ROG Maximus Z690 Extreme Repair - How useful is Memory Overclocking?

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@CaptainXanax
@CaptainXanax Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, I'm a watchmaker and took a job for an Aerospace company working on tiny components. As part of my training they sent me to micro soldering school for a few IPC certifications. The only experience I had was watching your videos and the instructor was kinda shocked how good my work was. I really enjoyed it and am going to put together a soldering bench in my workshop. Just wanted to say thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
@alexatron6057
@alexatron6057 Жыл бұрын
That is one golden comment! Better than factory...look at this
@Nevakonaza.
@Nevakonaza. Жыл бұрын
How people manage to inflict this amount of damage to a board is beyond me :D Excellent repair as usual :)
@nicksdinosforkids6001
@nicksdinosforkids6001 Жыл бұрын
They used a hammer to wedge the board into the case is my only guess or had a tug of war with their dog.
@pietrmuffei8874
@pietrmuffei8874 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a pre-installed stand-off that was not checked before mounting the board. Basically the pin was putting pressure one point at the board which might have cracked the traces
@SaccoBelmonte
@SaccoBelmonte Жыл бұрын
By installing the board by sliding it in place without removing the AIO. Happened to me once, glad I didn't break anything.
@parochial2356
@parochial2356 Жыл бұрын
That person needs to hire someone to do any more physical work on a PC. Does his PC toolkit include a claw hammer?
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 Жыл бұрын
it's very easy.
@quonslecn7755
@quonslecn7755 Жыл бұрын
When the motherboard mounting holes are chopped up to hell, you know the person doesn't know what they are doing.
@peteb5343
@peteb5343 Жыл бұрын
How much pressure did they use .. I cringed at them poor holes…
@Thatlocomango_392
@Thatlocomango_392 Жыл бұрын
i was gonna say the same thing
@The_Ballo
@The_Ballo Жыл бұрын
When asked how he assembled PCs he replied UNGA BUNGA
@seephor
@seephor Жыл бұрын
bull in a china shop. some people shouldn't be touching electronics
@susperia1188
@susperia1188 Жыл бұрын
mabye he used an impact drill🤣
@samcorbin6744
@samcorbin6744 Жыл бұрын
Most people don't realize how hard it is to repair small traces. Well done as always!
@pickafingname
@pickafingname Жыл бұрын
I've never seen damage caused like that before. How you kept a straight face is commendable.
@m.g.debruin8294
@m.g.debruin8294 8 ай бұрын
Let him learn from his mistakes to ruin a motherboard
@standm1971
@standm1971 Жыл бұрын
Alex. I have been watching your videos for the last two months or so and I'm totally addicted. Not only because of my passion for electronic repairs but also because of your wise ways and your good advise. I enjoyed also watching the videos where you inspire people and explain how you deal with those "awkward" clients that's clearly being dishonest. Keep doing what you're doing and don't ever stop these videos. You're an inspiration. If ever I visit that side I'll be sure to pop in. God bless you. From South Africa.
@User-13cd-rukf
@User-13cd-rukf Жыл бұрын
I don't really understand how Asus did not repair that, their repair department just saw some traces exposed but did not test any further or try to fix, saw a lot of devices that could be fixed returned from official manufacturer service as unfixable. I wish you happy new year and a better 2023 year, peace to all.
@kkgt6591
@kkgt6591 Жыл бұрын
I believe they don't repair anything at all, they outright replace your motherboard and perhaps send the bad one to some centralized office where they salvage the parts.
@gordonm2821
@gordonm2821 Жыл бұрын
The damage was causes by misuse and inexperience. I agree with Asus
@lorsheckmolseh3345
@lorsheckmolseh3345 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonm2821, even the pins of the CPU-socket have been damaged.
@ricmndy1
@ricmndy1 Жыл бұрын
Most manufacturers do not do repairs like this. It's all swap tronics. If you can't just replace a module, then it's not fixable to them.
@PatJamesRicketts
@PatJamesRicketts Жыл бұрын
If you drive a fast car, you have to rev the engine a little. I prefer to overclock my hardware, but it usually involves custom watercooling, hours upon hours of research, and years of experience to fall back on. I like to stress the hardware to see how far I can push things, but usually settle for a slight overclock (or underclock) to increase performance without sacrificing stability. I am currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X with a DDR4000 kit of memory running at 3600MHz. The Samsung B Die kit has great latency at 3600, but tends to crash if infinity fabric is set to anything higher. With the overclocking on the CPU, GPU, and RAM, I am getting the most out of my current CPU while also extending the usefulness of my 6 year old GPU. I can't recommend it to everyone, but I enjoy the challenge of finding out what the hardware is capable of.
@ionix2000
@ionix2000 Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Thank you. That board is getting the holes very easy chopped up because it is heavy and we have to be very careful when placing it to the mounting holes. In some tower cases where it is difficult to place the board properly it is better to remove the case's spacers from the middle of the motherboard not to damage the tracers.
@melannieworld
@melannieworld Жыл бұрын
Everytime, a new learning experience... Thank you for taking the time to explained and teach us. 👍
@stangaloski4208
@stangaloski4208 Жыл бұрын
Lol!! I love when you shine the uv light at the camera. Thank you!
@sivaromar4371
@sivaromar4371 Жыл бұрын
Brother I just received my order today the flux and the solder wire is the best Quality I have seen. I want to thank you for this great Channel and I appreciate the work you doing. 👍👍👍
@ejeckk
@ejeckk Жыл бұрын
Grinding those traces stresses me out every time. I usually just scrape away slowly with a blade. You must have the calmest hands is history. Also, I haven't tried the masking, UV lamp, plus heat yet. Seem like a good idea. Great job!
@mrBDeye
@mrBDeye Жыл бұрын
The secret to a steady hand is to rest part of your hand on the table, then hold the tool with your fingers. Try it.
@shiftctrlhack
@shiftctrlhack Жыл бұрын
Overclocking is a big deal on Intel and AMD. If he’s not able to run any XMP profiles (overclocking the memory) your better off replacing the board. XMP is a default memory overclock to reach the rated speeds advertised on high end memory. He doesn’t specify if he’s doing the normal XMP or trying to go above that but yes this is super important or you will be stuck at base default speeds that are much slower than what’s labeled on the packaging.
@FrameChasers
@FrameChasers Жыл бұрын
Hey man love the channel, overclocking memory nowadays gets you far far more performance gain over cpu and gpu. Also that motherboard is defective from the factory for the first revisions. The memory overclocking on them was broken. So unfortunately fixing the trace won’t do anything for him.
@techbuildspcs
@techbuildspcs Жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing you here.
@sketchitDotBiz
@sketchitDotBiz Жыл бұрын
The Z690 and Z790 boards from all manufacturers have a consistent problem with memory overclocking/XMP. XMP does actually present a good amount of benefit, and it’s extra RAM speed that you pay extra for that the factory verified it can run, but the current gen doesn’t really like doing it in certain cases. I had two different high-end Asus motherboards (different variant of this same board) that both would fail POST if DIMM 3 was populated while XMP was enabled - you can work around it if you manually set timings, but it’s not plug and play like XMP and may take some time to get right.
@RyguyAB
@RyguyAB Жыл бұрын
Actually, memory overclocking is hugely important, especially for AMD cpus. IF you buy DDR4 3600MHz memory (for AM4) but can't overclock then it will only run at 2666MHz and it will not allow the CPU/infinity fabric to run at its most optimal speed (2:1 ratio for memory speed to infinity fabric clock). Basically, if you can't overclock memory then your memory won't even run at its advertised speed and it will hold back the CPU. (It's also significant on Intel platform as well, But AMD is particularly sensitive to memory speed.) And yes, running at the rated speed of your ram is overclocking it....
@vt6020
@vt6020 Жыл бұрын
@@OKuusava XMP or DOCP are considered overclocking, because it configures the RAM module to run beyond it’s JEDEC specifications.
@TLM-Nathan
@TLM-Nathan Жыл бұрын
@@OKuusava DDR4 runs at 2133mhz. Anything more is an overclock.
@kadoplus
@kadoplus Жыл бұрын
@@vt6020 No, overclocking is running above the rated speed the manufacturer states, I got some 5600mhz DDR5 ram and set it to run at 6000MHz, this is overclocking, JEDEC spec is just the baseline that ram has to be manufactured and run at.
@deadmoon16
@deadmoon16 Жыл бұрын
*2133mhz
@Deathscythe91
@Deathscythe91 Жыл бұрын
xmp should not be called overclock , its been tested to run on those speeds and timings by the factory and its sold with those speeds on the price tag
@aaronjohnson5855
@aaronjohnson5855 Жыл бұрын
the vast majority of memory speeds are above the JDEC spec's so you need to enable XMP profiles which is effectively memory overclocking to get your ram to run at the advertised speeds. It also enables using faster memory timings. Now as to how much of an impact this is varies depending on the type of ram used, type of CPU used, the sensitivity of the game/app to memory speeds, latency timing uses but it can be very significant amounts of performance left on the table (in my case with a ryzen 5000 cpu and 3600 CL6 DDR4 between 10-20% in certain memory intensive games/workloads).
@samuellopez-je9nw
@samuellopez-je9nw Жыл бұрын
Thanks again My Good Sir for another lesson at the NF University, its great when the damage is visible on a board, to most superficial damage to us a potential for a Fix. Love that last bit of testing on ur new trace it shows alot that you chose to go back beyond ur repair point to ensure the effectiveness of ur repair.
@xzoli8
@xzoli8 Жыл бұрын
Your customer not just overclocks the board but also damage it too at the same time, I assume he is a smart, very responsible and has a lot of background knowledge to be able to do such things
@blackdotkiller1
@blackdotkiller1 Жыл бұрын
Have a great new year to you and family 👍
@Muhendisbeyy
@Muhendisbeyy Жыл бұрын
've never seen damage caused like that before. How you kept a straight face is commendable.
@RichWales
@RichWales Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, your soldering explanations and works helped me to replace a joystick on my son's Xbox controller and hes very happy now
@tariel1928
@tariel1928 Жыл бұрын
XMP and the AMD version (AMP) are overclocking profiles basically built into/included with good quality ram kits these days. They are actually advertised at this "overclocked" value and being unable to utilise these increased speeds can result in quite significant bottlenecks depending on the application. If this customer is talking about overclocking ram beyond the included profiles ... well then you are into hit and miss territory. Maybe you get to squeeze out some more performance, maybe it makes your system to unstable to really be useful.
@samgoff5289
@samgoff5289 Жыл бұрын
Xmp is for intel yes but AMD is not called amp it is docp or somthing silly...also judge by the condition of his mounting holes he has no idea how to build a pc much less tinker with one so I would guess he just means xmp and not actually overclocking
@tariel1928
@tariel1928 Жыл бұрын
@@samgoff5289 Yeah they have changed it a couple times. Was docp, went to amp (like on my board - which doesnt work) and now is now EXPO or something on AM5. Or like everyone calls it ... xmp.
@marcguerao2
@marcguerao2 Жыл бұрын
@@samgoff5289 I use ryzen and on my bios says A-XMP
@lorsheckmolseh3345
@lorsheckmolseh3345 Жыл бұрын
Fast module kits are so overpriced that you'll profit way more by investing the cash in a CPU of higher frequency and larger cache, without having to do risky experiments at the edge of stability.
@maklogetrich2378
@maklogetrich2378 Жыл бұрын
AMD called it EXPO now
@MarcKoekoek
@MarcKoekoek Жыл бұрын
due to watching youre video's i managed to repair 2 ecu's of 2 cars a volkswagen and an opel you do it on computer parts and i did it on car parts i was always afrais to solder the broken lines myself but thanks to youre vieo's i now know what to do and how to do it many thnmx fot it 👋👋👋👋👋👋
@wartlme
@wartlme Жыл бұрын
I am an AMD gamer. With an AMD processor, the overclocking ram will give you the most significant performance boost over anything else you can do. If I don't overclock my ram, I will only get around 130 FPS in some games. When I overclock the RAM, I can get up to 250 FPS in games with Ultra settings. It is a significant improvement. I know this board is for Intel; it also helps Intel processors work faster.
@peaceperson2270
@peaceperson2270 Жыл бұрын
as a i.t technician, i always remind my self to handle the pc hardware part with a just tiny pressure, because i know with a single over pressure the pcb board will broken n cant run as a complete circuit board, then when pcb was short, is hard to find an expert pcb soldering like sir alex, great job sir alex, u should teach ur son the art of soldering that u had mastered, btw im just pro in playing games, lol
@IONindustries627
@IONindustries627 Жыл бұрын
AMD CPUs heavily depend on RAM speeds. Could give you a performance increase of 20% in some cases.
@KarhamPaints
@KarhamPaints Жыл бұрын
It is an intel board.
@paparansen
@paparansen Жыл бұрын
APUs need that, not CPUs.
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta Жыл бұрын
That just shows how badly AMD is engineered lol
@detmer87
@detmer87 Жыл бұрын
Memory speeds are getting more and more important for modern systems. Gains of 30% compared to budget value memory are not uncommon for bandwidth/timing sensitive applications.
@The_Ballo
@The_Ballo Жыл бұрын
Used to be the most important thing in the 80s early 90s, too
@tyrellwreleck4226
@tyrellwreleck4226 Жыл бұрын
Memory speed does not matter these days because of fast and improved ssd. Games use gpu memory which are already ddr5 and ddr6. It only matter to overclock the ram if you have 4gb gpu or you are having a very high-res monitor.
@Joe-wk9ow
@Joe-wk9ow Жыл бұрын
Especially on AMD systems as the Infinity Fabric is tied to the memory speeds.
@Joe-wk9ow
@Joe-wk9ow Жыл бұрын
@@tyrellwreleck4226 It matters on AMD Ryzen systems. Go look at a video comparing memory speeds on Ryzen systems.
@falcon6329
@falcon6329 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrellwreleck4226 ssd are way way slower than ram
@Macabri_2k10
@Macabri_2k10 Жыл бұрын
the fastest CPU is hampered by slow working memory, you can gain quite a bit of performance when CPU and RAM are overclocked. technically applying the XMP profile already counts as overclocking since it goes over the spec, when you manually tweak your clocks and timings you gain a bit more performance, but that requires reliable clean power and good components, it is a very finnicky process
@blazetechstuff
@blazetechstuff Жыл бұрын
there is a lot to understand about memory overclocking. in terms of motherboard memory, you have single/dual rank, dual/triple/quad (in consumer boards) channel memory. some cases having 4x8g sticks will be better than having 2x 16g, this comes down to rank and a few other things like how the motherboard is wired up, be it daisy chain or t topology. higher speed memory can affect certain application performance. you can pretty much pick one of the points i mentioned and read/watch hours of content to understand it fully. I suggest dont get into it too much if you have a full plate.
@chalcac3462
@chalcac3462 Жыл бұрын
All the best Alex. Love your videos.
@pow9606
@pow9606 Жыл бұрын
🤟I thought the hot air in conjunction with UV light tip came from you. It's all good. nice work as usual.
@robertpage2023
@robertpage2023 Жыл бұрын
Holy Crap..............did he lay this down on a gravel drive way?? I am always surprised how rough people treat their electronics. I still have my Dell XPS 15 and except for a twisted power cord that I replaced, it still works as well as the day I bought it FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@pel666
@pel666 Жыл бұрын
I think this person might be overclocking in competition. Hardwarebot is a platform that offers overclocking competition, each percentage you can gain might boost your position in Ranking. HWbot is also an excellent resource on hardware performance and specifications, the database contains so many hardwareproducts so you can compare and look at performance. For competition OC you often have the board out on an open bench table, tinker with cpu mountings, Extreme cooling and possibly LN2 so damaging boards happens frequently.
@CinematicTouchProductions
@CinematicTouchProductions Жыл бұрын
Hi Northridge I've seen a few of your video and not only are they very educational but very enjoyable to watch. I really appreciate how you take the time to explain everything you do and why, you are very clear and I really especially like the micro scopic view you give us that allow us to see the very mynute details of your process. Can you tell me what the blue apparatus microscope that hovers over electronics that displays on the screen is called? I might want to get one. Thank you very much
@NorthridgeFix
@NorthridgeFix Жыл бұрын
You mean the microscope. We have Version 2 now and it's black in color. The blue one was version 1. . northridgefix.com/product/microscope-camera-bundle-1080-60fps-180x-lens-ring-adapter-2-barlow-lenses-0-5x-0-75x/
@CinematicTouchProductions
@CinematicTouchProductions Жыл бұрын
Omg! I saw your other video titled "my struggles starting a repairbusiness" and you managed to cause me emotional stress! Lol 😆 what a story! And you tell it very well, then it dawned on me, why am I stressing out? I forgot I was listening to your story not mine!! Wow
@aky19832001
@aky19832001 Жыл бұрын
Of all the pc I’ve built and laptops I’ve gone through over the years. I can safely say that Asus has more quality control issues than other manufacturers when it comes to motherboards. But they lead the way in laptop failing. You can’t go wrong with a MSI, or gigabyte mb paired to intel processor. I’m still rocking my i7 6700k. Upgraded to m.2 upgraded to 4000 mhz 32gb ram and paired it to 3070. Don’t have any issues. Even when I had my 1080 I was able to get decent frame rate on most if not all games.
@adammajer6680
@adammajer6680 Жыл бұрын
LOL,i bought an asus TUF laptop 4 months ago,the display already had to be replaced due failure :D
@markpmar0356
@markpmar0356 Жыл бұрын
Overclocking memory produces faster performance due to the fact that memory is the "working area" of a PC. Anything that resides in memory, notably the files that make up a video game, can be accessed much faster. Overclocking a CPU is a "brute force" method while overclocking memory produces increased efficiency and faster frame rates.
@konawolv
@konawolv Жыл бұрын
Over clocking memory is how you make the most gains in gaming or gaming related workloads (3d mark for instance). In some games, like overwatch or warzone, a memory overclock can see increases of 20-50%. A CPU can't perform if it has no data. Enter fast memory to keep the CPU fed. When ocing memory, depending on how far you manage to take it, you can achieve a 2x increase bandwidth and about 30% lower latency.
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 Жыл бұрын
when you're increasing bandwidth with overclock, you usually need (apart from voltage) a bit more "relaxed" timings, which means higher latency. you need very high quality ram chips to keep the latency the same.
@ayuchanayuko
@ayuchanayuko Жыл бұрын
1: Overclocking memory works so that the CPU is constantly fed with data. CPUs have gone a long way to the point that they are starved for data and modern applications rely on huge transfer of data to work. Old applications on the i5-2500k used to not get any gains on DDR3-1866CL11 vs DDR3-1333CL7 but with modern games and applications it can make computer twice faster. Same thing with newer CPUs, especially with the 1st-3rd gen Ryzen architecture designs. 2: for the anti-glare, might I recommend installing a polarizing filter in front of the lens? In photography, we use this to reduce glare on shiny surfaces. We call this a CPL filter we screw in front of the lens. There downsides such as that you may need to increase light and things may look too flat.
@Wingedmechanic
@Wingedmechanic Жыл бұрын
Overclocking memory gives faster data transfer between memory and CPU. In games where GPU is not a bottle neck, it will give few additional frames per second.
@bornagain2641
@bornagain2641 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex. When u buy memory you want the speed advertised like 3000 or 3600 or higher. By default they come set lowest speed. Apply XMP in bios and u get advertised speed. People like Steve from GN as well as kingpin from EVGA all overclock and compeat scores for GPU, CPU, and faster memory will help render a better score.
@kkay7224
@kkay7224 Жыл бұрын
Memoryspeeds are often overlooked by many people because the memory wasn't the bottleneck in the past. On more modern hardware memory is a bottleneck. That often the memory bandwidth gives more gains then rising the cpu or gpu clockspeeds. F.e. i nearly doubled ! my CPU score at 3dmark TimeSpy just by changing to a better memory setup going from 4 dimm ddr4 z690 to 2 dimm ddr5 z790 apex with a 13900k heavily bottlenecked by slow memory. Ofcorse there are also much cases where the memory bandwidth is not bottlenecking and gains are zero ...
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta Жыл бұрын
Cool. Didn’t know irrelevant benchmarking actually applied to real users (it doesn’t)
@VV-om8vv
@VV-om8vv 7 ай бұрын
Overclocking memory can help with certain applications such as high frequency financials and AI applications. It also directly reduces latency for in-memory databases.
@muttBunch
@muttBunch Жыл бұрын
Wow. How can one damage traces like that as expensive as the z series is
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
This board will be ruined again when he reinstalls it... 😳
@m.g.debruin8294
@m.g.debruin8294 8 ай бұрын
I think he ruined the motherboard to reinstalls it with the pc standing@@volvo09
@italianjob-vx6hp
@italianjob-vx6hp Жыл бұрын
Overlooking memory can be super beneficial in carrying and spreading the overall load on an overclocked system especially with compatible sticks where speeds can be upped by around 30%.
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta Жыл бұрын
This is false. There is no benefit when you increase the frequency AND the latency lol. You’re just drawing more power which leads to premature failure and more wasted energy
@HardcoreEngineering
@HardcoreEngineering Жыл бұрын
Alex overcklocking a memory helps alot in term of cpu minning. The share submitions increases and its easily to find a block. In term of normal user u can buy a normal 2400mhz Ram cheap and you have a Ryzen running at 3200mhz . Overcklocking the Ram from 2400mhz to 3200mhz improves alot in the system . Hope my explainatation Help . Happy new year and Much Love to You ❤
@seephor
@seephor Жыл бұрын
DDR5 with XMP is already overclocking 4800mhz modules to upwards of 6000+ mhz. The gains are not worth it IMO as you have to increase voltages and you then run into corruption issues. All for a a 1 or 3 FPS if that.
@lucaskiai2159
@lucaskiai2159 Жыл бұрын
Don't sulk become they don't appreciate. That's why u are sensei. It makes all the difference
@norgazmic
@norgazmic Жыл бұрын
Memory OC is so common that you buy rated kits. The reference speed is often very low and memory kits are often more capable of running more MT/s. This makes more difference with AMD due to their fabric, but it helps all systems with data transfer between system and CPU. It's the second most common form over overclocking, in fact XMP profiles often overclock ram and CPU.
@haloslayer255
@haloslayer255 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always, Happy New Year!
@ku4uv
@ku4uv Жыл бұрын
I don't know why people spend all that money for expensive stuff, and then they don't take care of it. Amazing!
@bindxpoxt
@bindxpoxt Жыл бұрын
overclocking the ram by selecting the saved XPM profile on the ram kit its pretty much a must do, its not like overclocking a CPU or GPU the RAM klt brings the settings saved on them you just have to select it on the bios, otherwise you can pretty much lose a ton of perfomance, and no, this is not an "overclock" that makes them super hot or consuming tons of power, its a way to apply the speeds the kit supports on the box.
@filds1
@filds1 Жыл бұрын
If the xmp doesnt work the board is pretty much useless. Since he gonna run the ram at 2133 speeds
@bkaczy
@bkaczy Жыл бұрын
Microsurgery Alex! Insane!
@CoreysHarmonyHub
@CoreysHarmonyHub Жыл бұрын
Overclocking is absolutely critical. We need to gain than extra 5 to 10 frames of performance when gaming. It makes a huge difference. It doesn't matter how much damage it causes or how expensive it is to fix.
@We_Are_I_Am
@We_Are_I_Am Жыл бұрын
Not all overclocking is for gaming; A lot of it is for competitive benchmarking, for fun, as a learning tool, or for very specific use cases.
@FussyPickles
@FussyPickles Жыл бұрын
OCing memory is more of a flex, which is probably why he brought it to you it REALLY depends on the bios as well and the timings you can get from the ram itself, but if he's willing to put so much money into this, it's more of a hobby personally, i don't see anything wrong with it - he's willing to pay for like 0.1% improvement.. you make money.. we have fun watching :)
@knite000
@knite000 Жыл бұрын
Arrggghhh....! You shined the UV light at me again! 🤣🤣🤣
@laszloszell8753
@laszloszell8753 Жыл бұрын
Its a lot of benefit from overcloc, dont have to do much just get the good cpu and memory ratio usually 5-10% tuning for the components, but because they after working "in sync" you can get way faster computer.
@jackiemay9471
@jackiemay9471 Жыл бұрын
better than factory new year alex and to your family and viewers
@jackflash6377
@jackflash6377 Жыл бұрын
If he is using an old "contact frame" then it can inhibit memory speed simply by the frame being too close to the memory traces and act like a capacitor. I had the same problem when developing the 9th gen direct to die frame and it took me about a week to figure it out. Now, when I ship a direct to die frame I also include a 4mil mylar "gasket" that goes down first. This eliminated the memory speed limit. Yes, I made the direct to die frames 4mil thinner so it would maintain the correct CPU location when tightened down. Seems the newer frames (Thermalright, Thermaltake, Grizzly) have trimmed the area that is close to the memory traces to eliminate this problem. If he is not using a frame, that can also cause it since the pressure is so high on the ILM, it bends the CPU. Get a frame!
@ErikS-
@ErikS- Жыл бұрын
This man would be an excellent brain surgeon I think...
@dainluke
@dainluke Жыл бұрын
This is a common scenario from Alder Lake but it’s kinda interesting it came through your shop. To give you context. With Alder Lake, ASUS had a batch or two of early revision boards with varying issues. Those ranged from PCB impedance problems, DIMM slot QC problems, and even the weird capacitor issue that the Hero had. It was not uncommon for ASUS to deny RMAs for arbitrary reasons (in this case not so arbitrary) and they would often send users back previously returned boards that are clearly not new. Quite a debacle. The customer was fully validated in sending the board back, some of these samples were absolutely egregious and DDR5 speed is very important for extracting performance.
@Zebra_Paw
@Zebra_Paw Жыл бұрын
overclocking your memory from base 2133MHz clock to like 3200 can make a huge difference in performance. Memory bandwidth is really underrated. A single channel configuration can make you lose 20% gaming performance pretty easily.
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta Жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t lol. Increasing frequency and latency is dumb lol
@pantelisparousos8088
@pantelisparousos8088 Жыл бұрын
Probably he didnt use the standoffs between case and motherboard. Those round grounded dots around the screw holes is a clear sign of that.
@snickgamer4206
@snickgamer4206 3 ай бұрын
Overclocking does boost performance but depends on the part every system is different even with the same parts but you do gain a slight advantage but also higher temps
@The-third-eye777
@The-third-eye777 Жыл бұрын
Just an idea but it would be good if you could give us an update on if the customer was satisfied or not at the end of every video. Just an idea thats all.
@redslate
@redslate Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how the owner managed to scrape up the board this badly. There's *literal* *armor* *cladding* on the back! Overclocking RAM can significantly improve performance, and the fact that it's been made easy with XMP makes it far more accessible.
@fredaldridge1282
@fredaldridge1282 Жыл бұрын
This guy must be a real cowboy some people shouldn’t be turned loose on such delicate electronics I have the same motherboard and believe me I was a lot more careful with it
@RaphaelSwinkels
@RaphaelSwinkels Жыл бұрын
overclocking memory is equally important like cpu or gpu overclocking its like an triangle (it depends on each other) you can clock your cpu high to 4.8 ghz (i know is not that high anymore,i'm getting old ;p) but if you do, its gonna suffer in memory bandwith its gonna go under your spec that you set before hand. so thats the fun in overclocking to see how far you can set coreclocks before you see your memory tank in performance then you know you hit the max . equally an gpu likes an good overclocked CPU/RAM config to run better/higher clocks did'nt say anything about undervolting yet that a thing too.. how do i say this: in a motorcycle you have to have your fuel, spark/air(compression) to start engine right, pc is the same..
@fullraph
@fullraph Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable how some people treat their gear. That's a 1500$ motherboard! It look like it was just tossed in the case and shaken until it found it's place on the standoff's lol
@shamsalfaisal
@shamsalfaisal Жыл бұрын
Came in for repair.
@Leon-yg5gm
@Leon-yg5gm Жыл бұрын
a bios memory chip can only hold so many different XMP settings. Each different bios revision usually will have different memories supported in it. Might just be a case of needing a different bios.
@llamapi3
@llamapi3 Жыл бұрын
So what he's referring to is XMP profiles which are built in overclock profiles for RAM. Most people do not do manual RAM overclocking. However, XMP is a standard feature for RAM now and you pay for the better sticks. If you can't use what you pay for, that sucks. However, Z690 is notorious for having issues with XMP. I honestly wonder if he actually has an issue or is just experiencing Z690 and it's shit tier generation 1 DDR5 controller.
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 Жыл бұрын
the memory controller is in the cpu die, not in the motherboard.
@rapturas
@rapturas Жыл бұрын
XMP Profiles? Supposed to provide higher frequencies and better timing, ergo improved performance. But as RAM isn't usually a bottleneck, you probably won't notice much difference in FPS in games etc.
@heyitsjel
@heyitsjel Жыл бұрын
Great video! There is quite a bit of performance to be gained by overclocking memory. eg. increasing from the DDR5 JEDEC spec (ie. not overclocked or even using XMP profiles) of 4800 MHZ (or MT if you prefer), can give *substantial* performance improvements. For example, my DDR5 kit can hit 7000 MT C32 with safe daily voltages. That's approximately a 50% increase in bandwidth over JEDEC spec.
@madmatt2024
@madmatt2024 Жыл бұрын
But how does that 50% increase in throughput translate to overall system or gaming performance, especially on an Intel system like this? IIRC, AMD Ryzen is the one that likes fast RAM, and even then the gains aren't really that large unless your RAM is a trash speed to begin with, like 2133MT DDR4. The think the largest gains I've seen are (unsurprisingly) Ryzen APUs which uses system RAM for the GPU. Not to mention, lowering the latency seems to have more effect than increasing MT.
@taylorsworld
@taylorsworld Жыл бұрын
Hi m8 i hope you have a happy new year and to your family and i hope next year be a better one
@anthony0030
@anthony0030 Жыл бұрын
Some memory is faster than the standards released so just running some memory at factory speed requires «over clocking» XMP or similar
@muttBunch
@muttBunch Жыл бұрын
Oh and I just got my strix 3080 TI for the second RMA and so far so good. No black screening yet. But I’ll be sending it to you if it happens again. EFF Asus
@___RoX___
@___RoX___ Жыл бұрын
if you overclock memory it can fetch data faster than normal clocked memory if you have slow memory the cpu has to wait until the full data is fetched then cpu have to process the data and write it back to memory it consume a lot of time we can minimise this delay by overclocking memory resulting in significant improvements in performance of pc
@DragNetJoe
@DragNetJoe Жыл бұрын
The only overclocking I've ever done that I really feel was "worth it" was the old Celeron 300A which you could easily overclock to 450 equaling the performance of a Pentium II 450 which cost about 4x as much.
@yaminsiddiqui4690
@yaminsiddiqui4690 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year in advance man!, hope the new year brings even more success in everyone's life. Ameen
@ilanbinkovitch6054
@ilanbinkovitch6054 Жыл бұрын
The overclocked hardware is meaningless without the programs. The benefit depends on the program used . Thus sometimes overclocking is not worth the extra cooling and extra wear on the system.
@zazabean23
@zazabean23 Жыл бұрын
Massive gains especially in 1080p. Memory is very very important. RAM bottlenecks the CPU mostly in terms of latency. the CPU is much faster than the ram. Your CPU essentially waits around for the RAM when it needs to access it.
@danteashen6178
@danteashen6178 Жыл бұрын
well if he got the memory working fine without OC i don't think it is related to the damaged pcb, lot of people have problem overclocking rams on z690 and ddr5 because first it depends of the quality of your ram chip but also the memory controler from the cpu, so if you have a random silicon chip on your i7 or i9 your controler (VDD2 voltage) in cpu cannot handle stable oc from ddr5. Even worst if you try to oc with a core i5. And also the ram chips themselves they are high latency quite hard to stabilize all that mess except if you re lucky on silicon lottery
@danteashen6178
@danteashen6178 Жыл бұрын
and btw dn't buy 1200 euros motherboard if you don't know how to handle it and damage it like that.
@mariosilva2716
@mariosilva2716 Жыл бұрын
Never have I ever in 38 years caused this type of damage.
@bornagain2641
@bornagain2641 Жыл бұрын
same board. excellent never a problem. Never been dropped or something dropped on it. my pci-e slot lock my gpu into the slot. wound up chipping off piece of board . then i made a fatal mistake after i filled loop and reinstalled the 24 pin but w power still on it arc buzz as i inserted it and blew the boaard. Now RMA can be tricky how u phrase things as u explain what happened. Brand new one. was sent . Bargain
@chadmckean9026
@chadmckean9026 Жыл бұрын
Usually when someone can't get XMP working they put the ram in the wrong slots, need a BIOS update, or are using 4 sticks (usually mixed ICs) If your goal is to competitive OC ram a board with LOTs of layers and only 2 ram slots is good (unless the manf. was lazy and copy/pasted a ram layout from a low end board)
@slybunda
@slybunda Жыл бұрын
used impact gun to put motherboard screws in?
@Modyfikator
@Modyfikator Жыл бұрын
Nice :) job Alex. Im fix trace everyday in my shop.
@frankcross2297
@frankcross2297 Жыл бұрын
Damage like this is easily inflicted if old standoffs are not removed from the case prior to installing a new motherboard. It mentions this is almost all motherboard manuals.
@veselinvasilev5739
@veselinvasilev5739 Жыл бұрын
These slashes are most likely from installing CPU cooler. If u install a cooler yourself be extra gentle and careful. I have a Z170 motherboard i got for spares, it was missing 2 memory channels. Luckily i managed to repair the broken traces and all works good now.
@stefanlechner
@stefanlechner Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Great work. Thank you, greets
@Stefan_Kawalec
@Stefan_Kawalec Жыл бұрын
Yep, using impact driver for MB screws it the best one can do. At least it looks like that.
@fracturedlife1393
@fracturedlife1393 Жыл бұрын
Ryzen / Intel B and H Boards Memory OC very effective on modern systems. 10% improvements easy enough with just timing optimization. Intel z boards can often run crazy high speeds on top of faster timings for bigger gains again.
@taylorsworld
@taylorsworld Жыл бұрын
Hi m8 love wat you do but have a happy new year m8 and all
@davidschisler3385
@davidschisler3385 Жыл бұрын
agree that overclocking memory can make a system more responsive, but at what cost? Are a couple of extra Frames Per Second worth a possible early death of your system???
@miguelfernandez2325
@miguelfernandez2325 Жыл бұрын
The gains from over clocking on normal cooling are insignificant, unnecessary, and most of all risky. The amount of damage on that board indicates the owner is extremely careless. I'm on my second high end gaming desktop which I built from the ground up all by my self. I've never had an issue with it at all and I've used it every day for the last 5 years. I'm do for a new build but with the inflation and the economy as it is right now I'm forced to wait a little more.
@Sir.BigBoss
@Sir.BigBoss Жыл бұрын
you are doctor of electronics mashallah great surgery lol
@chosipian
@chosipian Жыл бұрын
GREAT Videos
@ozzyfranf
@ozzyfranf Жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why people even attempt to work on computers. I know we live in a different world than what I'm used to (I'm 62) but that don't change the fact that these are complicated machines. I used to work on my cars but these days I wouldn't pretend I know how to fix one.
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