Roman talks with Jaryd in bathroom about being president | Succession Season 3, Episode 6

[@knurdyob]

Kendall - better at public speaking Roman - better on one on one talks Shiv - better at shiving people in the back Connor - better at being interested in politics from a very young age

[@fallsprig4581]

shiv was interested in prison warfare from a very you g age

[@forest8779]

Shiv better at completely imploding a deal and shooting the family in the foot thinking she's the smartest person in the room when she has ZERO FUCKING BUSINESS EXPERIENCE 🤦🏻ugh if the show took out Logan at the end of season one and just had the Kendal deal with all the fallout minus his parasitic siblings would've been cool, Logan was annoying af

[@youknowicanwrite50lettersi9]

shiv is smart in tactics and strategy and all that

[@chamhong09643]

@@youknowicanwrite50lettersi9never won once tho, just a petulant entitled loser

[@VDA19]

@@youknowicanwrite50lettersi9 No she's not. If Shiv was smart she wouldn't have insulted Jaryd to his face when he and Mattsen were discussing an AMerican CEO. She basically ran herself out of the race because she was too proud.

[@Andre_APM]

The lingering stare between the two of them is the most replayed part of the video

[@littleoldmanboy]

A small part of me thought they were going to fuck or something the first time I watched this scene. And then the same thing happened when I watched the show again about a year later.

[@chasef89]

@@littleoldmanboy I thought the same thing. I didn't think that they would actually fuck, but maybe Mencken would make a pass at Roman. The idea that this far-right politician is also secretly gay, and only Roman knows ... would have been hilarious.

[@Dr.HouseMD]

I really thought this was gonna become a different kind of HBO show

[@Wolf6119]

The chemistry is definitely intentional. We’re watching Roman get “seduced” by fascism, both metaphorically and maybe a little bit literally too. Considering he gets off on being humiliated and ordered around, he’s a prime candidate.

[@sadmanahmedraian1447]

i like how jaryd says "People trust people who look like them" and theyre literally wearing the same outfit

[@gk1961]

Because it's objectively true. People naturally self segregate. From Churches, to cookouts, to the lunch table. People like people who look and act like they do. This is a universal truth across all races.

[@witchplease9695]

@@gk1961 Doesn’t justify racism.

[@suadpattonbey7239]

@@witchplease9695 or systemically making other people's lives more difficult.

[@jameswinfield5653]

I didnt even notice that. Hahahah

[@splicer0169]

@@witchplease9695 "Please ignore most of human history and innate psychological preferences cuz of my feewings."

[@TerryKeefeMedia]

Roman in these "side meetings" is the most capable of all the kids. He's not great in the board meetings but he shines one on one with some of these powerful creeps.

[@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult]

Like Rhea said: he is the one with the best instincts. He knows how to strike a deal better than his siblings, that's for sure.

[@malkeytone3285]

It’s a shame he knows so little about finance… He works people

[@galaxyghost1340]

He’s a freak who is very good at convincing other freaks (I say this with love)

[@savii4912]

that’s kinda why i hope the kids stay together ; they all have their strengths. Kendall is the boss but he can’t close deals. Roman can close but he gets rattled sometimes. Shiv isn’t clever as she thinks, but her public face is stone cold .

[@cosmiclounge]

@@savii4912 CFO; COO; CEO.

[@CharlieTooHuman]

1:52 “Come on man, slowly… I mean F*CK!” If I was standing outside that bathroom, I wouldn’t think they were having a political discussion in there.

[@kurtwagner350]

It’s so fascinating to see Roman in his element and actually being competent, when he’s actually focused I think he’s actually the most capable of the children

[@kingkunta3753]

the problem is he's barely focused

[@alainmg2362]

@@shawtykindatoxic Nahh hahah, Shiv is definitely the one who got played at the end🤣

[@mattwalker786]

you can literally hear the silence at 2:38 i genuinely thought that something was gonna happen

[@wangray9456]

0:41 “I don’t have a lot of boundaries” while walking towards Roman🤣

[@alancastillo7932]

2:09 “There’s a thing here” 🙈

[@BatmanHQYT]

Right after Roman just rubbed lotion all over his hands.

[@Katesac]

Yeah

[@phosphenevision]

At first I wasn't sure why exactly this scene had so much sexual chemistry between them but like they're literally mirroring each other, that's attraction 101

[@Redbravo001]

I thought I was the only one thinking it

[@lainiwakura44]

They are both gay. You are totally right.

[@Katesac]

Absolutely. I didn’t notice at first they are dressed like twins. And they are circling each other like cats in heat.

[@witchplease9695]

Y’all are projecting your attraction for them onto the characters. There is nothing sexual about this scene

[@myQwil]

Dunno about it being sexual, but what they're doing could be thought of as a sort of courting ritual.

[@INTJ91]

What is it with Kieran Culkin? Dude could have chemistry with a toaster. He just has…something.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Remember that's the same kid who peed on his bed and also drink too much Pepsi from Home Alone

[@INTJ91]

I choose to forget that@@margarethmichelina5146

[@sirpsychosexy]

He has gumption

[@samholder196]

Roman clearly has the instincts to take the evil empire to the next level

[@Hashpotato]

roman blew up a rocket

[@pok3rfacReturns]

@@Hashpotato Right? He’s be in jail within 72 hours.

[@chrismcgroarty350]

He also almost blew up the Pierce deal before it ever started. I know it blew up in the end anyways, but regardless...just having good instincts doesn't make one qualified. He also had to have Gerri explain to him why digging up the homeless guy with the dicc tattoo from Ken's bachelor party could be bad for him too, not only for Ken. Roman's an idiot. And a terrible idiot at that. Let's not overthink this. Having no shame and telling people whatever they want to hear is easy... a la Donald Trump. There is no effing way that Logan hands over keys of the company to Roman, who he thinks (to quote him directly) "is a moron". Plus he secretly hates all of his kids anyways...they're utilities to him. So none of them are just having that seat handed to them. They'll need to take it, and "it'll be hostile, hostile, hostile."

[@lindakachur4862]

@@chrismcgroarty350 In a talk show, Brian Cox was told by the creators that Logan LOVES his children. It's Roman's lack of fear, inhibition, lack respect for tact that makes him appear brilliant. Except for his sexual ineptitudes, and the Japanese rocket he has been skating fast and loose knowing that he exists within a shiny billionaire's bubble.

[@gamerjamson]

Ken has a conscience and Shiv has no experience within the company. Roman will succeed and Greg will be the scapegoat and go to prison.

[@annayra6458]

1:54 Roman's expression looking at the camera after Jeryd screams makes me feel like I'm watching The Office

[@slothrop4751]

Imagine someone walking by and hearing Mencken say "Come on man, slowly. I mean FUCK"

[@vingasoline5068]

Lmao that fuckin got me for some reason, just imagining that situation

[@Freecoke6]

😂😂😂😂

[@maplelu9514]

There was so much tension between them. I don’t know if Succession would make them…happen but honestly the chemistry between the two of them was something

[@jmalott96]

They were in the bathroom so really thought they were gonna fuck 🤣

[@kk-fl4pb]

Same with the scene where they chitchat at the bar earlier in this episode.

[@simonaguastalla4868]

Agree. I was thinking what if Romulus is gay and that's why He has problems. By the way amazing acting, in the firs seconds K. is amazing

[@chubbychuckle]

@@jmalott96 Exactly. I didn't realize they were in the same room as everyone else so I thought it was about to go down lmao.

[@maplelu9514]

@@goodfortune4317 pipe down, it’s never that deep. It’s a tv show and we’re allowed to speculate, if you can’t tell that there’s an obvious chemistry between them then you’re not concentrating. Plus if you think the world is homocentric now then you’re just flat out wrong, most things are still heterocentric which is why things like this are so concentrated on when they cross our screens, cause they’re rare

[@Mex.Libris]

The chemistry of it all.

[@simonlawrencesings]

This is going to be one of those "They literally showed us and we didnt see it coming" scenes. Genius

[@lazzalazuli8457]

Could you please elaborate what you meant by this? Just curious. Was it about the ending of season 4 ep 8, or something else you were thinking would be set up?

[@caesarnapoleon]

​@@lazzalazuli8457i think it s about how america will possibly have a fascist candidate after trump/biden s next term. like how simpson predicted trump

[@Nothing-ch3dw]

​@@caesarnapoleon I suspect it will be within the next 16 years. Boomers ironically are keeping things at bay. They're conservaitve yes, but they love our institutions. Gen x are very conservative, millennials are idiots, Gen z and Gen Alpha have no love for "center" politics. You can see this in Europe baby boomers are keeping the "centre parties" alive. First come prank then comes the wolf.

[@imogensteward4193]

Men will create intricate rituals to touch one another at any cost

[@BatmanHQYT]

This scene was brilliantly written.

[@JohnBonini]

"I think you could really use our push." "I think you could really use mine." "Maybe."

[@YungM.D.]

@@JohnBonini “small d Democrat”

[@littleoldmanboy]

H@@JohnBonini

[@austinmistretta8373]

They captured a new brand of millennial neofascist (a la JD Vance) that I'd never seen portrayed in media before

[@Snp2024]

​@@austinmistretta8373how is jd fascist?

[@harveyslater7042]

I can't quite decide the motivation behind Roman's speech. Either he's saying what he thinks Mencken wants to hear (and nailing it) or he feels like he's finally found someone to talk to where he can really speak freely. I find the latter a lot more interesting and a LOT more frightening.

[@amun1040]

He is basically lubing him up for his Dad. Both Menken and Logan were too proud to talk to each other, Menken was catching Logan's attention by insulting him, but also cosying up to Roman, and Logan found Menken a good face for his network who would be too dirty to stand to Logan in case of any problems with the GA, but yet Menken was too small for him to approach without losing the upper-hand so he sent Roman. Roman here just showed him how profitable would it be if he basically submits to Logan, they would let him do whatever he wants ideologically, he just have to answer to one man and make his fathers life easier. And we see Menken bringing him a can of coke as a sign of submission "anointed with a coke"

[@Conns2239]

Roman is looking ahead and thinks Jaryd is the kind of shot in the arm that ATN News needs to appeal to the new-age younger conservatives. Fox news has an average viewer age of around 50 - 60 and its commercials are aimed towards them which is why you always hear jokes about bedpan and catheter ads. Meanwhile, the main push for younger conservatives and more far-right consumption is on the internet and social media. Think the Proud Boys and Alex Jones viewers. Roman wants ATN to be the driving force behind these people and wants ATN to "modernize" to attract them back. Jaryd is their candidate and if ATN becomes the epicenter for all things new-wave right-wing with him at the center. Those commercials stop being about bedpans and start being about dick pill and bone broth because ATN will have tapped into the wingnuts that watch TickTok and KZbin political nutjobs all day by giving them the "deepstate conspiracy hour" that they like on Facebook all-day already. Roman isn't pushing this because he believes in it. He doesn't believe in anything, because he's grown up 1% and this shit won't ever effect him (just like he said to Shiv in the episode). No, he wants to straddle the country with a pseudo-fascist and send the Republican party's discord into the gutter because it will boost ATN. That's the only thing he cares about, which is what makes him so dangerous.

[@2810dragonwick]

Perfect analysis!!!

[@makingitup5746]

@AL “lefty fascist”

[@makingitup5746]

@AL dork

[@sudevsen]

The dialogue is so good,he's like the Shakespeare of dogwhistle.

[@MrCucamonga1]

This season had so many subtle, power scenes. It didn't look like much was going on, but plots were literally being rewritten in these seemingly throw-away conversations. Amazing writing and delivery.

[@anonymous-mp5rm]

Never really thought that Roman would stand up to his word and literally crown him. I tip my hat to the writers of these shows .

[@Paholies]

😭

[@mystriddlery]

Hocus POTUS

[@yggdrasil2]

I do think the writers chose to leave Mencken's potential presidency ambigious was a conscious choice. The fact that he doesn't have any allies in Waystar Royco anymore can't be good news for him.

[@oceanbythevilla]

Not Roman casually making deals with a fascist while rubbing lotion on his arms.

[@shantyclips6358]

Put in first! Also, we don't look the same.

[@RSmith6948]

2:37-2:41 is a serious eye fuck.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

"you could use our push" "I think you could use mine" Ok, yep he's definitely hitting on Rome there

[@riparoo9675]

0:30 onwards is where the dialogue goes nuts on how vague yet... communicative it is. I'll try to translate: R: "Fascism is on a rise, but it's also generally unpopular. Can you handle balancing that?" M: "Look, I have a lot of Fascist beliefs. I'm sticking to them".... "and I hate the liberal belief that democracy is perfect" M: "See, we white people/ruling class have had a stake in controlling the nation for years, and then immigrants show up and vote me out. Maybe they should contribute first before they do that." R: "Then who gets to be a part of America?" M: "White people. Maybe someday others, but not now." R: "Okay. How does ATN play into this? We know we're old and you're getting attention from young people, but you still need our base of old conservatives" M: "Are those old conservatives really going to vote against me?" R: "No, but the vote could swing. We can help with that". M: "And I can help you bring in young viewers" .... M: "Where do you stand in Logan's empire" R: "I'm not gonna answer that and deflect: I think ATN needs to, going into the future, pull in the youth crowd away from tech and stop relying on the old conservatives. We'll do it with a delicate touch: and ideally you, Mencken, will be in the centre of it" Succession is so great because, if it were my dialogue, it would be a dry boring peace of crap. Instead, it layers what people say with subtext and metaphor.

[@A.t-h4v]

THANK U

[@DeathsquadDemongods]

Nice. Now please translate: "I hate sand. It's rough. And coarse. And it gets everywhere."

[@anthonyjshaw]

The

[@AgarioGameplays]

Holly shit this is awesome! You’re awesome!

[@europapink4838]

Finally underatand what they r talking about. Thanks!

[@Artimao]

Roman has something his other sibling don't, he is extremely charismatic and grabs people's attention

[@Blashmack]

Not really good with public speaking, though. He can speak circles around you but his failure is relating to the audience or even attempting to do it. Kendall can do this (based on Living+ speech)

[@mystriddlery]

Was he interested in politics from a very early age though?

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Also, Roman is a good negotiator. He's always being friendly to his opponent first and then talk casually and then persuade them to change their mind. Shiv is mostly too direct and she talks whatever she wants to say even cursing which is not professional. Kendall on the other hand is too agressive, likes to interrupt and won't let his opponent to speak.

[@JasperChalks]

Full props to Justin Kirk, I have yet to hate a fictional character more than I hate Mencken after so little screentime

[@RettaSangili]

@AL Relax man lmao it's just someone complimenting an actor's performance, you don't need to get your panties in a bunch

[@username-I5J7ts5GCF]

@AL found the triggered fascist. Go play some more Call of Duty, kid. 🤡

[@username-I5J7ts5GCF]

LMAO this fucking clown is going through every comment to whine at everyone who calls out fascists. Imagine calling someone else soft while being the biggest bitch here. 😂

[@GlitzPixie]

@UChGulBqgDDTdHYPzGmpH0hA ... he's literally a fascist on this show you moron

[@username-I5J7ts5GCF]

@AL Your projections are as hilarious as they are absurd and off the mark. Quit screeching buzzwords you heard your daddy say and go play some more Call of Duty, you actual fucking child. Lmfao. 👶🍼

[@andyhoover8531]

I bet this is going down as one of the most pivotal scenes in the show and it's so casual in the moment.

[@christophermaxieii8727]

Imho: you were right lol. Came back to this after episode 8!

[@alfoul]

@@christophermaxieii8727 put a spoiler warning my guy

[@mystriddlery]

You should buy a lotto ticket bro

[@mystriddlery]

@@alfoul If you care about a show maybe stay out of online discussions ABOUT the show man, it’s the internet. Snape kills dumbledoor and Logan rises from the dead in the last episode.

[@am__-tr4ki]

This is brilliantly written. GREAT scene.

[@NFH1994]

There's not heterosexual explanation for this scene

[@alancastillo7932]

"I think you could use our push" "I think you could use mine" *intense eye staring while in a bathroom* Don't think there's been an interaction with more potential double meaning than this one.

[@myvettebeauty]

Yes.

[@roronoasam1]

What do you mean, the whole point is that they’re doing Coke. Logan tells him to bring up a coke for him and Mencken is high the whole time which is why he gives Logan a literal coca-cola which not only surprises him but he doesn’t drink.

[@iwillheadlockyournan731]

@@roronoasam1 how do you know this

[@mcernigz]

@@roronoasam1 no he brought the Coca Cola specifically because the last politician (who everybody initially thought would be the prime candidate) didn’t bring the coke to Logan, he questioned Logan. Bringing the coke was a symbolic gesture saying “I’ll do what ATN wants, I’ll play ball. You want me to help with tax relief for your campanula, you got it. You want me to bring you a coke, you got it”

[@xtxpxhx]

Everyone this season talking about how matsson played shiv when menkken seduced, used and discarded Roman would never stop being funny to me.

[@jimmylee9120]

Shiv fan boy 🤣 they were both used an manipulated cause they both think they are so much smarter than they truly are. That applies more towards Shiv cause Roman knows he's bullshit 😂😂

[@xtxpxhx]

@@jimmylee9120 that's exactly what I'm saying Jimmy. At least Matsson gave them a couple of billions each 🤣.

[@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga]

Shivy was right about Mencken lying when he said he'd kill the deal 😅

[@romanmarshall602]

So Roman will ascend through his sexual connections with both Gerri and Jaryd. I love it.

[@myvettebeauty]

Ok thought it was just me

[@TheNerdyPencil]

He’s sleeping his way to the top.

[@Me-ip7tt]

Not if he gets caught with Jaryd he won’t, his bigoted dad will dump him and Shiv will take over.

[@gr8esthandleever]

They were definitely giving each other the "fuck me" eyes 🤣

[@lindakachur4862]

@@gr8esthandleever They are mainly horney for power and influence.

[@shotsndocs]

I swear the vibe was so strong on this one.

[@candleman3360]

I never thought I’d hear Schumacher in the same sentence as Thomas Aquinas and St Augustine

[@philipgodsworth4764]

Still confused as to whether it’s the driver, director, social democrat, or someone I haven’t heard about.

[@jimbaker5110]

The race car driver?

[@candleman3360]

@@philipgodsworth4764 I’m pretty sure he’s referring to the west german economist.

[@candleman3360]

@@jimbaker5110 i’m pretty sure he’s referring to the west german economist.

[@eliasqueen4020]

Rightly or wrongly that’s what it means to be a free and independent thinker imo

[@thekid8832]

Roman wanted this guy and he made it happen as opposed to his siblings who spent the whole episode throwing tantrums and expecting someone else to make their wish happen

[@romanmarshall602]

I mean, Logan ultimately made this happen. If Logan had gone for Shiv's choice you might see it differently.

[@ulaytube9953]

What the hell are you talking about? Logan made it happen...Roman didn't do anything, much like his entire life...he does nothing but gets everything from his dad in exchange for his dad slapping him every now and again

[@raibug3180]

@@romanmarshall602 I can't see Logan taking a hard (center) left turn unless there was great incentive, it was either the boring vp or the spicy fascist and Logan wanted someone he can play ball with and to chastise shiv

[@comedownmachine4682]

@@ulaytube9953 period

[@NoeDuarte611]

Yeah, Roman was the only one that actually worked that night. Shiv’s whole play was “this guy is quite fascist, let’s go with another one” without actually selling her option

[@Ereh729]

"Franco and H" Jesus Christ

[@christiangriffin4452]

I really thought they were about to have a “moment” lol… and I wouldn’t have been surprised.

[@lakshyachettri753]

Well this aged well

[@catika505]

Why was this scene about destroying the world with fascism so homoerotic. Someone explain

[@grantwilliams2650]

That’s just how it is. Some of the most anti-gay politicians get found out to be gay left and right

[@malkeytone3285]

Homoeroticism is weirdly a semi regular occurrence in super manly spaces. Toxic masculinity is about worshipping and aspiring to manliness, so some men end up admiring masculinity in an intimate way even if they’re not technically gay

[@bigbeautifulape5283]

fascists are often gay. most of hitler's associates were gay as fuck. even the bolsheviks made a note of how fascists are flaming gays

[@TxThisFTW]

Justin Kirk was incredibly well casted, this show never misses

[@Horror-Man]

First time I watched this episode I legitimately thought they were gonna make out. 😂😂😂😂

[@AlexsMemeDump]

I love that Roman his rubbing lotion on his hands as he initiates the conversation. Nice callback to season 1: "I'm not good at corporate flirting, I prefer to just fuck"

[@robrick9361]

Things missing in this scene: Ethics Humility Heterosexuality

[@hombrejose8164]

When Mencken mentions "H" that's really what he meant

[@BatmanHQYT]

I love how Roman is listening to everything Mencken says from the standpoint of how good it'd be for ATN. He's both taken aback and weirdly delighted as to how much red meat they have on their hands now.

[@mr.thunder1219]

"H.... Yeah, there was a VERY NAUGHTY boy named H." Lmao, I love that line.

[@nexus9777]

god i love this show... i love how the writers are (either consciously or unconsciously) subverting typical 'hee hee ha ha fascists are bumbling and stupid' trump era entertainment which has been so prevalent over the past couple years. the subtle commentary on entertainment news whether its from the 'left' or the right is such gold, and they seem to have found a good balance between keeping the characters charismatic and alluring while still making the realism so effective it almost makes the show kinda scary. i could see succession going to some pretty dark places in the next couple years, but i know im in good hands and im here for it

[@eliasqueen4020]

+1 they writers definitely have their slants but all the same all you describe is what makes this good and intriguing art.

[@harold__440]

100% agree

[@harold__440]

100% agree

[@harold__440]

100 percent agree

[@Thedarkknight2244]

Definitely. It keeps making sly commentary on the virtue signalling of the left and makes the left-right politics seem meaningless. Then it closes the episode of one of the most harrowing, and dark, depictions of right populism rising and the family empire undermining democracy.

[@arshamspacey5375]

The only thing that can make me happy is a spin-off about Jaryd Mencken

[@alexb7858]

1:23 The fact that they were having a conversation while looking at a mirror says it all, but I still got a feeling that it was a bit too much for Roman.

[@EdoKwin]

You'd have to watch the episode for the full context, but there's a reason he grabs the Coke at the end and it's a brilliant touch

[@jackson857]

The writing is so f**king good!

[@穆天宁]

And to think that in the end he played Roman like an unpregnant cello...

[@bltr2507]

'Fuck!' at 1:55 it's because he can no longer handle the palpable sexual tension between him and Roman

[@kennethuyabeme]

Personally this was very uncomfortable to watch but it is also so good. Always looked like Roman didn't care but now we know it's not an act, he really doesn't. His strategy here checks out though, hate sells, but he's messing with things he can't possibly control and it's gonna be funny when it all blows up in his face.

[@MRTAILRED]

Yup. He really doesn't give a shit. He'd suck off a fascist just to get his father's praises.

[@stevenobrien557]

Almost like a rocket exploding

[@KD-ou2np]

​@@stevenobrien557great point! Kinda funny how they set up these patterns with the characters but still keep you in suspense about where it will go. In real life we put ourselves in the same types of situations and similar problems over and over too.

[@MLGProTroller]

This comment aged like wine

[@mehmetemirakcay3560]

Giving how all the things worked out at the end, it’s crazy that roman was the one who made all the deals went well in the first place with mattson, mencken etc but at the end of the also he was the one out of all the cast suffered most from these exchanges.

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

This character is what I THOUGHT Succession was gonna be about. And he’s only in one out of 29 episodes.

[@ryannarcisse]

“E-girls with guns and juul pods” lmao. Dont forget the ski masks 😂

[@godgrid]

Roman is a short bi king

[@Shima_mpr]

He made him president

[@BatmanHQYT]

Mencken is a creep but the "I mean, FUCK!" at 1:48 always makes me laugh.

[@georgedanilov8898]

Just rewatched this after the last epidode, "America decides' Holy smokes

[@wildwind5571]

i don’t know why but it always cracks me up when roman says “there was a very naughty boy called h” 0:56

[@samman4602]

Love the Bone Thugs reference by Roman “creeping on a come up”

[@kaitlyn6245]

Fav scene from the season so far

[@kendallpigg5097]

Couple of episodes later, Roman was back in the bathroom with a guy, trying not to watch him pee. Great character, great actor.

[@shanew2150]

Okay, not that I think it'll manifest in any way, and maybe it's just me, but I am detecting some underlying sexual tension between these two lol

[@seankoontz4235]

It’s weird how Jaryd was completely dropped from the rest of the season. In fact, my biggest issue with season 3 was how quickly new characters would come and go (see also: Sanaa Lathan and Adrien Brody’s characters). At least Alexander Skarsgard got a substantial role

[@Matt-ky8re]

Makes absolutely no sense how they used some of these secondary characters. Like I understand it’s a lot to jam into 9 episodes but then don’t create so many different compelling characters? Idk. Mencken was a beast and deserved more screen time.

[@elr6212]

I think they're setting up characters for season 4. Mencken will be back because Logan is backing him in politics, and Mattson will be back because he owns Waystar now

[@gonzalo4658]

@@Matt-ky8re dude, if ur gonna put it that way, then ur wrong and i think the show’s perfect. Here comes a season 4.

[@gonzalo4658]

@@elr6212 exactly there we have it. They think the writers are confused

[@bullbunnies]

THEY WILL BE BACK!

[@thedeans6247]

The thing I find so fascinating about this scene is how their approach to fascism isn’t based on their actual beliefs. The only desire they have is power, so they use the fears of the layman to get it. SPOILERS The scene with Kendall and Logan where Logan says “I know things about people or I wouldn’t turn a buck, not necessarily nice things,” ties into this. What Logan knows is this: humans are fearful creatures of survival, who have always had an enemy to defeat in order to stay alive. In the past two elections, it’s been shown that voters have chosen to vote against a candidate instead of for one, on both sides of the aisle. If we want to move forward, we have to stop using hate as our way of expressing love.

[@EOTA564]

Any political movement will contain a spectrum of motivations. Look at the upper echelons of the Nazi party - Goering the ruthless and cynical pragmatist vs Himmler the ideologue. One of Hitler’s talents was in balancing these interests.

[@alexk6343]

Very well said, you can never lose on betting on our worse instincts. Good people and intentions dry up and change but people will never not have the ugly side. Roman is the bootleg Logan for real.

[@Dapryor]

Great point.

[@BoogieDownProduction]

"If we want to move forward, we have to stop using hate as our way of expressing love." - what an incredibly vapid sentience.

[@thedeans6247]

@@BoogieDownProduction I think the real vapid sentence is your response which included no elaboration whatsoever. My point is that love is commonly expressed through means of exclusion or discrimination, both acts of hatred.

[@Tabbylover55]

It's nice to see Justin Kirk getting a juicy role and he did well as fascist Mencken, I hate his guts already. Hope we get to see more of him in future episodes. What I don't get is why would Logan pick him as his presidential candidate, when it's heavily suggested that Mencken is a loose cannon that won't be easily manipulated.

[@samfilmkid]

Because he’ll draw in the ratings for his networks. Also Logan finally settled on him because his assistant/fuck buddy gave the nod of approval. She sees something in Mencken and it’s scary.

[@shortyrags]

All for the views

[@u2rocks7993]

LOVE me some Justin Kirk, he’s been due for a juicy part

[@lindakachur4862]

All the other hopefuls were pathetic sick puppets. Mencken is a breath of hot fire.

[@swagmaster2276]

@@lindakachur4862 are you saying the self proclaimed fascist was the best pick???

[@waveali5620]

The actor who plays Mencken is great. He had me wanting to punch Mencken within a minute or two of his character's introduction.

[@saratadesse8048]

H … I SCREAMED when I realised who they were referring to

[@mahimarajpal2458]

Who?

[@joewithajay]

@@mahimarajpal2458 Hitler

[@Me-ip7tt]

They might of well said T instead

[@lindakachur4862]

@@joewithajay Really? You screamed? H wasn't as evil as the banksters and history has made him out to be. H was given a boatload of money to start a world war, against the Caucasian Christians, but instead, H used it to make Germany great again and succeeded wildy beyond their dreams. Churchill, the drunken druid, was the true war monger. If you turn history inside out, and upside down, you get closer to the real truth.

[@kaya7555]

@@lindakachur4862 wtf

[@ghostface1304]

Its so nice when guys show affection to each other

[@samfilmkid]

This was the most terrifying scene in the whole show…so far.

[@captainflint3354]

There's no heterosexual explanation for this 2:30

[@Sufjanstayvens]

"i don't think this scene is gay" ok well maybe you're watching wrong bc succession frequently ties business and sex together and conflates them. the way the characters speak and act during business deals is extremely psychosexual. that's like roman's entire thing.

[@daphuc1]

"I don't have a lot of boundaries" as he moves closer. "I think you could use our push"..."I think YOU could use mine" as they stare and wink at each other. I was so sure they were gonna make out by the end of that scene lol. Roman found his other half and might be in love 😂

[@pw4007]

The writing on this show. Wow.

[@emmajean8631]

Roman literally flirting with fascism

[@sergiosalazar8702]

Is it facism tho?

[@ebrahimmunsif]

@@sergiosalazar8702 Bro the president guy literally says that he won't change his beliefs when Roman asks him about fascism and then he goes to talk about the farm he tended that was taken away by 40 guys with boom boxes. Pretty simple metaphor

[@ItsMyQuantMyQuantitative]

@@sergiosalazar8702he literally said Franco & H bro

[@LOBOTOMINIZER]

gotta admit Roman was never for big talk meetings, this one on one, side show was literally his playfield where he excelled better than his siblings.

[@raibug3180]

Manifesting the gay fascist roman-ce plotline

[@Me-ip7tt]

All fascists are homophobic cos they’re in the closet, they hate women so who else are they gonna secretly lust after.

[@eugenia2682]

pretty sure those words together are the funniest thing i'll read for what's left of the year

[@eugenia2682]

@@goodfortune4317 i interpreted it as them feeling the power through their libido. as in the thrill they get from just being there, making some big choices makes them feel insatiable. what are they supposed to feel? happy? excited? that's not enough man

[@nizvkfb7vsbvrsct723]

@@goodfortune4317 dude stop copy pasting your shitty take over and over again. Its embarrassing

[@tiredfrog308]

@@goodfortune4317 What a chronically online take. Please interact with people offline, you’ll quickly see that you’re whining about a strawman. Kieran Culkin said it himself in the official HBO podcast: Roman Roy has been written as bisexual from season 1 ( it became “more complex than that” as his psychosexual desires were explored). The writers likely intended for there to be a degree of sexual tension between these characters as to a) elude back to Roman’s confusing sexuality, and b) encapsulate the seduction and radicalisation of predominantly rich white men into alt-right mindsets, and c) further their interesting power dynamic.

[@SeaBassTian]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought they have chemistry & were going to consummate the boys club.

[@BobbyEdwards-bu9lx]

"C'mon man. slowly....FUCK!" On a 0 to Diddy scale that was kind of up there

[@luisito2174]

Borko would be proud, Sir Complicated Airflow.

[@TuchNGoh]

3:00 - 3:10 is fucking poetry 😭 Dudes got a way with words.

[@Yeahyeahyeah912]

When Jaryd starts with the “40 guys in the back of a truck” rant I feel like I’m listening to James Spaders insane rants when he played Ultron in the second Avengers movie.

[@gregkut1]

Hahaha “creepin on the come up” Roman… great writing to come up with all these roundabout ways to say what they mean

[@lukeg1940]

Do people in the comments not realize this character is literally a fascist. None of the candidates were good but as much as I love Roman he is just as evil it seems

[@comsolo100]

Lol @ all the plebs not realising true fascism is a good thing

[@Suzanne4415]

Thank god someone is talking about the fascist part, jesus christ folks.

[@MrLogicalskill]

People don't realize how fucked up this scene is

[@naurrrre]

@@MrLogicalskill they didn’t fuck

[@jetblack8250]

@@comsolo100 the only good facist is a dead facist

[@G-Mulaa]

This prove Roman is more like his Father and isn't afraid to rub shoulders with potential future presidents

[@openeyefilms]

I love jeryd realizes at the end of this scene, flirting don’t work with Ro. Unless he acts like a dead body. I love the nervous silence moment w/the shaky “me…Roman?” response. Even when asked to fk, he can’t do it.

[@factor747]

I was thinking about this scene and I believe this season is about the rising for Roman and the downfall for Shiv.

[@Blashmack]

Shiv is going to be the next Kendall. He did say it to her face.

[@lindakachur4862]

Shiv' s downfall will be worse than Kendall's.

[@DLSacks]

10 days later...

[@ororomunroe4055]

This didn't age well

[@christiantorre1]

It took me a couple of close listens to fully grasp just how despicable what Menken was saying really was. Lol

[@Grsz11]

"Fundamentally alter its composition." Then again, you hear the same thing on Fox most nights.

[@Grsz11]

@AL What reality? I don't watch CNN

[@ljm792]

Like yes, Black America hasn't "put in". I guess being a slave on the farm doesn't count. I wanna fight this guy.

[@yaboobayyaboobay8191]

idk he made some good points

[@lucac.8022]

@@ljm792 i think he's referring to immigrants rather than black people

[@sgtlamancha805]

‘First you have to put in before you take out’. 🤔

[@bullbunnies]

Love that eye raise @ 3:23

[@wolfstar675]

"Fascists are kind of cool, but not really" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

The actor portraying Jaryd would make an excellent Annatar/Sauron

[@Sophie_kent]

Jaryd Mencken needs his own show. In the White House.

[@word1013]

amid infectious humor and easy banter burns a provocative idealism... also love the meticulous attempt to mollify the aridity of probing questions with sexual innuendo. Great Performance! Bravo!

[@factor747]

Im afraid this guy turns into a monster and destroy Waystar.

[@ChrisCrossAplsauce]

If it’s anything like reality, he won’t.

[@nizvkfb7vsbvrsct723]

god I hope so

[@Charles2.24]

I can very much see that! The silent storm!

[@jbrook1332]

Only episode I’ve rewatched multiple times

[@mischa1234]

Kudos to Andy for finally leaving the stoner life.

[@mopatk7435]

I KNEW I had seen him somewhere before. Dang. Good actor.

[@j_j8758]

What show you guys talking about??

[@calebduarte5255]

@@j_j8758 Weeds

[@cookie4049]

I just watched that and there was one scene where he said "I wanna be president" but I think he was in the netherlands to be fair