C64 Jeroen Tel's "Cybernoid I and II" Oscilloscope view

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@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :-) Thanks for the upload Rolf! :-)
@RolfRBakke
@RolfRBakke 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeroen Tel Thanks for the music! :)
@cloerenjackson3699
@cloerenjackson3699 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeroen Tel Jeroen, this tune is one I still hum as I'm going about my day. It feels so progressive, when I'm going somewhere, I'm singing this song. :-)
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeroen Tel Blimey, it's Jeroen Tel. Here, have my upvote.
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 8 жыл бұрын
+Highway Guy By manipulating the SID chip registers... that's all I can really say. (Oh... and understanding exactly what they do). :-) I guess you mean how they change so dramatically... most of that is due to using the filters and ring modulation.
@SpicySNES
@SpicySNES 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeroen Tel Listening back on the classics makes me appreciate your preview of the new remix even more. I can't thank you enough for what you've created!
@christianherbst674
@christianherbst674 Жыл бұрын
Limit: There are only 3 hardware channels! Jeroen: Okay then, I'll put drums and the bassline into the same channel.
@patemathic
@patemathic 5 жыл бұрын
Jeroen is a wizard. Especially when talking about SID tunes. Rolf is a hero. One who keeps these masterpieces up on the Internet. Eighties computer game music is timeless. Never aging. The SID chip outperformed every other player in the 80s computer industry. Even the Nintendo's 2A03 with DPCM! Look at the first letters :)
@RavenCap0807
@RavenCap0807 4 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, this is almost 40 year old hardware you are hearing. Got to be honest, I never played these games, but we had them both. I would just load them up to listen to these tones and wounder "How the hell does this sound so full when it is only 3 sound channels." This sounds amazing! Whom ever sequenced this, my 10 year old self thanks you!!!
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 2 жыл бұрын
It was me who composed / sequenced this and I'm proud you would load up the game(s) just to listen to the music ! 👀🌟👍
@imwakkod9391
@imwakkod9391 2 жыл бұрын
Making music with only 3 channels is very impressive, now imagine with only 1 channel XD
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 2 жыл бұрын
@@imwakkod9391 Done that many times to reserve channels for sound effects (weapons / explosions and such). 👀
@the-synth-artist
@the-synth-artist 2 жыл бұрын
​@@JeroenTel the legend himself :0. I love your C64 music. This one has to be my favorite!
@Kaizzer
@Kaizzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@imwakkod9391 here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWtiHZ9lNmmf6s
@bsgsmusic3451
@bsgsmusic3451 6 жыл бұрын
Just for convenience: 6:45 is Cybernoid 2.
@martynas5076
@martynas5076 5 жыл бұрын
thx
@-throat-
@-throat- 2 ай бұрын
Thank ya!
@uriituw
@uriituw 9 жыл бұрын
These are the two best songs on the Commodore 64-if not in all of electronic music. Jeroen Tel is pure genius!
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 8 жыл бұрын
+uriituw (Im now officially humbled)...
@3622Dave
@3622Dave 8 жыл бұрын
+uriituw Agreed, these and the in-game music for Eliminator. I never tire of listening to them! Thanks Jeroen! Edit... Any chance of doing the In-game track from Eliminator? That would be awesome!! :)
@Abrimaal
@Abrimaal 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. Never heard a longer synth solo that was composed, not improvised.
@Ziplock9000
@Ziplock9000 7 жыл бұрын
Sanxion #1 but close
@v2point0
@v2point0 8 жыл бұрын
Even though i have been born many years after C64.i still find the tunes composed for it and other computers of its age charming, suitable for many situations and just generally awesome! Just saying, who hasn't heard of C64 Orchestra yet, give them a listen!
@aleksanderbudzynowski3625
@aleksanderbudzynowski3625 5 жыл бұрын
Get a second hand one. I was born after the C64 as well but I needed to play with the real deal... also watch the Ultimate Commodore 64 talk
@magmatri-studios
@magmatri-studios 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard about the C64 orchestra. Where can I find their songs? I love C64 songs too, and orchestral versions sound interesting.
@webmindgr9796
@webmindgr9796 8 жыл бұрын
I was loading Cybernoid II tape just to listen to the track. In order to listen to all of it, I had to stop the tape and press play again. C64 was failing to load the game but music was keep on playing till the end... No more words to say for this masterpiece. The BEST SID ever... Thank you Jeroen for inspiring a whole generation.
@cbrunnkvist
@cbrunnkvist 5 жыл бұрын
Now 30 years later, the kids who figured out that you could pause the cassette during load were the ones that grew up to become hackers no? 😄
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 4 жыл бұрын
@@cbrunnkvist I hacked... I did! =D
@markbarnes3076
@markbarnes3076 5 ай бұрын
Stopped the tape at 3:02 on the Zzap demo tape 😄
@meanmoegel
@meanmoegel 3 жыл бұрын
Few things bring me as much joy as listening to C64 music, paired with an excellent oscilloscope visualization. Having to make more with less (3 channels, 1 MHz processor, etc.) translated into soundtracks that had to be evocative, and that created the world these games lived in. One of the more magical aspects of these games is their soundtrack, which I see as their soul, and the life-force that caused these games to come to life in the player's imagination. Thanks Rolf for these great visualizations!
@Pinman1973
@Pinman1973 4 жыл бұрын
Jeroen is a genius! I think i have heard this song more than any song in the world and it NEVER gets old.
@TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal
@TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal 9 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what to say, and I'm not one who's easily lost for words. But this music is just OUT OF THIS WORLD! Mind-altering insanity! Unparallelled.
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 8 жыл бұрын
+knasbollicus (humbled) Thank you!
@simonebernacchia
@simonebernacchia 7 жыл бұрын
This made my jaw fall down in 1987 - drum was incredible for that time!
@ThomasWinders
@ThomasWinders 7 жыл бұрын
Cybernoid II: sid mastery - at its finest. The exchanging of things between each channel and the filtering is amazing.
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 4 жыл бұрын
Merci!
@Pinman1973
@Pinman1973 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeroen for all these great memories !
@seetaami5810
@seetaami5810 2 жыл бұрын
One of the sexiest base lines I've ever heard, and I'm a James Jamerson fan.
@SRDhain
@SRDhain 11 ай бұрын
This is a great 'two-fer' upload and really showcases JT's brilliance . Both tracks have a lot of emotive ebb & flow. The first has a more soulful feel & the second is more 'all guns blazing' and heroic'. I'm not sure if Jeroen intended that, but listening to them back to back evokes a kind of 'you win some, you lose some/ heads or tails' feel. Thank you for uploading 👍
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel Ай бұрын
It was intended, in a way. You win / you lose, in any game. Even in life. 🙂🙃
@1MrCrusherX
@1MrCrusherX 4 жыл бұрын
The sort of inspirational music that makes you feel that you can rip trees out of the ground with your bare hands, or, run through walls. Great to psyche yourself up too. Awesome.
@Gerardus1970
@Gerardus1970 7 жыл бұрын
Cybernoid II - so uplifting and cool. Thanks Jeroen for the composition and Rolf for the scope view which just adds another dimension.
@theogb
@theogb 5 жыл бұрын
Still keep coming back to this one. Such good memories. 9.18 onwards is where it gets sublime for me.
@BalczoLev
@BalczoLev Жыл бұрын
One of the best c64 soundtrack
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel Ай бұрын
Thank you !
@MatusFinchus
@MatusFinchus 5 жыл бұрын
I love how I can hum along to this perfectly just by watching it, without any volume. :-)
@NLRevZ
@NLRevZ 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot to turn on my speakers, but I still recognized the song by the soundwaves.. That's a sign of some characteristic Jeroen Tel musical magic happening :)
@markthackray3185
@markthackray3185 3 жыл бұрын
Best c64 tune. Always good when someone pushes the hell out of the old soundchips
@Z-Mat
@Z-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
Einfach unwiderstehliche Klassiker !!!
@krizcold
@krizcold 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THESE SOME MUCH!!! I also appretiate the seizure that the main instrument had in 12:28 still, what a legend.
@BikeNutt1970
@BikeNutt1970 5 жыл бұрын
THE most mesmerising waveforms I've seen on any visualisation. Truly hypnotic and still JT's finest composition IMHO.
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! =)
@SirMo
@SirMo 10 ай бұрын
I feel so lucky to be born in the early age of the 8bit era, when ZX Spectrum and C64 ruled the roost. Like many others we became engineers inspired by these early pioneers who pushed the envelope in those early days. Chiptunes are the soundtrack of our youth.
@Vulkans
@Vulkans 8 жыл бұрын
Cybernoid 2- Even after all these years, still sounds like an 8 channel track.
@Henk717
@Henk717 7 жыл бұрын
Moises Sanchez Found a remake in .XM format. They used 9 channels.
@deathbuncentral2310
@deathbuncentral2310 7 жыл бұрын
no it doesent lmao
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Henk717 Maybe the remake, but this is a 3 channel SID tune. =D
@Henk717
@Henk717 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeroenTel That is the impressive part about it, if it takes XM remakes 9 channels to replicate it that says a lot about the power of both the sid chip and the power of your composition given you managed to do it in 3 times less channels on the original hardware.
@Gerardus1970
@Gerardus1970 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeroenTel Had you ever heard of Eddie Van Halen when you wrote this? Elements of Cybernoid II remind me a lot of the style of Eruption.
@ConnorR.mp3
@ConnorR.mp3 7 жыл бұрын
The bass and drums in this one are so simple yet so nice.
@3tonus527
@3tonus527 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо автору, с удовольствием поностальгировал по Commodore C64
@jno7
@jno7 2 жыл бұрын
3:03 is heaven.
@georgemargaris
@georgemargaris 4 жыл бұрын
The official hymn of the home-computing 80s
@thexdude
@thexdude 3 жыл бұрын
Jeroen Tel was the Tim Follin of C64 games... the mythical deity who makes awesome music
@agentblackbird9435
@agentblackbird9435 2 жыл бұрын
Tim Follin did C64 music himself
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel Ай бұрын
Tim and I once had a (strange but friendly) argument about who "did" the "best" Commodore 64 music. The conclusion was: We both did, in our own unique way. I think that's a very respective and fair conclusion. I love Tim Follin's mysic very very much ! ❤
@thexdude
@thexdude Ай бұрын
@@JeroenTel You guys both got the very best out of very little. The fact that many of us are still looking back on these tracks today after just about 40 years speaks volumes.
@daibonehead
@daibonehead Күн бұрын
And what music. Ghosts’n’Ghouls is intense. So ambient. Bionic commando is incredible.
@simonebernacchia5724
@simonebernacchia5724 2 жыл бұрын
I did ask a friend of mine to tape Cybernoid 1 soundtrack in 1988 and i was listening to it in my car, it was THAT good, and i already had an Amiga to say! (but coming from a spectrum 48k)
@silverhowl9331
@silverhowl9331 4 жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious those waves o.o
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 6 жыл бұрын
I went on a 1 week holiday with my family in 1997 taking barges around the canals near Coventry/Birmingham.. but during the entire experience these tunes were playing non-stop in my bio-brain :o
@EmmanuelSimond
@EmmanuelSimond 6 жыл бұрын
Génial ! Génial ! de voir ainsi la musique. Thanks to the people who made it possible
@JMDAmigaMusic
@JMDAmigaMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I remember first time i heard this in 1987 on a friend C64 my jaw fall to the floor!
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck 4 жыл бұрын
Composed when Jeroen was still 14 or 15! He is a true genius on the C64... (iirc born in 1972)
@making_some_stuff3096
@making_some_stuff3096 6 жыл бұрын
Every part of this is mesmerizing.
@PaulCampbell74
@PaulCampbell74 7 жыл бұрын
Stunning tunes.
@Ziplock9000
@Ziplock9000 7 жыл бұрын
Top 5 C64 tunes for me. Up there with Sanxion and Turrican 2 on Amiga
@magmatri-studios
@magmatri-studios 3 жыл бұрын
9:48 My favorite part of Cybernoid 2.
@GERMANIA292
@GERMANIA292 Жыл бұрын
Amazing music with only 3 channel
@daw7563
@daw7563 9 ай бұрын
from 9:49 is my favourite part
@jimbobann3700
@jimbobann3700 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks brings back memories. from what I can remember the game was very difficult but worth loading for the sound track alone !
@MatusFinchus
@MatusFinchus 5 жыл бұрын
Personal favourite part 3:34. Superb.
@vuurniacsquarewave5091
@vuurniacsquarewave5091 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you it's glorious!
@GouganeBarra-u4t
@GouganeBarra-u4t 2 ай бұрын
People born since the year 2000 have no concept of the magic of the Commodore 64. Okay, they haven't to wait a number of minutes for a game to load... but their lives are the poorer for having never playing the best C64 games. As advanced as X Boxes and Playstations are, there was a certain charm about the C64 that forever endures. After nearly 40 years, the C64 still holds mostly fond memories for me.
@gmdrandom6287
@gmdrandom6287 Ай бұрын
Maybe the music had a certain amazing charm, but most games really aren't anything special. While the C64 will live in the hearts of many as holding their best memories, newer consoles and computers will have that same charm to "newer" people as they grow and their old devices fall into obscurity.
@Ich_liebe_brezeln
@Ich_liebe_brezeln Жыл бұрын
I like both but I prefer the first more. The lead ascends with a tone that makes me feel unwell for some reason (it made me tear in one occasion). It felt dramatic, desperate, like a hopeless person crying for help.
@KarlXII1718
@KarlXII1718 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tunes
@tivulandia
@tivulandia 7 жыл бұрын
pure magic
@PakShuMan
@PakShuMan 2 ай бұрын
9:49 I can still smell the cheap plastic on my quickshot joystick from 35 years ago whenever I hear this :D
@johneygd
@johneygd 9 жыл бұрын
Exciting tune.
@stabilini
@stabilini 8 жыл бұрын
oscilloscope view is hypnothic
@jammerc64
@jammerc64 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, I can never ignore lower finetune in Cybernoid 2 bassline ;) I'm doomed :(
@markwrightrf
@markwrightrf 3 жыл бұрын
We need a series of "Rob Hubbard reacts to..." videos which seems to be the current KZbin trend at the moment (not entirely Rob based, you understand.) Calling Chris Abbot!
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 9 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Awesome channel!
@sizzxrk
@sizzxrk 8 жыл бұрын
Absolute class.
@lochinvar00465
@lochinvar00465 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive for a machine that ran on a one megahertz clock and "only" 64 K bytes of RAM.
@Cosmos_Quantum
@Cosmos_Quantum 7 жыл бұрын
yeah pure perfection cybernoid 2
@BoxDoom
@BoxDoom 7 жыл бұрын
I love to use this song as reference when writing music. I pretty much rip off this song but it often ends up becoming something completely different.
@terrapin-yob
@terrapin-yob 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny, for Cybernoid 1 I prefer Dave Roger's version, but for Cybernoid 2, I prefer Jeroen Tel's version, even though both versions for both 1 and 2 are amazing.
@CountZero78
@CountZero78 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Dave Rogers versions too (though c64 versions are hard to beat). The ZX Spectrum versions get overlooked though, especially for remix/covers. I did find this rare gem though. Hope you do too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYKmY618rtSbr9E
@jet_punch6872
@jet_punch6872 4 жыл бұрын
it just screams the 80’s
@tatsujincorp
@tatsujincorp 9 жыл бұрын
unbelievable nice :)
@jazztracks78
@jazztracks78 6 жыл бұрын
I listened to this on the "Tel Tracks 2" Demo by TWA..
@FlavourlessLife
@FlavourlessLife 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@harrydigital9073
@harrydigital9073 5 ай бұрын
Cryng here (nostalgia)😊
@morkmies
@morkmies 7 жыл бұрын
great music
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 8 жыл бұрын
Wow. Odd optical illusion here. Something abouy the bottom line in relation to the video frame tricks my eyes into defocusing and then it looks like that line is recessed into the screen. Bizarre. I think I've seen too many magic eye puzzles. XD
@Shockszzbyyous
@Shockszzbyyous 7 жыл бұрын
that actually happens to me too :D it's like there is more to the screen that just the 2d image :D
@Radek0582
@Radek0582 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 9:47 moment with noice
@JMANTHEGERMAN
@JMANTHEGERMAN 2 жыл бұрын
3:03 Replay Button Irgnore
@HuntersMoon78
@HuntersMoon78 7 жыл бұрын
Cybernoid 1's music is good but Cybernoid II is just amazing and sounds like a 6 channel tune
@Xion_Toshiro
@Xion_Toshiro 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Cyberpunk, old school.
@audiumsoundwaves
@audiumsoundwaves 7 жыл бұрын
Nice song and video! Btw, where do the visuals came from? Looking for something like that to see multitracks on the DAW. It's awesome!
@rjseverijns
@rjseverijns 3 жыл бұрын
Zou eens iemand moeten aankaarten om een documentaire te maken over dit soort mensen zoals Jeroen, Charles Deenen, Bjerregaard enzovoort. Iets op Netflix of iets dergelijks. Zoals je tegenwoordig vaker ziet over retrogaming.
@maasle
@maasle 8 жыл бұрын
I really prefer Cybernoid I over II :) One of the best tunes ever!
@MicheleIVI
@MicheleIVI 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. There's really some sort of epicness in that track!
@antihumor2231
@antihumor2231 6 жыл бұрын
So do I.
@antihumor2231
@antihumor2231 6 жыл бұрын
Also, you must get likes.
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 5 жыл бұрын
I also prefer the gameplay in the first game as well
@AndroidGrandin
@AndroidGrandin 5 жыл бұрын
I almost agree but its like choosing who your favourite child is 😁
@hayrettinyildiz8018
@hayrettinyildiz8018 Жыл бұрын
I like both of the Cybernoid tunes, but I think that the Cybernoid I is about 5% superior than Cybernoid II ;) Which is the best tune, Cybernoid I or II ?
@Xion_Toshiro
@Xion_Toshiro 7 жыл бұрын
New Favorite
@Xion_Toshiro
@Xion_Toshiro 7 жыл бұрын
C64 Music needs a comeback - it's own Genre of Music
@Xion_Toshiro
@Xion_Toshiro 7 жыл бұрын
That slow Synthesizer sound is hypnotic to watch
@patton72010
@patton72010 6 ай бұрын
I'm just commenting quick on this one video of Jeroen's music where has hasn't commented ye.... oh wait, he did.
@GamerPro-i7x
@GamerPro-i7x 9 ай бұрын
my fav: 1:32
@frankmeyer9984
@frankmeyer9984 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@MonkeyForNothing
@MonkeyForNothing 6 жыл бұрын
Well, this video finally proves what I've known all along. It's witchcraft! :-)
@kqzo
@kqzo 4 жыл бұрын
what filters were used on the second channel at 10:52
@kinkinkijkin
@kinkinkijkin 9 жыл бұрын
that was kind of interesting where the channel arrangement kind of switched, I wonder why he did that?
@kinkinkijkin
@kinkinkijkin 9 жыл бұрын
Émilie Beaumont In cybernoid 1, that is
@mutetus
@mutetus 9 жыл бұрын
+Émilie-Renée Beaumont I think he just needed more space for the bassline and moved drums to channel one at one point. Sometimes the channel arrangement has to be changed for modulation reasons as well, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
@afrosheenix
@afrosheenix 9 жыл бұрын
Due to filter layers and some other controls, sometimes you have to move channels. There was an oscillator or some other setting that would stack depending on which channel it was acting on and you had to avoid it.
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro 9 жыл бұрын
Also I'd love to see Parallax!
@thamidong8656
@thamidong8656 3 жыл бұрын
i've heard cybernoid II somewhere, but i dont know where
@Abrimaal
@Abrimaal 8 жыл бұрын
Could you play music that requires the new SID and show it in split view? In one window played by the new, in the 2nd by the old model?
@akapype
@akapype 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder how "LED storm" would look like ...
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see that, too! =)
@quadpad_music
@quadpad_music 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeroenTel - I think it's already up, and it's both versions! ZXS 148k: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojOeIGkjLmqf7c C64: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnbHmHmAYr-BpaM Btw, how are you always in every video with your name in it? Are you just constantly checking when someone uploads a video about your music? xD
@RyumaXtheXKing
@RyumaXtheXKing 9 жыл бұрын
Could you make one for Tintin on the Moon?
@ChrisHennick
@ChrisHennick 7 жыл бұрын
|s there some term for the almost-square wave shape (with both the overshoot and the slant) that's used in the bottom track?
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Hennick pulse wave which is having it's pulse width modulated (PWM)
@pstudiosmusic5434
@pstudiosmusic5434 7 жыл бұрын
Jeroen Tel, what kind of slng would you make if you had dual SID chips?
@matthiasbohme3746
@matthiasbohme3746 6 ай бұрын
The game sucked and the sound kicked and is still kicking. Jeroen Tel is one of my heroes for lifetime.
@robbiew73
@robbiew73 7 жыл бұрын
Question for +Jeroen Tel - why did you swap the instruments around between channels so much in Cybernoid 1? Boredom? Or was there a technical reason for it?
@donaldthompson4044
@donaldthompson4044 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because of the order of the instruments he starts working on, I do this too sometimes.
@mrsid6581
@mrsid6581 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what everybody says, for me it’s still Cybernoid 1 > Cybernoid 2
@simonmartin4599
@simonmartin4599 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the filters on real SIDs worked this well...
@turrican4d599
@turrican4d599 2 жыл бұрын
???
@simonmartin4599
@simonmartin4599 2 жыл бұрын
@@turrican4d599 These YT videos are software emulations of the C64 chip. The sound of this game on an actual C64 is much grittier. Some people prefer it. I find that most c64 have bad filters that hardly work. The software emulations have perfectly clean filters.
@hayrettinyildiz8018
@hayrettinyildiz8018 2 ай бұрын
Cybernoid 1&2 or Robocop or Stormlord? Which is the best?
@gmdrandom6287
@gmdrandom6287 Ай бұрын
Tintin on the moon
@r12fre0n
@r12fre0n 5 жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that both of these tracks sound better at 1.20x (NTSC speed), though I'm a bit biased here growing up with these games on a NTSC C64 DTV plug-n-play.
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro 9 жыл бұрын
How do you go about making these?
@DeevDaRabbit
@DeevDaRabbit 4 жыл бұрын
1.25x speed for NTSC
@gracz7790
@gracz7790 6 жыл бұрын
5 dislikes from ZX and CPC fanboys ;)
@JohnJackson-mn4ts
@JohnJackson-mn4ts 6 жыл бұрын
cox77: I don’t know. 2 of my school mates had Amstrads and they ALMOST held their own in the sonic department. Their argument was that their machines had better graphics.
@gracz7790
@gracz7790 6 жыл бұрын
the version for cpc and zx have poorly animated sprites and a game window with the size of a postage stamp ;)
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 5 жыл бұрын
The sixth is from millennial whose idea of "good" music is Taylor Swift
@kame64discord74
@kame64discord74 5 жыл бұрын
I am an NES fan
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