Todd Rundgren on Meeting David Gilmour, Playing His First Concert, and Getting High | The First Time

Todd Rundgren remembers meeting David Gilmour, producing Grand Funk Railroad, and getting high in the latest installment of The First Time.
After recalling the first time he recorded a song and bought a guitar, Rundgren discusses the first synthesizer he ever owned, which he purchased at Manny’s in New York City. Weeks later, he received a phone call from the store saying, “There’s this guy in here from Pink Floyd, his name’s Dave Gilmour. He’s interested in a synthesizer but you’ve got the only one we had.” Gilmore went over to Rundgren’s, where they fiddled with the machine. “And that’s how I met Dave Gilmour,” he says with a laugh.
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[@CallMeChato]

I met Todd in Toronto at the Olympic Island festival concert which he headlined, around 1974 (with Status Quo, Dr. Hook, Rory Gallagher). I got a pass for the press area but not the musicians' area. That bummed me out, but then I heard Todd's voice behind me. He was already surrounded by fans. He had Bebe Buell on his arm. She was a Playboy centre-fold. I went up to Todd and said, "As fans, we read everything we can about you but you will never know us as individuals." He thought that was so cool that he gave me an interview for the Ryerson eyeopener. Then he asked me what I wanted to do. I said, take pictures of him and the band on stage. He then gave me his pass. He said everyone recognized him, he won't need it. So I got to take some amazing pics of Todd and the band. He was an amazingly sweet, wonderful person.

[@victorhawkins3461]

Great story! I had a similar experience...see above...

[@EastmanD]

And where are the photos now ?

[@CallMeChato]

@@EastmanD I have em. Where do you want to see them? I think I have an Instagram account. instagram.com/p/CKehabMAprO/

[@silverskid]

Yeah, he really is a nice man. I met him at a CMJ festival in the 80s. He was very generous with his time, very down to earth and personable. A great talent... one of a kind.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Very cool

[@toddfan3263]

One of the most underrated musicians ever!!!

[@donkeyboy585]

In the 70s he was highly regarded. faithful was considered one of greatest guitar records of the time. Maybe forgotten is more accurate

[@rijaca3]

@@donkeyboy585 He's out there touring all the time. His fans are still pretty rabid. And Todd's genius and sense of humor are still there.

[@Gary-z3t]

That's for sure! "Back to the Bars" is my favorite album of his!

[@bastidface]

Todd is one of the greatest song writers and performers of all time. What a tremendous inspiration this guy has been to the music world.

[@TomAFitch]

Thanks Mr Rundgren for being part of the soundtrack of my life. Sounds cheesie, but so true. Thank you for making this video and sharing part of your story.

[@garychambers5850]

My life as well... I remember like yesterday, 1972, _"I Saw The Light"_ was constantly on the radio! I had just graduated from High School and I was trying to date the most beautiful girl in "New Haven, Ct. 💔

[@Edmond347]

Love Todd. Something/Anything is a masterpiece. I cannot express how many good memories it brings. All vinyl. Thank you, Todd.

[@funwithFred]

Loved Jackie Gleason, and saw that movie. We always watched his shows, my father loved him, and was a heck of a lot like him. A lot of laughter, and a lot of sadness. You're a precious, Todd.

[@werenotsurfers2943]

Most underrated artist ever.

[@beanalog8202]

Todd, your a treasure! I hope you know that buddy.

[@UnoHoo1]

Touché!

[@channeldoglover9944]

Good music, stupid politics. Not saying it's not a free country but deranged politics is nuts!

[@PedroPetracco]

Wow! That Gilmour story is friggin' awesome! That EMS synth model is the famous "On The Run" sound.

[@barrymccreary9565]

love todds music and he seems like down to earth guy to

[@Twirlyhead]

Anyone else hoping to hear more details on the Rundgren, Gilmour meeting. Humph..

[@TheGreatGig73]

Yes! Did he know of Floyd at the time? What year did that happen? Did they stay in contact?

[@beckblowbyblow]

He talks about it in the book "A wizard a true star" but not to many details.

[@brakerbraker829]

Wonderful to see Mr Rundgren looking so well. Always struck me as a man of integrity. Look forward to more of your shared moments. Aloha

[@garychambers5850]

Definitely a Man of High Integrity!

[@tinyb69]

This is great. It shows what a regular, irregular guy Todd really is.

[@realitybytez]

and how much he likes to touch his nose.

[@usandthemakakelly2535]

😂

[@thegood9]

Gotta say, I loved "sentimental ol' TR" songs...nothing wrong with "Faithful" and "Love of the Common Man", etc... Let's get TR back on the sentimental journey!

[@LeeBarry]

I loved the sound of those 70s singles, many that I listened to on transistor radios in mono, including "Hello It's Me".

[@56dinosaur]

Todd comes across more relaxed in this interview than in other interviews I've seen. He even laughs at a few moments. Todd has had a somewhat difficult life. There are reasons why (often) he is very wary of people. I saw him live on the first Utopia tour. The first part of the show was Todd (with only a microphone) singing songs from "Something/Anything" & "A Wizard, a True Star" backed by a tape of the studio backing tracks. The second half of the show was fully live with the original "Utopia". Half the audience walked out, but I stayed. If I could ever meet Todd, I'd tell him that the problem at this performance (at the Miami Beach Auditorium) wasn't Utopia's music. It was a very bad, shrill P.A. system. I assumed at the time that this was the reason why Todd didn't attempt fully live versions of his shorter, more pop-oriented songs. Clearly, the members of Utopia were capable of playing the songs, but they would have sounded bad through that poor P.A. system.

[@Twirlyhead]

He has mellowed with age but then we all might if we moved to Hawaii.

[@ogpossum]

I saw that tour @ the RVA Mosque in '74. Got some decent pix of him playing 'The Fool'. I was mesmerized by Todd, but Utopia was still a lot to absorb. I too really like this relaxed and happy Todd.

[@johnwhitty9978]

Looking great Todd Love your music

[@ritarizzo9317]

Just watched his clearly human virtual show? He was hands down AMAZING! He’s almost 73 y/o, and ran , danced & sang his ass off like no other!! Such a talent !!!

[@usandthemakakelly2535]

I adore him just as much now as I did when I first heard him when I was in junior high school. I'm 59 years old now. He'll always be in my heart and soul.

[@ritarizzo9317]

@@usandthemakakelly2535 aw. He’s so cool. I’m from his hometown so we adore him here as well :) he’s a legend in upper darby lol

[@usandthemakakelly2535]

@@ritarizzo9317 that's wonderful! He's a legend everywhere! 🤪🤙

[@ritarizzo9317]

@@usandthemakakelly2535 haha so so true !!! :)

[@charley1359]

Great interview !

[@lisabarnes6919]

You were my fav. Your music was full of love & romance. And just loved your songs. And still listen to your music.God bless you!

[@crashhh9]

Rolling Stone doesn't deserve a genius like Todd Rundgren. But is cool to see him. A true artist.

[@guydimambro7670]

Love the Todd!!!!!!

[@zorkwork3841]

I saw The Nazz in the late 60s in NYC . The were the first band to come on before The Rascals...Both bands were great....really good musicians and performers...Wonderful first experience...and has stayed with me for a very long time.

[@garychambers5850]

Shit, The Rascal's are one awesome Band!!!! I think they still tour with the original band mates!

[@zorkwork3841]

@@garychambers5850 They are really good musicians.Dino Dinelli plays like Gene Krupa...He's also a good visual artist.

[@geoffstockton]

I can relate to the phenomenon of feeling less and less sentimental with age. I’m 46 years old this year and easily half as sentimental as I was at 26 years old.

[@Danielj60]

I played one of his songs in one of my 10th-grade classes in 1976, and every girl that had ignored me up to that point was suddenly interested in me. Of course, I dorked it up, and nothing ever came of it, but I'm sure this man has led one heck of an interesting life.

[@landofahhs_1]

Was enjoyable listening to Todd's reflections. We share many common experiences probably due to our age group. Funny how time and age replace the veil of modern hype with simple events in every day life. Thank you Mr. Rundgren.

[@broncodeviltexas]

When I was about 12 my brother got an album called Nazz Nazz. Can't believe I wound up seeing the guy on that record (with Ringo and the New Cars) and he's still creating music all these years later. 😎👍

[@karljennings5910]

Thank you, the great Todd Rundgren, for all of the great sounds, through the years. Mahalo, & peace, maestro!

[@usandthemakakelly2535]

🤙

[@edwardanthony7283]

72 now. Time has flown.

[@kirtb9784]

Dang one of the best little video ditties I’ve seen. Thank you. I wish to have been in the room when David G came to mess with the synth in your apartment. Wow

[@garychambers5850]

Yeh, me as well. I wonder what he did? Maybe let him use it when he needed to record? I didn't get my first Synth until 1981. It was a Roland Juno something? Dam thing was expensive! Each band member chipped in to help me buy it. After a few gigs I paid them back. It was one of the first Juno series. No presets! All the sounds you got, you made.

[@davefink2326]

Greetings from Upper Darby!

[@amherst88]

Great idea and great guest -- once a friend introduced me to Todd's music (in the '70's) there was a period where I literally couldn't listen to anything else -- he has been a treasure to the music 'business' and certainly to those of us who have been sustained by the music he has made himself -- don't know where or who I'd be without that great, great gift . . .

[@meesalikeu]

there is a whole other world of tr besides his own music, which is all the music of others he produced. his imprint is unmistakable on most of it.

[@SuzeBlues]

A Wizard...A True Star 💫

[@garychambers5850]

My first guitar was also a beat up small acoustic guitar. My Dad sent me and my brother for lessons but it was horrible. He took too long! We wanted to play NOW! So after 2 lessons we quit! I got a Beatles Guitar book and learned a bunch of chords. In 1969 I had a cheap Japanese electric guitar & amp. I learned to play the solo note for note on The Beatles " _While My Guitar Gently Weeps_ " But I've always loved Todd's music, starting with " *RUNT* " 1970 _We Got to get you a Woman_ " He played all the instruments! That's what I want to do! And I did it.

[@jkorshak]

Todd is Godd.

[@williamroark]

That’s what they say!!! (he’s GREAT, “GOD”??..... maybe) 😆 OMG!!!! I TOTALLY FORGOT he produced Grand Funk!!🙄

[@jkorshak]

@@williamroark Not God. Godd.

[@PedroPetracco]

"Clapton is GOOD. JJ Cale is God."

[@imautopian]

Well,one day the world will realize & appreciate that Professor Rundgren is the coolest cat on the planet.

[@58BURST]

Gigo is an awesome film.

[@imaseeker100]

Anyone catch the White knights tour? Took me months to process the genius in that.

[@rosiedigg]

It was incredible! A TON to unpack. I wound up seeing it twice because it was so well done.

[@joeows6537]

Road to Utopia... I looped it on my TEAC reel to reel back in the day... timeless, excellent music! Thanks Todd!

[@radiomindchatter7994]

He mellowed with age..that's a good thing.

[@victorhawkins3461]

As did Peter Paul Chato (see below) I met Todd in a small club in Gretna, LA. Utopia (the quartet version) was playing 2 shows a night for 2 nights...and I had tickets for all 4 shows. I snagged a seat front row center, which I kept for all the shows. Before the first show the second night, Eric Gardner, Todd's then-manager, came up to me and said that Todd wanted to meet me after the first show. I was flabbergasted! Eric came for me after the show and took me to the Winnebago in the parking lot. Todd was, as Peter Paul said, incredibly nice, a truly sweet, regular kinda fella. But I had NO idea what to say to someone I had idolized for so long! The thing I took away from meeting him, though, was that his hands are HUGE...I'm not a small guy, and when we shook hands, his fingers were up beyond my wrist. No wonder he can play guitar like he does! And he was genuinely tickled that I knew the words to everything they performed.

[@rexrundgren6182]

Still his manager

[@victorhawkins3461]

@@rexrundgren6182 Glad to hear that! Seems they've done good things together.

[@greenhometony]

Rex, can you ask him if he remembers playing in Las Vegas in 1977? I can't remember which casino. Dunes or ??? It was a great show.....

[@tofybean]

yes HUMUNGOUS hands!!! todd is a great genius equal parts intellect and heart in his superhuman music!

[@Al59redux]

A very good point on drugs and their use.

[@chrisamerriman]

Out of hundreds of producers, Todd was the only one who saw and understood the greatness of what Jim Steinman and Meatloaf had in Bat Out Of Hell. The rest is hi$tory...

[@happyfreeliferc]

Great stuff..Todd Rondgren way down to Earth,!!

[@Syamhouse_]

Best American Accent I have Ever Heard.

[@zoznack]

·jxllycream· Sounds midwestern, though he's originally from Philly.

[@meesalikeu]

@@zoznack thats because he also lived all over, like in upstate ny and in cali, so its an all american mix.

[@rosiedigg]

He was signing an album for me, asked me to repeat my name, and said "Oh, SARA," with the most endearing, pronounced Philly accent I had ever heard. I loved it and wanted him to say it again but I was too shy.

[@thecarguy7238]

🤩 cool Gilmour story

[@judeandrewskinne6258]

Two of my personal favorites ! Loved Todd from " Somethin"lg Anything "" until today Utopia or not ( saw Todd in Scranton, PA in a CYC gym!) And I play " the Strat Pack" by David Gilmore ( and so do my neighbor's ) almost every morning ! Todd is a master in his arm or anyone else's studio ! I never knew Todd played by ear ! So does my brother , but my bro only plays keys ! Saw Pink Floyd in the early 80s. Thanks gentleman for so many wonderful years and I hope for many more . ( Fan for life !)

[@widescreennavel]

City in my head, Utopia Heaven in my body, Utopia Into the sky, it rises now

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

Todd should add "Lonesome Town" to his repertoire. It's still a good song.

[@terrimcghee6922]

My hero/heartthrob when I was 13, 14 and 15 and I bought every album recorded he after experiencing Something/Anything. Then AWATS, Todd, then Utopia. I played them on my shitty little turntable. You remember the record would skip so you’d glue a penny on the needle then you finally get a somewhat quality stereo only to discover you ruined your albums by weighing the needle! Lol. I bought another Something/Anything and a musician friend of mine i had gone on and on about AWATS to the point he bought it and I asked if I could borrow it and, I don’t think I returned it and then someone stole most of my vinyl

[@maureenozolins6197]

I love Todd's voice more than anything. Love his backing vocals on Bette's "Let me Just Follow Behind". Under-rated as a singer, songwriter, musician, but not by me and his dedicated legions of fans.

[@lorincowell6944]

The first time I heard the word "apropos" was in early summer, 1972, at a free concert outside the U. Mass stadium, in Amherst. It was Todd Rundgren, fronting a band which included The Hello People. I forget if he or Keady, Smithline & Baltimore opened. Both bands were excellent. Got to speak with the lead guitarist from the other band, inside the stadium, at the Fleetwood Mac concert the following weekend. I vaguely remember Mr. Keady helping with Hello People's set-up after he'd finished his band's set.

[@sapinva]

Horrible word. It's ambiguous, and easily replaced by better, more concise, words.

[@meesalikeu]

funny i saw utopia and fleetwood mac at the same festival show.

[@beckblowbyblow]

Columbus Ohio digs us some Todd

[@teagrrlll1749]

Gosh, I can listen to Todd talk all day. I'm sure he has a wealth of stories & he's just an interesting dude. Bet he's so engaging in conversations when he doesn't have to answer these dumb questions.

[@Mr3DBob]

Speaking of sentimental triggers, Going to Cry Today is, for me, and instant tearstorm. I'm teary right now, just thinking about it, esp. in relation to my lately-departed sweetheart of 35 years. It sure doesn't look like you're gonna be around, so I'm gonna cry today.

[@patrickolaughlin6027]

I saw Todd with Ringo's all star band back in 2016 , he played a few of his tunes. Sounded really good.

[@bunnybubs9002]

My sister saw him, she played all new stuff, no old hits

[@markmiddaugh9359]

I met Todd during the 80's in Dallas, TX. We catered his concert...we being the Hare Krishna's.

[@dinofurlan3745]

My first Todd's album was Initiation....and i was shocked from his music😱

[@partymartyyoung1692]

Great Interview I've been a fan for years and even met Todd a couple of times He's one of the Good ones he even shared a joint with me at the club I worked at Good Times Todd THANK YOU for the music and the joint and Congratulations on finally getting in the Rock Hall

[@garychambers5850]

He is but, I didn't like the way he bad mouthed John Lennon.

[@dorinda4ever]

Cool

[@kevmac1230]

My first experience with guitar lessons in the 60s was similar to Todd's.My teacher hated the Beatles and insisted I learn these old songs that I had no interest in.Had he only made a deal with me like learn your lesson and I'll show you one Beatles song,I would've learned the whole Mel Bay book by heart.

[@garychambers5850]

Haha, that's what my guitar teacher gave me, a Mel Bay Book. Took two lessons back in 1970.. and quit! Learned the Guitar on my own with the help of course from a Beatles Guitar Book! 🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🎸

[@TheBassplayah]

Thats Mark Farner...Not Foreigner

[@cragway]

Great to hear how American Band was produced

[@alexcooke9805]

That's cool I've been listening to him since 78 I had to something anything album forever... Now on CD... But I was so dyslexic I played by sight. I even went to college on a music scholarship and I can't read music I just memorized every note of just where it was on the lines spaces... The teacher told me that was impossible I could memorize all that..... Got away with ittell college when the music professor asked me to play and B flat and I said point to it on the sheet and he said what I said just point to it there and I'll play it.... Oh well..

[@EastmanD]

interesting story but the end is garbled...he asked you play in Bb and then what ?

[@alexcooke9805]

@@EastmanD and then I went on to finish playing the piece that we practiced and stayed in the band for another year..... All he wanted to do is make sure I can play the piece when it came time and that's what I did... . You have a nice day..

[@Steve_643]

The 2nd drug ever taken DMT!!!! It’s only the most powerful psychedelic there is!!!!

[@garychambers5850]

Back in the early 70's, we use to drop " *Blotter Acid* " It was a little dot of acid on a little piece of white paper. Great hallucinogenic drug with speed in it! We loved tripping with it. Best times, about 10 of us got in 2 separate cars, drove to downtown New Haven, parked the cars and we all dropped the acid! Great times. No one got hurt, no one got arrested. We basically hung on the New Haven Green until we were almost straight! 🙃🧡

[@theydontknow9260]

I was at Todd's house (the one in this video)

[@kaiwetronic]

Love to see you alive...! Stay safe, dear master...!!

[@konarain]

Tell Todd, I played in Kona Jazz Society for Jan's Mom! Alohas from Kaloko Trails

[@grahamclews1571]

Great to hear from TR! Nice kitchen too ;)

[@fredricclack7137]

TODD 3X; Utopia 2X! 😊

[@drjeppler]

I love Todd...

[@1369buddy]

Another live Utopia Do ya,,something's coming Big fan from the 70s

[@194853DodgeTrucks]

I'ma huge Gilmour fan....I played everthing Gilmour on my guitar....but because it was the 80's my playing had a heavy metal slant to it....a guy comes up to the stage and tells me "dude, you sound like Gilmour but more Wicked".....to this day my friends still call me "Wicked Dave"....Todd is a mountain of man, I truly respect his playing and demeanor . To have been anywhere near them while they talked music, would have been awesome.

[@RosemaryReynolds-o6t]

Todd is a crack up! 🌝🌺

[@edwardanthony7283]

Todd did some great work as a solo and with Utopia.

[@derrellthomas239]

And Runt.

[@edwardanthony7283]

@@derrellthomas239 Pre solo

[@larryphelps6607]

5:00, had to rewind to see if it was my rooster or his...

[@deniseguzzardo]

Love this

[@colincheasley9018]

Todd for ever! Never forget the First utopia Tour at Hammersmith Odeon! Mind blowing! Wot a performer! I was wondering if Todd would stand for Congress? Or governor of Hawaii, He would be more trustworthy! Only trouble is when something goes wrong you get the blame it’s a risky business!

[@PedroPetracco]

6:02 Gotta love the way he says "because"! Classic.

[@andrewcrossman2165]

Look at Liv Tyler- this is her real father; Her biological father , he raised her but if you look at his head and his face, you can tell that he is her real father. Steve, Tyler, and Todd Rundgren shared the same woman.

[@edwardanthony7283]

Have that Grand Funk American Band lp

[@greatsajby9266]

Glad RS found someone worthy to spotlight instead of, say, plastering a dreamy pin-up on their cover of a mass murderer.

[@shawnfaulkner7889]

U hallucinated after smoking weed? I want some of that weed, hook it up brother!🤯

[@neilpeartspurplenose8739]

He may have undiagnosed schizophrenic tendencies. Weed will activate them.

[@dumpygoodness4086]

one time I was at a house party in NYC, 1990s, and a joint was being passed and I took a hit and said "this weed tastes STRANGE -- like laundry detergent!" and my friend said "nah, it's just sweet weed" but then they took a hit and said "you're RIGHT!" so I asked everyone "what's IN THIS JOINT?" and they told me to ask the girl who rolled it (she was the daughter of the Big Doofy Blond Neighbor Guy with the ascot on the Jeffersons, so she likely had a long history of drugs). When I asked her, she casually said "crack cocaine"! I MAY HAVE SMOKED CRACK! And it was incredible! Everything was like a SLIDE SHOW rather than moving pictures --- exactly as Todd described! Never before or since did pot make me feel that effect!

[@ClichéGuevara-2814]

Getting less sentimental as one ages seems like the right direction. Also thank you. Randy.

[@RevLeonPLeon]

"To this day I can't read music." Wow! Jimi, Tori Amos and Duke Ellington also never learned to read music. Possibly Prince too. Utterly amazing!

[@garychambers5850]

Also Lennon-McCartney-Harrison & Starkey! And look where it got them 😏 🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️

[@robertgray-islandog]

My Hero

[@edwardanthony7283]

Looks like he could be a brother of Tommy James..

[@PeterVred]

Thank you Rolling Stone!!

[@chasmenear7130]

Ok...Todd's great! Regarding the post title...?

[@mikekorzek9056]

Toddly....

[@katherinekraus766]

::*Upper Darby Strong Todd**:💪💪💪💪💪🌟🌟🌟❤

[@davidallen346]

Candace Boutell Cruz favorite musician

[@katherinekraus766]

Hall Of Fame*🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆*:Should be!!!!Who Agrees?????

[@THSeaNotes]

Todd, we need a new song. Fans need to know that you are out there and still capable of rocking the world.

[@toddfan3263]

New album coming out in Feb-Mar. A couple of new songs have been on You Tube for a few months.

[@sarastromseth-troy3323]

He's also launching the first-ever virtual national tour this month. He's performing his 1989 album 'Nearly Human' live in full along with some other songs. I'm not sure if he will debut anything new on this tour, although apparently a new album is coming. You can buy tickets and watch the shows from the tour at home: nocapshows.com/artist?name=toddrundgren

[@garychambers5850]

What sucks is, he irrelevant! He's old(er) no longer a Star like he use to be. Record companies don't want him. They want the young singers. Only problem...Everything out there sucks! Todd blows just about 100% of the new acts away! I'm sure he can find someone to release his music. And he can book clubs so his fans can see him perform.

[@tomelrod3492]

He’s definitely still capable…saw Todd and his band play an outstanding show on May 17, 2024. He brought his A game. A true legend.

[@fluffywaffles]

The first time I got high George Jetson climbed out of the TV and winked at me. I was 14 in the mid eighties.

[@imautopian]

I can relate. Only I saw George pop out of the TV way earlier when the show was first on,& & I was too young to get high yet. I must be older than you. ; I always loved the way he would hand the ladies in his family cash anytime they wanted it. lol

[@garychambers5850]

Hope you winked back! I'd be looking for Daughter Judy or even Jane, his wife ... shes hot 🤣🍭

[@mrmatko7243]

Well he is in the RNR HOF now. I hope he shows up in Cleveland. Getting in with Carole King may induce him to appear. They may want him to play a song that he doesn't want to. I'd take Just One Victory over Hello It's Me. Don't You Ever Learn? ⭐

[@garychambers5850]

Yeh, he said he loves Carole Kings music but doesn't want to be compared to her, being the male version of Carole King.

[@katherinekraus766]

The 1 n Only*;🎶🎶🎸🎶🎸Iconic**:Timeless*Priceless*:Ageless*Multi Talented **Todd Forever Strong*:💪💪💪💪💪🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🎶🎸🎶🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@RFSIsraelStarEarth]

RFS Israel *

[@antoniosteed9051]

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