Roger Scruton - On Islam and the West

[@kenhutley971]

So refreshing to hear an articulate clear-thinking academic seemingly without an agenda to prove which is contrary to reason.

[@juliusilori]

I have been catching up on my readings of Mr Roger scruton, where the hell has he been .....we need him now and more like him!!...

[@wiseonwords]

"Where the hell has he been?" you ask. He's been around, writing and speaking up for years.

[@xealit]

"where the hell has he been" -- well, after been banned by UK academia after the 1st edition of "Fools, Frauds and Firebrands" he's been .. well, still there and writing things, also teaching in the freedom country, the States

[@hughjarce9742]

Scruton speaks so much sense. I am an atheist but recognize he speaks much sense about our Judaeochristian heritage and how dangerous the threat from Islam is.Islamism is a very real threat and we ignore Scrutons warnings at our peril.

[@dianagoodavage2898]

Yes, you are correct about this. Thank you.

[@FirstLast-cf4mi]

I'll bet my right testicle that the unnamed interviewer is a muslim. It becomes more apparent as the interview goes on. Also, his Swedish accent is shit.

[@rafaelscatena7997]

Hugh Jarce That is racism.

[@bigowl9408]

Why Islam is such a danger is because it is really an ideology that has a global domination agenda and it is this that marks it out as purely an ideology and not what it pretends to be and that is a religion.

[@bigowl9408]

Rafael Scatena Islam is nothing to do with race as any one can become a Muslim and so become a member of subjugated individuals to the ideology of Islam.

[@hughjarce9742]

I love listening to Scruton. We should ignore his observations on Islam at our peril.

[@nadyaberlin9775]

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[@FirstLast-cf4mi]

Why is it with philosophers that their message only starts getting a wide audience when they have, or would have, reached old age?

[@kenhutley971]

A Revolt to Islam would make more sense

[@JohnBarnwell888]

"One has to be a little bit more modest. I think, people who set out to change the world, always make it worse ... But a more modest proposal is the one that that I have always engaged in; which is just to understand the world and make the small adjustments that you can, in the local arena which is yours..." Sir Roger Scruton

[@EmEnz1]

Thank you for copying this part of his speech into print. It can be read and pondered over. I believe him wholeheartedly, but many think BIG changes are what is called for.

[@foadghavami2004]

Enjoyable to listen to Sir Roger

[@pbandjelly007]

Very well informed. Respect.

[@Cleombrotus100]

"Ultimately that's what Postmodernism is: it's the philosophy of Temptation." Roger Scruton. Write that one down.

[@elizabethborhi4499]

Cleombrotus100 n

[@gillersgillers6769]

Sorry to come to the game late - My first watch of a Roger Scruton video - 1st of many I hope - similar to Jordan Peterson mthinks? (Adding to amazing talk)

[@sadatanwar7611]

Scruton recently had a conversation/interview with Shaykh Hamza Yusuf of Zaytuna College, the first Muslim liberal college in America. It is uploaded on KZbin so please check it out.

[@Rake1985]

Just watched this on your recommendation. Was great, thanks!

[@sadatanwar7611]

@@Rake1985 Cool, thanks :)

[@prgunnels7679]

Just found out yesterday that Sir Roger passed away in January. :(

[@abelincoln95]

Sir Robert is a patriot. This interviewer was completely a "tainted liberal". Would & could not not be considerate enough to let him speak...

[@steveelliott77]

"You think so?", "You think so?" Yes, that's why he said it!

[@snowballeffect7812]

I'm not sure the people commenting understand precisely what scruton is saying. People still can't seem to distinguish wahhabism from the majority of islamic thought and teachings. Scruton himself confuses this point several times, perpetuating the media bias while ignoring the rampant financial support of saudi arabia by europe and the US. He brings up the change in direction but never brings up how or why wahhabism is now such a danger to islam itself, but equates it with islam and thus confusing everyone into thinking islam is a threat to "secularism".

[@flat5sharp11]

I do wish this interviewer would shut up and allow Scruton to finish his trains of thought.

[@gre8]

Indeed. So many thoughts left unfinished in this interview. In a conversation between the two it wouldn't be an issue, but it is an interview, for God's sake. Unfortunately, also, he adds rather little to the conversation, with anedoctes or facts that don't have a whole lot of relevance to the conversation. I believe the interviewe is well intentioned and perhaps interviewing in english made him more nervous than he should but, in this case, it was to the detriment of the interview.

[@Thewonderingminds]

... keep on wishing ...

[@kenhutley971]

Not an Islamic habit or tendency.

[@hjander]

Agreed, I just finished watching the same kind of an interview of Noam Chomsky. Drove me crazy, given Noam's age, we're lucky to hear his last words.

[@rogerhoke9725]

@@hjander We've endured Chomsky for over 9 decades. There's no need for anyone to endure any more of his words.

[@pablosmoglives]

Dear interviewer: If you don't want a "European perspective," which you clearly have disdain for, don't talk to a European. Intellectual closed doors.

[@rodneyblackwell7477]

Look what happened to the Christian governor of Jakarta.

[@murrayaronson3753]

If there are the Patriarchs, there are also the Matriarchs. The Matriarchs traditionally may not be equal, but they are greatly respected.

[@stephenbaish4111]

We The People - Take Note

[@nitinjournalist]

great sir avtar of george orwell

[@gamingwithslacker]

I wondered if anyone knew anything more about this discussion. Who is the interlocuto? He's very well-informed and clever, and gently pushes Scruton on points he disagrees with so as to encourage greater discussion and knowledge. Where did you find it ?

[@foadghavami2004]

The interviewer tries to make their danger minimal and ignorable, but Sir Roger righteously and very politely resists and gives his views, even at the end the guy sarcastically (in a point) says so “small is beautiful” and response was great! Being cautious, observant, worried of the primitive invasions does not mean small is beautiful, it means those pre historical ideas should start learning and adopting to modern time or be suppressed.

[@loremipsum7471]

Borders, Language, Culture, Race, Religion = Nation. The West is dying because these pillars are rejected.

[@buddyschreizerden3611]

who's the interviewer?

[@cerberus8666]

So many good points. Meanwhile... Wondering if I want my civilization subject to some anthropological experiment...

[@brouettesylvie8077]

When was this recorded?

[@quantummath]

I loved the discussion until 23:00, where it says Khayyam and Rumi (Molavi) and copies of 1001 nights are "forbidden" in Iran 😂😂 As an Iranian (academic) who travels in and out of Iran multiple times a year, I assure you that's a total fabrication. Khayyam (the atheist poet, and mathematician, among other things) is loved by the public; his books are freely available in any normal bookstore ... so are the copies of 100 nights. I have to say "wow" ... just google it before you interview a philosopher of Roger Scruton's caliber.

[@hughtrevor-flopper3214]

Thank you for your comment. Regarding your last line: The philosopher of Roger Scruton's caliber, ie Scruton himself, replied with "Yes."

[@sadatanwar7611]

Scruton forgot to credit his British forefathers with strengthening the hands of the Wahabis/Salafis by materially supporting them in their revolt against the Ottomon Empire.

[@dntinpalevo]

'Divide and conquer' has been a motto which the British empire applied quite a lot

[@brendanburgess2071]

The Ottomon Empire declared war against England first.

[@paulkiernan3256]

"Universal values make sense only in specific contexts and attempts to generalise then only leads to......just leads to their appropriation by sinister forces".

[@thesnakecharmer2531]

RIP

[@kittykatzcenteno7160]

ABOUT IRONY, YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF DELICIOUS INTELLIGENT EXAMPLES IN THE TALMOUD, AND THOUSANDS OF JOKES IN YIDISH TRADITION (NOW CALLED JEWISH HUMOUR).

[@henrygouge84]

Psalms 137: refers to the intruders/invaders throwing the Israelite children against the walls.

[@joelfisher2433]

henry gouge You need to reread the chapter

[@EL-pc8fb]

Rudest interviewer

[@zahraghyasi648]

Omar khayyam is not forbidden in Iran at all. Molana is also a persian poet not Islamic

[@bjornmormont6644]

Roger is a smart man. I wish he would study this subject more. I can tell from my own study of Islam that he is mistaken on a lot of his charges.

[@afifahhamilton8843]

I really appreciate this man's mind, and that he is not Roman Catholic. Great!

[@MrBillBronx]

Afifah Hamilton Scruton is immersed with Catholic ideas.

[@MrRobfullarton]

I heard that he is an Anglican

[@MrRobfullarton]

He beats around the bush, and should really state that an belief system is examined at its foundation, with Christianity it is the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, whereas with the Koran its the life and quotes of mohammed. In both cases the actions of the men, the lives they led, were exemplary of what followed and became a society..of believers. Mohammed's life according to the koran and hadith was one of violence, murder, assasinations, raids, selling women into slavery etc, including marrying a child bride, killing the Jews of Medina etc...now the major problem is that people need to read the books for themselves, examine the lives of the founders themselves.

[@dianagoodavage2898]

Yes, that makes sense.

[@cammro]

that's dumb, one lived during the roman empire, one of the heights of civlisation, and one lived in the dark ages, would you that the guy who wrote scientology has a better religion because they lived peacefully in the 20th and 21st century?

[@crazywazydoublehazy]

What a mind. It’s like listening to God walking in the garden telling us what is ordered and what isn’t, and what the likely consequences will be. But who is listening? Not the reckless, headlong intellectuals, plucking forbidden fruit, who need to.

[@HagiaSophia1952]

"There are Muslims and Muslims, of course", says Sir Roger. Correct: but any 'reformation' ISLAM chooses to conduct for itself MUST be carried out in Islamic countries: and not MY homeland. We ought also to bear in mind that ISLAM is undergoing a 'reformation', and is busy perfecting ISLAM. The outcome of that reformation is ISIS!

[@HagiaSophia1952]

WHY DO 'THEY' WANT TO COME HERE, ANYWAY? Have 'they' ever been asked for an answer?

[@villiestephanov984]

"Kuchi sin " does not translate bastard, because it has Mother and father !

[@shonapeterson4882]

That bastion of freedom and Democracy Indonesia haha Sir Roger is great but the interviewer is a clown.

[@alihammadshah]

Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's and onto God what's God's. What isn't God's?

[@danielcano4876]

Christ did not distinguish between the law of God and the Roman law, that is why he was condemned to death.

[@hywel4605]

adam had one wife?? what about lilith?

[@hywel4605]

she represents the masc element of the fem; once cast out of eden she becomes an electron without an atom, hence the non-sense of her being a demon. the story represents the fragmentation of the human being.

[@protestantsfailurend7890]

Alain Finkelkraut his ideas far surpass his and offer solutions over fascistic musings, which most of his are when you read between the lines of a lot of what he's saying. He was an imperialist who longed for a sovereign course for the british commonwealth. Not with the times but a fossil without progress hopelessly stagnant.

[@lisamerrittjohn]

What shining brilliance is created and then reflected ......that is why there is no dark side of the moon. Catholics worship the moon in Mary.....but the creator is jealous. It won't matter how you accept this as far as He is concerned. You are the clay and He is the Potter. Get over it and give up your insights. Occam's Razor indicates skullduggery on all sides.