How 32-bit Float Recording Works on the Wireless PRO

[@orlandoreina1983]

What a soothing voice... I could listen to you all day long!

[@AuthenTech]

So cool! It's like shooting "RAW video" but for audio

[@rodemic]

They're hard to compare but in many ways that's a helpful comparison @AuthenTech! We're so excited to see what solo creators will be able to do with this that they haven't been able to do before.

[@Citizen_0_5]

This is amazing. I had already commited myself to picking these mics up, but I didn't understand the float idea at all. Now I NEED these

[@focuspulling]

Great explanation! Worth reminding though, that the included Lavalier II has a fairly typical SPL limit: you'll still get clipping, as a hardware limitation before the signal even gets to 32-bit audio processing, when your talent yells or sings very loudly. So, 32-bit float never guarantees "no clipping." It just makes it much more likely to avoid.

[@Marlonorellana]

Which lavs would you suggest? Because that’s why I’m hesitant on getting these

[@rodemic]

The Lavalier II has a SPL of around 120db, which is about as loud as a police siren, helicopter or jackhammer. Of course, you can distort sound far below its SPL by, for example pressing a microphone right against your mouth as it would become distorted by the breath coming out of your mouth (similar to how you can distort a mic by just blowing into it). So for most applications that don't involve power tools or warfare, we think it's pretty unlikely to clip your recordings using this setup.

[@focuspulling]

​@@rodemic I experienced two persistent occasions of clipping using a Rode Lavalier (RodeLink legacy microphone) with a 32-bit float recorder. Once it was concealed beneath an opera singer's blouse, and moderately loud transients of her singing clipped (waveform inspection confirmed this). Another time, concealed inside a male poetry reciter's shirt, moderate shouting transients also clipped. There is inconsistent measurement criteria between these mics: your Lavalier II actually hits a ceiling of 106dB at 1% THD, then 120dB at 10% THD; while the RodeLink lav only specifies 110dB at 1% THD - suggesting the predecessor has more headroom actually. I think that the existence of several competing niche models of low-sensitivity lavaliers by other manufacturers (e.g., a Countryman B3 variant, and the DPL 4061/6061) commonly bought for theatrical and similar high-amplitude productions, shows that consumers need to be prepared for further customization depending on use case exceptions that actually aren't rare. In all, high/medium/low sensitivity relative to noise floor is a compromising balance, and it's likely that you chose the perfect middle ground for most use cases - but, clipping will still happen to most users.

[@focuspulling]

@@Marlonorellana The two most widespread and acclaimed lower-sensitivity/high-SPL-limit lavalier microphones are the DPA 4061/6061, and the Countryman B3 variant designated as low-sensivity. These are niche products compared to the general purpose Rode Lavalier II which strikes a good balance between noise floor and headroom, which is a physical compromise on the analog input side that 32-bit float headroom actually cannot help downstream.

[@MayerAd]

@@focuspulling sort of flipped yourself here -- you said both that it makes it much more likely to avoid and that clipping will happen to most users...

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Rode has taken it to the next level. I look forward to getting the Wireless Pro as soon as possible.

[@AnnexF]

Rode, you are the best! There's Rode, then there's everyone else.

[@joashstilltheman7066]

She says Rode so nicely. Must be the 32 bit float

[@Youthman]

I appreciate the video because I purchased the Wireless Pro thinking the 32-bit float and gain assist could be used when recording directly to the camera. I guess it’s still good to have it as a backup, just a few extra steps in the edit process to take advantage of it.

[@obarovft314]

how do you determine the frame rate of the 32 bit float file if your are just recording audio internally?

[@REVOLTDJ]

This feature is such a "Gain" changer 😂

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

lolz!

[@brian.rafferty]

Never thought I’d be this excited for a lav mic

[@europeanambience]

That looks very interesting for recording loud car audio. I´ve tried it with the Wireless go II but always got problems with clipping. 32 bit float really helps with this

[@rodemic]

Absolutely @europeanambience. Vroom! 🏎️🏁

[@thekevinhu]

Thank you Rode and Heen. I am now more excited and educated regarding the product... and also feel like I just listened to a superb mindfulness and meditation session. 😌

[@rodemic]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@thomassensor9545]

So finally we don't need to suffer through clipping audio from all the youtubers, using the low-dynamic range Wireless GOs? ;) I actually sold my Wireless Go pair for this exact reason - there was no way to find a fitting gain... the audio was just always clipping... I really look forward to give those Wireless PRO a chance!

[@rodemic]

Thanks for giving us a chance Thomas! We hope you'll love what we're bringing to the table with the Wireless PRO.

[@tietscho]

This Rode Lab Style reminds me of the Soviets in the Videogame Command and Conquer Red Alert 2

[@matthew.datcher]

I am loving this arms race between Rode and Deity.

[@rodemic]

🏎️🏁

[@PeakPerformanceReviews]

Impressive! Waiting to see what DJI do also soon but very impressed. Current RODE wireless 2 user at the moment 🙌👍 gone from 1 to the 2 and been much more impressed with the 2, can’t wait to see and hear more on this ❤️

[@aaronshortmusic]

I LOVE this feature on my Tascam X8 and I’m glad my Wireless Pro will have it too. It’s a true game changer.

[@Rwdphotos]

Tascam has 32bit product coming out pretty soon too, just not wireless

[@aaronshortmusic]

@@Rwdphotos Interesting. How will it differ to their X8?

[@Flashback_Jack]

I ordered the Zoom H6 from Amazon and started the return process even before I received the thing once I found out 32bit float existed, so I ended up with the Tascam X8.

[@aaronshortmusic]

@@Flashback_Jack Isn’t it amazing? I use it all the time for my KZbin channel now.

[@davetinoco]

I noticed even with the Wireless Go II this option now appears. Does it work for that model too?

[@rodemic]

Good question! And no, this has actually always been an option for the Wireless GO II - but on the Wireless GO II it purely serves be consistent with your true 32-bit files (like those recorded onboard the Wireless PRO) when brought into your editor.

[@talktalk4503]

Great product. When will it be available?

[@EricB03]

Pre orders sold out at b&h. Ships 8/28

[@rodemic]

Late August!

[@EricB03]

@@rodemic i already told them 🤣. A little late there.

[@talktalk4503]

@@EricB03 yes indeed. Dammit Rode 🤣

[@artisticcompose]

Not sure if I understood, can I simultaneously record the 32 Bit Float internally to the receiver and also connect it to the camera for a “normal recording audio track? Or do I have to choose between connecting it to the camera or recording internally?

[@Androide323]

You can record directly into the camera without 32 bit float while the transmitter records in its internal memory at the same time if you want to use it later as well

[@rodemic]

You can record in 32-bit float and record using your camera at the same time, yes. You don't have to choose one or the other.

[@MonsoonSZN-520]

I've been looking at budget options but the more research I do the more I realize I should just get the wireless pro and have no worries.

[@VulgarMenace96]

Wait so if I have the receiver plugged into my camera, is my footage going to have 32 bit float? Or is 32 bit float only recorded on board to each transmitter and has to be synced later?

[@DaniloZimatore]

La seconda che hai scritto

[@olgadekell]

Sounds great, added it to my shopping list 😁!

[@AnilKumar-zo2eu]

Thank you so much mam for your packaged information.

[@DanielEarl]

Would have been helpful for new people if you played the audio clip examples. :)

[@MaxoticsTV]

It's not a nice word what kind of claims they're making here.

[@rodemic]

Stay tuned!

[@djxcel23]

It basically like clipping your highlights when taking pictures with your camera. You can bring back everything in post.

[@rodemic]

Absolutely. It's a gamechanger.

[@chrisnegrowski]

will the new mics have an option to turn off the lights while recording or nah? thanks for answering rode like your products

[@rodemic]

Hey Chris! On the Wireless PRO, you can adjust the transmitter’s LED brightness if you want a more discreet aesthetic. With your transmitter(s) connected to a phone or computer running RØDE Central, click the ‘LEDs’ toggle to switch between ‘Bright’ and ‘Dim’. Glad we could include suggestions like this in the product.

[@DanielDaveta]

So does that mean I can by a TX mic only and be able to use it as a wireless recorder?

[@uldmedia]

I don't think you can buy a single transmitter - but as far as I understood you can use the transmitters as standalone recorders, without need to pair it to the receiver.

[@DanielDaveta]

@@uldmedia thanks. Yes I hope they sell it as a standalone recorder. Beats the Tascam DR10L

[@felipeandjess]

When using each reciever without the transmitter do the recorders record stereo? When using receiver without other receiver as a body pack does the recorder record stereo?

[@rodemic]

The transmitter's onboard recording is mono, but the receiver that connects to your recording device has the capability to record in stereo.

[@cvladmanea]

Stepped up the game again !

[@TomTuT]

Great. Thank you!

[@RexxReviews]

RODE Wireless GO 2 can also export in 32 bit float.

[@rodemic]

They can export your audio as a 32-bit wav file, but this is a bit different to a file which is actually recorded in "32-bit float". A file recorded in 32-bit float will allow you to normalise your audio to avoid clipping, and other benefits, whereas a file which is recorded in 24-bit audio and exported in 32-bit will not.

[@sytesmedia504]

would I need sound recorder for my red Komodo if i have the new rode pro

[@rodemic]

No- you can just plug this device into the 3.5mm port on the camera.

[@sytesmedia504]

@@rodemic by plugging into 3.5mm port of the camera will I still get the 32 bit float recording

[@ErikHill1]

are the mics dynamic or condenser mics on the go pro?

[@rodemic]

The Wireless PRO transmitter has an onboard omnidirectional condenser microphone

[@MayerAd]

Rode, what are the powering options for other lavaliers? Does this allow for a 5V output for DPA mics?

[@AbeTheRock]

So if I have a recorder that records 32bit float and plug the receiver from the wireless GO Pro to record the two channels it would actually be reduced to the 24bit being transmitted? The 32bit from the transmitters wouldn’t flow through to the recorder?

[@rodemic]

That's a good question @AbeTheRock! If you have a 32-bit float recorder, then by definition, your recordings would be in 32-bit float. However, if you're asking whether the superior dynamic range that 32-bit float recordings have would get passed to your recorder, the answer is no. Let us know if you've got any more questions about the Wireless PRO 😊

[@ArtyomPersidskyTube]

can anybody tell me why on-board audio is so low volume level?

[@rodemic]

If you're using a Wireless PRO's onboard recording functionality and the audio level is low, we'd simply suggest following the instructions in the User Guide: rode.com/en/user-guides/wireless-pro#:~:text=of%20recordings%20simultaneously.-,How%20to%20Adjust%20or%20Normalise%2032%2Dbit%20Float%20Files,-Normalising%20audio%20is

[@wpociej]

There is the same option, 32 bit float recording, on the Wireless Go II. Is it different somehow?

[@rodemic]

32-bit float recording isn't a feature on the GO II, but audio can be *exported* from the transmitters in 32 bit. Of course, simply exporting 24 bit audio in a 32-bit format doesn't give you the extra dynamic range you would recieve if the file was actually recorded in 32-bit float. The reason you're able to export 24-bit audio in 32-bit float is because some users might want all the files for a project to be in the same format, or maybe there are some audio effects that could work better on 32-bit files than they would on 24-bit files. So in summary, although you can export your Wireless GO II recordings in 32-bit, this is a bit different than audio files which are natively recorded in 32-bit float.

[@unquestionabletv]

Isn’t there an auto gain for using direct audio to livestream without having to use the on board recording and get this same benefit?

[@rodemic]

There are many "auto gain" settings on different products and hardware- this device even features a "GainAssist" mode when outputting to an external device like a mixer or camera. 32-bit float audio is helpful in postproduction and allows you to capture a lossless audio file you are free to edit however you'd like.

[@JLBA14]

Can you trigger “record” on the transmitters from the receiver?

[@brown2840]

yep! It's a mode you turn on in the app :)

[@BlaqViper]

Would it be a fair analogy to say 32bit Float is to audio as HDR is to video?

[@rodemic]

Hey there BlaqViper! We actually made a whole video addressing this question here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmbJq5Vro89niaM

[@BlaqViper]

@@rodemic Ahhhhh, shooting RAW is the better analogy. Got it…and very cool!…🤗

[@ErikOlsen1]

Can you record onto the camera AND onto the receiver at the same time, so that the 32 bit float is backup?

[@anthonyjrivers]

Yes

[@jbsworkshop]

Just need to make it possible to download audio straight to Apple iPad as I do all my editing on an iPad Pro. As soon as that’s a available I will buy the pro system,hopefully just a firmware update

[@rodemic]

Hey there, while it isn't possible at the moment to do this, we are planning to allow users to do this on all devices that use USB-C, but this update won't bring this feature to devices with a lightning port. However, currently, most of our users who do editing on iPads like yourself record their audio directly to their iPad by plugging the reciever into their iPad, and recording their audio recordings or video recordings directly on their device.

[@jbsworkshop]

@@rodemic thank you for the tip. I will only need it for my iPad not I phone,I will await news on the update & then purchase the pro system as the sound quality sounds better than others on the market.

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

Can I buy from Amazon UK 🇬🇧?

[@rodemic]

You can have a look for yourself, but if it's not available on Amazon, you can also use this link: brandstore.rode.com/products/wireless-pro

[@keller2279]

Rode- I noticed the receiver has only one output. When running both transmitters, can I separate the channels to two XLRs? I use XLR cameras and need to be able to separate the channels. If this is possible, what cable do I need to buy? I know they make 3.5mm to 2-XLR splitter cables, but I want to get the right kind to ensure the channels are properly split. Thanks!

[@rodemic]

You'll need an SC11 to split the signal and 2x VXLR Pros.

[@danielgray1874]

Someone help! Am I still getting a 32 bit recording if I use a lav mic? That would mean my 32 bit float would come from a transmitter ths is being intentionally hidden, for example in a pocket or a belt...doesnt that defeat the purpose of having the 32 bit float recording of it has to come from a hidden transmitter? What if you're using a lav and NOT sending signal to the camera? Someone help me out!!

[@DarrellB-g8z]

Is there an estimated release date yet?

[@rodemic]

Late August!

[@brown2840]

Do all of the gain modes/settings only affect the RX end going into the camera, or can they alter the 32bit recordings on the TX end? I am finding that no matter what gain adjustment I make the 32bit recordings do not change. Is this normal?

[@rodemic]

Hey there, the gain modes just affect the output from the reciever, but if you want to change the loudness of the 32-bit float recordings on the device you can do this losslessly from RØDE Central, or from the editing software of your choice. Read more about this in the Wireless PRO user guide here: rode.com/en/user-guides/wireless-pro

[@brown2840]

@@rodemic thanks! So by adjusting the loudness via rode central, I’m assuming this is an export option? Otherwise I can just use the 32 bit recordings as is and adjust loudness in my edit software, and that would be the same as if it was done in the rode app?

[@RichardBrownNZ]

Aww, what happened to the blooper segment?

[@rodemic]

👀

[@TooMuch_TV]

Price point ? Release date?

[@rodemic]

MSRP $399USD, late August!

[@TooMuch_TV]

@@rodemic thank you.

[@soundxajay]

Great product ❤ cool 😎

[@DjBydLo]

Well, is not true that you can boost the volume as much as you need and it will remain low, the digital noise might remain low but microphone noise (the problematic one) will not, in even in 24bits digital noise is low enough to not be too much of a problem. I guess anyway that getting rid of the preamp volume issue is very important advance.

[@JJSCTech]

Oh if it was that easy. An important fact is that your mic must be able to handle a wide dynamic range as well. If not, you can still have distortion with 32bit float.

[@rodemic]

Hey there. Depends what you mean by "that easy". The RØDE Lavalier II, which ships with the Wireless PRO, and also the capsule on the Wireless PRO, have a maximum loudness or max SPL of around 120 decibels. That means if for the mic on its own to distort your sound, you would have to be recording something about as loud as a jet engine taking off, or a gunshot.

[@JJSCTech]

@@rodemic what’s the frequency response of the lavs?

[@dannyelfilms]

wow that is a game changer, I have also been curious to know if the actual mics can handle the range too, thanks for letting us know they can. I'm so definitely getting these mics@@rodemic

[@ONLYFEJMZZZ]

I think i have to debunk this, i just got them, i got the clipping from a regular " midrange" loud speaking ( like a moment when something funny is happening and people are laughing loudly. How is that possible? It was the sound from the tx, 32 bit float. With the gain assist on auto. When i put the sound into the daw, i cant pull down the peaks, it looks like the first one in this video example u made.@@rodemic

[@leeaxon01]

It's disappointing the video didn't demonstrate the audio SOUND when you've clearly went to the effort of 'setting up' the scene of the actor and also you've displayed the wave form. Otherwise thanks for this video. Lee

[@rodemic]

Hey there- it sounds like you're having a really frustrating experience with your RØDECaster Pro II and its software. Thankfully, our service team is here to help. Just contact them at rode.com/en/support/contact and give them all the details about your setup and problem, so they can quickly find a solution for you.

[@jackedkerouac4414]

I don't even have a use for this and still want one.

[@pshimmons]

would have been nice to actually HEAR the audio demos

[@rodemic]

Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4PGlWN7ha6Vqrc

[@pshimmons]

@@rodemic thank you!

[@ongybaolapuong9928]

Được đới ❤

[@YoungBlaze]

Give it to me now or I might just have to wait till DJI come out and steal this idea and get their version

[@Joshua_S]

You do know that 32bit float is existing a view years now and that there were other wireless audio systems with this type of recording on the market before this Rode product. Right?

[@uldmedia]

@@Joshua_S What other wireless audio systems with 32 bit float recording do you mean? I do not know any.

[@TinaKadoic]

tentacle, for one

[@uldmedia]

@@TinaKadoic The tentacle track-e is a very nice 32 bit float mini-recorder with in build timecode but not part of a wireless audio solution. The track-e don't deliver audio to the sync modules and you can only monitoring audio over a smartphone app and only from one track-e at the same time. In addition, for legal reasons, monitoring audio during recording only works in Europe and not the U.S. So tentacle track-e and rode wireless pro are both great products but optimized for different use cases. Just hope that the 32-bit audio quality of the wireless pro is good despite the extremely low price. But if so and the device works reliably, the wireless pro is mine. ;)

[@We-Think-together]

Hahaha it’s true, the giants make new tech and the others copy paste it in their devices…

[@KallusGarnet]

Whats the name of this woman, she is a very good presenter.

[@rodemic]

This is Heen!

[@PiecesofVinyl]

JANUARY 2024 - - just to clarify - there are 100's of influencers out there reviewing their FREE ones sent by Rode - us PAYING CUSTOMERS - will need to WAIT until JANUARY 2024 to get one - all the reviews out there - and THAT is conveniently left out. RODE needs to be better with PAYING CUSTOMERS.

[@rodemic]

Hey there, we're sorry to hear that you have had to wait longer than expected for your Wireless PRO. We are working as hard as possible to get units into the hands of customers as soon as possible and are by no means giving preference to creators for reviews - customers are always our first priority. We are shipping units worldwide every day, so please hang in there, you should get yours soon!

[@tdata545]

ARE YOU GUYS REALLY THOUGH? SINCE TASCAM and ZOOM have had MULTIPLE PRODUCTS that feature 32 Bit Float recording, along with Bheringer x-air line. Zoom especially with their F2, f6, and H8 off the top of my head. Tascam Portacapture X8 (maybe the x4) and their answer to the Zoom F2, also come to mind; as to having preceeded the Wireless Pro. Since the reality is, 32-Bit is ONLY AVAILABLE via onboard recording to the 32GB/transmitter (maybe the receiver as well). Can't make BS claims when seemingly this is your first product to feature this tech.

[@TechTokOffical]

How you gonna compare 2 audio samples and never actually play anything. So u SAY these mics do this...and for $350 u could actually SHOW us 32 bit float in action

[@rodemic]

Hey there @trpremote - thanks for the feedback about recordings and testing. The Wireless PRO has been out since August, and there are many reviews of the unit that include audio recordings/tests with the device. So we'd recommend you check those out if you'd like to know how the mic sounds.

[@WillieShawFilms]

I feel like I got played on the rode wireless go ii not being 32-bit float, but I'm excited about this product. Maybe send it to a small creator who shoots weddings and tons of talking heads to test and give his feedback 🙌🏾 @WillieShawJR

[@jamesrules1234567899]

no your not getting one free, relax.

[@WillieShawFilms]

When my account grows and I'm doing the review for the Dji Wireless Pro ii that I got for free I'm going to come back to this comment and link my video @@jamesrules1234567899 ✌🏾