Rolex Submariner VS Tudor Black Bay 58, the Tudor is that good...Yes

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Leo Vinteler

Leo Vinteler

Күн бұрын

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@matlindell5022
@matlindell5022 3 жыл бұрын
BB58 all the way.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@AZadeh-nd8vx
@AZadeh-nd8vx 5 ай бұрын
Only someone who doesn't have a Sub would say that
@matlindell5022
@matlindell5022 5 ай бұрын
@@AZadeh-nd8vx the sub is the most boring watch you can buy.
@AZadeh-nd8vx
@AZadeh-nd8vx 5 ай бұрын
@@matlindell5022 🤣 suuure...but a homage Sub from Tudor is more "interesting" 😆 Clearly you've never owned a Sub, if you had you'd know they're anything but boring. That's just something jealous people say who wish they had one 😄
@matlindell5022
@matlindell5022 5 ай бұрын
@@AZadeh-nd8vx no offense but you are wrong.I owned a few Rolexes 20 years ago .I have only kept my Explorer because it is the one I have been wearing almost every day for 30 years!🤩
@stevenkim3998
@stevenkim3998 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the BB58 will take in T-fit adjustment some day (e.g. BB58 bronze clasp). Except clasp, BB58 is perfect diver watch ever made
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
All of us waiting for that clasp. Thank you for watching. Cheers 🥃
@alphaviet6428
@alphaviet6428 2 жыл бұрын
I wear mine on the rubber band, so bracelet for me is not an issue
@rgrewal3d
@rgrewal3d 10 ай бұрын
I put my bb58 on a Tudor Ranger bracelet with a t-fit clasp. Plug and play. Perfect fitment. 🎉
@Kibby96793
@Kibby96793 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a sucker for the gilt on the 58. Though I do like the bluish lume of the Rolex.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Love the gilt also friend. The bgw9 blue is also very nice, fits the Rolex perfect. Thx my brother. 🥃
@themightysquid
@themightysquid 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, honest review. I have the BB58 and it monopolizes most of my wrist time over my 2000 Explorer2. I went to my AD 3 years ago to check out a 2000 Sub. Next to it was the Explorer2. The Sub felt more top heavy on my 6-5/8” wrist than I expected and the large crown dug into my hand. It felt like a watch I would wear occasionally. Next to it was the Explorer2. When I tried it on it simply melted onto my wrist and I knew I can wear this every day. Add the 24 hour hand and cyclops and it had everything the GMT dial had. The fixed steel bezel added that uniqueness that differentiated it. As much as I’ve lusted for a Sub, it’s look has become so ubiquitous, and I’ve been wearing similar styles for so long that it felt somewhat anticlimactic to finally wear it. I tried on the BB58 2 years ago on leather and it was perfect in looks and comfort. 2 years later my AD finally had a steel BB58 and I grabbed it and have been getting a tremendous amount of use with it. As much as I want a Sub for posterity and it’s iconic status, I would probably wear my BB58 most of the time if I had it.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thank you for your comment. The Exlr 2 is a very cool watch, I can see why you like it. Agreed the sub does feel too top heavy for me also. Love the sub, just not this sub, an older one…. Maybe. The BB58 is just about perfect and now that I have it on a Jubilee, telling you, it looks and feels even better. I am working on a review on this jubilee I have on it now. It’s stunning. Cheers and come back to see that video.
@walkerb1734
@walkerb1734 2 жыл бұрын
I own both models. If I had to choose/keep just one…..it would be the BB58 blue. Both are excellent watches, but the Tudor just sings more to me.
@andywilliams4887
@andywilliams4887 3 жыл бұрын
I recently (Nov 2021) bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue to compliment a range watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 which I've cherished for 19 yrs. The Tudor BB 58 is a solid, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 version as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. But after watching some of your helpful videos, plus many others, I succumbed and I have just purchased the BB 58 Black version on 20 Dec 21. I do love the blue, but I also adore the warmer look that the black exudes, not to mention the slightly darker shade of steel Tudor has cleverly used to add slight differentiation. Maybe now owning identically-made watches, with the exact same specs, bar the colourways, is crazy, but hey it's Christmas after all !
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
That was was the point of these video, to make you buy more and more watches 😂😂😂😂😂. Just kidding friend, if you can afford it and enjoy them, why not. Hope you happy with the BB58 black, I honestly like it more than the Sub, can’t speak for the blue BB58 but the gilt always attracts me more. Cheers and thank you for your time. Cheers 🥃
@AaronHuie
@AaronHuie 3 ай бұрын
Incredible thumbnail btw!
@WrongTimeWatch
@WrongTimeWatch 3 жыл бұрын
I really wished that my BB58 had some sort of quick adjust clasp like the glide lock. I am planning to compare my BB58 to my 124060, but need to spend more time with both.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
That lack of adjustments, is probably the no 1 reason ppl part with this watch. I saw your Sub, very nice man. Allot better case. I’ll watch your comparison.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
Just looking at the watches the Tudor BB58 is the better looking watch in my opinion. But I sure do love the 36mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual date just smooth bezel.
@TheCalibratedWrist
@TheCalibratedWrist 3 жыл бұрын
The Tudor is a beautiful, vintage-inspired piece. Love the gilt. But, you are right, the Sub just exudes luxury. There is a timelessness about it.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brent, absolutely gorgeous watch. That being said the Tudor BB58 does it all for me. Ok except for straps, don’t like the look of it on straps, that’s why I’m keeping it on the bracelet most of the time. Cheers friend.
@watchmegobroke4365
@watchmegobroke4365 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man! Thanks for the shoutout! 🔥🔥🔥
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@watchmegobroke - You’re the man 👏
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Thx bro. This Seiko piece is a very cool watch. Cheers 🥃
@chadbrinker7885
@chadbrinker7885 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor looks great! Thanks for the vid 👍
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there brother. You’re welcome. Cheers 🍻
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 3 ай бұрын
The 58 is so well made and perfectly proportioned for a sports watch. It borrows from classic Tudors and Rolex without being a slave to an exact copy . It really is it’s own thing. The gilt bezel gives the 58 a warm feel, the red triangle offers a pop of color paying homage to the Tudor Big Crown, the chunky coin edge crown is so satisfying to wind with a refined matching coin edge bezel and I love the snow flake seconds hand. It’s different from the more traditional lollipop style. By the way, 39 mm is on the smaller side for a modern sized sports watch. I think anything smaller is playing vintage territory.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelriera6277 smaller watches got the best of me. Got the Explorer in classic 36mm now. 🙋🏻‍♂️
@momoz283
@momoz283 10 ай бұрын
How about the time keeping? Are they both accurate?
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 9 ай бұрын
Yes they are. 🙋🏻‍♂️
@momoz283
@momoz283 9 ай бұрын
@LeoVinteler the price difference really its just the "name" that your paying for right?!
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 9 ай бұрын
@@momoz283 status more than anything 🙋🏻‍♂️
@edcunboxings2942
@edcunboxings2942 3 жыл бұрын
The Black Bay is my fav watch. Absolutely perfect for me on my 7.5" wrist and super comfortable.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
I saw it. Looks great on you. Cheers 🥃
@exactmat
@exactmat 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video mate I was lucky and found a BB58 available at the new Tudor boutique in my home town. Unfortunately I had a tiny dust grain beneath the glas and the watch is currently in Swiss at Tudor’s manufactory. But I love the watch!! Maybe I’m lucky and Tudor manages to fix it before Christmas 🙈 Greetings from Hamburg, Germany 🇩🇪
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
That sucks. Hope it comes back quickly for you to enjoy. Cheers 🥃
@ben19961
@ben19961 8 ай бұрын
After wearing for everyday use is there one that will outlast the other? Or is one a more resistant to scratches on the case and bracelet than the other? 😊
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 8 ай бұрын
They’re probably same resistance. Rolex uses a different steel but not much difference for daily wear
@ben19961
@ben19961 8 ай бұрын
@@LeoVinteler that’s awesome thank you for letting me know I’m very interested in getting a BB GMT in the near future so I’m currently researching every detail I can thank you for reply and so quickly might I add you’ve gained a new subscriber 😊
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 8 ай бұрын
@@ben19961 the BB GMT is beautiful, be aware it is a tall watch. Case is very tall. Try before you buy
@ben19961
@ben19961 8 ай бұрын
@@LeoVinteler thank you sir I will do thank you for the advice it’s very appreciated 😊
@simonguthrun6950
@simonguthrun6950 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with you not a fan of the maxi case on the Rolex but would love an older model but I can’t justify spending so much. I have the black bay 58 & it’s become my one watch that I’ll grow old with & hand down to my son. Love the the vintage look, just hope they release the T fit clasp for it soon. Anyway great review 👍.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, we all waiting for that T fit to be available to the whole BB58 lineup. Happy you enjoying the watch. Cheers 🥂
@TerraThink
@TerraThink 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeoVinteler Just concerned that the t-fit clasp will never come to BB58 (non-bronze versions) in order to protect Rolex sales. I hope that's not the case.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
@@TerraThink it might but only for new models. They’ll do something to only fit a new type of bracelet. To protect Rolex’s glide lock
@spurs1969spurs1969
@spurs1969spurs1969 3 жыл бұрын
Love my 58 but would of preferred it to be slightly larger at 40m
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand that. For some wrists, it does look small. Cheers 🥃
@bigmeech8715
@bigmeech8715 3 жыл бұрын
The Tudor is almost a perfect watch but the lack of quick adjustment and date make it fall short.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Almost perfect is 👍🏻. I made a video on the lack of adjustments solution I found. The lack of a date does not bother me, yet 😂😂. Thank you Joe.
@jesuisnoach
@jesuisnoach 9 күн бұрын
As an investment, I get that its the rolex, but all things being equal im going for the BB58.
@markstarmer3677
@markstarmer3677 2 жыл бұрын
Both superb watches. I think for the Tudor is better value for money though. Rolex’s are over priced.
@scrhunter3901
@scrhunter3901 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i love the DressKX.. got it also on an Miltat Jubileestrap. Looks great. I also love my Bb58 😂👍🏻 perfekt Video for me
@oganovdavid
@oganovdavid 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Subscribed! I totally agree with everything you've said in this video. Submariner has been my long wanted watch. But I just don't like it with the maxi case... I hope they will bring back the more elegant case back one day & I will buy a sub.. But currently, I have decided to get a bb58 for me. Hope I will like it
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
You gonna love the BB58, not perfect but very close to it.
@BMWCARBON
@BMWCARBON 2 ай бұрын
Had a 58 but I traded it and got the new Tudor Red on jubilee Master Chronometer..🎉🎉 best tudor in my opinion
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 ай бұрын
@@BMWCARBON the red is stunning no doubt. I ended up with an Explorer 36mm as my daily watch. No more BB58
@BMWCARBON
@BMWCARBON 2 ай бұрын
@LeoVinteler the 58 is a very tough accurate watch it's just bit small for me.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 2 жыл бұрын
The maxi case design was a big mistake by Rolex, and they knew it. That’s why they fixed it with the new 41mm submariner, which is the best submariner to date. That being said, there is absolutely no comparison between a submariner and a Tudor. Those watches are on two completely different levels.
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video 👏
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Thx Miguel. Appreciate it man. Salut 🥃
@alphaviet6428
@alphaviet6428 2 жыл бұрын
I got BB58 for myself, and Submariner for my son. Both will be his someday. But I want him to grow up knowing what a humble man his father was. I also have Explorer 1, in case he is going to have his mama’s wrist size 😊
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂. I just bought an Explorer 1 Cheers to you 🍻
@robc8468
@robc8468 3 жыл бұрын
If the Tudor had a ceramic bezel with gilt numbering plus at clasp and it would be perfect. I am 400k from my net worth goal and will probably buy a BB58 in 3 or 4 years if my investments pan out. My most expensive Watch so far is a Ball Trainmaster.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Well the Trainmaster is a very cool watch. I think. Cheers 🥃
@unknowmale
@unknowmale Жыл бұрын
I like both, but I prefer bb58.
@ColdComrade
@ColdComrade 10 ай бұрын
I wish the Tudor bb58 had a date complication but that's just a submariner lol. However, personally I like the look of the Tudor better than the submariner and I feel like I can actually afford a BB58. Maybe I'll buy one within the next year or two.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 10 ай бұрын
There are a few Tudor divers with date, just not the 58. 🙋🏻‍♂️
@resjon7981
@resjon7981 3 жыл бұрын
Both nice but the Tudor is my preferred piece as I am not a fan of mercedes hands.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. The BB58 is my pick for now. Really enjoying it.
@resjon7981
@resjon7981 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoVinteler Nice, I have the BB58 In the blue and the black and to be honest pound for pound they would be very hard to beat at their current price point.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
@@resjon7981 absolutely 👏👏👏
@TerraThink
@TerraThink 2 жыл бұрын
Tudor for the win. Just like the style a lot more (and I'm no fan of the cyclops).
@kevwilliams1
@kevwilliams1 2 жыл бұрын
I just can’t get enough of that vintage look of the bb58, don’t get me wrong the Rolex is beautiful but when comparing theses two together the Rolex looks more suited to a younger man. The Tudor is no doh t much more refined and classic looking more to my taste as man in his 40’s. The 60 click on the Tudor is so god Damn crisp ! Sublime . Great video loved it
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t agree more. The BB58 is full of vintage charm an older man like me 40+ enjoys 😂😂😂. Cheers 🙋🏻‍♂️🍷
@kevwilliams1
@kevwilliams1 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeoVinteler keep the videos coming my man, I’ve just stumbled across your channel as I’m looking to purchase the bb58 same model as yours. I really enjoy your views and I’m a click away from pulling the trigger on the bb58. What’s stopping me? I don’t know maybe that thought of the £3010 GBP price tag, where if I saved that amount again then I could possibly pick up a Rolex. I’m really stuck. Thanks 😊🍹
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevwilliams1 buy used. There’s plenty online. They’re good watch movements, they’ll last you. A bit of patina/scratches looks better too 😂🙋🏻‍♂️🍻
@steelsteez6118
@steelsteez6118 Жыл бұрын
18:47 Rolex bezel click action blows the Tudor out of the water imho. But it is funny to note how biased we are towards the watches we own. I knew without a doubt, that you were going to prefer the bezel action of your BB58 🤣🤣. Don't worry, I do the exact same thing with my watches lol.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that the truth 😂😂😂. I still love the bb58 feel and sound of the 60 click more🙋🏻‍♂️🍷
@ThinkingAndInkingLtd
@ThinkingAndInkingLtd 3 жыл бұрын
Why you comparing the 39 BB58 - use the standard Tudor BB41mm - a mainly male watch. BTW, the steel on the Rolex is 904L. Leave a 316L steel watch and 904L watch under water for 100 years and the chances are the 904 will be less rusty. But Rolex don't use if for that reason. They use it because it polishes up better. More bling. 904L scratches more easily than 316L. But Rolex don't care. About 1% of people buying a new Sub are buying it for the name, the bling. Tudor are taking over Rolex's tool watch mantle - the thing that made them famous, being so good at their purpose - Rolex are moving more into precious metals. Because there are enough poseurs with enough money out there to buy it. Oh and btw, imagine if people found out that Rolex actually got their cases from China, would that change people's mind about the brand? Last point, you're less likely to having your arm macheted off wearing a BB than a Sub
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your points. I would have to say 99 out of 100 ppl don’t notice the Tudor. I’m ok with that. I’m not a guy who shows off. Cheers 🥃
@kosflorin
@kosflorin 2 жыл бұрын
Rolex is on another level
@kev9385
@kev9385 2 жыл бұрын
BB all day
@BFit25
@BFit25 2 жыл бұрын
Had both. Finishing and bracelet not up to par. Tudor just can be a Tudor it doesn’t have to be Rolex level.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 2 жыл бұрын
My Tudor was finished very nice, scratched up now 😂😂 but was perfect at one point. The bracelet is finished nice but not fitting properly, no mater what I do. Cheers
@jeffdj1975
@jeffdj1975 2 жыл бұрын
#tudorthesmartmansrolex
@BWo-bb1yw
@BWo-bb1yw Жыл бұрын
Maxi-cased watches are bulky and ugly. The older watches are perfect watches, beautiful. The tudors are a bit top heavy, but are better looking.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
The sound of bezels are best described as crunchy on the Tudor and crispy on the Rolex
@propliner
@propliner Жыл бұрын
in a way, the Tudor is better,,,,sorry
@harkonen1000000
@harkonen1000000 10 ай бұрын
Rolex looks a bit bland here.
@manuel_winde
@manuel_winde 2 жыл бұрын
The sub for me is a better watch and money aside (I.e. if someone was gifting me one) I’d want the sub. If I was buying for myself I’d get the bb58 and be quite happy with it. I wish the Tudor had a better adjustment on the clasp too. But truth be told the market price for Rolex is so high I’d never keep one unless it was a gift. Even if I got the opportunity to buy one from an AD at RRP I’d just sell it and get a free bb58 realistically/sadly. People paying £11-13k for them and I am not in a position to turn down that much.
@adamwest5625
@adamwest5625 2 жыл бұрын
Flippers like you don’t deserve to call from an AD. I was appreciative to have got the call for my Submariner 124060 and Pelagos FXD from my AD last year - both will be staying in my Collection to be worn and enjoyed. Idiots like you ruin it was people who actually deserves to get the watches 🖕
@manuel_winde
@manuel_winde 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamwest5625 oh behave you div. The market is insane- how can you call someone an idiot for selling a watch for 100% profit? People don’t deserve watches, if you want it and can get it. Buy it. It then becomes yours to do with as you please. If you expect someone to turn down the money for a free family holiday out of some watch solidarity with fellow geeks online, you need your head examined.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 жыл бұрын
Submariner ALL DAY the Black bay can only hope to be the iconic watch Submariner is 1 DAY. My favorite Tudor till this day is the Tudor Prince Big block chronograph and second favorite the Monte Carlo heritage chronograph. Also Tudor needs to stop with the faux rivets and just make a real riveted bracelet and stop with the faux crap.
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler 3 жыл бұрын
The BB58 is no Sub. Agreed. Still a nice looking piece overall. Cheers
@markveganism5003
@markveganism5003 Жыл бұрын
Tudor anyday ...cheaper but still expensive, less in ya face ,looks better ,movement and parts not too far behind rolex at all ,tudor will be noticed by watch lovers ,rolex will be noticed by thief's...rolex lovers just love the price tag ..in another fashion going for the most expensive leaves u looking like a bell end ..same as a guy in a orange lambo vrs a mint rs 2000 ...
@LeoVinteler
@LeoVinteler Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 funny but so true 🙋🏻‍♂️🍷
@achilles5197
@achilles5197 Жыл бұрын
Rolex blows that garbage out of the water. Poorly threaded crown, misalignments, aluminum bezel, crappy customer service. You can't compare these realistically.
@CTizer
@CTizer 5 ай бұрын
My bb58 gas none of these problems. Infact the crown threading is nicer than my OP i got from the ad few months ago
@kylesanchez8790
@kylesanchez8790 3 жыл бұрын
Great vibes and video! This channel needs P R O M O S M.
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