Rograkh & Thrasios vs Tymna & Thrasios vs marneus calgar vs Kodama & Sakashima cEDH Gameplay

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[@Spirited_skiing]

Black market connections was incredible!!

[@Ijuxwannawatch]

That was a very crowded board state. The Black Market Connections was great, so much value all game long.

[@CommonConnoisseurs]

What a great game! ❤

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

Thank you!

[@CommonConnoisseurs]

Also I'm really impressed with the editing, this looks fantastic 😎

[@TripsAhoy]

That board was very full! Nice game fellas.

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

How this game went and how it ended, nobody could have expected :D

[@RichShivener]

Pontus spaced out.

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@RichShivener Inser Space Meme here :D

[@ccm1255]

Hey new to the channel, what program are yall using for playing? Thanks!

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

It is actually a combination of OBS virtual came, where we make OBS into a webcam. And playtesting in moxfield. I made a video about it. Here is a link if you wanna know how to set it up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aam8g2lpbr-qetE

[@ccm1255]

Cool that is super helpful, thanks!

[@vladahermansky710]

Great game

[@adammyers6321]

Mons.... did you realize that when you showed your hand to discourage kodama from getting bounced, you would have had win had he not been bounced?

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

I don't think pontus noticed.

[@sPontus]

@@cedhtvgameplay3974 you can literally see me noticing at 13:16 lol

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@sPontus it went over my head for sure

[@jtb818]

Pontus is way too strong😮

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

We should put him on the banlist.

[@sPontus]

@@cedhtvgameplay3974 hey now

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@sPontus just always target pontus first :D

[@shyuugaheero2614]

Pontus, did you consider targeting hullbreaker horror itself to bounce it to hand with one of the triggers? Wasn't sure if you would have been able to re play it.

[@sPontus]

Yeah both that and not just bouncing the reb was just bad calls on my part, i was planning on being cute and rebuying my own counterspells but i realized to late that it didnt work

[@Egovinco98]

Can someone link me an explanation of how BMC interacts with Marneus, i thought it would give 1 draw of both tokens.

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

Emmmm. Some how it counts at to seperat effekts. I know that it dose but I don't know the rule that say this by name. So sorry.

[@fnx.M]

BMC creates the tokens sequentially, similar to how a modal spell like Kolaghan's Command works. Even though priority isn't passed while the ability is resolving, the game still recognizes them as seperate instances. So Marneus triggers multiple times. This is different from spells and abilities that create multiple tokens as a single effect, like Raise the Alarm. Let me see if I can find some relevant rulings for you. Edit: This is the closest ruling I can find for sequentially resolving spells and abilities. Strangely, the CR entry on modal spells doesn't go into it, only the section on resolving spells and abilities does. *608.2c The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written.* And here's the one for multiple triggers from a single event: *603.2c An ability triggers only once each time its trigger event occurs. However, it can trigger repeatedly if one event contains multiple occurrences.*

[@leoojeda322]

Orvar the all form

[@AnotherMoMmtg]

I made a jodah stop hitting yourself deck on moxfield. It runs orvar, kwark, sakashima, feather, and zada. The goal is to make large amounts of jodah the unifier. It could use some tweaks to make it faster. Gt anothermom on moxfield.

[@bloodblade487]

I want to see Mons play Oswald Fiddlebender tbh :D

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

I don't think I will be able to play that and do good. Not a good pilot of that commander sadly.

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

6:20 you could have gone for the wheel, using 1 mana and both counter spells (you are gone lose those when it resolves regardless, so why not use it)

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

No he could not do that. He had also casted manamorphos. So he needed to pay 3. He could not do that with is 1 mana and 1 counterspell.

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

@@cedhtvgameplay3974 he had 2 counter spells.

[@marcelolima70]

6:26 why the Rograkh player didnot play his Mental Mistep? It would be sended to graveyard anyway.

[@brandonstrickland6754]

Dargo and Francisco

[@ChrisWilliams-hk3wn]

I have an amareth deck that's pretty sweet

[@nonamenerdy7918]

Lutri as commander 🤣

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

That sounds weak :(

[@ChildrenOfOwls]

@@cedhtvgameplay3974 it has a 1 card wincon and also LED breach freeze combo, I don’t think it’s too weak? Idk I think Izzet is in a good spot now

[@Rabbit3]

Mons did my comment get deleted yesterday? I thought I was first to comment with Krark and Sakashima with a moxfield link but I don’t see it on here.

[@sPontus]

Apparently youtube hid all the comments with links. Luckilly i opened the first submission yesterday so we're recording with it today

[@Rabbit3]

@@sPontus awesome! Can’t wait to see how it goes ☺️

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

Every comment that contains a link gets automatically deleted. And I actually think that is a good thing from youtube. I have had a lot of ... commercial and other comments I don't want here.

[@commanderpower99]

I'd like you to play Dargo/Jeska cEDH with PhyAltar combo

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

I will ask pontus to do this. He plays Dargo a lot more then me.

[@commanderpower99]

@@cedhtvgameplay3974 thank you (L)

[@jissanpinoygaming2915]

Crazy deck, I want to see how CEDH Keiga, the Tide Star...steal deck 😅 underrated commander. Keep stealing and copying anything 😂

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

haha I have seen that in casual. It is a bit slow.

[@jissanpinoygaming2915]

@cedhtvgameplay3974 yes its slow as its high mana, that was what i thought about it too...but its just curious how ponthos will react to that crazy 🤪 permanent steal deck...steal all commanders haha and beat them with it. Haha please accept the challenge

[@marcelolima70]

21:17 that guy really died from his own dumbness? why dont abrupt decayed the blind obedience to stop being extort since he has the mana to it?????

[@KIKthaFRIK]

the temur player is trolling, right? ...right??

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

I will be trolling till you learn my name :D

[@KIKthaFRIK]

@@VeilofDeathMTG that means more frustrating games for mons i guess

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@KIKthaFRIK I see no Frustrations but ok, not sure where it went wrong for you...

[@DyPie527]

That windfall seemed so shit. Haven't seen what happens after just yet, but that is so goddamn risky. You're wheeling away a perfectly functional hand with thrasios activations available, second largest hand and 3 pieces of interaction and a fucking tutor. What more are you wheeling for??? You're just refilling Pontus who had a low mull.

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

I will agree with you there. It wasn't necessary.

[@chiefdragoon9693]

Do Ruric Thar voltron : 3 I'm about to build it but Gruul big stompy in cEDH would be nice. either Mons or Pontus would pilot it VERY WELL. Please and thank you

[@freedomwaffle_]

Black Market Connections actually doesn't trigger Marneus twice. Marneus Reads "when 1 or more tokens enter the battlefield", so even though 2 different types of tokens are entering the battlefield they are entering at the same time, creating only 1 trigger

[@JTheGameGuy]

I believe it does because they are created sequentially, not at the same time

[@fnx.M]

They are created sequentially, so Marneus triggers multiple times. I commented somewhere else on this video with some relevant rulings.

[@jimbomctimbo1610]

​@@fnx.Myou only draw 2

[@DyPie527]

That interaction with showing and whatever was all so wrong tbh. Initial target sucked ass, but showing your hand and then making him change target after having already told a target is a little bit odd to see. very strange game overall I'll be honest.

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

1 I seen Kodama win form nowhere, 2 We live for the strange the crazy the not typical :D is what makes it interesting :D

[@fnx.M]

I think it's fine. cEDH exists in this strange place where it's both competitive and multiplayer, and hidden information/sharing information is a part of that environment. Here's how I see it: rather than forcing everyone to preface every spell with "I am planning to cast targeting , does anyone want to talk about that?" we can just speed up the game by casting the spell and having that conversation (which is pretty rare anyway) with it on the stack (as long as no other game actions have been taken, of course).

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@fnx.M Hell Yeah, that about sums it all up and good.

[@john_wick272]

I hate to be this guy, but I don't believe you can redirect REB to Swat because there is no other valid target i.e. mode of counter target blue spell

[@sPontus]

Swat redirected fierce to protect REB or am i misunderstanding?

[@MasterDecoy1W]

That is not what happened. Death redirects Fierce Guardianship to Deflecting Swat to save his REB from being countered.

[@john_wick272]

There it is! Sorry, I misunderstood what happened 😅

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@MasterDecoy1W Thank you :)

[@bgeda]

Marneus is such a cool general.

[@cedhtvgameplay3974]

dude in power armor are awesome.