Romancing Saga 2: Last Battle (Extended Version)

[@darthwinsor]

Romancing Saga 2 is getting a full remake.

[@chaudspieler]

I never played the original so that makes me super excited to get the remake!! I will get the original as well! Playing the OG before the Remake will make it all the better!

[@AltairEgo1]

​@@chaudspielerJust warning you that Romancing Saga games can be quite cryptic, and can easily trip players up with some very different growth mechanics for characters. The game gets extremely hard and complex before long. If you're into that, then go with God. It's a lot like D&D. Very much a numbers game. If you're a pure numbers guy, you should enjoy this.

[@ivoryvt]

Honestly surprised at the amount of people sent here by Brutal Mario, myself included. I was expecting more people to be sent here by Romancing Saga 2. I'm even more surprised that the fanbase isn't trying to shoo away the Brutal Mario fans like most fanbases would. I guess that means this game has a good fanbase.

[@ivoryvt]

+NotARobot That could be true as well.

[@TheGamersBros1]

Acrylica Magica the game was Japanese exclusive and is a spin-off game originating from Final Fantasy Legends. It only recently came out remastered for iOS also in English now

[@drizzziit1]

"Isn't trying to shoo away the brutal mario fans" I saw a few of these actually.

[@chilly.chuy303]

The game brought me here.

[@chilly.chuy303]

wasn't FF japanese as well?

[@brandonwilliams6119]

The first place or time I heard this song was in Super Kitiku World where Mario Fought all 7 Koopalings and oh my gosh they looked realistic and creepy as HELL!! Hearing that song lead me here and I have no regrets on it.

[@retrogamelover2012]

+Brandon Williams Ditto.

[@jordanhaik6801]

+Brandon Williams same. :)

[@thehellslayer300]

Me too. However that fusion of the koopalings is an edited vesion of this games final boss called the 7 heroes

[@ben_bun]

I'm going to see if I can get someone to create an animation of that battle.

[@chilly.chuy303]

Dr Akumaro the characters that fought them theory were good or bad

[@crowiltiziodeltreno4177]

Roses are red Violets are blue Brutal Mario is a masterpiece And this game is too

[@StainedRevenant]

So, this was the theme used for that warped Koopling boss battle...

[@jogsi1558]

I think it was remixed to sound like it was from SMW

[@drizzziit1]

Ah yes, Super Kitiku Mario... Never to be finished... But you are right, this is where the theme... No, the whole boss comes from. A massive reference to this masterpiece of a game.

[@NoOne-us9xv]

That boss fight from the hack was so fucking clever. Romancing Saga 2 had the seven heroes who combine into one big meatball monster with seven torsos, for the final boss fight. There just happen to be seven koopalings too, so I guess he realized that lines up perfectly. Another really nice touch from that hack: This is all foreshadowed by the koopaling boss fights using the theme from this game that plays for the fights with any of the individual seven heroes. Such a cool easter egg for anyone that played RS2 and then also went on to beat Brutal Mario (all, uh, four or five of you, I guess).

[@StainedRevenant]

No One Interesting. I never researched the lore behind this battle, and it sounds like they did an excellent job capturing the original aesthetic.

[@derthevaporeon]

It was also in Rock Man Mind Roar, just unused because the game progression got cancelled at like 20% or something

[@appp0918]

無法言語形容的振奮!豪邁!激働!悲壯! 這就是傳奇的史詩 英雄豪傑巨擎的輓歌!!! 止不住的豪情壯志 卻也止不住的淚流滿面

[@chilly.chuy303]

I agree it is heavenly.

[@elvininoa3367]

Wagnas: You have come so very far. A pity that you shall go no further. Witness the strength of our bond, Emperor. Behold the power of our "Union"!

[@nanamocoa]

I think this song really scared me a whole lot more when I was a bit younger.. I first heard it from the super kitiku mario gameplay. and boy, I couldn't sleep without being scared those koopalings, thinking would show up in the corner of my room at any second..

[@javiervillalobos2480]

Dude I used to be fucking terrified of that video on KZbin with kaizo Mario world and this song, but honestly I have played romancing saga 2 and I can definitely vouch that it is a very good jrpg. As for kaizo Mario, we’ll I mean jrpg bosses just kinda built different I guess 😅

[@kirua258]

@@javiervillalobos2480 Well to be fair, even by JRPG standards, that final boss was pretty weird ^^"

[@salonius8462]

This brought me to the SaGa series... RS2 is still the best SaGa, gameplay-wise.

[@blara2401]

So epic...I think this is the most epic music I've ever heard. Seriously, I should play the game only to hear this. As difficult as it is. No need to say I don't know the game, of course, and no need to say I don't jnow anything on the diffculty either...

[@lunatic0verlord10]

Can't wait to see how they remix that in the remake.

[@Tonba1]

Been looking for this song for god knows how long

[@kimbuchmann]

OMG, I love this song so much >w

[@donboy65]

This sounds like it can be used for a battle against a villain played by Roger Moore, Patrick Stewart, Timothy Dalton, Judi Dench, Alan Rickman, Ian McKellan, Ian McDiarmid, James Earl Jones, Daniel Craig, Michael Caine, Michael Gambon, Christopher Plummer, Christopher Lee, Patrick Macnee, Leonard Nimoy, Sean Bean, Kenneth Branagh, Zachary Quinto, Jet Li, Sean Connery, Ian Holm, Pierce Brosnan, Jonathan Pryce, John Aniston, James Scott[ Ej Dimera] or Peter O'Toole. THAT'S how epic it can be!

[@therealseanw.stewart2071]

Got into this series thanks to a certain Japanese Mario World romhack. Here I am, 15 years later, an avid SaGa fan, and we're getting a remake of this classic game. Hopefully they will do the soundtrack justice, and this song in particular.

[@LinkZelda-zz2bh]

Hello

[@PK_Miracle]

Ah yes...the fabled "Brutal Mario"

[@mickbotcast]

Can't wait to see the combined form of 7 heroes in the remake !

[@mandalknight9930]

It's kind of underwhelming.

[@shockdrake]

This music is used in final Koopaling monster in Kitiku Mario

[@cherrybros3]

Wow this song sounds amazing maybe it could be used as a final boss theme on a mario world hack, wait.....

[@chilly.chuy303]

the romancing saga game series is like Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger.

[@gardeniachan8780]

Fun fact: SaGa trilogy(that one before Romancing SaGa) is named Final Fantasy Legend in the US. So technically RS trilogy is another FF

[@chilly.chuy303]

@@gardeniachan8780 So there both in the same universe?

[@gardeniachan8780]

@@chilly.chuy303 no, only the branding

[@omega197]

i guess chronodia in FF1 ports are inspired from this boss after all

[@DrGreen-ob6eb]

it's comin back guys

[@diegpe123]

Thanks Kitiku Mario

[@mcburn344]

Sounds like ff5 prelude to the void

[@cjowner99]

brutal mario

[@HiyokoSupiritto]

The remake is official!

[@KevintribaI]

Man fk this boss fight fr cant beat it in the remake with the freaking team attack is 7 againts 5 wtf😡

[@ArikGenerick]

You need help? I particularly found spells like hasten time, light wall 2 and firewall 2 super helpful. Also having a tank with auto parry, survivor and that skillsnthat has a 20% chance to negate an attack

[@KevintribaI]

​@@ArikGenericki ended up beating them after grinding hp up a bit and just casting the fire auto revive spell still fk that team attack lol

[@ArikGenerick]

@@KevintribaI the funny thing is that the final boss is easier on expert because there's a post game skill that double the united attack damage so you can kill it before all the heroes are even out of the ball lmao.

[@KevintribaI]

​@@ArikGenericknow im getting destroyed by the dread queens second form as soon as she gets to half hp she gets like 5 turns in a row😭

[@ArikGenerick]

@KevintribaI have you done the 7 heores refights? The stuff you get from the are really strong especially the ability that doubles the damage of united attacks.

[@yellowpig1026]

okay is there a single person that *isn't* here from brutal mario? because i'm not one of them, i only know this song from brutal mario lmao

[@greengardens6959]

Nah, known this before I know this OST is used in Brutal Mario. I had the game but the cartridge has long been broken 😔😔

[@jlin3038]

I have never heard of brutal mario lmao. Rsaga fans ftw

[@gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730]

i only found out about brutal mario's existence from this song's presence on youtube, to be honest with you, but i'm not really a romhack afficionado instead rather a SaGa afficionado, so

[@rpg_haven]

Nope. I'm just a big fan of Romancing SaGa 2. It has great music.

[@HiyokoSupiritto]

You're not the only one, I heard this when I played romancing saga 2 before that hack from super mario world

[@sneakygreeplanttt]

hopefully the new secret boss in the mario rpg remake is something from this series just to hear a remix of this (edit: rip my hopes and dreams lol)

[@masonasaro2118]

imagine if they actually did the brutal mario thing and had the koopalings fuse like the seven heroes did

[@SilentAbyss1996]

They better not mess this up in the remake...

[@koredju]

Kenji Ito, the composer is still alive and active. He made the ost of saga emerald beyond and he's far better than he was AT the Time. Search for RE:Birth 2 - last battle to hear his last version of the song. Amazing.

[@MetroidMan101]

I love this!

[@mish1195]

cool japanese smw port is cool

[@owm715]

超熱血的死鬥!!!!!!

[@someshyguy]

Brutal Mario sent me.

[@xris671]

why did tv tropes link me here

[@donboy65]

This sounds like a song that would be played when fighting a villain played by Patrick Stewart, Christopher Plummer, Zachary Quinto, Ian McKellan, Ian McDiarmid, James Earl Jones, Roger Moore, Sean Connery, Patrick Macnee, Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee, Leonard Nimoy, Christopher Lambert, Michael Gambon, Judi Dench, Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan, Timothy Dalton, or Anthony Hopkins.

[@rjeatstacos395]

donboy65 Yeah!

[@wicholokobs6952]

quien mas viene por fire emblem justice and pride?

[@Tacoradical]

Who knows of this win because of VIP4 or Brutal Mario?

[@Kiegas]

too awesome

[@takahirolionheart201]

This was made 30 years ago, not fade away.

[@jogsi1558]

So what's the story of the game? never played it before

[@greengardens6959]

Late but... I haven't played the ported version but the SNES version goes like this: The story starts off with a Bard starting his tale about the country he lived in, on how the empire turned into a commonwealth. It starts with an Emperor named Leon who was tasked to defeat the "returned" legendary seven heroes of Varenes (might be a different spelling from the official English translation) as they are not the real deal but mustn't be underestimated. The journey starts with his second son teaching him how to fight and defend the empire once his time has come and his older brother, the crown prince, needed his aid for possible war that they may face in the future. However, it wasn't long for the first prince, Victor, to die and Emperor Leon afterwards, forcing crown to the only living relative of the the two to the youngest member, Gerard. A witch also granted them a "heredity" ability, on which whoever is chosen as the next ruler, they will have both the abilities and memories of the previous emperor/empress. This will go on with several mission you'll face and facing some of the so called seven heroes until you reached the Emperor/Empress of your choice at the very start of the game, but will soon learn that the heredity ability have worn off and if he/she died, no one will be able to inherit the abilities. (Emperor is stronger in strength and have the Dayblade while Empress is stronger in magic and have the Moonblade.) Prolly should have put TL;DR at the bottom but yeah, the game is basically about killing the Demon versions of the Legendary Seven Heroes and your Rulers must defeat all of them (I think it took them a century for defeating all of them) xD

[@rayman3521]

Fun Fact: The Seven Koopalings battle is more well-known than the game that inspired it.

[@omega197]

> Re 2 remake Rated partial nudity Man idk, they all go nude in the final battle. Guess they wont make their final battle topless in the remake? Or maybe an entirely new form? they did add new final boss forms in saga 2 & 3 remake on ds ages ago iirc. We finally gonna see chronodia on switch it felt so unreal.

[@kaos5633]

It was me.

[@Gillian_Seed]

2 sounds like mexico and 3 sounds like egyptian desert

[@lennonlily]

Mandei o cutman ir pros quintos dos infernos

[@vargabin3296]

Good!

[@blara2401]

I did nickname it "Strange Heroes Crossover Shadowy Guy".

[@MrUltimo0000]

Eye doo!

[@roochman]

7 Heroes. It's name is 7 Heroes.

[@Eriienne]

VIP4 Version was better imo this is good but the VIP Mario its Awesome

[@L92970]

What brutal Mario remix not brutal Mario

[@TheJzygorodimos]

Final boss covid

[@ultimatefantasy3598]

nobuo uematsu ! is a genius !

[@BlueSavior25]

I don't think Nobuo did Romancing Saga 2's ost

[@ultimatefantasy3598]

Yep :D WIKI : Composer(s) Kenji Ito Nobuo Uematsu

[@Masterlink01]

Bahamut-X The only songs composed by Nobuo Uematsu were The Legend Begins and Heartful Tears, not to mention that this doesn't sound like his style at all.

[@DragonishChaosArt]

This was made by Kenji Ito...

[@Aristotle000001]

This was a year ago and I wanna jump in but I can't. And I was so proud to know Kenji Ito composed this. I guess it's an ok moment to say that after I heard the Romancing Sa Ga and Seiken Densetsu stuff, I can say Kenji Ito is my favorite Video Game song composer. But I give Nobuo Uematsu a little more credit for more diverse music.

[@PirateTitanOfficial]

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[@久保田勉-f5x]

愛新持栄隊総館超久保田勉ゲーム新大臣!安全自殺対策新大臣!地方活性化大臣!仕事対策新大臣!

[@1234567890Marioman]

Sooooo.... what's the name of that guy? You know, the final boss?

[@daragnarok]

The Blue Shedinja The seven heroes

[@drizzziit1]

TailsLover99 N...No. That's a reference to this game final boss, the seven heroes.

[@masonasaro2118]

@InsaneKorean77 no, but the sprite was an edit of 7 heroes, in romacing saga 2, they were former heroes (as the name implies) that turned evil and become the main villans of the game. the final boss was them fusing together into a giant tumor with the “heroes'” upper halves jutting out like limbs. mario's newfound special moves in brutal mario's spoof of this battle were all special moves/spells from the game.

[@lennonlily]

Eu odeio o cutman

[@blara2401]

Me...

[@Flashlight237]

Brutal Mario sent me.

[@adrianfranky222]

Brutal Mario sent me.

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

Kiku -chan RIP that ROM hack.