Rome Total War - TOP 10 INFANTRY UNITS

[@khorps4756]

"they will instantly destroy these romans before you can think" "let me put triple speed on, and there we go"

[@zer-ok9sn]

Relatively speaking :P

[@zakback9937]

I wonder how the hell?!

[@julianusvatinius4479]

I Think Prophet Of The Spaghetti Is Looking For You. Also Can't Change My Name For 90 Days :(

[@gavinnaab9841]

Khorps ur sooooo right lol

[@nigelmariocampbell]

Haha I laughed at that too

[@Romaboo680]

He forgot the clear #1 choice: Eastern Infantry

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

It’s true!

[@vesai1]

Peasants are clearly the superior unit

[@Baby_Baller]

Yeah eastern infantry is 1 because it determines the ability of other units based on how many of eastern infantry can the unit route 😂

[@GothicKnight2]

The Urban Cohorts were historically the police and fire brigade of Rome; the Praetorian Guard was the Emperor's elite unit.

[@janehrahan5116]

police, fire brigade, and garrison. The last part is what is used to justify their stats.

[@matthew_turkmen7482]

Urban cohorts were created as a counterweight to power of praetorian guards

[@alphanost806]

More police than fire brigade, if i'm not mistaken the Vigiles were fire brigade, they were also there to counterweight the power of the pretorian guard.

[@florians9949]

Well, that was until the praetorians decided to be king makers.

[@Casketkrusher_]

We already know.

[@louisayers3477]

I built my Greek empire on armoured hoplites 👌

[@selder_7]

Louis Ayers well yeh, that's what you're supposed to do and what the Greeks did do 😂

[@noscope7809]

Nelf123 Lol yepe

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Armoured Hoplites are all you need. Early game they dominate everything and are recruitable from turn 4.

[@ddoomsday7313]

I have made it too and greeks was the 1st who conquered the known world for me

[@marktaylor6491]

And backed up by Cretan Archers.

[@gooscarguitar]

"Basically the gladiators of Rome Total War" What are Samnite, Velite and Mirmillo Gladiators then?

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+FlipUltraHD You got me there!

[@anthonyteasley3837]

think of it like red beats green. green beats blue. and blue beats red

[@PanzerCrewman]

Slaves

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Thats what i thought also

[@desertigloo2383]

Gladiators from gladiators

[@grendo45]

17:15 "they are the gladiators of rome total war" there are literal gladiators in rome total war too lol

[@3verlong]

yeah, one type for each roman house minus the senate

[@whoatemyhummus]

Berserkers are my favorite because they have attitude.

[@randomuruk7230]

my fav unit is screeching women

[@footballmylife9244]

whoatemyhummus I’m with you

[@randomuruk7230]

@Transylvanian MGTOW monk the OG Karens

[@justintimeagain2341]

I once annihilated a full balanced Roman army played by my older brother in custom with just berserkers. They are seriously undefeatable against everything except for horse archers and war elephants.

[@RoulicisThe]

Correction : axes in Rome TW (as in medieval 2) have "armor piercing". They don't divide the ennemy defense by 2, they simply ignore the "armor" stat of the unit in question, which means that for this unit : a scored HIT ends up always as a scored KILL on any unit, even the most armoured ones like legionnaries. Edit : it's 3 years later now, and I've realised that my comment was actually wrong. Sorry about this mistake

[@male_maid5951]

unless they have 2hitpoint... looking at the bull warriors which weirdly were not on this list...

[@luisnovais4288]

@@male_maid5951 i don't mind missing that one unit, its just stupid of how OP they are

[@cobrazax]

are you sure they ignore all armor? i think they ignore half of the armor.

[@RoulicisThe]

@@cobrazax As the comment was made 3 years ago I wasn't expecting to get another answer. But yes I did make a mistake here (and didn't know back then). In Rome and Medieval 2, "armor piercing" trait cuts the armor value of the target by half, not ignore it completely. It was a mistake on my part that I had forgotten I made. Thank you for reminding me of it, I'll put an edit on the main comment ^^

[@cobrazax]

@@RoulicisThe I see. So basically the reason they are so deadly vs armored troops, is that their armor is much less useful, and the axemen attack is very high. Also flanking attacks would be especially deadly as the shield and defense skill would be much lower.

[@thelouster5815]

YES, ARMORED HOPLITES! I absolutely love these guys. Versatile, cheap, look amazing, and amazing against all kinds of units including cavalry and most forms of infantry.

[@MrTann2010]

In campaign they are good overall however they lose to legionary cohorts ( with the correct tactic) royal pike sacred band urban and Spartans and get routed extremely easily by hammer and anvils

[@RJALEXANDER777]

I won the game once, only producing armoured Hoplites. Haha.

[@phanhuyduc2395]

@@MrTann2010 With just a line of Phalanx Center you can afford mass troops on the the either flank to overload it then cause mass rout

[@ImadZeryouh]

I remember my first contact with naked fanatics. Lets just say 4 units of town watch went crying to their mommy by just 1 unit.

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

Town watch are just fodder units :)

[@princeofcarthage6175]

+Biscuits Total War urban cohorts will always beat spartans on equal ground.

[@princeofcarthage6175]

+Biscuits Total War and AI is dumb which is why you got those odd victory's. non-upgraded spartans will always beat gold-gold Royal pikemen.

[@intruder4635]

Imados 009

[@ravenwing199]

Non Upgraded Spartans will lose to Royal Pikes they have less defense worse attack and are outnumbered by 50%.

[@DIY_Miracle]

Decimate means to destroy 1/10. It annoys me. Pls don't hate me.

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Couch ! no hate, only love here.

[@AI-cp1jg]

Steamed Hams Yes, you are right. That was the original meaning. However, like a lot of things it's gotten bastardized over time. These it's used almost synonymously with destroyed. I am not saying that's good or bad. It's how things change over time thru wrong usage.

[@Tapiola666]

No, what annoys you is that you think you have learned what 'to decimate' means, and you like to tell people that decimate means to kill 1/10th. Except in modern day English, according to online dictionary, the definition is this: 1. kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of. "the inhabitants of the country had been decimated" 2. historical kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group. "the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a large body of mutineers" Do you notice how your #2 definition is #2 and not #1? Why do you think this is? I'll tell you. Because most people use decimate to mean the first definition. And not the 2nd. Yes, the 2nd definition was the original meaning of the word. Except languages change and words change. So next time you decide to be cool and tell people that decimate means to kill off 1/10th, please remember that that's only one of the meanings and that words can have different definitions and that you're being nothing but an arrogant shit who thinks he needs to lecture people on the word decimation. So next time just shut up instead of being only quasi correct in your shitty arrogant statement.

[@johnyoutuber9781]

Tapiola666 Man, i must gently beg you to cool down, just a bit. This is not the case to get heated up ok? 👍

[@frisianmouve]

@@johnyoutuber9781 Yeah, his language was too much, but he's correct with the definitions

[@StoicMind17]

He didnt put spartan hoplites in phalanx formation before attacking , well its like using spartan hoplites at 50% of their potential

[@philpants44]

@@FaravusGaming "redonculous" is the best word ever!

[@hvcskmagyar]

@@FaravusGaming well of course Spartans borned for war If they ever need to retreat they won't, they fight to death or never be a spartan ever again only if they heroicly die at battle they get rememberd as spartans

[@jothegreek]

eastern infantry the best infantry of the game regarding cost

[@theefactor1360]

nah town watch are better

[@thefightingfedora2976]

I love pairing Eastern Infantry with a decent mercenary javelin unit at its back, Cilician Pirates preferably so they can wade in after.

[@FrankCastle-tq9bz]

You mean those units with little to no armor, weak offensive stats and poor morale? The only advantage they have is manpower and that can be blunted quickly even by some of Rome's weakest units (like hastatit).

[@MrKingoffire]

Frank Castle wooooosh

[@Mikeylee4]

11:20 u didnt even have the spartans spears down, not fair

[@orwasaker3913]

exactly my thought, I went into comments just looking for this comment

[@Joker-yw9hl]

I'm late af but if you go a few seconds earlier you can see the Spartans are in phalanx, but phalanx units often break phalanx formation and fight with swords

[@tinyhiny0913]

Phalanx units drop their phalanx if they get too low in numbers. And as you can see early enough they dont have the numbers needed for staying in phalanx long enough

[@leroyjenkins7108]

The ai dropped them out of phalanx right before they engaged if it was a person Spartans would of stayed in formation and would have been a lot more effective

[@MattyMadderzz]

This happened because the Macedon unit uses a pike not a spear and the pike is longer, it’s historical, it’s what Phillip and Alexander built their empires with

[@flankme4504]

Biscuit !! You forgot the pigs !! Numidian is gonna be so angry now ..

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Flank Me Get ready for the 10 WOREST units in Rome Total War!

[@flankme4504]

ahahahah

[@hoihoi726]

Pigs are going to be number one in top 10 cavalry mate.

[@08-145]

I built my hole empire on the legionary cohort they will always have a special place in my heart.

[@geediali9941]

Soldat lol same

[@GooseGumlizzard]

so did Ancient Rome

[@FrankCastle-tq9bz]

Same here - they are very cost effective and easier to retrain after multiple engagements than their urban counterparts.

[@mattphillips2844]

In the early game the falxmen trained with Ares with Thrace are unbeatable when you use them with miltia cav. They can be recruited in large towns and no other unit at that level can handle them. You can take 50 settlements so fast you don’t even need minor cities or higher to dominate. And they can be retrained on the fly since most places taken are at least a large town.

[@trump-totalwar6509]

Is that right?

[@mattphillips2844]

@@trump-totalwar6509 Yeah Falxmen take losses but slice through everything in the early game. If you play 100% aggressive offense in the beginning they will get some experience which then allows you to just auto resolve one battle after another and replenish the ranks with only a barracks so you can keep rolling. I was fighting Macedon, Bruttii and the Greek all at the some time still beat all of them.

[@Gunpowderpatron]

You're list makes sense for online play, but I feel like recruitment time, location, and building needs should be addressed too. Spartans can only be built in Sparta and Syracuse, which means you can't take them on campaign and replenish them. Sacred Band and Berserkers both need temples to construct. I have never once recruited an Urban Cohort in an actual campaign because of how expensive an Urban Barracks is - compare this to Praetorian Cohorts which come with EVERY huge city. Royal Pikes, Silver/Bronze Shields take 2 turns to recruit versus 1 turn for Phalanx Pikemen - 2v1, my money is on the pikemen that can turn a flank. Top 3 in my opinion: Chosen Axemen (Monster Can Openers), Armored Holpites (Laughs in Damage Resistance), Praetorian Cohort (Fabulous Stats, easy recruitment)

[@jonsnow7092]

more than that, the real cost of a unit is its upkeep. sure, doom stacks of cohorts or elephants are fun but when you can field multiple endgame barbarian armies at the price of 1 doomstack, you get infinitely more value on the campaign map. and in terms of efficiency, even on harder difficulties, a chosen swordsmen + chosen archers + a bit of cav will wreck even the lategame roman armies, if properly used. if you play thrace, the bastarnae have an upkeep of only 130 denarii. the 2 hit points means that they don't die fast or against pillum attacks and once they engage, their massive damage will destroy anything. due to the 2HP, armor upgrades and XP are twice as valuable meaning that they become unbeatable beasts once you get in high silver-gold XP range. good morale (that can even be improved by thracian temple), fast moving so you can outflank any other infantry and bonus in woods and snow. once you get these guys in gold XP, they will mow down pretorians and urbans, elephants and any phalanx, regardless of enemy troop XP or upgrades. all that for 130 denarii. this has to be the most OP unit in the game in terms of effectiveness.

[@jmk3723]

The legionary cohorts are amazing too… kinda made me sad they were low on the list. Yeah their stats are a little worse than the urban or praetorian cohorts, but they cost significantly less to upkeep… like 300+ per turn for Urban and praetorians, while legionary cohorts are only 210 denarii per turn. Plus they can be recruited almost anywhere late game as level 3 city barracks are all that’s needed. Granted, praetorians can as well. Though the extra point of defense and attack for an additional 100 gold per turn isn’t worth it, though urban cohorts are the coolest looking division. Lastly legionaries only take 1 turn to make while the others take 2… and the legionaries also have the first cohort which is nice numbers wise but only recruitable in Rome

[@qwidium]

8:15 are you kiding me? what kind of test is this? 11:09 again.

[@josephspruill4199]

Right attacking from the rear wtf

[@frosty2461]

Fun fact berserkers can beat elephants

[@mmartinisgreat]

Irl too

[@NeroGG_]

No

[@Ugh718]

Well duh chariots can aswell lol

[@patrickdc8396]

The Spartan hoplites didn't have spears down against the Macedonian Pikemen no?

[@AudieHolland]

When I wasn't playing as the Romans, the best unit overall was: Iberian infantry. Only average stats but they're dirt cheap and the enemy never has an army full of elite units. Of course, use only in combination with decent archers/slingers and some cavalry to flank the enemy unit or hit them in the back. Iberian infantry will not last for long but who cares if you've got loads of them. Then, after the bloody battle has been won, comes the most important phase: rebuilding your units. Elite units can only be rebuilt in special, high tier barracks. Iberian infantry can be rebuilt in basically any town of importance. If you can only win with elite units, there's something wrong with your tactics. And like I said, strategically, you cannot do much about rebuilding elite units when campaigning far away from home. Iberian infantry are like the Yari Ashigaru of mediëval Japan, any poor sod can be trained to join the Iberian infantry! We need men. They will keep on fighting! Join the Iberian infantry now!!

[@theterrobear2716]

I remember playing as the romans and after the marian reforms, i had this immense stubborness to build 4-5 armies full of newly recruited legionaires.At that point i had to face Egypt who to my happiness really challenged me (basically captured everything east of italy by 240 bc which is amazing even for a player) and after 10 battles i found myself needing to repplenish my armies in italy.Egypt got the upper hand and i got to win the fight after a 8 year old war with egypt.Looking back i would definetly build "some" armies made of auxilia maybe early cohorts but still, playing an entire game with light infantry gets almost impossible in late game

[@theterrobear2716]

@@URUNicoM marian reform troops are buffed a lot compared to other factions units.It s not fun for me if i spam armies with same troops, try diversity and counter tactics even if it s not as quick it s more fun.

[@LyricalDJ]

They're okay. But If you rely on these to win your battles then you need to switch up your tactics because otherwise they're going to lose hard if they're coming up against other early game units like hastati, Gemanic spear warband and early hoplites. All of which I'd pick before Iberian infantry.

[@AudieHolland]

@@LyricalDJ Are you talking to me? Anyway, Iberian infantry, like Yari Ashigaru, don't have impressive stats. The only way I used them (as I do use other cheap infantry) is to keep the enemy occupied untill I could flank him with a cavalry unit or some other fast, maneuverable unit. If we're talking about best unit in the game, that's easy. All cavalry armies. And unlike in reality, you can keep changing direction, re-attack while retreating etc. etc. Cavalry in RTW are basically super genius smart missiles like in Hollywood movies.

[@cobrazax]

for holding the line for a bit, sure. anything longer than that and they will break quickly. they cannot survive much or kill much.

[@Userius1]

The axe doesn't divide defense in half. It only affects the armor stat. So say you're using Chosen Axemen against a unit that has 8 armor, 10 defense skill, and 5 shield (total 23 defense), the axe, with its armor piercing attribute with reduce the armor to 4, making the enemy be at 19 total defense.

[@NinjaSushi2]

Effective vs armor means they ignore the armor Stat but not the defense stat. I think shield only matters with arrows.

[@Userius1]

@@NinjaSushi2 That's correct...wait didn't I just see you somewhere

[@trump-totalwar6509]

@@Userius1 you ok?

[@Userius1]

@@trump-totalwar6509 Nope 🤪 wbu?

[@cobrazax]

@@NinjaSushi2 i dont think they ignore armor...just half of it. shields works vs any attack from the front and sides from the sides i think less. defense skill is useless vs arrows.

[@AI-cp1jg]

No love for Bull Warriors?

[@willmacnaughton5988]

I think he's being sarcastic bud. Bull warriors are so shit it's pretty much a meme in the Rome total war community

[@kennedyshotfirst2534]

@@borntofart Recruiting cost may be high, but it doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the upkeep which at 200 is dirt cheap

[@699CHIP]

Ramadan Steve they do have 2 hit points and really strong javelins. That’s their strong points but too expensive for online play

[@sexyborabo2842]

Berserkers are broken af, they should be first

[@justpassingthrough686]

FINALLY

[@MrTann2010]

No they still get wrecked by any pike that is stronger than a levy pike

[@Kha-Beleth]

There's a video where a unit of berserkers absolutely annihilates Macedonian Royal Pikemen: /watch?v=7tUl-0kFIo4

[@MrTann2010]

I should rephrase my sentence. A beseker will get annihilated by somebody who knows how to play pikes.. The AI's formation was too thin

[@karlvallerand1004]

They dont have defence they get fucked by every missile and cav , and once you give an order they dont obey to you anymore ( even if your order is the war cry) and they are really coslty. So yeah not so great in my opinion

[@LI0022]

My list would be: 1. Urban Cohort (versatile, good value, OP?) 2. Sacred Band Hoplites (good value again, somewhat underrated by many) 3. Royal Pikemen (Best long pikes in the game, makes Macedon special) 4. Spartans (dominates high denarii games and still used lower money) 5. Legionaries (versatile, good value) 6. Silver Shield legionaries (as above, good combo with SS pikes in 31K) 7. Bronze Shield Pikemen (Not overpriced Silver Shield Pikes, second best long pikes in game after Royal PIkemen) 8. Armoured Hoplites (Good value) 9. Phalanx Pikemen (Good value, Thrace's only decent unit) 10. Berzerkers (Carries Germania as a playable faction in high denarii games) Honorable Mention: Praetorian Cohort (just doesn't see enough play to warrant a spot, overshadowed by Urbans.) I still like your list :) Chosen axemen were way overrated but the rest were pretty good!

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Kim JongLi Chosen Axemen only cost 580. They have warcry and amour armour piercing axe - (18 attack, 6 defence, 5 charge). I shouldn’t need to sell this unit to you, it sells its self!!I did give the praetorian cohort a mention, but why would you pick them when you can have an Urban. In my honest opion I think the praetorian cohort should have been the Urbans. There no need for Rome to have both Urbans and praetorians.

[@LI0022]

Biscuits Total War The Chosen Axemen are only good against Rome. Think about it; only against Rome. Against almost every other faction they lose out. Allow me to list some examples: Egypt=insta lose, Armenia=loses to pikes (even though their pikes are bad), Britannia= loses to chars and hurlers (insta lose), Macedon= loses to pikes, Greece= loses to pikes, Parthia= loses to missiles, Scythia= loses to missiles, Pontus= (Insta lose). TLDR; On paper, Chosen axemen are great, but in practise, they suffer against too many common pike and missile units to be of good use in multiplayer. One of the reasons Germania suffers in MP is because Chosen Axemen are the only filler units available, and it is because they are forced to rely on Chosen Axemen in 31K that Germania is so difficult to pilot.

[@LI0022]

On high denarii or big unit sizes, definitely.

[@alstongaillard9749]

I agree that the Urban Cohort is the best infantry unit but I think that it could be the Spartan Hoplites if they could be recruited anywhere.

[@cobrazax]

ideally also if they had decent armor...

[@janbazuine6636]

Spartan hoplites take two turns to recruit and are more than twice as expensive as armoured hoplites, while not being twice as good. Armoured hoplites are objectively a superior unit

[@WorkDayPegasus]

"these guys are basicly the gladiators of rome total war" when you said that, you lost all respect 17:15

[@caleb4369]

workdaypegasus well he probs did just make a mistake

[@Dan-uf2vh]

the urban cohort is NOT the most cost effective (and they take tremendous building progress to make) and it takes 2 turns to train; the most cost effective are the legion (get out 10 legions before your first urban cohort) and the armored hoplite (which is even accessible on turn 5 by building a barracks upgrade in Sparta); also in a straight up fight spartan vs urban (grass flatland) the spartan will win with an average of 8 men lost out of 80 which means they steamroll the urban is a straight fight (70+ out of 80 men remaining with the urbans routing on several men left)

[@SteelFlesher]

Yep if u have alot of archer auxilla with flames on and like 5 legionnaries u can destroy anything lmao

[@Triplebrc]

I would have taken one of the phalanx units out to pick Forester Warbands. These guys are ridiculously good and pretty cheap for what they do, most people tend to forget about them though. They are basically the best archers in the game while also packing a serious melee punch, and they use spears in melee so they can even be a threat to non elite cavalry.

[@male_maid5951]

they arent infantry tho, their ranged.

[@Triplebrc]

@@male_maid5951 Infantry means troops that are fighting on foot. Soldiers using machine guns are technically ranged, yet are still referred to as infantry, as the ranged infantry is a sub species of the common infantry.

[@ajaxtelamonian5134]

Yeah Foresters are fantastic I've turned a battle using them a few times.

[@jamiengo2343]

Legionairy Cohorts are the standard, solid troops that can be used. The Urban Cohort guarded Rome essentially and were created by Emperor Augustus in an attempt to balance the Praetorian Guard

[@mazozpk]

Great Jamie why balance?

[@zabaleta66]

My best non-archer infantry units. All the Roman units from early legionary cohort up (not including auxilia spearmen [hopeless]; Spanish bull warriors; later Spartan phalanx infantry units; Bastarnae; Dacian/Thracian falxmen; Illyrian mercenaries and the ubiquitous barbarian mercenaries.

[@Abb0able]

Hastati and light cavalry for me... so cheap... i always run into problems when that n00b Marius decides to reform my ultra fast cheap zerg rush armies in the middle of a blitz campaign :(

[@daniellclary]

I just started playing the remasted game. At the moment I am using Archers and War Dogs. The dogs apparently are treated like ammo. So you just sent them out, and at the end of the battle you get them back. I'm been winning many battles with no loses.

[@theefactor1360]

what about spanish bull warriors

[@randomuruk7230]

they are similar cost to spartans and are only slightly better then urban cohorts

[@theefactor1360]

their basically chosen swordsmen that throw javelins, btw urban cohort are slightly better

[@MAKGaming30]

True they are awesome unit, I also posted a similar comment I hadn't seen yours I'm not copying lol

[@zabaleta66]

Wholly formidable! Tremendous stamina.

[@thomashuffcutt9414]

Mine: 10. Militia hoplite 9. Spear Warband 8. Screeching Women 7. Druid 6. Triarii 5. Bull Warriors 4. Armoured Hoplite 3. Arcanii(for coolness) 2. Spartan Hoplite 1. Berserkers I love berserkers, hate Legionnaires.

[@PanzerShrek94]

I never liked Hoplites because they simply can't hold their phalanx.even if they get attacked(or are attacking) they break their phalanx and use swords.how hard is it to hold the line with spears pointing forward?i especially hate it when horses attack you and they take the initial charge but immediately go sword against a horse.

[@frisianmouve]

Urbans get 2 more attack and 1 more defense over praetorians, but somehow they also get more stamina and morale than the praetorians. Urbans all the way

[@01RickFGS01]

Agree with most choices for online battles with limited money.In campaign however the best will be: Armored Hoplites, Greeks strategic location can generate the most money per turn in the game, armored are cheap, one turn build and greek cities are easy to get gold-gold upgrades, sacred bands come close but they take 2t to build. Spartans are too expensive, take 2 turns and the maintnence cost is huge, for the romans the best in campaign is legionary first cohort and praetorian cohort, the first carries the eagle, arrives at a good time in the game and carries mores troops, thus more pila, the second gives more quality for less money and can handle missile fire, very good stamina and can take on heavy fortified enemy positionsI learned this playing multiplayer huge scale campaigns against other people, the money per turn greeks can conger in the agean as no match in the game

[@angquangnguyenthac2833]

For Rome: Pre-Marian: Hastati (dirt cheap, big shield so good against missiles and resistance against charge (9 def) having pila to beat down most armored infantry and sometimes even chariots/cavalry, tend to survive long enough to get vet status) Post-Marian: Legionary cohort (everything Hastati is but with more armor and testudo) Preatarian cohort for extra bulk and damage.

[@cobrazax]

@@angquangnguyenthac2833 i have no idea what the charge thing u r talking about. missile resistance is the defense without defense skill. against charge its the normal defense.

[@MojoDevirus]

OOhhhhhhh man. I played Rome Total War for years. Great game !!!!!

[@MarcelJ.]

I once had the luck of accidentally destroying a well put together full army with 20 units with only two units of Berserkers. I don't know how, don't know why, but it worked.

[@SpaceMeister790]

Preatorioan/Urban cohort: exist Me: *Laughs in onager*

[@georgyzhukov6409]

11:25 lol the spartans didnt even use phalanx no wonder they got destroyed

[@johnirby8847]

Triarii are pretty OP if you play them well. They destroy cav and can go 1v1 with later Marian reform units. Try a gold/gold Triarii against a gold/gold urban or royal pikes and you'll see some interesting results.

[@roberttaylor3118]

actually, the silver shield legionaries have the same attack and defense stats as the Roman legionary cohort, but it actually costs slightly less: 710 to Rome's 740. the Armenian and numidian legionaries, though, are on par with the Roman principes, and they also can not form testudo. however, while the numidian unit is slightly more than the principe's cost, the Armenian is 440, significantly cheaper than the principe's 490. while these units are decent on their own, they are really used to guard the flanks and form the mobile arm of the lines of heavy spearmen, protecting the cataphracts until the best moment for them to flank.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Only problem with the silver legionaires is they take two turns to recruit. So in the campaign they'll always be out-produced by the Romans, same with Silver pikemen. So its necessarily to bulk one's armies up with some levies and regulars.

[@caltasker2320]

How many times can you say cost effective in a 20 minute video haha

[@aintnoslice3422]

I remember requesting this. Thanks Biscuit you legend. Cavalry, Skirmishes and factions next.

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Ain't no Slice I will work on some more. I have a little speadsheet to help me work out the value / stats of different units. Sad I know! :P

[@volkanerkut1045]

Best infantry units IMO: Spartan Hoplites: Phalanx form and superior morale. They fight until last man falls. Bull Warriors: One of the best late game unit. But they can be recruited from only shitty Spain. Excellent morale and high javelin damage. Pharaohs Guards: One of the best phalanx unit. They deal superb damage. Falxmen: Oh baby! I love these maniacs. Berserker: Berserk mode can vanish all legionaries. But they are extremely vulnerable to ranged attacks. Don't use them while storming to the walls. Watchtowers will consume them. Urban Cohort: Historically wrong but best unit in the game. They can vanish infantry, ranged units, cavalry all types of units. Javelin damage is even better than Bull Warriors.

[@akush42069]

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[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

Thanks for your support.

[@akush42069]

Your welcome:)

[@HolyknightVader999]

Armored Hoplites and Urban Cohorts would've made for one mean tag team combo.

[@danielbalderrama4137]

sacred band can not beat Spartan hoplites but they can last a while until Carthage cavalry comes to the rescue.

[@randomuruk7230]

for the same cost they can

[@danielbalderrama4137]

Oisin Mullarkey. Not really, Spartans have that slight edge over every other phalanx unit. kind of like cataphract maces against cavalry

[@MPMetti]

it is good but i think the chosen swoedsman are batter than the axe man i think ;D nice vid

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Meti TV Gamer thanks for checking out the video. no love for the chosen axemen then?1

[@GabrielWard2001]

Well done, the video was great

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Gd Ward (Vengeance208) Cheers mate, I'm glad you liked it. Are there any units you would have in the list that I didn't mention?

[@GabrielWard2001]

I don't know, I don't really have a top unit/units. I think they all serve even peasants for just disrupting a charge. But maybe chariots or cataphracts

[@GabrielWard2001]

+Gd Ward (Vengeance208) face palm, it was infantry units only lol...

[@dominusofficial7290]

just woke up and new video ready lol

[@jeremykun934]

the choosen axemen have a funny weakness bec. they are strong at enemy powerful units and their weakness is weak units too bec. they dont have high armor like falxmen, bastarnae and other units that have high damage but low armor

[@planetarian3080]

Or you just throw arrows at them and they just drop dead

[@gertmoelders8809]

The idea that hoplites beat pikes from the front is so dumb to me

[@АлекСандр-т7э3т]

Chosen axemen is the one infantry unit that can destroy urban cohort 1v1, spartans are the one unit that can destroy every one if they can from a closed circle of falangs, but... honestly, they all can be fucked by arrow fire, archers rule this game

[@male_maid5951]

bull warriors upgraded beat urban cohort upgrade as well

[@Hisnalakrad]

I love sacred band, heres the problem, you have to survive long enough as carthage to get them

[@stephenhartley2853]

your point about the heavy axemen halving the enemy defence is not true. it is only the armour and possibly the shield rating that is halved. melee defence is unaffected by bonus against armour

[@slimegoop9853]

What about the Egyptian Royal guard pikemen guys? I find them to be very cheap and pretty effective in MP, unless they come under missed fire.

[@kylebeavan62]

I definitely agree on the legionary cohort 👍👍

[@MAKGaming30]

Top 10 Infantry in Rome Total War. 1 . Roman Legionnaire's 240 unit from Rome. 2 .Spanish bull Warriors. 3. Armoured urban cohort . 4.Royal Macedonian pikemen. 5 .Silver shield and bronze pikemen. 6 spartan hoplites. 7 .Sacred band. 8.Berserkers 9. Chosen axemen. 10. Greek armoured hoplites.

[@MAKGaming30]

Top 10 Rome Total War factions. 1. The Macedonia 2. The Seleucids 3.The Brutii 4.The Scipii 5.The Pontus 6.The Egyptians 7.The Julii 8.The Carthaginians 9.The Greeks 10.The Spanish

[@manicoasis4200]

Myles Kelly Either *The MacedonianS or Macedon. But yeah, they are the best.

[@typicallynotawake9911]

My ROMAN list 1. Early legionary cohort (may be expensive but still awesome) 2. First Early legionary cohort ( same as 1 but less defense) 3. Praetorian cohort (cost effective in my opinion) 4. Urban cohort (cost effective in my opinion also good garrison 5. Triarii (good for their time) 6. Principe (cost effective for time) 7. Legionary cohort ( cost effective 8 Velite gladiator (good flank cover) 9. Early legionary cohort (cost effective) 10 wardogs (yes it is infantry since it doesn’t ride anything)(oh baby it’s really thicc

[@Dimitrakoulas22]

hey guys there is a little misunderstanding here...the fellow combines the effectiveness of each unit compared to its cost....this does not mean that the sacred band is better than the spartan hoplites or the silver shields less effective than the spartans....if you put for example the sacred band against spartans they will be decimated by the spartans...or the royal pikemen,...i think the most effective unit no matter its cost are the spartans , the silver shields,the royal pikemen and the legionary fisrt cohort....i have tasted them many times with each other and they are evenly matched in many times..

[@theefactor1360]

urbans are better than spartans

[@samuellamaey9723]

Where are the Bull Warriors of Spain Army they are the BEST EVER

[@chad1316]

I would have been surprised if you didn't have the armoured hoplites.

[@bosnjakkevin]

Loved it!

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Baaws ! thanks mate.

[@elijah4606]

Playing as Scythia now and I laugh at all infantry. If the enemy has no cavalry or war dogs, I will have less than 50 casualties. Archers with long range projectiles are probably the most dangerous infantry unit to horse archers. Everything else can be worn out and then routed easily, which is why all armies ought to use cavalry. If you have no cav, it doesn't matter how good your infantry are you're going to lose against a cav-heavy force.

[@mercurius1877]

What about the Spanish bull warriors?

[@frituurpan31]

Trash for their cost

[@Summercamp1sland]

I have never seen the sacred band beat the Spartans before I just did a test one Spartan vs one sacred band and the sacred band did good but still lost killing 90 Spartans and losing 140

[@AnvilMAn603]

legionary > praetorian/urban not just because of cost but because of where you can replenish it as well

[@Scramble77]

This is bias. The unit you wanted to win had more experience as shown by the tiny flags above their heads so it was a unfair when they fought.

[@julianspeckner]

this is a list about costeffectivness.. he spend the same amount of money

[@Achilles32131]

Yes and also the units he wanted to win were almost always on a hill and had a gravity bonus But still a good, fun, video and it got my like :)

[@Levendor]

@@Achilles32131, Oh gravity, thou are a heartless bitch!

[@MrDarkcrap]

Hey biscuits, do you have any tips for playing against Rome as a phalanx faction? It seems like all the time Rome out-maneuvers me.

[@canaanmyskowski5223]

+MrDarkcrap Depends, what rule set/scale do you play?

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+MrDarkcrap Hey MDC! Is this in 31K or in cwb rules or just anything?

[@MrDarkcrap]

Biscuits Total War 15k CWB

[@thelouster5815]

Kaiser_1488 Protecting your phalanx's flanks is your top priority. I suggest having a second line behind a phalanx wall and cavalry in the sides for defensive purposes.

[@tomaszlosinski875]

noob square. Put all your phalanx units in a square with archers in the middle and watch the slaughter commence.

[@aintnoslice3422]

What about the Bastarnae? (14 attack, 6 charge, 2 hit points)?

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Ain't no Slice There cost puts me off them (790 ) plus I don’t think they have warcry. If you compare them to Chosen Axemen at 580, plus their warcry and amour armour piercing axe - (18 attack, 6 defence, 5 charge).

[@mrarjaro]

Spain's Bull Warriors bro. Brutal unit

[@Battle_Brother-e3v]

Could You do a top 10 factions video Bades in comepetitive Multiplayer with Standard rules?

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Clemens Rieckert cwb rules?

[@nathanapplegate5374]

Berserkers are OP to the point of being broken. Urban cohorts are no match. Spartans are no match.

[@TheDexa88]

Where is Pharaoh Guards?!!!? Those guys are pain in the ass

[@raymondcz2361]

Urban Cohorts are historicall unit, but in the reality they were composed of mens who doesnt made it into legions.

[@danielbalderrama4137]

Spartan hoplites do not beat urban cohorts unless in a city setting, Urbans found it easy to outrank a tight formation phalanx. Also Spartan hoplites non upgraded can beat gold gold royal pikemen for some strange reason. Biscuits probably modded his pikemen stats.

[@randomuruk7230]

no i can beat them also spartans do beat urban cohorts

[@jackurquhart7994]

i think levy pikemen are fairly decent, while they are nothing compared to the ones on this list they are the backbone of my thracian army and have helped me take greece, due to there ok cost, large unit size and long pikes

[@theefactor1360]

i think u mean phalanx pikemen

[@cobrazax]

they dont have levi pikemen, only militia hoplites and phalanx pikemen. the pikemen are solid, especially when supported by the other deadly thracian infantry.

[@artemchinakov9646]

I’d put night raiders somewhere in top-10 as well. Those are insane and cheap as dirt

[@trump-totalwar6509]

Word warriors

[@richiesmith223]

Have you tried putting your Spartans in phalanx mode?😅

[@DomMarmelo]

i wish this game will stop crashing :(

[@jasondoherty7497]

This is helpful for when you play and fight these factions thanks for the tips If these units r as effective in total war rome 2 divide et impera against other units will make a great army

[@arkabrataacharjee5399]

cohorts and auxiliary combination is the best

[@LORDSHARKSKIN]

please create a video on the basis of type of units...example spears top 5/10, swords 5/10, cavalry top 5/10....etc...will be much better.. ty and i like ur vids !

[@sportingtm3979]

For me personally I think Spartan Hoplites are 2nd best after the Urban Cohorts.

[@SteelFlesher]

They're shit when exposed to archer fire

[@myfredo32]

guys, these dudes are pretty cost effective!

[@digiorno1142]

This really isnt fair at all because the ai doesnt keep the phalanx down. The spartan wouldve won in most of these if it was controlled by a player because the player would have them stay in formation

[@daliadosantos4146]

Good job my friend, for all the pople that love this Game :v :v :v

[@NinjaSushi2]

Effective vs armor removes armor entirely in the damage equation. It does nothing for the shield and defense skill.

[@cobrazax]

you sure it doesnt halve the armor stats?

[@scammbledeggs2707]

Says allot about the balance of the game that 6 out of the top 10 are pike/spear units.

[@NinjaSushi2]

Massing legionaries is totally the way to go.

[@Rohit-tp7qx]

The best unit in the game is silver shield pikemen and the best cavalary unit is cataphracts , giving selkuid empire a serious advantage

[@cobrazax]

the silver shields are not the best pikemen. the royal pikemen are better. still. they are strong. and yes cataphracts are the best.

[@King76oh]

Bull Warriors are my favorite unit

[@Achilles32131]

I think it depends on more what their used for: -Best Attackers (non-cav): Berserkers, or Urban Cohort (UC) Best Defenders (non-cav): Spartan Hoplites, or Sacred Band Best Artillery unit (non-cav): Roman Archer Auxillia Best Ambushers (non-cav): Berserkers, German axeman, or Arcani Best non-artillery Cavalry: Praetorian Cavalry, or Long Shield Cav Best Artillery Cavalry: Armored War Elephants(obviously) or Egypt’s missile cavalry Best overall infantry: Urban Cohort Best overall Missle Unit: Archer Auxillia Best overall Cavalry: Armoured War Elephants (if you go that route) Otherwise praetorian or Cataphract These are just my opinions feel free to agree or disagree :)

[@jacobphillips7389]

personally, for the best missile unit, i would pick the forester warband every time

[@jonsnow7092]

Roman Archer Auxillia are not even in discussion when it comes to the best ranged units in this game. There are 4 archer units that outclass anything else in the game: Cretan Archers, Forrester Warband, Pharoh's Archers and Chosen Archers. Cretans deal the most ranged damage but have the weakest defensive stats, from there, in order that I mentioned, with each tier they get slightly less ranged-damage but better defensive abilities, culminating with Chosen archers that are pretty much medium infantry with long-range bows. On paper, when used properly as archers, the best value you get from the most damage but once upgrades and XP come in, the initial extra few points of ranged damage matter less and less. in practice, the chosen archers are the best when it comes to resisting enemy fire and can even fend off light cav thus, they are my favorite. Depending on your playstyle or various bonuses (like Pharoh's bonus in desert or Forrester's ability to hide) you may lean towards one or another between these units. Point is, these 4 units are by far the best in the game and can absolutely destroy any other ranged unit, including any roman archers.

[@markjones2151]

when i launched an invasion against rome had 5 armys of urban cohort when i was juli attacked on the captial citys of the bruti and scpii [forgot how to type names] and i destroyed all the capitals and took rome and the capitals in 2 turns

[@Lolly4twDasOrginal]

I only miss a list of all 10 units at the end of the video. :)

[@BiscuitsTotalWar]

+Lolly4twDasOrginal Hehe maybe on the next list!

[@xaero98]

Bull warriors?