Was Brian JONES So IMPORTANT To The Rolling STONES? | Full Documentary

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@Martinique325
@Martinique325 5 ай бұрын
I always described Brian's contribution as layering different soundscapes and texture to their music. The Stones were doing something different than all the bands around at the given time. In all, Brian could play 28 different instruments. That gives a new definition to multi-instramentationalist. _Some of the brightest stars burn out the quickest._ When my dad died in 2017, I provided a bunch of family pictures for the funeral home, so they could create a DVD to be shown at the funeral home visitation. I chose "No Expectations" as the music to the video. I get emotional every time I hear that song, and that's been for many years now. In the end, Brian got jipped. He should have received music credit on each of those songs mentioned. He wrote his delcimer, sitar, marimba, mellotron, recorder, etc. lines. Mick and Keith didn't write the portion of those instramentational lines. That was all Brian. So he wasn't a lyricist. There is so much more to a piece of music than the words. Look at it this way using Pink Floyd as an example. Roger Waters is one of the greatest lyricists in modern music, yet I wouldn't place him in the top 20 bassists of all time. David Gilmour and Richard Wright pretty much wrote the music to the lyrics. Richard Wright could write lyrics, but David Gilmour was never that good at it. There is no doubt that Roger Waters era was when they did their best body of work. He was thrust into that role with Syd Barrett's departure. The era of David Gilmour in the 1980's was their weakest era.
@Kevin-zz9nc
@Kevin-zz9nc 6 ай бұрын
They didn't need a synthesizer.....Brian WAS the synthesizer.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
"... He was a very talented guy, and I don't regret a day working with him and meeting him and putting the Stones together with him. I wouldn't have missed that for anything... Brian deserves credit for his drive in putting the band together and putting it on a solid footing. If the band had remained what our limited horizons for it were, which was a hip London club band, it would have been fine. But he pushed us to be more." - Keith Richards, Boston Globe, 1989
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
Notice Williard ignores this from Keith himself, lmao. ' Brian deserves credit for his drive in putting the band together and putting it on a solid footing.'
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 5 ай бұрын
@@ronnieron9912 Keith would cross the street to avoid Williard, lol.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup True. Williard is a psychotic loser, lol.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
@@ronnieron9912 There is nothing solid about the rhythm guitarist in a band becoming a hopeless drunk and a non-functioning drug induced vegetable. The fact that the band continued to produce number one hit records through the period when Brian became a useless drug zombie is a testament to Keith and Mick's workhorse ethic in the studio. Brian deserves no credit whatsoever for any of the bands accomplishments in that time frame. In fact Brian was their biggest obstacle to success that had to be overcome.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 3 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 More of your rhetorical nonsense as usual. I see you missed your meds dose again today.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
"Jimi Hendrix was honored to attend a Rolling Stones recording session for Ruby Tuesday. It was really Brian Jones' session. He was the master of the sound, and the various exotic instruments he played all fused into a melodic experience that expanded the parameters of the Rolling Stones' sound. Ruby Tuesday became number one as they hung out together. Brian was ecstatic over its success. He loved to hear it by chance, on the radio in his Rolls Royce, in a club, or out of a solitary window they happened to pass. Brian would tell with great relish of how he and Keith Richards worked and worked on coloring, adding dramatic yet wispy touches here and there, alternating the mix between lead voice and background vocal harmonies, while interplaying exotic instruments. Sounds that were impossible to identify gave Ruby Tuesday an eternal air of mystery and yearning."--'Scuse Me While I Kiss the Sky: Jimi Hendrix: Voodoo Child, by David Henderson
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
Right on, Theater Pup. :)
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
I am a bass player and made a living playing in mostly cover bands in bars through the 70s 80s and 90s. I not only listened to Bill's bass parts but I learned to play them and I learned how to embellish and strengthen -them to fill out what was sometimes only a three or four piece band. It is true that Keith only played bass on about 7% of their catalog, but they were all winning bass parts in winning songs. Don't try to tell me Bill was a better bass player than Keith..He wasn't.. I lived much of their music in real time. I know better.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
Pure fantasy and fiction on Henderson's part. Ruby was Keith nearly solo opus from inception to the final mix. Extracting the recorder part found on that recording from Brian was like pulling teeth. Brian was only capable of several seconds of production one line at a time as directed by Keith and master arranger Jack Nitzsche. There were some passages that Brian was not capable of performing at all or refused to even try and session flute players had to be employed to complete Keith and Jacks vision for the woodwind accompaniment. of Keith's masterpiece.
@bryanholan3819
@bryanholan3819 2 ай бұрын
That's not how Marianne Faithful remembers it what is your source for that description of how the song evolved ? Jack was in Brian's camp there was the Mick and Keith camp and Brian Jones camp Brian had a huge influence amongst LA musicians at the time why Aftermath was as great an album as it is was Jack's uncredited production work your posting shows your bias to Kieth Between the Buttons was not as good an album as Aftermath Jack wasn't involved with it I hung around outside RCA studios when they recorded it an experience in itself
@bryanholan3819
@bryanholan3819 2 ай бұрын
Brian came up with the recorder riff While exploring the confluences of blues and Renaissance music Kieth heard the riff Brian played and together they worked diligently on making it into a great song Jack was at the sessions at Olympic sound where the sessions took place this was a Jones Richards creation read rolling Stones data the life and times of the Rolling Stones making of Ruby Tuesday on the web this confirms what I am saying with all due respect unless you were at these sessions or have some credible sources other than hero worship of Kieth let's hear it
@davidgagnon3781
@davidgagnon3781 5 ай бұрын
The Brian Jones period is my favorite phase of The Rolling Stones. The Mick Taylor period was good too. After that, there was nothing special about The Stones. They were one Rock n Roll band among many.
@Martinique325
@Martinique325 5 ай бұрын
I down think there's anything special about their music with Ronnie Wood.
@axiomist4488
@axiomist4488 7 күн бұрын
You got that perfectly right .
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
“In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
Absolute nonsense Theater Poop. the worst part is that you know what poppycock your last comment quote was Stash was a parasitic near do well who wrote fictional accounts of what Brian did to win his favor, and it was no secret
@ClassicRockFilms
@ClassicRockFilms 7 ай бұрын
Keeping the Brian Jones spirit ALIVE !!
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
You mean ,keeping the Brian Jones lies alive.
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 Love that Doobie Brothers song , What a fool believes .
@donaldcolucci2557
@donaldcolucci2557 6 ай бұрын
@@ClassicRockFilms stones musically became less entertaining after Brian
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 Only lies are yours when Mick, Keith, Stu, Oldham. Korner, and Dick Taylor ALL refute your BS nonsense. Even in this video they all say Brian was the most talented and started the Stones. YOU LOSE!
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@SuperAnimelover100 What Willaird the fool believes you mean.
@kriskairn3715
@kriskairn3715 17 күн бұрын
Jones should have been credited as songwriter for Paint it Black.
@djinnmagik4817
@djinnmagik4817 6 ай бұрын
This was the best and most complete RIP Brian Jones documentary on KZbin 🙏🏼 Thanks for sharing! Thanks for posting!
@RockinRollinOne
@RockinRollinOne 6 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙌😉✨🎶❤️
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 7 ай бұрын
Brian was the person that created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. Brian was the originator. Bill Wyman said, Brian Jones formed the band. He chose the members. He named the band. He chose the music we played. He got us gigs.
@elenikorkodelaki2695
@elenikorkodelaki2695 7 ай бұрын
BRIAN JONES was the most important Rolling Stone 🎸👏👏.. A Genius ⭐💫..
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 7 ай бұрын
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Well said Eleni !!!! :):)
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
It is all lies. Bill was not in the band when he claims all these things happened with Brian. Bill Wyman is a liar. Brian joined Keith's band in April or May and Bill did not join the band until mid December 1962, almost 1963. Bill was not there when Mick Keith and Dick Taylor founded the Blue Boys in 1961 ... the same band who changed their name to the Rollin Stones. Bill was not there to hear the repertoire of the Blue Boys before Brian joined Keith's band when most of what they played was Blues songs. Bill was not there when Brian asked if he could join Keith's blues band the Blue Boys. Bill was not there when they changed their name to the Rolling Stones from the Blue Boys and Bill was not there when they played their debut performance at the Marquee Club in July of 1962. Dick Taylor was Mick and Keith's bass player when all that happened. Bill was at the other end of London playing bass for a band called the Cliftons and he did not know Keith, Mick or Brian at that time. Everything Bill says about the early Rolling Stones are lies. BILL WAS NOT THERE.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
The only group that Brian Jones created, was the 27 Club.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour. Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it. None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him. After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism. Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense. Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him.. One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and". They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying. Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books.. There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them. Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.
@ThomasDeLello
@ThomasDeLello 5 ай бұрын
You should highlight Brian Jones' superb guitar work on their cover of Bo Diddly's "Mona". It's a standout equal to "Little Red Rooster" and "Paint It Black" if you ask me. Jones' harmonica work on Buddy Holly's "Not Fade Away" is interesting because, if you look closely, Brian is using two harmonicas [41:38].
@aminahmed2220
@aminahmed2220 7 ай бұрын
What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
@elseMa5194
@elseMa5194 6 ай бұрын
Tremendous Rolling Stones Thanks for posting ❤
@nvm9040
@nvm9040 7 ай бұрын
Rest in peace to Brian on the anniversary of his death 🕊️ He was the founder of the band and early stages of the band he was the manager of the band He was the blues purist that was pleased with his band making the blues music
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
Jones did NOT "found"the Rolling Stones. He joined Keith's band the Blues Boys. The only group that Jones founded was the 27 club.
@kriskairn3715
@kriskairn3715 17 күн бұрын
Brian Jones was the Rolling Stones xxx
@PeteOrmond5678
@PeteOrmond5678 Ай бұрын
He was so instrumental in the formation, direction, sound and style of his era of the Stones that you can't help but think that he was discarded very unfairly even with the shape that he was in near the end they should've helped him not got rid of him.
@djacidkingcidguerreiro9780
@djacidkingcidguerreiro9780 6 ай бұрын
Brian Jones WAS the heart and soul of the Rolling Stones. The Stones were at their greatest 1963-69, before the rot set in.
@DS-yg4qs
@DS-yg4qs 6 ай бұрын
Their best albums were from 1967 to 1974 period... that is a fact. Now there is also nostalgia😅
@captainfantastic9158
@captainfantastic9158 5 ай бұрын
​@@DS-yg4qs1967? You're including SATANIC MAJESTIES as a "best album?" Not even a diehard Stones fan would make a claim like that! 😂
@tomislavmihalic5283
@tomislavmihalic5283 5 ай бұрын
The heart of the Stones have always been Keith and Mick. If you don't realize that, I am sorry for you, but you're a lost case.
@JohnJohn-zn8ib
@JohnJohn-zn8ib 5 ай бұрын
​@@tomislavmihalic5283after Jonse's death yes, the reality is, when Taylor joined, he was the one that really lifted the Stones to stardom, after Taylor left they went down hill, they were a commercial band then, the only thing left was their live appearances, Tattoo You was refreshing but Black and Blue had nothing but boring music, it was an effort to listen to it. Their later albums were lame.
@NoCats-on-Guitars
@NoCats-on-Guitars 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnJohn-zn8ib Bla, bla, bla, ... the Stones where "stars" long before Taylor was hired and they recorded their best albums, "Let It Bleed" and "Beggars Banquet", without Jones and Taylor and it was Keith Richards who always made the music, that's a fact.
@terencehennegan1439
@terencehennegan1439 6 ай бұрын
No Jones, No stones…Simple. Same can be said of the Beatles, No Lennon, No Beatles. We all lose our way sometimes, he deserved more help and support. A hiatus would have helped. Richards was envious of Brian he besmirched him after his death. Excellent video 👌
@giordanodimarzo4205
@giordanodimarzo4205 5 ай бұрын
No Jones : Sticky Fingers , Let it Bleed , Exile , Goat head Soup
@ernesttenesmus6757
@ernesttenesmus6757 6 ай бұрын
Stones were great fun back in the day.
@kriskairn3715
@kriskairn3715 17 күн бұрын
Paint it Black " Brian Jones, he was the main man xxx
@elmolewis9123
@elmolewis9123 7 ай бұрын
The only albums I ever owned had either Brian or Mick Taylor. Brian's creativity and Mick T's musicianship gave the Stones their sustainability. I left them years ago.
@bluegryp
@bluegryp 7 ай бұрын
The Some girls album is the exception. That was the only top tier Ronnie Wood era record.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
So they are sustainable but you as a fan are not? Oh that makes perfect sense.
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
I dig it !!! Gotcha . :)
@johncook30284
@johncook30284 6 ай бұрын
Brian's reported drug habit left him without the will to play it seems. And if the manager was pushing Mick Jagger to the front and only allowing Jagger to be interviewed ( a situation alleged in a different KZbin video) Brian had too many not for him.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 6 ай бұрын
@@johncook30284 Brian's alcoholism was worse than his drug habits and did a lot more damage to his body. The drugs damaged more his brain. We can't ignore that when Brian broke his wrist attempting to punch Anita Pallenberg in the face in a Morocco hotel room, that the bones in his wrist reportedly didn't heal properly and it made playing guitar painful and difficult for him. It was around that time when Brian announced to the band that he was bored with guitar and he quit playing it altogether. When Brian tried to do interviews with the press he would often be so drunk or stoned that he would get profane and nasty with everyone in the room and the band. That had to stop and Andy made sure it did, as any good manager should do. Even if he was a bit high Mick could comport himself with dignity and control. Brian was his own worst enemy.
@radiomindchatter7994
@radiomindchatter7994 5 ай бұрын
I thought what Brian did on Ruby Tuesday was so good..
@briandillon8041
@briandillon8041 6 ай бұрын
The thing, Brian, Jones, and Mick Taylor had in common was that Mick Jagger made sure they never got credited for their writing. therefore never got any royalties. For example, the marimba lick on under my thumb was what the song was built around. But no credit.. So Brian have nothing to live on after being kicked out of the band. His fate was sealed.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, Jagger and Richards are publishing thieves!
@axiomist4488
@axiomist4488 7 күн бұрын
When they went to fire Brian, they told him he would receive 100,000 pounds per year . as long as the band existed .
@dcore64
@dcore64 6 ай бұрын
Brian was the Stones. Period!
@NoCats-on-Guitars
@NoCats-on-Guitars 3 ай бұрын
Did he write any of their songs? Ah, he didn't, he couldn't write songs.....Did he sing any of the songs? Ehh.....no he could not sing....Did he play this characteristic guitar parts that makes the Stones-music? Oooh he couldn't play like that......Did the Stones make their best albums with him? Uhmmm ....no, he was not there when they recorded these.....
@dcore64
@dcore64 3 ай бұрын
@@NoCats-on-Guitars Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@stevep4574
@stevep4574 7 ай бұрын
They're still great all these years regardless, but not the same without Brian. Somethings missing 😕 😢 😕 😢
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
So TRUE !!!
@jimilee4609
@jimilee4609 Ай бұрын
He was The Rolling Stones ! Period! 2024 No Rolling Stones ! It’s The Mick And Keith Show ! Don’t Be Fooled !
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
"Brian's full musical talents are gradually emerging to show that he has a considerable future as an arranger."--Rave magazine, July 1964
@michaelallen3207
@michaelallen3207 Ай бұрын
Jones was a power house of musical exploration and the stones new it
@handibode
@handibode 24 күн бұрын
Whatever you personally think of Brian Jones, there would be no Stones without Jones. He was the original Stone, the founder, a wild child, a reckless, thoughtless and destructive ' bad boy', and also a brilliant musician & a creative genius. The comments used here, by Richards & Jagger, don't reflect well on them. They had their own very well known and documented issues with addiction & substance abuse which they admit (elsewhere), and at the same time as Jones did, which resulted in their own professional shortfalls in studio, but they survived their addictions, and he didn't. There but for fortune.
@tomislavmihalic5283
@tomislavmihalic5283 5 ай бұрын
The tragedy of Brian was that he was important for a certain spell of time, but wasn't crucial. Had he been crucial, the Stones would have ceased to exist in 1969. A good point in the eternal lesson titled "no one is irreplaceable". Learn to live with it, or be consumed by futile past.
@Martinique325
@Martinique325 5 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree. After 1969, The Stones never recaptured what Brian brought to the table prior to his drinking/drugging downfall. Mick Taylor's contribution was great too. Nevertheless he couldn't recapture what Brian did to their music.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 4 ай бұрын
"Brian's input can be heard in every song on those RCA recordings. What he didn't touch, he went out and learned. You hear his color in songs like Lady Jane or Paint It, Black. In some cases it was more than a decorative effect. Sometimes Brian would pull the whole record."--Andrew Loog Oldham
@elenikorkodelaki2695
@elenikorkodelaki2695 7 ай бұрын
Of course Brian Jones was important and he will be forever. He was the FOUNDER of the Stones!! A brilliant multitalendet musician! After Brian Jones the magic ✨..was lost! Respect to his memory 🙏
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 7 ай бұрын
Psssh. He was a drug-adled no load.
@elenikorkodelaki2695
@elenikorkodelaki2695 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheBatugan77Psssssss.. Who are you to judge???? Are you the perfect person???? So much ironic 😏 hate... Relax!
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77Psst you’re a pathetic excuse for a troll.
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You tell it, Eleni !!!! Well said !!!!!!! :):):)
@donaldcolucci2557
@donaldcolucci2557 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 that’s pretty rich … source’s say The Rolling Stones had a bit of a reputation for “drug-aduled”
@alaincelos476
@alaincelos476 7 ай бұрын
For any musician !!! It IS incredibly heardable ,before 1969 it was music !!!!
@Stublinsky
@Stublinsky 7 ай бұрын
"Was Brian JONES So IMPORTANT To The Rolling STONES?" Oh I don't know, was Jimmy Page so important to Led Zeppelin ????
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
You can not be serious.
@tonykichenside8443
@tonykichenside8443 5 ай бұрын
Yes he was he formed the Stones,was the driving force in there early days.
@79tazman
@79tazman 7 ай бұрын
If there was no Brian Jones there would of been no Rolling Stones so how is that to answer the "Was Brian Jones so important to the rolling stones" question. It's like asking how important was Jim Morrison to the Doors.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
Nonsense... Jim's booming baritone and introspective imaginative lyrical poetry are what made the Doors. Jones could not write sing or improvise.
@ClassicRockFilms
@ClassicRockFilms 7 ай бұрын
any band today would have split royalties equally - Bill Started riff for Jumping Jack Flash Etc Etc - but hey Mick & Keith were in control
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
Mick and Keith WROTE THE SONGS. That is why they got the credits.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
Queen had the right idea by sharing credit. Not only is it fair, it more accurately reflects the song writing process.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup Queen had the right idea for a band where all four of them could and did write hit records. The Rolling Stones did not have that luxury. Only Mick and Keith had the ability to write hit records so they had to do things differently. Lyric and melodies only came to two of them.
@donaldcolucci2557
@donaldcolucci2557 6 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 I doubt no one else was involved in writing ,but the glimmer twins are good,occasionally really good , but never as entertaining as they were when Brian was with them Heck the greatful dead wanted to kick jerry out of the band because of his drug habit -….naturally 2guys with huge egos like Mck and Keith are just going to say “F “ that dude ,besides that means more dope for them, although I don’t think they did that sort of thing 🤔
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 6 ай бұрын
@@donaldcolucci2557 Most fans would disagree with your assessment...The general consensus among Stones fans is that they did their best work in the early 70s just after Jones departed.. None of the band were complete strangers to drug use but Jones was over the top obsessed with being as high as he could be all of the time. Mick points out that Brian could no longer function as a musician, but in fact, we all found out that he could no longer function as a human being.
@zhoulijun6296
@zhoulijun6296 7 ай бұрын
Lady Jane is more boroque than psychadelic
@JesusMagicPanties
@JesusMagicPanties 7 ай бұрын
Baroque itself as a style is inherently psychedelic especially bearing in mind that Rococo is its crowning glory (even including the very name).
@patriciagutierrez9947
@patriciagutierrez9947 4 ай бұрын
Brian Jones was a Brillant Stone !❤
@jimmeryellis
@jimmeryellis 6 ай бұрын
It's a shame that the commentary is klunky computer ai generated speach. Brian Jones was a great musician, my personal favorite Stones album was the US version of Between The Buttons. Though the UK version with two different tracks on it was pretty good too. I remember them from that time, and i agree with Frank Zappa's verdict. 'Best album the Stones ever did'. :)
@PopStead-o2z
@PopStead-o2z 2 күн бұрын
I was always drawn in by the, Whole 60's sound l first First time I ever heard about the "Stones " Was the Summer they played Manning Bowl in ,Lynn Massachusetts , was a little boy Live in the High lands , l went out to the patio, l said " Ma" !!! What is up that Music 🎶? And she said It was the Rolling Stone s!!! Hook ed ever since, late 60s 70's l went with what they were doing 4 ish Album s in 76 heard all of the Music 🎶, But to me l dug back to the 60's ,found "Medamorphis" ❤ Need less 2 say , Out of Time Jive in Sister Fanny ,Sleepy City The best of raw music sound!!! Well l woke up this morning!!! Break fest in Bed ! Baby Baby It's Out of Time
@NoCats-on-Guitars
@NoCats-on-Guitars 4 ай бұрын
In the early years of the Rolling Stones we didn't think about who is creating the music, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman seemed to be just the band behind Brian Jones with this guy Jagger as a singer. Brian was the remarkable face of the early Stones, because of his style, his haircut, the way he dresses, he was the first Rockstar, a role he created and that was one of the reasons that made the band famous. By the time it became clear who really made the music of the Stones and that was not Brian, that was his problem, he could not write their songs, he could not sing like Mick Jagger and he could not play guitar like Keith Richards but he wanted to be seen as the "boss" he never was.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 4 ай бұрын
So you know nothing about 60s Stones, got it.
@NoCats-on-Guitars
@NoCats-on-Guitars 4 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup Oh, I grew up with their music in the 60s and I remember that time very well.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 4 ай бұрын
@@NoCats-on-Guitars You were a child, and you still are as far as your understanding of band dynamics and the history of the Stones. Brian was the arranger in the studio, he certainly would take charge, several sources have confirmed this. Plus he and Keith created the weaving guitar technique together, and would each do the lead guitar on different songs. That's why Keith does it that way with Ronnie now. You clearly know nothing about any of this judging by your comment.
@NoCats-on-Guitars
@NoCats-on-Guitars 4 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup I was a child of course and I'm glad I still can be a child when I want. He arranged the songs, but he didn't write them and the music of the Stones changed totally as soon as he stopped doing that. The Stones then created the style they still use today and that made their songs timeless. That he was one of the reasons, beside their music, that made the band famous is no question, I think I wrote that. But I think there was no weaving between Jones and Richards, they played their parts separate, only Richards sometime mixed rhythm and lead parts in the Rock'n'Roll covers they did, for he could play the Chuck Berry style.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
@@NoCats-on-Guitars LOL, again you prove you know nothing about the Stones. Brian and Keith DID create the Stones' weaving style together. You can look up several quotes from Keith on this. It's Keith and Mick Taylor who played separately. Here's one quote for instance to prove how ignorant you are: Keith: “When Brian and I started playing together we were listening to Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters. In both cases, you had two guitars weaving around one another. We’d play those things so much-which is the way you have to do it-that we knew both parts. So then we got to the point where we got it really flash and we suddenly switch. The one doing the lead picks up the rhythm and the one doing the rhythm up the lead. It’s what Ronnie and I still call 'an ancient form of weaving.' We still do it today. We don’t have to look at each other, almost. You can almost feel it. You say, 'Ah, he’s gonna take off now. Okay, I’ll go down.' And vice versa." Question: So on "19th Nervous Breakdown," it’s you playing lead. But on "The Last Time," it’s Brian playing lead, right? Keith: "Yeah. I just did the chords on "The Last Time." Brian’s playing the main riff [sings it]. I’m playing the acoustic and I also overdubbed the chords in the solo. Just passing chords." Also, you can't have songs at all without someone arranging them. Ridiculous of you to dismiss that just because you refuse to admit you were wrong. It's like dismissing George Martin with the Beatles. I hope you rise above your childish ignorance one day.
@jamesewanchook2276
@jamesewanchook2276 7 ай бұрын
I love Brian...
@vspenceful
@vspenceful 7 ай бұрын
Brian Jones brought the kind of thing to the stones that Beatles had as an entire band. He often took what might sound simple and made it sound complex. He added sounds to the songs that made the whole song standout. The only LP I ever had after he left was Beggars Banquet. I knew something was missing after that. A lot of their music, after he left, was sort of been there, done that as far as I was concerned.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
You missed their best work.
@LynneFowler-h1g
@LynneFowler-h1g 6 ай бұрын
​@@williardbillmore5713NOPE.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 You missed being a person who uses facts instead of your fantasy stories you make up about Brian.
@davidgagnon3781
@davidgagnon3781 5 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 They became a good Rock n Roll band after the Mick Taylor period. But that's all.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
@@davidgagnon3781 Most fans agree that the Mick Taylor years were the Stones at their finest.
@elforeigner3260
@elforeigner3260 Ай бұрын
Just check his attitude He’s the Stone before the Stones
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 2 ай бұрын
Phil May lead singer of the Pretty Things and close friend of Dick Taylor, the original bass player for the Rolling Stones says The Stones would have happened with or without Brian Jones. “I think Mick and Keith had produced enough material even if Brian hadn’t joined. I think Brian was an incredible ingredient and owed to the success of The Stones but if I had to take one of the three of them out, or even two of the five of them out, I suppose Bill (Wyman) and Brian would be the two you could have lost and still had a band that meant something”.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
"No one’s ever spotted the fact that Brian Jones took two, sometimes three songs and layered them. People writing about the album have missed it because they have no clue what Joujouka music is. Listen to the women singing with flute and drum underneath them, that’s two songs playing at the same time. That’s why Brian deserves to have his name on the cover. He was making a cut-up of the music to recreate what he felt there.”--Frank Rynne, manager of the Master Musicians of Joujouka
@terenzo50
@terenzo50 5 ай бұрын
Until the drugs took over, damn right he was important. White kids needed to see white kids playing black music. I don't know why that is, but it is. The Brits were a bit less racist than the Americans when it came to music.
@bluehorizons2508
@bluehorizons2508 6 ай бұрын
For me personally, the songs and music of the Rolling Stones during their founding Brian Jones 'era' were FAR better than the later 70s+ pop-rock (mostly) crap they began to churn out!!.. 🤷‍♂️
@philippemeysman5338
@philippemeysman5338 5 ай бұрын
No Jones No Stones
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Under my Thumb, It's Not Easy, Yesterdays Papers, Lets Spend the Night Together... If that isn't enough it was Keith we also heard playing bass on Sympathy for the Devil, Jumpin Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man, Stray Cat, Connection, Live With Me, Happy and most of Goats Head Soup. That is a pretty essential part of the Stones catalog where Bill would be told what bass parts were needed and he would just say to Keith, "if you know what you want , why don't you just play it"... Often Keith would just play the bass because Bill didn't show up for many sessions. None of these songs would have been nearly as big if Keith left all the bass playing to Bill. Most of Bills bass lines were not memorable. With rare exception, when it came to Bill's bass playing he was a minimalist.
@calvinguile1315
@calvinguile1315 7 ай бұрын
Everyone always leaves out his creepy, haunting, mellotron touches on Jigsaw Puzzle ❤
@MaureenDeVries-wd9mh
@MaureenDeVries-wd9mh 5 ай бұрын
My favorite song in BB!
@SargonofQueens
@SargonofQueens 6 ай бұрын
I like the stones even though they followed the Beatles’ footsteps and became popular. Because they just did it better.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 2 ай бұрын
Keith may have his own reasons for having said what he said...But there is no denying what the band DID. No matter who says what the band's line up at the debut of the Rollin Stones tells the story. How long the Blue Boys were together. Who founded and formed the Blue Boys. The fact that the band The Blue Boys remained together and intact after they changed their name to the Rollin Stones and simply added two new guys just a little more than a month before their debut is all anyone has to know to figure out who joined who and which two guys started the band. The Rolling Stones original bass player, Dick Taylor had this to say about it ; Dick also rejects the story that The Stones was originally Brian Jones’ band. “There was always the big rift between to do with him thinking he started The Rolling Stones,” he said. “The fact is it was an amalgamation of two bands. It was his band and the thing we were doing already. That “thing” was called Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys. Taylor was in the Blue Boys with Mick and Keith. They merged with a band Brian Jones was trying to put together (Brian and Ian) and became The Rollin’ Stones. Unlike Bill Wyman, Dick Taylor was there and a part of it all at the time. He was a Blue Boy and he was a Rolling Stone. "Merged is another way of saying JOINED. When two "merge" with four... Four who had been together rehearsing for many months, it is easy to see who joined whose band. Brian joined Keith and Micks band because he had no band of his own and he wanted to be in a blues band. The "myth" that Brian, somehow "founded" an existing band who played that night is absolutely absurd and childishly naive just because a bass player who would not even join them for another five months said that is what happened.. Brian was there and here is what he said about joining Keith and Mick's band; *Interviewer:---What were you doing before you joined? ( the band)* *Brian---"Well just sort of bumming around, waiting for something to happen , really mmmmm I had quite a few jobs and I was trying to get a band going, but it was "unsuccessful" until I met up with Mick and Keith and then ...well THAT was a successful band.* " Mick and Keith were *"successful"* at putting a blues band together where Brian was *"unsuccessful"* , he said so using his own words. He didn't need to try anymore if he and Ian just joined Keith and Mick's band, so they asked and they did. Brian never claimed to have founded or formed the band. Bill was the source of that myth.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 2 ай бұрын
Jones explains to an Irish reporter how he joined Keith and Mick's band after he was "unsuccessful" at getting his own band going. He tells the reporter that Mick and Keith were "successful" where he had failed. *Interviewer: ---What were you doing before you joined? ( the band)* *Brian---"Well just sort of bumming around, waiting for something to happen , really mmmmm I had quite a few jobs and I was trying to get a band going, but it was "unsuccessful" until I met up with Mick and Keith and then ...well THAT was a "successful" band.* " Brian had a perfect opportunity here to tell the reporter how he didn't JOIN the band and that he started the band himself but he gave no indication because he never did.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
I gave this channel another chance, but if it’s going to allow the same creepy haters to post, then I’ll stick to the ones with actual Stones fans, and leave this channel to the dregs of troll misery. 😂
@Schaneification
@Schaneification 24 күн бұрын
Mick and Keith kick him out he wanted a fair share . Mick and Keith got most of the money till this day . Mick and Keith shut up and take what we give you . Point look at the income of the band members !
@gobbism
@gobbism 7 ай бұрын
The content is decent but the robot voice gets old.
@catlover4700
@catlover4700 5 ай бұрын
Yes and the repeat of the word sonic 😉😅
@franktaconelli9095
@franktaconelli9095 7 ай бұрын
since it was Brian’s band I would think he was important! and Mick Taylor is one of the most inspired, soulful guitar virtuosos on the planet; the fact we’re still discussing the Stones in 2024 is due to the on-stage reputation they earned during the Mick Taylor years
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
The Rolling Stones were NEVER " Brian's band" They were ALWAYS Keith's band as they remain to this day.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 Nope. Plenty of proof out there that you are wrong as usual. You live in kiss Keith's ass fantasy land, lol.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
I am a bass player and made a living playing in mostly cover bands in bars through the 70s 80s and 90s. I not only listened to Bill's bass parts but I learned to play them and I learned how to embellish and strengthen -them to fill out what was sometimes only a three or four piece band. It is true that Keith only played bass on about 7% of their catalog, but they were all winning bass parts in winning songs. Don't try to tell me Bill was a better bass player than Keith..He wasn't.. I lived much of their music in real time. I know better.
@richardsnodgrass8647
@richardsnodgrass8647 6 ай бұрын
I like the memories. Not the AI. . . . Just saying. ✌❤
@thomaswilliams3519
@thomaswilliams3519 7 ай бұрын
Great subject matter but this video seems to have an AI kind of repetitiveness.
@MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb
@MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb 7 ай бұрын
Brian Jones remains the founder of The Rolling Stones yet he was given no songwriting credit for his contributions to their music. What Jagger-Richards, and Andrew Loog-Oldham, did to Brian Jones's psyche was sinful and will not be forgiven. The narrator delivers plenty of mistakes and misinformation to the uninformed, misinformed; including and not limited to confusing a blues song with a psychedelic tune. Nevertheless… Brian Jones remains one of the most innovative multi-instrumentalists in musicology. God Bless Brian Jones. Sleep In Heavenly Peace.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 7 ай бұрын
Brian didn't compose jackshit.
@MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb
@MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb 7 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 Imagine “Paint It Black” or “Ruby Tuesday” or “No Expectations” or… Without the Inventive Musicianship of Brian Jones.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77He composed an entire film score. And he was the arranger for the Stones’ songs. He was their George Martin. You’re not a Stones fan, dude. Jog on.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 Bullshit. Get a clue!
@Nicholas-dreamlove
@Nicholas-dreamlove 4 ай бұрын
YES HE WAS SO IMPORTANT (before he lost Anita to Keith) because that all started a downward spiral for Brian (IMO).
@plaguelover71
@plaguelover71 2 күн бұрын
And just a month before he'd lost his best friend Tara Browne in a car accident.
@abw48
@abw48 3 ай бұрын
i was 21 and Living in south Kensington London when Brian died, we were all shocked as we didn't know anybody that age that actually died and then I went with a few other to the Concert in the Park, tripping on Acid... What days indeed...
@jimilee4609
@jimilee4609 Ай бұрын
Brian Wrote Ruby Tuesday Period! It’s NOT! A Jagger/Richard Tunes
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Obviously you have no idea what a "fuzz bass" is. A fuzz bass is an ordinary bass guitar that is played, plugged into an overdriven preamp called a fuzz box that give a bass guitar's normally smooth and deep tone a raspy out front sound. Keith played fuzz bass on rare occasion... most great bass players have, like McCartney and Squires, but most of the songs Keith had to play bass on were normal sounding bass guitar . Keith always kept his own Precision Fender bass on hand in the studio, in case Bill didn't get the feel for one of Keith's masterpieces and deferred the bass playing to the guy who wrote them. Do you really think that Sympathy For the Devil, Street Fighting Man and Jumpin Jack Flash were songs that "didn't sound very good"??? I don't have to defend those classic monster hit songs ... probably the best songs they ever wrote and recorded... Those songs and their arrangements speak for themselves and so does Keith's brilliant bass guitar work on those classics he saved from Bill's mediocre bass playing. Even Mick Taylor and Ron Wood have had to fill in for Wyman when he wasn't feeling the groove on some songs On his worst day as a junkie Keith was still more creative and a more talented bass and guitar player, with a better work ethic than Brian and Bill were at their best put together.. You can never say that Keith was a slacker at any time in his career. He has always had the reputation as a tireless work horse in the studio and on stage. He still does at 80.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
. Jones did not start or found the Stones. When he was unsuccessful at starting his own band Brian went to Keith and asked if he could join the Blue Boys and Keith agreed. The band who debuted at the Marquee Club July 12th 1962, as the Rollin Stones were the four members of Keith and Mick's band, Mick Jagger, the lead singer of the Blue Boys, Keith Richards the guitarist of the Blue Boys, Dick Taylor the bass player of the Blue Boys and Tony Chapman the drummer of the Blue Boys. the band Keith founded the year before. They were joined on the Marquee Club stage by Brian and Ian, who joined the band figuratively and physically that night. Brian DID NOT form or found the Rolling Stones in any way shape or form. Brian JOINED Keith's band. THAT band changed their name from the Blue Boys to the Rollin Stones. It is all there in the historical record once you wade through all the mythology and lies Bill has been spouting to book writers, journalists or anyone who will listen with his worshiping lies about Jones for decades.. Just look up who first played the Marquee Club as the Rollin Stones and then. look up who were in the band Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys That Keith and Mick founded in 1961. The history is clear you will find Dick Taylor and Tony Chapman in both lists You seem to think you have it all figured out, but sadly most of what you are saying is wrong.. Ian could not be "part of Brian's band because Brian never had a band. It was just he and Ian when Brian realized that his attempt to start his own band had been " unsuccessful."..( His own word). Brian and Keith and Mick were all sitting in with Alexis' band around the same time and Mick's singing was many times more impressive than Brian's slide guitar. None of them were more established than the others at any given time. They were all playing for free when they sat in with Blues inc, It was more like open mic invitation than anyone joining anyone's band.. Brian never managed the group at any time after he joined Keith's band. Ian was their road manager until 1985 but Brian could barely manage himself. So that is false. Brian has been given far more credit than he was ever due. Most of what has been written about him are lies and myths.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Bill wasn't the best bass player... Hell, Bill wasn't even the best bass player in the Stones. Much of what he played was immediately forgetale. All the biggest hits had Keith playing bass in the studio...Then Bill would learn the part to play live. Don't forget he got the job because he always had lots of cigarettes and he let them use a couple of spare amplifiers. As a bass player Wyman was always very unimpressive.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Bill wasn't the best bass player... Hell, Bill wasn't even the best bass player in the Stones. Much of what he played was immediately forgetale. All the biggest hits had Keith playing bass in the studio...Then Bill would learn the part to play live. Don't forget he got the job because he always had lots of cigarettes and he let them use a couple of spare amplifiers. As a bass player Wyman was always very unimpressive.
@DeElSendero
@DeElSendero 2 ай бұрын
So basically what you're saying is Dick Taylor is wrong in what he is say here starting @13:30 even though he was there and was actually part of what he's describing. Just out of curiosity were you there at that time?
@afvet5075
@afvet5075 4 ай бұрын
No Brian, no Stones. That's a fact.
@humanbeing5300
@humanbeing5300 4 ай бұрын
It’s always funny to hear failed musicians in the comments criticize successful musicians.
@Bwahzehdezooner
@Bwahzehdezooner 6 ай бұрын
It'd be great if somebody could edit the AI's interpretations of the narration...which is also AI. Watch the homonyms.
@terrancearnold8530
@terrancearnold8530 Ай бұрын
I always imagined Brian a wise ass mean spirited type a guy who I loath in particular. Anyone that has this flaw sorry can't handle it.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup Ай бұрын
Your imagination is not reality.
@حسینمحمودی-ذ9ي
@حسینمحمودی-ذ9ي 6 ай бұрын
The Rolling Stones without Brian Jones = ZERO
@aileenjackson1706
@aileenjackson1706 7 ай бұрын
His parent's should have taken him somewhere for help.
@MichaelGallant-on4bi
@MichaelGallant-on4bi 7 ай бұрын
Somewhere...
@jimmyrodasmolestina979
@jimmyrodasmolestina979 3 ай бұрын
You mean why he was killed 😮
@terri-b7492
@terri-b7492 7 ай бұрын
Was Brian Jones important to The Rolling Stones,he was The Rolling Stones,nuff said
@fuchsiaswing8545
@fuchsiaswing8545 7 ай бұрын
No, he wasn’t. And that’s absurd to say that.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
@@fuchsiaswing8545Actually he was.
@fuchsiaswing8545
@fuchsiaswing8545 7 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup He wasn't the Rolling Stones. They go nowhere if he’s the principal member. Indeed, he was crucial in their formative years, but you're parroting Bill Wyman’s recollections, which are biased and inaccurate. Bill wasn't even there at the earliest period. Brian couldn't write original material. His guitar playing was below par by the mid-1960s. He was unreliable and futile in the last few years with the band. What you're saying is ridiculous.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
@@fuchsiaswing8545 Take that nonsense to your other trolls buddies, sweetie. 😂 I’ll stick with the actual Stones fans.
@fuchsiaswing8545
@fuchsiaswing8545 7 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup Actual Stones fans don't over-romanticize Brian or Mick Taylor. You're the noobs who just discovered the Stones.
@dragicavrtelova6332
@dragicavrtelova6332 6 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@davemac9563
@davemac9563 7 ай бұрын
He was, and then he wasn’t. Either get with the program and try to change with the group, or go your own way. Sadly he went the wrong way and died too young. I’ll admire and appreciate Brian’s contributions but the fact that the stones are still playing to this day shows Mick and Keith are the ones worth the credit for keeping the band relevant. Brian became more of a legend since he was 27 when he died and was another rock and roll victim that his importance was exaggerated to some degree. For some reason that melancholic attachment society has for these figures overshadows the work of many bands beyond their most popular member
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
By your logic, the Beatles were no longer relevant after 1970. So yeah, your logic is nonsense. The fact is Brian's influence also kept the band remembered. It's his era hits that most audiences remember (Paint it Black, Ruby Tuesday, etc.).
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
The band's success always revolved around the undeniable and unmistakable talents of the bands main writers and performers Mick and Keith. Jones was a poser and a hanger on. Most of what is written about Brian Jones is sentimental myth and flat out lies.
@davemac9563
@davemac9563 7 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup that makes no sense. The Beatles were done, and were already legends even before they broke up. The stones aren’t the same. Brian contributed to hits, but Richards and Jagger still put in more of the work in the songs. Brian couldn’t write songs himself to save his life.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
@@davemac9563 Honey, Brian was a legend before he died, he was the most popular member of the Stones, and a 60s icon by himself. Multiple sources indicate that Brian would arrange the songs they brought in, which is just as important as writing. He also should have received co-credit on multiple songs. It sounds like you've been listening to some out of date propaganda.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheaterPup👈😆 His era. Not his hits, TheaterPoop.
@mary-annmckerchar8588
@mary-annmckerchar8588 7 ай бұрын
"I was trying to get a band going but I was unsuccessful until I joined up with Mick and Keith." Straight from the horse's mouth
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 7 ай бұрын
As were Mick and Keith before they joined up with Brian. What was your point again?
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
Brian was UNSUCCESSFUL at trying to start his own band, so he asked Keith if he and Ian could join Keith's band and Keith agreed. Funny that Brian Jones worshipers will not believe Brian's own words when it doesn't fit their narrative..
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
@@TheaterPup The point is that Mick and Keith and Dick Taylor WERE successful at starting a band who sounded very impressively just like the Rolling Stones six months BEFORE Brian joined them. The recordings they made prove that out, puppy. Jagger's unmistakable vocal style and Keith's eclectic and driving rhythm and blues guitar sound are there on early Blues Boys recordings well before Brian joined, for anyone to hear.
@lylecampbell9036
@lylecampbell9036 7 ай бұрын
​@@williardbillmore5713BS
@lylecampbell9036
@lylecampbell9036 7 ай бұрын
​@@williardbillmore5713BS
@brianbard3410
@brianbard3410 6 ай бұрын
If you ha e ever played with someone who is insecure it's a creative dead end beacuse they can't bring themselves to agree with you, or they don't want to share music and ideas for the spector of everyone out to get insecure passive aggressive people makes it next to impossible at that point why bother, it's going to get stupid
@billmichae
@billmichae 4 ай бұрын
Not Allan but Robert Zimerman
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
How can anyone in their right mind say that Brian Jones "founded the Rolling Stones when their debut performance at the Marquee Club On July 12th 1962 consisted of the band called the Blue Boys, Keith's band that had been founded the year before. They had changed their name and they added two new players Brian and Ian Stewart but the rest of the band was Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Dick Taylor on Bass and the drummer Tony Chapman. The performers on stage that night were the entire Blue Boys band, Keith's band. The only group Brian Jones ever founded was the 27 club. It is all a myth and a lie to say that Brian Jones founded the Rolling Stones. Brian JOINED the Blue Boys,Keith's band and THAT band then changed their name to the Rollin Stone It was Keith and Mick who brought the entire Blue Boys band together and then when Brian and Ian asked to join they brought them in as well.. the Rollin Stones were Keith's band and he founded them. and led them to world wide fame and success.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Mick, Keith and Dick Taylor founded a blues band, in 1961 , that would become the Rolling Stones.. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Keith Mick and Dick Taylor made all those recordings that sounded impressively like the later Rolling Stones with Micks unmistakable song style and Keith's eclectic rhythm and blues accompaniment. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Jones was unsuccessful at starting his own band and asked Keith if he and Ian could join the Blue Boys. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Keith said yes and let them join his band... Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Alexis Korner suggested to Mick that Rollin Stone would make a good name for his band one evening at the Ealing Club when Mick and Keith sat in with Blues Inc., Alexis band. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when they got their first real club gig and they all discussed changing their name to the Rollin Stones.. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND,. when they debuted at the Marquee Club as the Rollin Stones. Bill wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, when Dick Taylor played bass for the Rolling Stones at the Marquee Club that night. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, When Brian promised that he could get them gigs because he supposedly knew all the club owners but failed to do so handing that job over to Ian Stewart and others. Bill Wyman WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BAND, until late in 1962 , almost 1963 after all these things occurred. Why should anyone believe anything Bill Wyman says he remembers when at the time he was on the other side of London playing bass for another band the Cliftons and he didn't even know anyone in the Blue Boys OR the Rolling Stones?
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
It is not revisionist history ... It is plain and simple arithmetic. When two join four the four are the majority of the sum. Two thirds of the Rollin Stones consisted of the Blue Boys... a complete band FORMED and FOUNDED the previous year by Mick Keith and Dick only one third were newcomers Brian and Ian. By definition it is impossible to accurately state that one or two of the newcomers formed or founded the band of six... In fact it is a lie. They "threw" Brian and Ian in with their existing band lot ... THAT is what actually happened. It was always Keith and Mick's band as it is today..They were the original founding and forming members. Everyone else came and joined them later.
@kidtexaus1
@kidtexaus1 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the post and all that went into it. However, an hour and a half of waxing poetic about Brian’s Olympian talent quickly becomes annoying and repetitive. Using a human narrator would have been an improvement too.
@humanbeing5300
@humanbeing5300 4 ай бұрын
It’s a shame Brian collapsed so quickly. He just couldn’t handle drugs - not everyone can. The Stones would have been a different band if he remained.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 4 ай бұрын
No one can "handle" drugs. That's a myth. And Brian lasted as long as the Beatles and no one says they collapsed so quickly.
@kriskairn3715
@kriskairn3715 17 күн бұрын
He had asthma.
@dancahill9585
@dancahill9585 11 күн бұрын
Stones were like Pink Floyd. Neither made their best music until they dropped the drug addled boat anchors holding them back. Mick Taylor was much more important to the Stones than Brian Jones. That's when the greatest Stones albums were made.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 8 күн бұрын
Completely inaccurate comparison. Pink Floyd was just starting out in the 60s. Whereas the Stones were the direct competition to the Beatles throughout the 60s. And it's the songs from Brian's era that are still most remembered by audiences today. It's also odd for you to target any one member of the Stones regarding drugs. But as usual, Taylor fans always seem to hate the Stones before and after he joined. It reeks of insecurity, heh.
@garyporcello
@garyporcello 3 ай бұрын
Keith! Seemed so callous. About firing brian but in his heroin days..he was kept through his heroin days.i mean years..
@deepspacepilots
@deepspacepilots 5 ай бұрын
15:17 they needed the money
@DH_Artist
@DH_Artist 5 ай бұрын
Yet the Stones started to make their best stuff AFTER Brian…
@mikec6733
@mikec6733 6 ай бұрын
Even the early Marquis Club ad said "Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones". Interesting...
@davidgagnon3781
@davidgagnon3781 5 ай бұрын
Well, Mick Jagger was the front man, so that only makes sense. Though it's not always done like that. I'm specifically thinking about how it was never Jim Morrison and The Doors. But it's not unusual to list the front man before the band.
@jerryrichards8172
@jerryrichards8172 6 ай бұрын
He was important because he started them but the last 50s not much.
@johnmcgettigan4243
@johnmcgettigan4243 7 ай бұрын
No Brian No Rolling Stones
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 7 ай бұрын
No Jones= Better Rolling Stones. There best work and greatest success was AFTER 1970.
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 6 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 LIES !
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperAnimelover100 Oh really?? Okay so cite for me a period in the band's history when they sold more albums. Filled more arenas ALL OVER THE WORLD and received more critical acclaim,than the four or five years just after they fired the drunk drugged out guy with the fluffy blonde hair. No Jones = Better Rolling Stones.
@ronnieron9912
@ronnieron9912 5 ай бұрын
@@williardbillmore5713 Nope. Most hits with Jones. Go take a pill and be quiet!
@Bwahzehdezooner
@Bwahzehdezooner 6 ай бұрын
Actually, the intro riff was Keith, on a Les Paul. That doesn't take anything away from Brian, however.
@c.e.anderson558
@c.e.anderson558 4 ай бұрын
I read years ago he mght have been murdered And covered up.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 2 ай бұрын
Utter nonsense. Not one note of the melody Jones played on Lady Jane was not first written, arrainged, played and sung by Keith and Mick. All Jones *could* do was to mimic their haunting melodies on odd instruments..
@billmichae
@billmichae 4 ай бұрын
The most important was Mr. Klein.
@philipwelsh1862
@philipwelsh1862 5 ай бұрын
Brian was better than Taylor
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
It is not revisionist history ... It is plain and simple arithmetic. When two join four the four are the majority of the sum. Two thirds of the Rollin Stones consisted of the Blue Boys... a complete band FORMED and FOUNDED the previous year by Mick Keith and Dick only one third were newcomers Brian and Ian. By definition it is impossible to accurately state that one or two of the newcomers formed or founded the band of six... In fact it is a lie. They "threw" Brian and Ian in with their existing band lot ... THAT is what actually happened. It was always Keith and Mick's band as it is today..They were the original founding and forming members. Everyone else came and joined them later.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Under my Thumb, It's Not Easy, Yesterdays Papers, Lets Spend the Night Together... If that isn't enough it was Keith we also heard playing bass on Sympathy for the Devil, Jumpin Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man, Stray Cat, Connection, Live With Me, Happy and most of Goats Head Soup. That is a pretty essential part of the Stones catalog where Bill would be told what bass parts were needed and he would just say to Keith, "if you know what you want , why don't you just play it"... Often Keith would just play the bass because Bill didn't show up for many sessions. None of these songs would have been nearly as big if Keith left all the bass playing to Bill. Most of Bills bass lines were not memorable. With rare exception, when it came to Bill's bass playing he was a minimalist.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Obviously you have no idea what a "fuzz bass" is. A fuzz bass is an ordinary bass guitar that is played, plugged into an overdriven preamp called a fuzz box that give a bass guitar's normally smooth and deep tone a raspy out front sound. Keith played fuzz bass on rare occasion... most great bass players have, like McCartney and Squires, but most of the songs Keith had to play bass on were normal sounding bass guitar . Keith always kept his own Precision Fender bass on hand in the studio, in case Bill didn't get the feel for one of Keith's masterpieces and deferred the bass playing to the guy who wrote them. Do you really think that Sympathy For the Devil, Street Fighting Man and Jumpin Jack Flash were songs that "didn't sound very good"??? I don't have to defend those classic monster hit songs ... probably the best songs they ever wrote and recorded... Those songs and their arrangements speak for themselves and so does Keith's brilliant bass guitar work on those classics he saved from Bill's mediocre bass playing. Even Mick Taylor and Ron Wood have had to fill in for Wyman when he wasn't feeling the groove on some songs On his worst day as a junkie Keith was still more creative and a more talented bass and guitar player, with a better work ethic than Brian and Bill were at their best put together.. You can never say that Keith was a slacker at any time in his career. He has always had the reputation as a tireless work horse in the studio and on stage. He still does at 80.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 3 ай бұрын
Brian Jones was the least important and the least talented member of the Rolling Stones. He was a poser and a hanger on never writing or singing or improvising. He played what he was told to play because left to his own devises he was not at all creative and he had no musical imagination whatsoever. Jones never formed or founded the band and he never really led them musically, technically or in business.. Jones was a slacker and a lazy musician. This lack of importance was demonstrated in the days, weeks, months and years immediately following Brian's departure from the band who brought him on board in the summer of 1962. Without the self indulgent narcissistic parasite Jones in the band they reached heights of creativity and artistic expression never before realized or imagined.The band's world-wide success became unparalleled and phenomenal. If Jones contributed a tiny fraction of what his worshipers claim for him , the band would have faltered and taken time to establish their footing after firing Jones... But what occurred was exactly the opposite. the band exploded with artistic expression that brought them unprecedented critical acclaim and praise from critics and fans alike from all over the world indicating that Jones was in all likelihood actually holding them back from attaining their full creative and artistic potential on the world stage. The turn in their careers took from 1967 to 1974 should make Jones's unimportance painfully obvious to anyone paying attention but somehow his worshipers cling to the notion that this nonessential drunken fop had an important roll in their development, They could not be more wrong.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
Bill wasn't the best bass player... Hell, Bill wasn't even the best bass player in the Stones. Much of what he played was immediately forgetale. All the biggest hits had Keith playing bass in the studio...Then Bill would learn the part to play live. Don't forget he got the job because he always had lots of cigarettes and he let them use a couple of spare amplifiers. As a bass player Wyman was always very unimpressive.
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
It is not revisionist history ... It is plain and simple arithmetic. When two join four the four are the majority of the sum. Two thirds of the Rollin Stones consisted of the Blue Boys... a complete band FORMED and FOUNDED the previous year by Mick Keith and Dick only one third were newcomers Brian and Ian. By definition it is impossible to accurately state that one or two of the newcomers formed or founded the band of six... In fact it is a lie. They "threw" Brian and Ian in with their existing band lot ... THAT is what actually happened. It was always Keith and Mick's band as it is today..They were the original founding and forming members. Everyone else came and joined them later. Reply
@williardbillmore5713
@williardbillmore5713 5 ай бұрын
I am a bass player and made a living playing in mostly cover bands in bars through the 70s 80s and 90s. I not only listened to Bill's bass parts but I learned to play them and I learned how to embellish and strengthen -them to fill out what was sometimes only a three or four piece band. It is true that Keith only played bass on about 7% of their catalog, but they were all winning bass parts in winning songs. Don't try to tell me Bill was a better bass player than Keith..He wasn't.. I lived much of their music in real time. I know better.
@PaulFormentos
@PaulFormentos 7 ай бұрын
Of course he was....they needed someone to sacrifice
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