Rogue's downfall needs to be studied

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@QCmaxthebeast
@QCmaxthebeast 5 ай бұрын
Good content really held back by the audio quality, i'd recommend using your phone instead of what i assume is a webcam microphone, if you can't spend 50$ on a better mic. Anything would be an improvement.
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the feedback, i think i overprocessed my audio in this video
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki 5 ай бұрын
The only loss of caps in an lec final and 3-0 of all things.
@JoeNathanWhite
@JoeNathanWhite 5 ай бұрын
Really good analysis, well picked example clips that really show your points and your arguments on what couldve been done are super precise and honestly valid.
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
thanks man! appreciate it
@maxchao3869
@maxchao3869 5 ай бұрын
Its just the management. Rogue without malrang and trymbi is a team without a shotcaller or playmaking. Then they also got rid of Odo for a mid tier carry top laner with no improvement in value. I don't believe comp and larssen were the worst mid adc in lec either, it's just that their jgl support literally has 0 idea what to do to win a game of league and they likely regressed because of continuous failure from it. It literally reminds me of how bottom tier lck teams play, which is just slowly roll over and lose lmao.
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
yep, they’re the definition of play not to lose
@JM-gu7jx
@JM-gu7jx 5 ай бұрын
some good stuff
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
thank u!!
@JoeNathanWhite
@JoeNathanWhite 5 ай бұрын
Looking at RGEs downfall is really interesting but i think a lot of their "succes" was very circumstancial. It came in a time where other teams had identity crisis (Perkz Caps Situation, FNC Mental Breakdown, etc), lucky days and good metas. Of course they were a way better team back then but i never really saw them as a clear #1 team. I think a lot of luck was involved in that. Even in their LEC title run they got 3:0 by G2 in the round before to then surprise a G2 which was having a bad day. So the fall from grace wasnt as high as one might expect just looking at the raw numbers, which also explains their fast rise to glory - they started in LEC as 10th place. One main driving factor for their succes mustve been their really proactive and smart junglers paired with veterans like odoamne and trymbi. Right now theyre lacking that insane jungler whod just call an all in and dragon, the right tp flank from the veteran toplaner or the clutch engage from the sup. It feels like nobody actually wants to take responsibility or agency. Larssen is technically a good midlaner IF hes paired with people who are confident in their demands of time and ressources from their mid. Without that you play 4v5.
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
i do agree that being the very best relies on a lot of intangibles and ideal circumstances. rogue just had that perfect cohesive aggression
@hisokamorow1762
@hisokamorow1762 2 ай бұрын
We need rouge analysis in 2022 with malrang, please
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 2 ай бұрын
yea that would be cool! i’m busy with worlds content right now 😅
@hisokamorow1762
@hisokamorow1762 2 ай бұрын
@ChasingCup yea ty and will wait that video after world you have high high quality videos keep going please. Will wait from you dear video about malrang playstyle ❤️
@ccc-eb3yk
@ccc-eb3yk 26 күн бұрын
Last time when EU made quarters
@dkagent6998
@dkagent6998 6 ай бұрын
Please do how did Fnatic choke vs G2 in this Summer Finals, it needs to be analyzed... Also FNC doesn't deserve the LEC shield anyways might as well hit themselves with it while cosplaying Captain America 😂
@Epic14796
@Epic14796 5 ай бұрын
no need to analyze. fnc is just garbage
@mr.carnage3210
@mr.carnage3210 5 ай бұрын
someone pissed in your cereal
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
ask and you shall receive! fnatic video will be published later today
@dkagent6998
@dkagent6998 5 ай бұрын
@@ChasingCup thx for the early birthday gift~
@ChasingCup
@ChasingCup 5 ай бұрын
@dkagent6998 happy early birthday mate :)
@Leogos281
@Leogos281 5 ай бұрын
I mean nothing to be studied, people just don't face the facts. First issue are the EU narratives that were spammed at that time and still are: EU thinks that LEC is a high level which is false EU=NA and thats a fact and it has been a fact the entire time besides 2018-2019 and maybe 2020, but even at those years NA was just slightly worse and the diff was EU won but NA was second so yea. 2021 casters started selling the narrative that EU caught up to G2 when in reality G2 level heavily dropped and in 2021 NA had better results than EU, RGE was garbage. 2022 they manage to win but still their gameplay was absolutely terrible and criminal and got heavily exposed during worlds, nobody expected anything from them but they still managed to fail everyone. And still EU thinks it is better than NA when the only thing we got was 1 win over TES in last 4 years, that is just sad in grand scheme of things, and it didn't even matter cuz staff of TES managed to patch up the issues and make TES school G2 on EWC. That just speaks volumes how even the best EU team with best staff is still getting outclassed in both aspects Staff + players. I believe we can catch up but all other teams need to have G2 environment in order to succeed and stop treating their "gamers" as gamer but start producing professional athletes and treating them that way, this is no longer a game played for 100 bucks in basements, millions are involved. Like I said currently imo EU=NA and I would dare say that NA>EU, they just got more orgs that have a clue what they are doing compared to EU where only G2 knows. Recent tournament showings confirmed that, EU is getting farmed by NA constantly and this trend will continue because 2+2 = 4, they got a lot of good talent currently from different regions including their own, they re-invented LCS, changed the format + have better orgs that pay more + have more clue how to run the team + better coaching staff that includes a lot of KR veterans that are not paycheck stealers like EU's coaching staff.
@Blitzkit
@Blitzkit 5 ай бұрын
if we're fact checking remember, NA getting to finals in worlds is still goal they haven't reached yet. they're the only region from the 5 major region (NA EU KR CN and even SEA/TW) to not win worlds. so yeah, overall EU > NA always won 1 worlds and 1 MSi, that's enough for me to know EU has something that NA hasn't also EU=NA became a thing after years of getting alot of talent from different region it'll be different if we have a full NA team getting to quarters(they did this with splyce, fnc and g2) or having 2 NA team reaching semis (which the LEC actually did) or even reaching finals in worlds. (TL did reached finals MSI but got defeated by G2) EWC as a reference is really bad imo, one of the events Riot wasn't actually prepared. later announcement of participation and it coincides with all the regions' their last split. so we have the smallest international tourney from a very huge main tournament overall in 2024. not even valorant is a game there.
@JoeNathanWhite
@JoeNathanWhite 5 ай бұрын
@@Blitzkit Stop talking about these facts facts. In the end facts should be about what youd like them to be.
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