195,000 Lumens with No Electric Bill - Installing Hykolity Lights

Installing Hykolity 150W High Bay
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[@RockhillfarmYT]

Here is an amazon link to the lights used in the video: amzn.to/3AR6vx3 Here is a link to the same lights on the Hykolity website: www.hykolity.com/collections/featured-collection/products/led-ufo-high-bay-light-5000k-2-pack?variant=43773951705305 Check out more of our Saw Mill videos here: kzbin.info/aero/PLmYnhJtNUq7cxcDizOh4LbhabyvbU1uAN Rockhill Farm is a daily equipment and rural living vlog. We mainly focus on tractors and working outdoors. I really appreciate you taking time to watch this video. If you enjoy this type of content Check out some of the following links to support our channel. If you are interested in a rock Hill Farms T-shirt check out our merch store rockhill-farm.creator-spring.com/listing/rockhill-farm-logo Please subscribe to our channel here: kzbin.info Follow on Facebook at facebook.com/Rock-Hill-Farm-102050688356056/ You can now support the channel by buying us a coffee at the following link: www.buymeacoffee.com/rockhillfarm

[@Tdale85]

I think NASA just saw your hut from space. Holy crap that is bright!

[@pauljs75]

When the weather warms up, every bug within sight of that building will want to be in there if it's lit up plenty like that at night, and soon the spiders would follow them. Also if that conduit isn't tucked away, birds might be tempted to nest in there too. So you may need to plan some countermeasures for those things at some point.

[@turnitupmike]

Yup, those loose dangling cable drops look like bird roost like spots huh? Tiny gaps in the breakouts I'd silicone up to prevent insects and spiders living in there.

[@wadetaylor4697]

Are you from Arkansas? Sincerely.

[@Botchedtoeknife]

@@wadetaylor4697 why lol

[@Botchedtoeknife]

Yeah he’s really gonna pay whenever the arachnid army shows up and injects him with their poisons

[@szolanek]

Cool! ... Even for security movement detector lights, around the house.

[@drmarkintexas-400]

Thank you for sharing 🏆🤗🙏🇺🇲

[@aerialvisualconcepts1644]

Great work, tons of light! I noticed the same company makes 200 watt versions too. You probably have enough solar input but it would be nice to have more backup battery. Alas, the expense of solar is always the batteries unfortunately.

[@robertginther9248]

Brock, Never take those lights down. My little machine shop is 25 x 25 with an 8 1/2 foot ceiling. I have Barrina lights which are 4 footers, single tube that put out 4000 lumens @ 6000K bright white. I put up 72 of them which only draws 288 watts total. I'm NOT ever taking any down. I can see everywhere & will never need a flashlight inside again. Great job on your lights. They are perfect.

[@superwedgie]

They are only 4 watts each and put 4000 lumens. Something doesn't equate there.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I miss spoke on mine. They are 150 watt but they put out 19,500 Lumens each.

[@donaldparkhurst3006]

The more light the better. Just make sure you wear your sunglasses and sun screen lol

[@ssprofirewood]

You are up late, Brock. Excellent video! I am not sure I have ever seen a building that lit up.

[@daledavies2334]

To cut the metal loom, hacksaw at about 90° mostly through the shield. Them garb on both sides of the cut and twist back and forth until the rest breaks. You can dress the end with a fine file so it is not sharp.

[@farmboycharlie6543]

Nice place for the birdies to nest in a birdless building. Just used drop lights with led bulbs in ours

[@JCWren]

There's an inexpensive tool made for cutting armor cladding. It's basically a little hand operated saw blade that has a gripper and the proper spacing for making the cuts cleanly. After you cut the cladding you're supposed to put a small plastic bushing into the cladding so it can't ever cut into the insulation.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for sharing

[@darkone9572]

They call'em BX cutters, or AC cutters ! Any Elec. Supply house

[@paulfitch4660]

You bend the mc cable where you want to cut the armor unravel it a little bit with both hands exposing a single ribbon cut that tight with a pair of diagonal cutters and slip off the rest then to cut the plastic easy just run it alongside the cut edge of the MC cable it'll rip that plastic right off and you have to have to have to use redheads if you're not using redheads that wire is going to vibrate against that metal edge over time and short

[@TechGorilla1987]

The youngins really are amazed when the old guy breaks out the roto-zip tool for MC/BX.

[@civildiscourse2000]

I got one of those for my students to try out in my first level electrical shop class. They broke the little blade in about 15 minutes. 🙄 We went back to the traditional method for small armored stuff - crack, untwist, snip with sidecutters. 😁

[@davidpetersen1]

"I figured 6.. they said I needed 10". 🤣🤣

[@jasons8479]

Looks like Radio City Music Hall at the end.

[@mudpawsvoom6132]

Um my friend has a trailer with a solar panel system on it he uses on his farm , you might find the same voltage and watts as those panels you have and replace them with the others and put them on a trailer that way you can move them around when you need to and if you need power any place else on your property just hook up the trailer and there you go.

[@426superbee4]

I got solar street lights around my house. There so bright. I don't need lights to walk around in the house during the night. Cause of there light shinning threw the windows. Last month we had a hail storm and knock 3 of them out Now idk what to do? Why Replace them? For hail the knock them out again. I dearly love them. In a power outage there nice to have! They have paid for themselves already, But they don't last in a hail storm

[@losthero0]

Of course they said 10, 6 would have been fine

[@ZAPATTUBE]

You did a great job there.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks

[@manuelbettencourt4213]

I have 15 of those in my shop, if you connect them with a twist plug that makes it easier to change out when they die, which is about 3 times a year

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Your LED lights only last a few months

[@TheInsultInvestor]

put a fan on them

[@isabellavision]

Manuel-- please explain-- you have these same lights, and you have to change them out three times a year?

[@alistairmcdonald2382]

Great for hydroponics !

[@philmccracken2012]

Cool video. One thing, you should get a mic for recording your audio that allows you not have to yell when you are talking. They're cheap enough and small enough. You can clip it to your body so you can talk normal volume. Anyways, thank you for the video really need like it

[@pazsion]

That’s why you cover bright lights indoors with a diffusing material… takes the center brightness and distributes it… and the other rays 😂 Crystal works best but acrylics and silicone also disperse without blocking much. And don’t smash so easily

[@AMJDG]

I cannot emphasize enough the importance of eye protection when using power tools. I have seen so many eye injuries resulting from a piece of metal getting into the eye - often causing permanent blindness. It's not worth it for vanity or laziness. About a year ago, a good friend of mine was using a circular saw when the blade shattered. He was sprayed with shrapnel on his face and chest. The eye protection he was wearing was peppered with tiny metal particles that would have been in his eye if he had not been wearing it. The worst injury was to his hand. He now has a permanent 7 inch Nike swoosh shaped scar on his hand and permanent nerve damage...

[@bsrcat1]

If you would just use the regular conduit, you could have hung all the lights and safety cables on the conduit like it was designed for.

[@ndoghouse6853]

Kinda late now but you should have gotten you some dimmable lights. That way you can dim them and still have lights across the entire space. May not be an issue tho if you just want light where you are working. I have a 40 foot geodesic dome im lighting for my shop. Ceiling is 26 feet high. I plan to use five higher power (200W+) lights with dimmer. Tell us about you metal building. Im wanting to add something like that to my property for storage? Thanks for the info!

[@Flirken2975]

No everybody can make hello kitty lights looks so damn good. 😂

[@leehiller2489]

I don't think your estimator took into account the reflectivity of your walls. While this may decrease over time with oxidation 3 to 4 lights hung high center should be enough.

[@prometheus8010]

Cameras over here

[@f.d.6667]

Might want to hold on to the savings from the "no electric bill" for later: A guide dog for blind people is around 45-50K plus bills for the vet & food... OK, all joking aside: these lights hurt about every rule of good lighting there is. For starters: use at least an anti-glare grid so that there will never form an image of the LED emitter on your retinas. Basically, if you can "see" the LEDs in operation, there is a design flaw - *one you need to compensate for if don't plan on getting some severe eye damage.* (Yes, human factors guy over here)

[@prometheus8010]

I think you only need 4 or 5 down the middle

[@10esseeTony]

Nooooo noooo noo no. Once peeling back the aluminum coil protecting the wire, you need to insert a plastic thingy to keep the outer shell from gouging the insulation of the internal wires before inserting into an electrical box! 8m 25 sec

[@trespire]

WD40 isn't a cutting oil. It isn't even an oil.

[@dudeleboski2692]

How many Watts do each light use?

[@bichela]

He said 150

[@AnthonyCelata]

Why people wire lights in 12 AWG is beyond me its literally a waste of money you said 10 lights at .8 amps right? 150 watts each. you have 12 extra amps of overhead thats basically running another 14-2 and just leaving it up there not attached. AHH the disclaimer "this is not what to do" you got that right! The electrician in me is cringing watching that guy strip MC HA! Nice lights though...

[@the-papaw]

$500 for lights? Wish I had that much money to waste.

[@danielhartwig6333]

Led lights admit poisones frequency bad to human health!

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

45 minutes....ahahahahahahahaa

[@JimBobDewayne]

Why don't ya put ya some of them damned old solar panels on the roof up there? They can be hard mounted, they get more light, and they's more powerful than them little whippersnappers you got leanin on the wall out there.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

We just put out an updated video where I built a bigger, better charging station with a home home made version of the solar generator. That being said I usually only solve problems after they are problems. I’ve had this set up this way for a while now and every time I go out there the batteries are charged and I’ve never ran it down in one use. If that changes or my usage changes, I’ll look at ways to charge better.

[@JimBobDewayne]

@@RockhillfarmYT Nice, man!

[@pancreasenthusiast]

"I am no electrician." GET OUT. You had me fooled. God that was painful to watch.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I would say what we did was overkill. Not necessary, but might as well go to the extra trouble.

[@pancreasenthusiast]

@@RockhillfarmYT I'm referring to the technique, the use of incorrect materials (eg wrong cable connectors for that cable), and the erroneous statement that you didn't have to follow electrical code because it wasn't connected to the grid, which is false.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

And I’m referring to the fact that we don’t have to following code. I didn’t have to get a permit to put up this building. I could have ran extension cords up there with zip ties and left it that way permanently Every barn and out building in the county has lights like this hung without any conduit or metal clad wire or anything else. Just plain yellow Romex straight to the light. It works just fine. People have been doing it that way long before they came up with electrical code. There are still places that haven’t been ruined by overregulation My dad built a 3500 square-foot house completely by himself and never had an inspection. No one from the county or the state came and looked at it at all. He just went out there and started working. He did 100% of the electrical and plumbing himself, and 25 years later there is not a single problem with it If you are in the business of building homes to sell, then the consumer need some protection of making sure things meat a certain standard, but the shed I park my equipment in just needs to work

[@Merq-ko8di]

ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION MUST BE CARRIED OUT BY QUALIFIED AND CERTIFIED ELECTRICIANS ONLY . NOT BY IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY ARE ELECTRICIANS IF THEY HAVE CHANGED BATTERIES IN A FLASH LIGHT 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@RockhillfarmYT]

What is hard for me to wrap my head around is people who think there’s only one right way to do something. Over regulation is destroying this country and making it impossible for people to get things done. And primarily it’s just a way to milk more money out of you Please come back from the Dark side. You commented about electrical installations, which isn’t what happened here. A piece of wire that is not connected to a fixture and is not connected to a power source. It’s just an extension cord. I mounted extension cords on my ceiling. Also, no one has ever listen to anything that was typed in all capitals. The fact that you chose to do that rules out any validity you could have.

[@patrickcorbett8361]

The lights are great ! Being an electrical contractor for the past 38 years I have learned the impotance of flexability. With your ceilng grid you can "Plug and play " , its a beauty Brock ! Make it safe ,make sure your grounds are all connected, and your buiding has a copper grounding system ( Bond the bldg steel, to earth ground ) also refer to the inverer instructions regarding grounding . Also, one of the 1st edicts in the National Electrical Code is that, all work SHALL be neat and workman like...... pc

[@thinkcasting3182]

BX in a open ended shed? Come'on, man.

[@alexanderlothe5656]

Since it's battery powered, I think you should have wired some way of dimmer on them if they are capable. That will make them more efficient and longer lasting (heat wise). Love the output, great project!

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

I like it bright, but dang, son! ☀😎 Tractor Hard! 🚜💪!

[@ljprep6250]

I think I might have tried wiring up 3 on one side and checking it at night, settling on 6 total fixtures. That's 117,000L. You said they were 5000L, but they're 5000k, or daylight temperature. Cool white 4100k all the way to 6500k are good temps for working. Nice job, guys. That's safe and secure lighting. Your future's so bright, ya gotta wear shades. ;)

[@jacklabloom635]

Every now and then I occasionally find someone who can put some light on the subject.

[@NYTROeast]

They make a special tool for cutting that. Its a BX/MC Rotary Cable cuter

[@feellnfroggy]

So nothing you did wrong, lol. But you can drill that steel with masonry drill bits, they stay sharp and cut fast, and don’t burn up your good bits.

[@Cowboy_Steve]

Howdy Brock! Yeah those are pretty impressive! I agree... looks like 4 or 5 would have been plenty. That is the nice thing about having 'plug and play' lights... you can move them pretty easily. I replaced all my 4 bulb florescent light fixtures in my little shop with those $20 3 foot LED shop lights from Sam's and holy Toledo! At least 50% brighter! Really highlights my mistakes when I make them... lol. Well done and thanks for sharing 🤠

[@turnitupmike]

I suspect the specs for 10 lights mean you are near zero chance of ever working in your own shadow etc. Likely more than most need, unless you are doing filming for a TV series pretending you are on a sunny beach😂

[@T_Humphries]

I think it turned out great cause the more light the more better!! If you only had four lights in the building you would have more shadows to deal with

[@johnhidalgo8508]

Commercial electrician for 22 years here and ill just list what i saw . 1. bracket - could've used eye bolt and rod couplings 2. connectors were for n/m cable (romex) 3.straps wrong size - they make smaller ones or for your case would've used "mineralac" conduit hanger type for m/c cable (3/8) 4.stripping outer jacket wrong and way too short- they make a special tool (roto-zip) or you can use a pair of side or b/x cutters to snip "ridge" then twist excess off , also by code you must leave at least 6-8" of wire out of box for makeup 5.plug end directly on m/c - although it works , plug ends are meant for flexible cord 6. portable solar panels - again , although it works , those panels aren't meant for permanent installs , being left out in the elements will cause them to break down faster 7.grounding grounding grounding - gotta make sure grounding is there otherwise if you happen to touch the "hot" wire and are touching any metal or the neutral at the same time , the system will see you as another load and keep pushing voltage and can cause serious injury or death .

[@TheProjectHelpDesk]

Our warehouse replaced our entire lighting systems with some of those styles. Work great.

[@guygordon2780]

Why the Hell didn't you hook up the dimmer circuit? Dimming those LED will extend their lifetimes enormously. The way you have it hooked up, you can reduce the number of lamps you run, but they will always run at full power.

[@crypon2420]

Great effort you put into it but first think is you used wrong connector It’s not used for mc wire it’s actually used for romex You should use bushing most call it red head To strip the wire you should just break the armor by bending it 180 degrees then you can cut it with any available tool Then use red head to prevent short circuit and use squeeze connector for mc wire You should also strip enough wire so it’s at least 6 in from the back of the box Ground wire is important before you connect to device you need to bond it with the box too I like to use larger boxes for more space and easier access cost is very similar The connector you used they are ok for the cord that comes from the light Also using solar I would use 12v batteries and solar panels and remove drivers from the lights This way it’s more efficient Using inverter there is list of energy If this was intended just for lighting than wiring would be much simpler and cheaper by keeping everything everything low voltage Of course distance of wiring is important dealing with dc power Hope this helps you in the future projects saves you money improves quality of your work Wish you good luck with everything you do

[@davidniquot6423]

Remove those panels ... they are not designed for all day exposition to sunlight. Use regular panels that will surive 15-25+ years outside. Do not use 10 lights .. only 6 and keep the others as spares cause some will fail.

[@Bob_Adkins]

For a lower ceiling, HF has an 8000lm 5000K light for $27.

[@pbasswil]

In retrospect, would you have taken the opportunity to wire in dimmers? Or is the ability to only have some of the lights on, adequate for toning it down?

[@geneard639]

You might want to look at a WiFi lighting controller so you can turn on just the lights you need/want. Think about permanent install of some panels a bigger battery, unless you plan on hooking electricity from the pole to the hut. Other than that, great job!

[@seansysig]

5 lights with 2 at each end 6th rib in on each end and 5th one dead center. FYI only run these on an inverter generator!

[@turnitupmike]

I'd want rubber grommets in that wall, where the cables for the solar goes through on the side of the wall. Protect those cables from flapping around in the wind which likely will cause the wall to wear through the insulation on your solar power cables.

[@chadjones4236]

Good to know there's another person out there that doesn't like to quit before the job's done I too suffer from that affliction👊👍👍👍👍

[@DCJNewsMedia]

Ty is an excellent video. We will not do what you are doing unless we do ...lol. It's called at your own risk and parel. Keep it coming, keep on keeping on trucking... Sub for a while. God-bless you and your family and friends.

[@piousminion7822]

There is a special tool for that type of cable that clamps onto it and has a crank that turns a little cutting wheel. We always called it "mc-cable" and the tool a "mc cable cutter". When you use it to cut the sheath, the excess slides right off. Source: Electrician :P

[@peterkoster5053]

Man that's bright... guess you'll be spending alot on sunscreen now lol As for the solar panels I'd just run some wooden stakes through the carrying handles.

[@ronblack7870]

so they are 19500 lumen not 5000. 5000k is the color temperature. 5000k is very white . i prefer something warmer which is like 3500k.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yeah, that’s the mistake I made while I was recording. It’s 5000 K color temperature 19,500 lm. I fixed it in the title

[@synchro505]

Great job, guys. P.S. That ladder terrifies me. 😳

[@Katya5cat]

I never bought the special cable cutter tool. I always just bend the mc cable till it comes apart where it's bent. With practice, you can be pretty accurate in getting the length correct. After getting the length right a little, trimming the conduit to remove burrs and adding the anti short bushing, the right box connector and you're good to go. The box connector you showed were incorrect should've been for mc type cable. It may or may not work out for you though. I like those lights they certainly are bright enough.

[@michelsavoie6971]

That's how I've always seen elctricians do it. Just bend it, and cut where it snapped and clean it up.

[@dustdevl1043]

You'll look cool day AND night wearing your shades!

[@firecloud77]

That's overkill. You coulda just bought 10 of the "JACKYLED 7 in 1 Light Socket Splitter" for $17, with 1,600 lumen light bulbs that would be 11,200 lumens each.

[@OldIronAcres]

4:16 - - Great way to get rid of the WD40!! LOL

[@marvindiamonjr.9631]

Wow! That's bright! I'd buy some of those lights, but I don't have a building to put them in...just yet.

[@TheDishDoc]

Nice shop and the lights are awesome. 1500 watts is equivalent to a dryer running. Your solar generator is doing a good job of it. I would suggest a couple of aluminum framed panels permanently mounted. Panels are cheap. I built a 3 panel pole mount out of an old C-band satellite mount. Those portable panel are never gonna last long term. I would use bulkhead MC4 connectors to pass thru your building wall. Completely waterproof pass thru. Thanks for the video. Liked and subscribed.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks

[@marcusmoralez8872]

Can you put some on the end?

[@richardbritton5280]

Nice Boorah Grasshopper 🏆🏆👴🐕🚜🦍

[@paramax55]

You are thinking about moving 5 of them??? They are $40.00 each. Is it really worth doing the extra work, and losing the extra light, just to save $200.00?

[@marcs3982]

If you have enough money to have that building, and everything in it, then you have enough money to hire a REAL QUALIFIED ELECTRICIAN !!!!!

[@bobpurs]

Looks good Brock. You should be able to see what your doing .

[@mrwayneright]

TOO MUCH light is not always a good thing. It would be interesting to know what sort of Footcandle reading you get at the work surface. Unless you are doing high detail, low contrast work, too much brightness is unpleasent. Very High detail/low contrast would be doing Needlepoint with black thread on black cloth. Making dull pencil marks on wood, or sharpie marks on metals or discerning colors in a wire-harness, or reading small text on white paper or soldering micro-electronics, or wrenching suspension parts under a vehicle (that blocks the light overhead) are different. The photometric study done for you may have not adequately modeled the highly reflective metal finish, AND the shape of your roof/walls where you have a LOT of reflected light. You possibly could have used a lower wattage/lumen fixture, or used dimmable LED, and still had plenty.

[@KB-2222]

I'm sure these lights are TERRIBLE for you. Now they're banning incandescent lights.

[@TheFlatronify]

If this isn't an awesome advertisement for a really great product, then I don't know what is. Awesome! :)

[@426superbee4]

But there some bad things about solar power. 1 is night time. 2 cloudy days. 3 is Hail beat on the solar cells > I got a Quonset Hut building about the same size or bigger I love them 👍👍

[@peterkn2]

I've bought Hykolity lights before, the T5 shaped lights, and they started failing around the two year mark. 2 out of the 4 I installed started blinking randomly. I wouldn't recommend this brand.

[@OGMEDIAGROUP420]

Nice video. I've ordered 8 for less than $300 with 10% off code. How are they holding up? The Hyperlite company was more expensive and these look of equal quality so I pulled the trigger.

[@chronobot2001]

Nice job. I was a little concerned with you working on the middle of the night on tall ladders. I have fallen off of a ladder and broke my wrist. You where much higher. I'm glad nothing bad happened.

[@AMan-io7wt]

The lights could have been hung lower for better amount and placement of light, 6 lights is plenty. You finished the project at night with all the typical conditions in place that cause accidents...late in the day, worker is tired, poor lighting, alone, on top of a ladder. Not smart.

[@signatureenterprisesllc5438]

SHOULD HAVE put even lights on switches to see what half light would look like 💙

[@soniclab-cnc]

i like to bend the BX and pop the winding apart then snip off with side cutters... Then you just pull off the casing without having to unravel much of it... Important to prepare the end and make certain there is no really sharp edges use the short stops.

[@MrKittenmitts]

Okay I will be "that guy" If you have a safety lanyard you may want to connect it to something other than the bracket you are mounting the units to. Now I feel like a jerk

[@poduck2]

They make a cutter for that flexible conduit. It costs about $40. It makes the process a bit easier.

[@getprobed838]

those lights are going to attract all the bugs in a one mile radius....you may want to think about finding some kind of mosquito netting that you can cover the openings of the hut....

[@TomTrys]

"I could have gotten away with 4, but the company that sells them told me I needed 10" 😅😅

[@xtevexeairoux2637]

yeah it's called an MC cutter but if you don't have one you can always use your wire Dykes and cut one little section of that sleeve and Slide the whole bed off you don't have to unwind it around the wire you just go to the spot where you want it to cut at and you take your wire Dykes and yeah snip it right there and you unscrew it half a turn and it'll slide right off then you got these little things little red caps that you put on the end and tea abrasion cap it wraps around the wires slides in behind the metal conduit flex metal conduit the MC cutter makes it really easy cuz it just slices one nice little piece leaves no birds you twisted half a turn and you slide off the end then you put one of those little red caps on there to keep it abrasion from happening from the metal to the wire you have to do that you probably didn't do that on any one of your connections

[@paulinebowers682]

That’s a lot of light. Now you know the man from the company was more salesman then engineer. Have a Great day.

[@OTPFrodo]

I don't think so. They engineered it for basic work lighting, more than likely to OSHA standards,for a factory floor. I wouldn't want any less. But, you know opinions..... 😂😂

[@plurplursen7172]

I am the Duke of electricians. And I approve! (barely)

[@garykeenan3724]

He’ll have cataracts of the eyes if he doesn’t wear sunglasses while inside working!!!

[@frankboutch2]

do you have dimensions of your building Hight and position of your H-bay and how much lux did you have

[@10esseeTony]

That's not going anywhere..... :D :D :D Shout out to HillyBilly

[@jdelaney9325]

Those lights are garbage. Let’s see how many are still working in a couple of years.

[@gregs8706]

Way to go Brock , 😉 can't wait to see the videos for the new building.

[@CoNeSol]

How come you have closed of the Quonset hut or at least one side and put in a concrete floor to make it an more comfortable space to work in especially in the winter.

[@louietramposch4559]

But could the lights charge themselves 🤷‍♂️🤟👽🎬

[@andrewbowlgarte4738]

1.5kw is alot , plus the cost , add all up , see when you'll start saving 1 cent