Bandsaw Tuning For The Anally Retentive

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Rockwood Joe

Rockwood Joe

7 жыл бұрын

OCD about blade drift? You're not alone.

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@shadaj
@shadaj 6 жыл бұрын
I'm totally a self-taught woodworker. I've had no experience working with anyone other than myself. The only instruction I have had is on KZbin. I've had to teach myself how to adjust all my tools and how to use them, how to select wood, how to measure accurately, how to choose the right square for the job, the proper use of hand tools, and so on so forth. If it wasn't for woodworkers like you sharing what you know, I'd still be standing out in my workshop scratching my head. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It means a great deal to me that you are available anytime I need some help. I'm subscribing!
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and whether you are hobbyist or pro, keep the genre alive. Woodworking isn't nearly as popular as it was 20 years ago which is the saddest part.
@IanKWatts
@IanKWatts 5 жыл бұрын
I'm alive with what you have said. I too, am basically self taught in the past 10 years. Nowadays I attend a Men's Shed where with the camaraderie I'm learning more about woodwork..
@benpress8884
@benpress8884 5 жыл бұрын
In case you weren't aware, tool manuals are an excellent source of information on how to use, adjust and maintain your power tools. Most can be found on the Intrawebs.
@hypnoraythompson5824
@hypnoraythompson5824 5 жыл бұрын
@@benpress8884 personally I will learn more from watching and listening to a teacher than I could with just a manual. I am not saying that manuals are not as good, they have their place, but watching a tutor for me I will learn more.
@barrymeyers5066
@barrymeyers5066 5 жыл бұрын
@@hypnoraythompson5824 I, like you, learn best visually. When I have to go to a new doctor, and as I age this happens more than I'd like, I'm still required to fill out a stack of paperwork. So much for paperless systems. One question that I've noticed recently is one where they ask you how you learn best. Video, audio, written, etc. I'm not sure what doctors do with this information. I'll have to remember to ask next time. Maybe they sell it to marketing companies. Anyway, if it wasn't for KZbin my projects would probably look like crap and I wouldn't be able to count to 10 on my fingers.
@Aslyuriel
@Aslyuriel 6 жыл бұрын
I clicked this video on accident and decided to actually watch it. I regret nothing.
@richfolkes
@richfolkes 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. Highly informative.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 5 жыл бұрын
A OK!
@0ADVISOR0
@0ADVISOR0 5 жыл бұрын
same here
@thomasbarlow4223
@thomasbarlow4223 5 жыл бұрын
@joestearns8931
@joestearns8931 4 жыл бұрын
I love this. I always thought my bandsaw was a tool of the Divinity to punish me for my impure thoughts as a young man. Thank you. Now I can return to my impure thoughts.
@martinschroter8736
@martinschroter8736 6 жыл бұрын
Now i know how to perfectly set up a bandsaw. All i need now is a bandsaw 😂
@rouge5140
@rouge5140 5 жыл бұрын
well get a fuking bandsaw then. a cheap, used one on eBay isn't bad for starter. just make sure the zero clearance insert hole is square if the insert is missing, makes it easier to make.
@rouge5140
@rouge5140 5 жыл бұрын
@Don Shaffer Why?
@michaeljedd9359
@michaeljedd9359 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@meaders2002
@meaders2002 4 жыл бұрын
@Don Shaffer It seems internet trolls are now invading technical spaces. So sad. Get a hobby, find a friend, go away, troll.
@petercallaghan9851
@petercallaghan9851 4 жыл бұрын
@Don Shaffer Yeah....why not?
@2k3sgm
@2k3sgm 6 жыл бұрын
Who would have ever thought a video about band saw blades could be informative and entertaining enough to watch for 15+ minutes?! But you managed to make one and then some, actually took away a few pointers, Thanks.
@jeffmartin52
@jeffmartin52 6 жыл бұрын
2k3sgm b
@daemokidd92
@daemokidd92 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly , no idea why I watched this since I don't even own or use a bandsaw but it's informative
@CsikiAttila
@CsikiAttila 5 жыл бұрын
same here. but it was awesome
@alext9067
@alext9067 5 жыл бұрын
Food for thought. I did the same.
@whoDatBeDare
@whoDatBeDare 5 жыл бұрын
I watched it to confirm why I don't own a bandsaw. An absolute fucking shit of a tool to get running and keep running.
@MiaN3420
@MiaN3420 5 жыл бұрын
Same here... I'm just anally retentive & wanted to be prepared to get anally retentive about a bandsaw, should I ever get one... you know that blade flutter will just set me off :D
@robertdogoli5535
@robertdogoli5535 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiaN3420 I just bought mine and the video was very helpful, watched several others and they were all helpful. Now if I can put the things I saw into practice.
@leosbagoftricks3732
@leosbagoftricks3732 4 жыл бұрын
This shows how a little care can make a tool like a bandsaw capable of impressive results - bravo!
@rickshick8544
@rickshick8544 3 жыл бұрын
A month ago I bought a 14" bandsaw from Harbor Freight and yesterday got it assembled enough to try some cuts. I have never used a bandsaw and certainly have no idea how to tell if one is set up well. This video has been of great help. Now I need a fence for it and I already knew I needed a small machinist's square. Thank you.
@mmclaugh08
@mmclaugh08 4 жыл бұрын
Best bandsaw tuning video I've seen. Straight forward and no nonsense vernacular. Thanks for your candor and getting to the point. I can finally set mine up right. Didn't know about the cool blocks. Will be looking for those.
@ksgjlg
@ksgjlg 5 жыл бұрын
I've been woodworking for a long time and this is the best bandsaw setup I've seen. Thanks
@gmoore6166
@gmoore6166 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, enjoyed watching as I’ve been adjusting mine for many years but I learned two things that I never checked and that was the back edge of the blade and the slide bar! We never stop learning, thanks for sharing. I’ll be checking the back of blade and the slide bar on my next blade change!
@FloridaDIYer
@FloridaDIYer 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a KZbin video that gets right to the point without a long drawn out introduction.
@w4shep
@w4shep 4 жыл бұрын
This is hands down THE best bandsaw tune-up video I’ve ever seen! I’ve seen 2. Thanks for sharing your practical OCD with us 😁 I’ve never thought to grind the sides of the blade, nor have the cool blocks touch the blade - so much easier.
@garybowman9852
@garybowman9852 5 жыл бұрын
I got a lot out of this video. I’ve never had anyone show me how to tune up a bandsaw so I really enjoyed the information you’ve provided.
@Aztecs911
@Aztecs911 4 жыл бұрын
Picking up my first bandsaw this week. Been watching many youtube vids of how to stuff while waiting for it. Came across this one and found it the most entertaining and fun to watch. Good tips and your commentary and presentation is A+++. Your style keeps the viewer engaged. Well done. Great bits of humor & thanks for sharing.
@MrsMelissaNewcomb
@MrsMelissaNewcomb 5 жыл бұрын
I like your style! Easy to follow, lots of description and casual language really makes following you enjoyable and educational! Thanks!
@daveburkhart7029
@daveburkhart7029 4 жыл бұрын
As a saw blade manufacturer, I wish everyone would pay even half as much attention to their machines as you do. When something goes wrong with a band sawing operation, nearly everyone blades the blade first when in most cases, it’s not the blade at all causing the problems.
@joelegrand5903
@joelegrand5903 4 жыл бұрын
This statement is true for most machines in the world, not just the wood working machines. A good operator, who adjust & maintains his/her machines are worth their weight in GOLD & rubies !
@eflanagan1921
@eflanagan1921 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelegrand5903 Probably still true in Japan, Germany Switzerland Austria . The USA, other than specialty shops(racing) just ship all the shit !
@bunkie2100
@bunkie2100 4 жыл бұрын
While what you say is something of a universal truth (people not paying attention to the details), a large part of this video was devoted to cleaning up the blade. This is not a criticism of bandsaw blades, in general, just that any blade needs to be properly bedded to the saw.
@billthomas6296
@billthomas6296 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir you are definitely full of it, full of knowledge that is. Thank you for this informative video. I have a small tabletop Delta I inherited from from my father and it needs an overhaul.. The tires keep falling off etc. and I think from just the little bit I've seen from you and a couple of other videos I hope to get it running.
@chucksandberg1
@chucksandberg1 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I’ve ever seen on tuning a Bandsaw. It’s how I was taught in a machine shop. Every time you change a blade or go to use one you check those things if you didn’t set it up. Very good. Thank you.
@twh7011
@twh7011 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I appreciate the time it took to make this video. Thank you for sharing your experience, information and time.
@andrewmillwardwatford9410
@andrewmillwardwatford9410 5 жыл бұрын
You have inspired me to tune my band saw. It a very underused tool in my workshop. If I could achieve the level of accuracy you demonstrate I would use it a lot more. Thank you for your donation to the world of wood work.
@shannoncooley1575
@shannoncooley1575 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job ! It's sad that bandsaw tuning has to be such a mystery. I had to learn most of what you presented the hard way and you addressed additional issues that nobody talks about. I picked up a few more tips. Thanks. This kinda makes a woodworker want to run out to their bandsaw.
@leorumley8132
@leorumley8132 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was so much involved in adjusting a bandsaw, I've aquired an oldish one and I'm so glad I came across this video before I tried using it, I too am slowly learning from these tutorials and plenty of trial and error, ive just subscribed too, many thanks indeed.
@337NAVYSEAL
@337NAVYSEAL 5 жыл бұрын
What a great and simple way you have with your explanations and demonstration of band saw maintenance! I’m a beginner and I was impressed and learned a lot! Thank you
@porksboy
@porksboy 4 жыл бұрын
Watching in Nov 2019 and just learned more about the band saw I inherited from my father. Thanks fo the tips.
@georgewocosky
@georgewocosky 6 жыл бұрын
Well thought out explanations to the shortcomings of the bandsaw, & possible / logical remedies ! Sadly, we live in a time of planned obsolescence - throw away society, where commerce is nearly all that matters . Thanks for taking the time to share ! * I was an experimental / prototype machinist , & watched the transformation of CNC taking precedence over 'thinking' manual machinists. . . When 'metrification' & overseas labor took man out of manufacturing here in the U.S. , it was sad to see great old machines being sold for scrap prices, *and LESS ! A great saying that's stuck with me over the years, " If you CAN'T make it ACCURATE, make it ADJUSTABLE ! " Take care ! *SUBBED !
@gregmislick1117
@gregmislick1117 5 жыл бұрын
when they shut down the charlestown navy yard in the '70s the equip went as scrap for 10 cents on the pound.... a lather that would turn a prop shaft for an aircraft carrier.... sad - SOMEBODY got a HELL of a deal
@supergeek1418
@supergeek1418 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I was pretty much clueless as how to set up my band saw. You've cut through my confusion, and laid out what I need to do in a clear, easy to understand manner. Once again, THANK YOU!!!
@davidbudd3789
@davidbudd3789 4 жыл бұрын
I watched it all. Very helpful! I’m a newbie on the bandsaw and this was great to explain all the parts and how to adjust them. Never thought about the blades themselves not being true. Thanks!
@scotthaddad563
@scotthaddad563 6 жыл бұрын
Great tips!And thanks for the sarcasm as well.A self deprecating sense of humor is funny to no end!
@brookswade5774
@brookswade5774 4 жыл бұрын
I have used a bandsaw for years. I just never realized how wrong my knowledge of them actually was. This was very helpful.
@andrewwright6778
@andrewwright6778 4 жыл бұрын
Informative, clear and detailed with great photography and narration. Thank-you so much, I watched all the way through. Now I really wish I owned a bandsaw...
@jasondoust4935
@jasondoust4935 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my first bandsaw a week and a half ago and am now learning to tune it, thanks to the generous woodworkers like yourself. Thank you for the substantial effort you've put into this video.
@jonathanmaddock6824
@jonathanmaddock6824 5 жыл бұрын
Good job. 21 years ago I bought a Jet BS and know what it feels like to obsess about making it "right".
@wmwalkerco
@wmwalkerco 6 жыл бұрын
Well that was awesome! It was like a mix between Food Wishes and You Suck At Cooking, but for woodworkers!
@phillipstai7204
@phillipstai7204 4 жыл бұрын
"You suck at Bandsaws. Yeah, you totally suck!" Hahaha
@toms4123
@toms4123 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that Joe. Setting up all tools/machines I use is the greatest help I can get.
@christianpetersen1782
@christianpetersen1782 5 жыл бұрын
A very informative video and timely in that I’m a volunteer at a vintage railway workshop and have been asked to sort out their wavering bandsaw. Thank you for investing your time to help others - THAT’S professional. Many thanks from the other viewer!
@xrookie650
@xrookie650 5 жыл бұрын
You remind me of “This old Tony” except with wood. Great video! I’m going to give those cool blocks a shot
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 5 жыл бұрын
They work awesome! If not available, use hardwood like maple or cherry! Cheers!
@dandixon4034
@dandixon4034 4 жыл бұрын
Love how your tools have rust and saw dust,I would listen to that more than someone that has brand new tools and no dust in the shop,thanks
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was kinda embarrassed. I was going for an opposite look of the bright and cheery.
@dwightdomonkos7335
@dwightdomonkos7335 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comprehensive video, I've been using a bandsaw for a long time and learned some things. I'll have to try the cool blocks. Thank you for taking the time to demonstrate the setup and testing.
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 4 жыл бұрын
Been running and tuning bandsaws for 40 years but some of your insights are new to my understanding. Thank you.
@amundsen575
@amundsen575 6 жыл бұрын
good job , applies to metal bandsaws as well. All of you wood chucks need a precision square, calipers and a dial indicator and mag base to keep tools in alignment. Well tuned machines make work easy.
@edwardreid8861
@edwardreid8861 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Some good points. There seems to be a lot of debate as to where the blade should run on the top wheel. Either teeth gullets central or blade itself centred on the wheel. I think neither is necessarily correct. The gullet to the mid-line has to be wrong because the gullet depth can be so different for different TPI. What I was taught to do is to draw a line dothe middle of a thin piece of wood and cut exactly down the line (without using the fence.) If the piece of wood needs to be tilted one way or the other to follow the line then I adjust the blade run on the top wheel until the piece of wood runs exactly parallel to, but not touching, the fence. Seems to work well and if done carefully should eliminate drift when using the fence.
@MrMemusashi
@MrMemusashi 5 жыл бұрын
So if you have to move the peace of wood left to stay on the line. Does that mean you move the blade more to the back of the drive well or more to the front of the drive well?
@csanders0520
@csanders0520 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this informative video. I enjoy watching a master-of-their-craft instruct the rest of us, who don't have a clue.
@daveb9370
@daveb9370 6 жыл бұрын
I admire your attention to detail and your setup/maintenance. Great video. I like learning new things everyday.
@waldtricki
@waldtricki 6 жыл бұрын
You are my hero for today Joe (but only today). I laughed and I learned. What more can you ask from a KZbin video?
@72mgmidget
@72mgmidget 5 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly!!
@marcjohnson7882
@marcjohnson7882 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about the other two people who watched this video but I thought it was pretty good.
@davidgagnon1961
@davidgagnon1961 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this video about a year ago and saved it. Went back today and rewatched it. Thanks for the detail in explaining what and how to tune the blade. Will be doing this when I get my bandsaw up and running.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like I'm heading into a long quarantine period. Maybe time to make another video...
@tonymarrazzo354
@tonymarrazzo354 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched several band saw tune up video's, this is totally my favorite - thank you!
@bbrewe71
@bbrewe71 6 жыл бұрын
You are full of it. It being awesomeness! Great video. You taught me some new tricks. And they really helped out.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I wish I had more time to make vids. I hope folks keep woodworking as a hobby... it's disappearing as a past time.
@bbrewe71
@bbrewe71 6 жыл бұрын
Rockwood Joe go check out Paul Sellers and Izzy Swan
@72mgmidget
@72mgmidget 5 жыл бұрын
William Brewer Izzy does some great work but I also think he’s kind of full of himself. But he also reaches a LOT of people so that’s good for the trade and/or hobby. I will have to check out Paul Sellers
@learnerlearns
@learnerlearns 6 жыл бұрын
This is THE BEST set-up guide I've ever seen! I learned a few things and you made me LAUGH! You summed up my feeling about cheap bandsaws perfectly with "like polishing a turd." BTW: Keep the so-called profanity. FUck censorship. Any parent that imagines certain words can hurt their kids is delusional. That stupid smart-phone, the SUV he drives, violence in media, scholastic indoctrination and media brainwashing are a millions times more damaging than any word, especially words about a nice subject.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! To be honest, I was probably a little more profane than usual, as I did this video in anger after watching the millionth bandsaw video that said "now adjust the fence for drift...". Drift is not addressed in the Delta manual, in fact it tells you to adjust the table (trunnion bolts) so that the table is aligned with.... you guessed it... the guide blocks. Just set everything perpendicular.... that's it! I have no idea where the "drift" concept came from?!
@tomclark6271
@tomclark6271 6 жыл бұрын
Rockwood Joe. Fuckanaey tweety!
@mikeuk1954
@mikeuk1954 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. Got some really good tips from it. I too have a very cheap bandsaw. At the moment it does what I want it to do.
@hesperhurt
@hesperhurt 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍 Language is a wonderful thing... why ignore or ban some of our most descriptive words!? Great setup guide though. Applies just as much to certain expensive saws and ANY saw that's seen a decent amout of work.
@DanielinLaTuna
@DanielinLaTuna 6 жыл бұрын
I try to polish as few turds as possible. Another phrase you might like is he’s slower than pond water. I heard a fellow worker colorfully describing a lay-about employee.
@lesterp2002
@lesterp2002 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the bandsaw in my high school days but never was instructed as to care and maintenance. Thanks for your expertise instruction and suggestions.
@johnkristoff2341
@johnkristoff2341 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent presentation. A logical and well reasoned discourse. Very helpful.
@bykergus
@bykergus 5 жыл бұрын
Just got an OLD band saw. This is going to help me ALLOT !!!!
@leonardpearlman4017
@leonardpearlman4017 4 жыл бұрын
Most old bandsaws are very solidly made, maybe a few big castings... you might get a nice surprise if you do all this, and get a blade that actually does what you want to do.... Like if you're cutting light wood and plastics, a sharp new blade, maybe with skip-teeth, it's like a miracle! It hardly seems to touch the work, the surface is not burnt, it cuts as fast as you can reasonably push it. I think half the misery of bandsaws is the tremendous urge to just use whatever blade happens to be in there when you walk up. This is a real problem in school situations!!!
@tinygriffy
@tinygriffy 5 жыл бұрын
Could totally be a video series .. like "planar blade sharpening fr the anally retentive" or "chainsaw tuning for the anally retentive" .. i think it would run ;)
@johnmcgee7171
@johnmcgee7171 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much. Just bought my 1st bandsaw and this video will be my benchmark for set up. Your explanations and instructions are clear and your examples are spot on.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Enjoy the hobby to its fullest!
@phillipstai7204
@phillipstai7204 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciated this video in a big way. I'm looking to get a used band saw but have been slightly freaking out on the maintenance and getting it to cut perfect. These steps made my brain calm down on this topic so thanks.
@MrArcher0
@MrArcher0 4 жыл бұрын
There is a true love hate relationship going on here with this man and his band saw.
@commissionerjulian8093
@commissionerjulian8093 4 жыл бұрын
That is true for all bandsaw owners who feel they can get more out of their machines Mr. Archer. That's why I limit my Delta 14" bandsaw to Pinewood Derby cars; speed over accuracy is key for a 7 year old. ;D
@johnbhumphrey
@johnbhumphrey 6 жыл бұрын
My upper 14" wheel is warped from the saw falling over or being dropped prior to my ownership. I have to: 1. Build a press to straighten the wheel, 2. Build a new wheel similar to Matthias Wandel, or 3. Replace the wheel. I will accomplish this in that order.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
There are replacement wheels online. Just make sure they ship it better than how Amazon would.
@stevegaris
@stevegaris 5 жыл бұрын
That was helpful. I have not seen anything like this on other channels for setting up and maintaining the blade and the blocks and bearing. Thanks for this. Now I have to get back out in the garage and check my bandsaw!
@danceswithaardvarks3284
@danceswithaardvarks3284 4 жыл бұрын
I have followed a few guides on setting up my bandsaw and nothing has given me results that really satisfy me. I spent 12 months tweaking my table shiddy (mid-range) table saw before getting the desired level of precision to satisfy my OCD. Your anally retentive method gives me confidence to return to my bandsaw, which had been relegated as a dust collecting tool store. Keep up the good work.
@arose460
@arose460 6 жыл бұрын
For the love of my ocd please do a table saw tune up vid
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm thinking of doing one for my portable Dewalt. Thanks.
@tapanlahiri2663
@tapanlahiri2663 6 жыл бұрын
arose460
@charlest3403
@charlest3403 6 жыл бұрын
arose460 .....cdo is the alphabetically correct order
@rootvalue
@rootvalue 6 жыл бұрын
I would pay for this
@aaronismail4410
@aaronismail4410 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Thanks in advance!
@paulangeli9710
@paulangeli9710 6 жыл бұрын
My delta 14" band saw has bearings instead of the graphite block. It looks like your version would be superior to bearings. I will have to spend more time fine tuning. Thanks for posting. New subscriber.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, the blocks actually support better than bearings, which only contact at a single (almost infinitely small) point. The blocks also generally keep the blade cleaner too, scraping off resin. They used to be standard equipment on all Delta's - even back to the 80s.
@dasstackenblochen9250
@dasstackenblochen9250 6 жыл бұрын
On my (very old) band saw all guides are plain bearings (soft steel sleeve on hardened bearing steel shaft and hardened bearing steel in a brass cylinder for thrust). They work well but *only* with very fluid grease. Standard workshop grease is too un-fluid for these. Once I fixed that they work kinda well, at least after a few hours of use (blade wears into the guide sleeves).
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
I've also used brass (which causes the blade to heat up), and different hard woods (which wear faster). The setup shown is to get maximum accuracy for jointing etc. I want to get a second cheap band saw for roughing and cutting expanded foam that I don't get too uptight about. I use re-claimed antique wood most of the time, and constantly hit nails etc. So, no more expensive blades for me.
@tristanpatterson3843
@tristanpatterson3843 6 жыл бұрын
Mate those blocks are a revelation! where can I get some? You are the 'This Old Tony' of woodworking. You got a sub from me.
@bobvogel5398
@bobvogel5398 6 жыл бұрын
google "cool blocks"
@larry9441
@larry9441 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best setup videos out there. Good work and thanks.
@woodstoney
@woodstoney 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. This video and the one from Alex Snodgrass are the gold standard videos for proper bandsaw setup and operation.
@randyc5650
@randyc5650 5 жыл бұрын
I hung a 2' high x 5' wide mirror in my dining room and called my wife in to see. She instantly told me it was low on the right. I informed her that she was mistaken because I used my new laser level on it. She persisted so I got it back out and lined it up. It was low on the right half the thickness of the laser line (about 1/32"). I trashed the level and now use her on important (things that she can see) things.
@melmyers4329
@melmyers4329 5 жыл бұрын
Besides, if she ain't happy; ain't nobody happy.
@KRColson
@KRColson 5 жыл бұрын
Randy, I do believe you an I are married to the same person! At least they must be related somehow. I swear she can notice one thousands of an inch variance!!
@ron827
@ron827 5 жыл бұрын
My wife is insistent the Christmas tree is perfectly centered in front of the picture window. I eyeball the best I can and then call in the inspector. It take some effort to slide it on the carpet so I need to grunt a little when I move it. Yep, all I do now is grasp the stand and just grunt without actually moving it which satisfies her OCD. "Women! You can't live with them, pass the beer nuts."
@SW-zu7ve
@SW-zu7ve 5 жыл бұрын
@@melmyers4329 That is when you replace the needy psycho that only thinks of herself.
@c50ge
@c50ge 5 жыл бұрын
Run the same level on the wall where it meets the ceiling and where it meets the floor. I would bet that would also be off giving the appearance that your mirror was off. I agree she has a keen eye.
@iancrossley6637
@iancrossley6637 6 жыл бұрын
That blade flutter can be the result of a blade that wasn't welded in alignment.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth! I've seen horrible welds where the blade edges were at least 3 degrees off on fancy "swedish imported" stuff that sells for over $40. Huge lumps etc. That is why my trusty die grinder (or dremel) saves the day. Nothing worse than getting something in the mail - that you want to use right away, and it sucks out of the box. Cheers!
@tolgaturgal
@tolgaturgal 5 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best band saw tips video i have ever seen. Thanks for all the tips!
@rickmccaskill7888
@rickmccaskill7888 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best video bandsaw set I have seen. Going to use it to set up both of my bandsaws tomorrow using it. Thanks
@mikejones2200
@mikejones2200 6 жыл бұрын
IMO the "drift" is from pushing the saw to cut faster than the blade can cut the work. I've never had much problem with that when the blade is sharp and everything is square with the table. A little common sense and patience goes a long way. 67yo newly retired male, 45 mi NE of Denver. 14" Taiwan Delta clone, 20" Grizzly. Building a 35 x 70 shop now. Great Video, Subscribing now.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly... the original Delta's owner's manual says the same thing... ;) It's not freakin' rocket science!
@ionstorm66
@ionstorm66 6 жыл бұрын
Yep drift is to much force on too small a blade. If you're resawing enough that you need to speed though it, get a wider blade and call it day.
@joannmiller8301
@joannmiller8301 5 жыл бұрын
IMO it's the alignment of the gullet of the blade at the center of the wheel that plays the biggest role in "blade drift". If the blade tracking is off it causes the blade to angle away from perpendicular to the table and causes the wood to drift right or left. It causes wearing of the guide blocks, heating of the blade with resultant dulling etc. The whole idea of the adjustability of the saw is meant to make the blade track perfectly square and perpendicular relative to the work piece. When that happens, there is no drift. Make sense??
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 5 жыл бұрын
Drift is also a consequence of new woodworkers making the mistake of trying to 'push' the blade back on line, instead of steering it, when working freehand. Especially when thing's aren't lined up well, and it looks like you're going straight but the cut isn't. BTW,, if you've never seen a high-speed camera video of a blade that's pushed too hard, look for one. It's amazing the things don't break more often, all the contortions they go through.
@SW-zu7ve
@SW-zu7ve 5 жыл бұрын
"I've never had much problem with that when the blade is sharp and everything is square with the table." You say drift is from pushing the work to fast. Then talk about set up. Which when wrong causes drift. I'm not getting the point you are trying to make? Yes pushing to fast causes drift. Well so does a saw that isn't set up correctly! Which is the point of this video.
@theQuantumPenguin
@theQuantumPenguin 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the size and pitch of the blade you used in this video. Maybe you could add those details to your description above ^^^^. You did a fairly tall resaw with what looked like 1/4" or 1/2" blade and got a good result. I've witnessed several, so called, experts say this shouldn't be possible or at the very least highly discourage the practice. The wealth of detail in your video has shown that anally retentive tuning has it's rewards. Your experience with silicon steel blades was very valuable to me but I expect that Scuff Phlukups would have an issue with your comments. Too bad for him. Great job!!
@markdaehlin351
@markdaehlin351 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Very informative. I'm using an old 14" Delta and tuning it has been a bit of a challenge; I'm learning. Watching your video has compelled me to up my game to a higher level. You're the man, Rockwood Joe.
@lepompier132
@lepompier132 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. You showed stuff that we don't see when setting up a brand new bandsaw or after changing the blade. Really nice!
@k9k936
@k9k936 6 жыл бұрын
This video calms me. Thumbs up.
@thomasgibbons353
@thomasgibbons353 4 жыл бұрын
Well yah, after watching the 15:18 I'm definitely more intelligent than I was. Thanks to you.
@Dave51262
@Dave51262 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best videos on bandsaw tuneup that I have seen. Great stuff! Thanks!
@gunsmithfiamma4788
@gunsmithfiamma4788 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Brilliant!! Thank you for sharing this precious knowledge.
@luckydubeinrc5165
@luckydubeinrc5165 4 жыл бұрын
Main cause of blade Drift. Blunt blade , causing operator to push work piece harder than necessary. Wheels (bearings or wheel bend) Wheels not balanced causes hammering (moving of saw blade forward and backwards, 5 gram at 5k rpm = 50 kg of swing force !) end result - bearings bust ! blade drift ,forward backward (incorrect butt weld) Blade over tightened at some stage (cause ,out of arc when lay on flat surface ) tooth setting not correct (more on one side than other (saw runs to one or other side, cutting into or out of work.) side grinding is never necessary, but tooth setting is, and no .1 mm is not accurate. too much set on teeth wide groove blade wobbles around . too little , blade burning (especially on wet wood) hard wood small tooth set , softwood can be more tooth set especially pines... (the gummy stuff...) If you are going to grind the the blade back side for severe cases ( use a fixed grinder that is screw adjustable) do not hol by hand... other than that... cant say anything :) Dang i feel old 30 years ago ran the saw shop 24/7 for a very big company, from 20 gauge guillet bandsaw double cuts to Weinig Frame saws, Sherman 40 blader double arbour.. Now those were the days .. Peace out.
@markhamze154
@markhamze154 4 жыл бұрын
I have a band saw and i haven't used it in ten years! The guy i bought it from sold it to me for $100 as he didn't use it for more then 10 years!
@jeffj2495
@jeffj2495 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't use my bandsaw much either. But when I need it, the bandsaw is just invaluable.
@Greghc48
@Greghc48 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction. Never have done any of these tune ups for my saw. Will do them this week. Thank you......
@williammarbaker4935
@williammarbaker4935 5 жыл бұрын
Quite helpful, especially on the carbon block adjustment and the bearing wheel. Thank you.
@timcoffey4484
@timcoffey4484 6 жыл бұрын
Putting enough tension on blade is essential also.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Correct! I just use the stock spring and guide on the back. Less is better of course, as you don't want to start compressing the tires or abusing the bearings. Let the guides do all the work.
@cbelobrajdic
@cbelobrajdic 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Lots of great tips as I recently acquired my saw and found the setup to be quite a tail-chaser! However, tension is my question. I have a Craftsman 14" bandsaw who's manual barely mentions tension. There's a 1/2" plastic block below the tension spring that I guess is supposed to be the indicator, but is it the top edge or the bottom? Middle? Who knows? Anyway, thank you for the excellent video!
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 6 жыл бұрын
There are no markings for 1/4, 1/2, 3/8 etc.? Perhaps there was a sticker that fell off. You might try a google image search for that saw. I would just adjust tension until the flutter disappears, or as low as possible. I think it is preferable to reduce deforming the rubber tires as much as possible. Cheers!
@cbelobrajdic
@cbelobrajdic 6 жыл бұрын
Rockwood Joe Oh! No, there are marks and widths cast into the aluminum adjustment assembly, but no real mention on how to use it. I just figured there would have been a little more info in the manual, but, no. You answered my question about how less (tension) is more, so I'll run with that. I recently found, by accident, how pretty much every adjustment tends to loosen up sooner or later while ripping 25-1"x4"x8', but now your video will help me set things up correctly from the beginning instead of trying to fix things during...
@bstevermer9293
@bstevermer9293 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good info, I’m a metal man. But subscribed .
@stevea3472
@stevea3472 Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, I find myself going back to this video again and again. Thanks for posting from down the road in Crawford
@colinharvey126
@colinharvey126 4 жыл бұрын
As a diesel mechanic incharge of a woodwork shop in a mens shed I find these video's very useful as no one will maintain the machines. Thank you.
@tonto7752
@tonto7752 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on vid dude ..👍👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘
@hermanwulf6677
@hermanwulf6677 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I watched it. I've been in business for over 50 years, owned several bandsaws, and I've learned something. Thanks One question, where, the hell, were you 50 years ago? You could have saved me a lot of time and trouble.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 4 жыл бұрын
I was still an accident waiting to happen....
@dallassysv
@dallassysv 4 жыл бұрын
My wife bought me a bandsaw 8 years ago. I hardly ever used it as it would screech, and make horrible noises, and mostly break blades. It was setup from manufacturer, so I "assumed" that was the way it was. I started watching your video and noticed your band saw makes almost no sound. then you got to the thrust bearing . on my saw, the bearing was set to roll, (outer casing of bearing) rolling with the flat side of blade. I paused the video went out and adjusted the bearing behind the blade as you showed, both on top and bottom . I adjusted everything as you did, now my saw makes little to no sound, and I happily cut a 30 degree angle on some scrap wood, and it tracked perfectly. Thank you, for the explination and the step by step :)
@davidanthonyguy167
@davidanthonyguy167 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, all your tips are valid information, as a cabinetmaker I'm always interested in other cabinetmakers experience in tools and their proper functions, thanks, keep up the good work, very interesting
@melgross
@melgross 6 жыл бұрын
There’s another guy that says that drift is a myth. It isn’t a myth, but the cause can be eliminated. One major cause of drift is when the blade wears more on one side than the other. That causes it to prefer cutting on the less worn side, causing drift. In woodworking, one reason for one side wearing more quickly is the cutting of veneer. The veneer side of the cut has less pressure than the thick side, causing uneven wear. Over time, that causes a slight preference towards the veneer side. One way to eliminate that is, if your saw permits it, to move the fence from one side to the other, causing even wear over time. This is a very old technique.
@edwinfell7177
@edwinfell7177 5 жыл бұрын
Mel Gross that too makes sense. Thanks
@lakestatebullies7391
@lakestatebullies7391 4 жыл бұрын
That nail in the teak was bugging the heck outta me. Remove the table to adjust the bottom.
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 4 жыл бұрын
I tried that a few times, but the cumbersome fence rails and Delta's super skinny slot convinced me that my fingers were expendable. I love old wood with nails!
@bickleigh2829
@bickleigh2829 5 жыл бұрын
|Randomly came upon this video.... Watched it through.... just want to say thank you... I wish there were more videos like this.... This is what KZbin is made for. It is all well and good with the plethora of videos on how to use this machine or do this with wood or metal or how to make this, But when it comes to tuning a piece of woodworking or metal working gear, there seem to be precious few videos available. Your detailed explanations and guided instructions are a breath of fresh air and a joy to watch. Keep up the good work and thank you once again.
@terryhanson1954
@terryhanson1954 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad i watched this. I knew most of the steps but it was nice to watch the fine tuning. I tried to find a video on making thin cuts for inlay without loosing a lot of material with the kerf of a thicker blade.
@res1492
@res1492 6 жыл бұрын
I tried this but every time i get to the die grinder part it grinds off all the teeth on my blade, WTF am i doing wrong
@PeterPasieka
@PeterPasieka 5 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂
@mikeann333
@mikeann333 5 жыл бұрын
very funny
@72mgmidget
@72mgmidget 5 жыл бұрын
res1492 You’re holding the wrong end of the die grinder! Shish! This isn’t Science Rocket!
@1Igster1
@1Igster1 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't the fluttering caused by the blade being under-tensioned?
@barrymeyers5066
@barrymeyers5066 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@damienkurrin
@damienkurrin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've seen several videos about setting up a bandsaw, and yours address several things that none of the others did.
@KRColson
@KRColson 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Joe! It was a pleasure watching and very informative.
@alfredosalari1704
@alfredosalari1704 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent to see that Stodoys has new what helped me save some money and energy to build it.
@Ed19601
@Ed19601 5 жыл бұрын
I saw "for the anally retentive" so I clicked
@RockwoodJoe
@RockwoodJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Damn right!
@javashak
@javashak 6 жыл бұрын
Down to earth and very informative - very good and very enjoyable to watch. Probably helps that I have a similar outlook on things. I feel happier now about checking out and tuning my cheap and possibly nasty bandsaw which has been sitting neglected in the attic. Thanks for the post.
@jimh6780
@jimh6780 5 жыл бұрын
Spent the afternoon making a jig to saw logs on my band saw ... good video, I'm a tuner too, a musician, and can't stand to be off pitch. I've seen Carter's band saw guy walk through tuning up a band saw twice, but putting the cool blocks up to the blade and letting it ride there... that was all you, and a revelation. I have a shop and two band saws, I enjoyed your once over on the saw.. Keep on keeping on.
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