difficulty on how the bot player gonna play, it would be amazing
@-Eskel
@-Eskel 2 жыл бұрын
11:26, they bumped, woow toxic - the one with the most demos in the game (2022)
@silence9966
@silence9966 2 жыл бұрын
There should be an SSL bot called "Nectar"
@brazeneclipse8243
@brazeneclipse8243 Жыл бұрын
I would not mind having a crack at those bots.
@gxzmic
@gxzmic 2 жыл бұрын
Now I don't feel so bad being called a bot lol Great video!
@tfs0004
@tfs0004 2 жыл бұрын
as a console player I would love to challenge bots like these. Make it happen Psyonix!!
@thomas1644
@thomas1644 2 жыл бұрын
"Most cocky commenters end up being on console." Why am I so, so unsurprised.
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of cocky players I went up against a pc gold who thought I was silver (he was eu btw) and I beat him 17-0 on his own server and I'm only d1
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and I'm a console player who's not cocky
@kalvaxus
@kalvaxus 2 жыл бұрын
I need a buddy like "Nexto (2)" already in the air ready for the rebound when I obviously whiff by a tiny amount!
@brekkoh
@brekkoh 2 жыл бұрын
*gets normal diagonal front flip flicked in midfield on a poor challenge* "that's the best flick i've ever seen!"
@ΝικοςΣπυροπουλος-ν9β
@ΝικοςΣπυροπουλος-ν9β 2 жыл бұрын
This is craaaaazyy I dont think we r that much far from seeing pro level bots
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 2 жыл бұрын
Idk about Necto's perfect defense. I think he and Nexto's worst aspect is their defense
@JDCraftPlayz
@JDCraftPlayz 11 ай бұрын
Hey Sledge. I am ranked Platinum 3 in Rocket League. I really wish I could 1v1 this bot. But I don't have Rocket League on PC. Your content is amazing. Keep it up. Hope you hit 1M subscribers. 👍
@boaz7028
@boaz7028 2 жыл бұрын
lmao "we'll win and it won't even be close" *proceeds to get dumpstered on by bots* extremely embarassing
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
Well he's right. It wasn't close he got destroyed
@benjamintenaihi51
@benjamintenaihi51 2 жыл бұрын
I ain't even gonna lie but this looks fun as hell
@godlykaios7334
@godlykaios7334 2 жыл бұрын
Watching a game is different from playing the game
@carasc5
@carasc5 2 жыл бұрын
Pfft, I could EASILY destroy those golds and diamonds. Cause I'm a high champ player.
@agentg8435
@agentg8435 2 жыл бұрын
This gives bot a new meaning
@Mr_Toxic-wu8wb
@Mr_Toxic-wu8wb 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist : the bots actually have plot armour.
@alex12cf
@alex12cf 2 жыл бұрын
is there a way to play by myself using these bots? man I would love to play some private casuals agaisnt them as training since even some of the "lowes" ranked bots do some stuff that I still have to learn. thank you for the good content and congratulations on making them!
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
All the links for RLBot and its Discord are in the description. You do need to be PC though.
@raffajaffa9633
@raffajaffa9633 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it would look like to have nexto go against SSLs
@radamanthyswyvern4415
@radamanthyswyvern4415 2 жыл бұрын
Con mí hermano y un amigo jugamos 3v3 y fue muy caótico, apenas pudimos hacer algunos goles, lo difícil es cuando hacen disparos que rebotan y ellos pueden leerlo incluso antes de que la pelota rebote, son muy rápidos. En realidad, deberían modificar esa predicción a futuro tan exagerada y serían unos bots excelentes para entrenamiento. Fue divertida la experiencia, pero volver a jugar con personas luego de esos partidos se sentía muy extraño.
@apostle3903
@apostle3903 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sledge! I’m unranked and I BET that I could lose to those GC’s as the end 😎
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know what it is, but I completely believe you.
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 2 жыл бұрын
Nah bro he's lying, bet he's top 100 while secretly smurfing on ppl (you can get it but I'm not sure others will tho)
@Smittel
@Smittel 2 жыл бұрын
Necto/Nexto are really impressive. as a diamond in 1s im having unexpectedly much trouble. one game went to OT with an 8-8 scoreline i have no idea how that happened. Then i lost to one of nectos flicks. Im not the best 1s player or even a 1s main by any stretch but to think its a bot, truly impressive. Or is it even a bot, or is it just the sum or average of all players?
@IHazCkiez
@IHazCkiez 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even if it is GC level, it can be cheesed so easily by going for airdribbles, flipresets og simply playing the ball to the sides of target. Knowing that you should beat it 4/5 times if you are low GC
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Like any bot you eventually can find out a weakness and exploit it. Just like everyone in my video though, this is them trying it for the first time.
@ChaoTix.S
@ChaoTix.S 2 жыл бұрын
If you play just enough games against it you will win eventually. It‘s the exact same in tournaments for example. But expecting a GC1 to beat it 4/5 times is a bit optimistic. Unless you‘re really good in the air that is.
@braak295
@braak295 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if rocket sledge would do more games using bots but only put ones that won their games 💀
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, but who wants to see that?
@REIstros7
@REIstros7 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the Rocket Pass Cars be converted into Bots that can score on ssls lol. Very interesting and entertaining
@shadowyzephyr
@shadowyzephyr 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, if anything Kovalo and BLTBacon were good for champs, they certainly have better mechanics than me (I'm a champ) and they adapted to it pretty quickly. That being said, there was some weird behavior from Necto in that game, and the toxic players in this video had bad ping, so don't be toxic to them just because they lost worse. Don't be like them!
@brettkirk1944
@brettkirk1944 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: have nexto or a different machine learning bot run through dacia obstacle course.
@BlueMaxwell
@BlueMaxwell 2 жыл бұрын
I usually play just for fun and can beat Necto all day long, but nexto murders my soul every time i even try. I float around plat 3 diamond 1 in ranked, maybe i should grind ranked more..
@connorking984
@connorking984 2 жыл бұрын
I played a ton against necto and now a fair bit against nexto 1v1, I feel my dribbling, shadow defense, fakes, and 50s have all been improved by a substantial margin. I haven't been flicked in my actual c3 rank in a while, I'm disgustingly good at shadow defense. That being said I still only maintain a 1/4 goal ratio, some games end 10-40 in favor of nexto. that being said I'm somewhat hesitant in my games because playing nexto requires being very defensive punctuated with all out pushes which I'm not very good at. Still an incredible training excercise, it does not allow mistakes.
@drone8686
@drone8686 2 жыл бұрын
how you play against nexto
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