YES, ARMORED HOPLITES! I absolutely love these guys. Versatile, cheap, look amazing, and amazing against all kinds of units including cavalry and most forms of infantry.
@MrTann20107 жыл бұрын
In campaign they are good overall however they lose to legionary cohorts ( with the correct tactic) royal pike sacred band urban and Spartans and get routed extremely easily by hammer and anvils
@RJALEXANDER7776 жыл бұрын
I won the game once, only producing armoured Hoplites. Haha.
@phanhuyduc23958 ай бұрын
@@MrTann2010 With just a line of Phalanx Center you can afford mass troops on the the either flank to overload it then cause mass rout
@Triplebrc4 жыл бұрын
I would have taken one of the phalanx units out to pick Forester Warbands. These guys are ridiculously good and pretty cheap for what they do, most people tend to forget about them though. They are basically the best archers in the game while also packing a serious melee punch, and they use spears in melee so they can even be a threat to non elite cavalry.
@male_maid59513 жыл бұрын
they arent infantry tho, their ranged.
@Triplebrc3 жыл бұрын
@@male_maid5951 Infantry means troops that are fighting on foot. Soldiers using machine guns are technically ranged, yet are still referred to as infantry, as the ranged infantry is a sub species of the common infantry.
@ajaxtelamonian5134 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Foresters are fantastic I've turned a battle using them a few times.
@King76ohАй бұрын
Bull Warriors are my favorite unit
@pride21847 жыл бұрын
roman troops are best in the game they never lose in multiplayer and single player
@MrSeropamine6 жыл бұрын
Imperator?
@NinjaSushi2 Жыл бұрын
You mix your words up a lot in this video.
@mercurius18777 жыл бұрын
I find it peculiar how armoured hoplites can thrash royal pikemen but Spartans cannot. Spartans are indeed less armoured but they have higher attack and 2 hit points. Rome II also failed to honour the Spartans with enough strength
@nowheat79877 жыл бұрын
hi
@thijsjong5 жыл бұрын
Wardogs 😋
@FrankCastle-tq9bz4 жыл бұрын
Technically not infantry as they are trained at the stables.
@GothicKnight25 жыл бұрын
The Urban Cohorts were historically the police and fire brigade of Rome; the Praetorian Guard was the Emperor's elite unit.
@janehrahan51164 жыл бұрын
police, fire brigade, and garrison. The last part is what is used to justify their stats.
@matthew_turkmen74823 жыл бұрын
Urban cohorts were created as a counterweight to power of praetorian guards
@alphanost8062 жыл бұрын
More police than fire brigade, if i'm not mistaken the Vigiles were fire brigade, they were also there to counterweight the power of the pretorian guard.
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
Well, that was until the praetorians decided to be king makers.
@Casketkrusher_ Жыл бұрын
We already know.
@louisayers34777 жыл бұрын
I built my Greek empire on armoured hoplites 👌
@selder_77 жыл бұрын
Louis Ayers well yeh, that's what you're supposed to do and what the Greeks did do 😂
@noscope78096 жыл бұрын
Nelf123 Lol yepe
@PlanetZoidstar5 жыл бұрын
Armoured Hoplites are all you need. Early game they dominate everything and are recruitable from turn 4.
@ddoomsday73134 жыл бұрын
I have made it too and greeks was the 1st who conquered the known world for me
@marktaylor64914 жыл бұрын
And backed up by Cretan Archers.
@gooscarguitar8 жыл бұрын
"Basically the gladiators of Rome Total War" What are Samnite, Velite and Mirmillo Gladiators then?
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+FlipUltraHD You got me there!
@anthonyteasley38377 жыл бұрын
think of it like red beats green. green beats blue. and blue beats red
@PanzerCrewman6 жыл бұрын
Slaves
@saguntum-iberian-greekkons70144 жыл бұрын
Thats what i thought also
@desertigloo23832 ай бұрын
Gladiators from gladiators
@khorps47567 жыл бұрын
"they will instantly destroy these romans before you can think" "let me put triple speed on, and there we go"
@zer-ok9sn7 жыл бұрын
Relatively speaking :P
@zakback99377 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the hell?!
@julianusvatinius44797 жыл бұрын
I Think Prophet Of The Spaghetti Is Looking For You. Also Can't Change My Name For 90 Days :(
@gavinnaab98416 жыл бұрын
Khorps ur sooooo right lol
@rogueleader19966 жыл бұрын
Haha I laughed at that too
@grendo455 жыл бұрын
17:15 "they are the gladiators of rome total war" there are literal gladiators in rome total war too lol
@3verlong4 жыл бұрын
yeah, one type for each roman house minus the senate
@whoatemyhummus7 жыл бұрын
Berserkers are my favorite because they have attitude.
@randomuruk72307 жыл бұрын
my fav unit is screeching women
@footballmylife92445 жыл бұрын
whoatemyhummus I’m with you
@randomuruk72303 жыл бұрын
@Transylvanian MGTOW monk the OG Karens
@justintimeagain23413 жыл бұрын
I once annihilated a full balanced Roman army played by my older brother in custom with just berserkers. They are seriously undefeatable against everything except for horse archers and war elephants.
@StoicMind177 жыл бұрын
He didnt put spartan hoplites in phalanx formation before attacking , well its like using spartan hoplites at 50% of their potential
@philpants443 жыл бұрын
@@FaravusGaming "redonculous" is the best word ever!
@hvcskmagyar2 жыл бұрын
@@FaravusGaming well of course Spartans borned for war If they ever need to retreat they won't, they fight to death or never be a spartan ever again only if they heroicly die at battle they get rememberd as spartans
@jothegreek7 жыл бұрын
eastern infantry the best infantry of the game regarding cost
@theefactor13606 жыл бұрын
nah town watch are better
@thefightingfedora29765 жыл бұрын
I love pairing Eastern Infantry with a decent mercenary javelin unit at its back, Cilician Pirates preferably so they can wade in after.
@FrankCastle-tq9bz4 жыл бұрын
You mean those units with little to no armor, weak offensive stats and poor morale? The only advantage they have is manpower and that can be blunted quickly even by some of Rome's weakest units (like hastatit).
@MrKingoffire4 жыл бұрын
Frank Castle wooooosh
@DIY_Miracle8 жыл бұрын
Decimate means to destroy 1/10. It annoys me. Pls don't hate me.
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Couch ! no hate, only love here.
@AI-cp1jg7 жыл бұрын
Steamed Hams Yes, you are right. That was the original meaning. However, like a lot of things it's gotten bastardized over time. These it's used almost synonymously with destroyed. I am not saying that's good or bad. It's how things change over time thru wrong usage.
@Tapiola6666 жыл бұрын
No, what annoys you is that you think you have learned what 'to decimate' means, and you like to tell people that decimate means to kill 1/10th. Except in modern day English, according to online dictionary, the definition is this: 1. kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of. "the inhabitants of the country had been decimated" 2. historical kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group. "the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a large body of mutineers" Do you notice how your #2 definition is #2 and not #1? Why do you think this is? I'll tell you. Because most people use decimate to mean the first definition. And not the 2nd. Yes, the 2nd definition was the original meaning of the word. Except languages change and words change. So next time you decide to be cool and tell people that decimate means to kill off 1/10th, please remember that that's only one of the meanings and that words can have different definitions and that you're being nothing but an arrogant shit who thinks he needs to lecture people on the word decimation. So next time just shut up instead of being only quasi correct in your shitty arrogant statement.
@johnyoutuber97816 жыл бұрын
Tapiola666 Man, i must gently beg you to cool down, just a bit. This is not the case to get heated up ok? 👍
@frisianmouve5 жыл бұрын
@@johnyoutuber9781 Yeah, his language was too much, but he's correct with the definitions
@RoulicisThe4 жыл бұрын
Correction : axes in Rome TW (as in medieval 2) have "armor piercing". They don't divide the ennemy defense by 2, they simply ignore the "armor" stat of the unit in question, which means that for this unit : a scored HIT ends up always as a scored KILL on any unit, even the most armoured ones like legionnaries. Edit : it's 3 years later now, and I've realised that my comment was actually wrong. Sorry about this mistake
@male_maid59513 жыл бұрын
unless they have 2hitpoint... looking at the bull warriors which weirdly were not on this list...
@luisnovais42883 жыл бұрын
@@male_maid5951 i don't mind missing that one unit, its just stupid of how OP they are
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
are you sure they ignore all armor? i think they ignore half of the armor.
@RoulicisThe Жыл бұрын
@@cobrazax As the comment was made 3 years ago I wasn't expecting to get another answer. But yes I did make a mistake here (and didn't know back then). In Rome and Medieval 2, "armor piercing" trait cuts the armor value of the target by half, not ignore it completely. It was a mistake on my part that I had forgotten I made. Thank you for reminding me of it, I'll put an edit on the main comment ^^
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
@@RoulicisThe I see. So basically the reason they are so deadly vs armored troops, is that their armor is much less useful, and the axemen attack is very high. Also flanking attacks would be especially deadly as the shield and defense skill would be much lower.
@qwidium4 жыл бұрын
8:15 are you kiding me? what kind of test is this? 11:09 again.
@josephspruill41994 жыл бұрын
Right attacking from the rear wtf
@Mikeylee47 жыл бұрын
11:20 u didnt even have the spartans spears down, not fair
@orwasaker39137 жыл бұрын
exactly my thought, I went into comments just looking for this comment
@Joker-yw9hl6 жыл бұрын
I'm late af but if you go a few seconds earlier you can see the Spartans are in phalanx, but phalanx units often break phalanx formation and fight with swords
@tinyhiny09135 жыл бұрын
Phalanx units drop their phalanx if they get too low in numbers. And as you can see early enough they dont have the numbers needed for staying in phalanx long enough
@leroyjenkins71085 жыл бұрын
The ai dropped them out of phalanx right before they engaged if it was a person Spartans would of stayed in formation and would have been a lot more effective
@MattyMadderzz5 жыл бұрын
This happened because the Macedon unit uses a pike not a spear and the pike is longer, it’s historical, it’s what Phillip and Alexander built their empires with
@patrickdc83965 жыл бұрын
The Spartan hoplites didn't have spears down against the Macedonian Pikemen no?
@ImadZeryouh8 жыл бұрын
I remember my first contact with naked fanatics. Lets just say 4 units of town watch went crying to their mommy by just 1 unit.
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
Town watch are just fodder units :)
@princeofcarthage61757 жыл бұрын
+Biscuits Total War urban cohorts will always beat spartans on equal ground.
@princeofcarthage61757 жыл бұрын
+Biscuits Total War and AI is dumb which is why you got those odd victory's. non-upgraded spartans will always beat gold-gold Royal pikemen.
@intruder46357 жыл бұрын
Imados 009
@ravenwing1997 жыл бұрын
Non Upgraded Spartans will lose to Royal Pikes they have less defense worse attack and are outnumbered by 50%.
@flankme45048 жыл бұрын
Biscuit !! You forgot the pigs !! Numidian is gonna be so angry now ..
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Flank Me Get ready for the 10 WOREST units in Rome Total War!
@flankme45048 жыл бұрын
ahahahah
@hoihoi7266 жыл бұрын
Pigs are going to be number one in top 10 cavalry mate.
@samuellamaey97234 жыл бұрын
Where are the Bull Warriors of Spain Army they are the BEST EVER
@caltasker23206 жыл бұрын
How many times can you say cost effective in a 20 minute video haha
@frosty24615 жыл бұрын
Fun fact berserkers can beat elephants
@mmartinisgreat4 жыл бұрын
Irl too
@NeroGG_4 жыл бұрын
No
@Ugh7184 жыл бұрын
Well duh chariots can aswell lol
@mattphillips28442 жыл бұрын
In the early game the falxmen trained with Ares with Thrace are unbeatable when you use them with miltia cav. They can be recruited in large towns and no other unit at that level can handle them. You can take 50 settlements so fast you don’t even need minor cities or higher to dominate. And they can be retrained on the fly since most places taken are at least a large town.
@trump-totalwar6509 Жыл бұрын
Is that right?
@mattphillips2844 Жыл бұрын
@@trump-totalwar6509 Yeah Falxmen take losses but slice through everything in the early game. If you play 100% aggressive offense in the beginning they will get some experience which then allows you to just auto resolve one battle after another and replenish the ranks with only a barracks so you can keep rolling. I was fighting Macedon, Bruttii and the Greek all at the some time still beat all of them.
@AI-cp1jg7 жыл бұрын
No love for Bull Warriors?
@willmacnaughton59884 жыл бұрын
I think he's being sarcastic bud. Bull warriors are so shit it's pretty much a meme in the Rome total war community
@kennedyshotfirst25344 жыл бұрын
@@borntofart Recruiting cost may be high, but it doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the upkeep which at 200 is dirt cheap
@699CHIP4 жыл бұрын
Ramadan Steve they do have 2 hit points and really strong javelins. That’s their strong points but too expensive for online play
@sexyborabo28427 жыл бұрын
Berserkers are broken af, they should be first
@justpassingthrough6867 жыл бұрын
FINALLY
@MrTann20107 жыл бұрын
No they still get wrecked by any pike that is stronger than a levy pike
@Kha-Beleth7 жыл бұрын
There's a video where a unit of berserkers absolutely annihilates Macedonian Royal Pikemen: /watch?v=7tUl-0kFIo4
@MrTann20107 жыл бұрын
I should rephrase my sentence. A beseker will get annihilated by somebody who knows how to play pikes.. The AI's formation was too thin
@karlvallerand10046 жыл бұрын
They dont have defence they get fucked by every missile and cav , and once you give an order they dont obey to you anymore ( even if your order is the war cry) and they are really coslty. So yeah not so great in my opinion
@PanzerShrek942 жыл бұрын
I never liked Hoplites because they simply can't hold their phalanx.even if they get attacked(or are attacking) they break their phalanx and use swords.how hard is it to hold the line with spears pointing forward?i especially hate it when horses attack you and they take the initial charge but immediately go sword against a horse.
@theefactor13607 жыл бұрын
what about spanish bull warriors
@randomuruk72307 жыл бұрын
they are similar cost to spartans and are only slightly better then urban cohorts
@theefactor13607 жыл бұрын
their basically chosen swordsmen that throw javelins, btw urban cohort are slightly better
@MAKGaming307 жыл бұрын
True they are awesome unit, I also posted a similar comment I hadn't seen yours I'm not copying lol
@zabaleta665 жыл бұрын
Wholly formidable! Tremendous stamina.
@Abb0able3 жыл бұрын
Hastati and light cavalry for me... so cheap... i always run into problems when that n00b Marius decides to reform my ultra fast cheap zerg rush armies in the middle of a blitz campaign :(
@jeremykun9348 жыл бұрын
the choosen axemen have a funny weakness bec. they are strong at enemy powerful units and their weakness is weak units too bec. they dont have high armor like falxmen, bastarnae and other units that have high damage but low armor
@planetarian30807 жыл бұрын
Or you just throw arrows at them and they just drop dead
@Gunpowderpatron3 жыл бұрын
You're list makes sense for online play, but I feel like recruitment time, location, and building needs should be addressed too. Spartans can only be built in Sparta and Syracuse, which means you can't take them on campaign and replenish them. Sacred Band and Berserkers both need temples to construct. I have never once recruited an Urban Cohort in an actual campaign because of how expensive an Urban Barracks is - compare this to Praetorian Cohorts which come with EVERY huge city. Royal Pikes, Silver/Bronze Shields take 2 turns to recruit versus 1 turn for Phalanx Pikemen - 2v1, my money is on the pikemen that can turn a flank. Top 3 in my opinion: Chosen Axemen (Monster Can Openers), Armored Holpites (Laughs in Damage Resistance), Praetorian Cohort (Fabulous Stats, easy recruitment)
@jonsnow70923 жыл бұрын
more than that, the real cost of a unit is its upkeep. sure, doom stacks of cohorts or elephants are fun but when you can field multiple endgame barbarian armies at the price of 1 doomstack, you get infinitely more value on the campaign map. and in terms of efficiency, even on harder difficulties, a chosen swordsmen + chosen archers + a bit of cav will wreck even the lategame roman armies, if properly used. if you play thrace, the bastarnae have an upkeep of only 130 denarii. the 2 hit points means that they don't die fast or against pillum attacks and once they engage, their massive damage will destroy anything. due to the 2HP, armor upgrades and XP are twice as valuable meaning that they become unbeatable beasts once you get in high silver-gold XP range. good morale (that can even be improved by thracian temple), fast moving so you can outflank any other infantry and bonus in woods and snow. once you get these guys in gold XP, they will mow down pretorians and urbans, elephants and any phalanx, regardless of enemy troop XP or upgrades. all that for 130 denarii. this has to be the most OP unit in the game in terms of effectiveness.
@jmk37232 жыл бұрын
The legionary cohorts are amazing too… kinda made me sad they were low on the list. Yeah their stats are a little worse than the urban or praetorian cohorts, but they cost significantly less to upkeep… like 300+ per turn for Urban and praetorians, while legionary cohorts are only 210 denarii per turn. Plus they can be recruited almost anywhere late game as level 3 city barracks are all that’s needed. Granted, praetorians can as well. Though the extra point of defense and attack for an additional 100 gold per turn isn’t worth it, though urban cohorts are the coolest looking division. Lastly legionaries only take 1 turn to make while the others take 2… and the legionaries also have the first cohort which is nice numbers wise but only recruitable in Rome
@thomashuffcutt94147 жыл бұрын
Mine: 10. Militia hoplite 9. Spear Warband 8. Screeching Women 7. Druid 6. Triarii 5. Bull Warriors 4. Armoured Hoplite 3. Arcanii(for coolness) 2. Spartan Hoplite 1. Berserkers I love berserkers, hate Legionnaires.
@ArchCone5 жыл бұрын
I built my hole empire on the legionary cohort they will always have a special place in my heart.
@geediali99415 жыл бұрын
Soldat lol same
@GooseGumlizzard4 жыл бұрын
so did Ancient Rome
@FrankCastle-tq9bz4 жыл бұрын
Same here - they are very cost effective and easier to retrain after multiple engagements than their urban counterparts.
@WorkDayPegasus7 жыл бұрын
"these guys are basicly the gladiators of rome total war" when you said that, you lost all respect 17:15
@caleb43694 жыл бұрын
workdaypegasus well he probs did just make a mistake
@Dan-uf2vh3 жыл бұрын
the urban cohort is NOT the most cost effective (and they take tremendous building progress to make) and it takes 2 turns to train; the most cost effective are the legion (get out 10 legions before your first urban cohort) and the armored hoplite (which is even accessible on turn 5 by building a barracks upgrade in Sparta); also in a straight up fight spartan vs urban (grass flatland) the spartan will win with an average of 8 men lost out of 80 which means they steamroll the urban is a straight fight (70+ out of 80 men remaining with the urbans routing on several men left)
@SteelFlesher2 жыл бұрын
Yep if u have alot of archer auxilla with flames on and like 5 legionnaries u can destroy anything lmao
@LI00228 жыл бұрын
My list would be: 1. Urban Cohort (versatile, good value, OP?) 2. Sacred Band Hoplites (good value again, somewhat underrated by many) 3. Royal Pikemen (Best long pikes in the game, makes Macedon special) 4. Spartans (dominates high denarii games and still used lower money) 5. Legionaries (versatile, good value) 6. Silver Shield legionaries (as above, good combo with SS pikes in 31K) 7. Bronze Shield Pikemen (Not overpriced Silver Shield Pikes, second best long pikes in game after Royal PIkemen) 8. Armoured Hoplites (Good value) 9. Phalanx Pikemen (Good value, Thrace's only decent unit) 10. Berzerkers (Carries Germania as a playable faction in high denarii games) Honorable Mention: Praetorian Cohort (just doesn't see enough play to warrant a spot, overshadowed by Urbans.) I still like your list :) Chosen axemen were way overrated but the rest were pretty good!
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Kim JongLi Chosen Axemen only cost 580. They have warcry and amour armour piercing axe - (18 attack, 6 defence, 5 charge). I shouldn’t need to sell this unit to you, it sells its self!!I did give the praetorian cohort a mention, but why would you pick them when you can have an Urban. In my honest opion I think the praetorian cohort should have been the Urbans. There no need for Rome to have both Urbans and praetorians.
@LI00228 жыл бұрын
Biscuits Total War The Chosen Axemen are only good against Rome. Think about it; only against Rome. Against almost every other faction they lose out. Allow me to list some examples: Egypt=insta lose, Armenia=loses to pikes (even though their pikes are bad), Britannia= loses to chars and hurlers (insta lose), Macedon= loses to pikes, Greece= loses to pikes, Parthia= loses to missiles, Scythia= loses to missiles, Pontus= (Insta lose). TLDR; On paper, Chosen axemen are great, but in practise, they suffer against too many common pike and missile units to be of good use in multiplayer. One of the reasons Germania suffers in MP is because Chosen Axemen are the only filler units available, and it is because they are forced to rely on Chosen Axemen in 31K that Germania is so difficult to pilot.
@LI00227 жыл бұрын
On high denarii or big unit sizes, definitely.
@frisianmouve6 жыл бұрын
Urbans get 2 more attack and 1 more defense over praetorians, but somehow they also get more stamina and morale than the praetorians. Urbans all the way
@01RickFGS017 жыл бұрын
Agree with most choices for online battles with limited money.In campaign however the best will be: Armored Hoplites, Greeks strategic location can generate the most money per turn in the game, armored are cheap, one turn build and greek cities are easy to get gold-gold upgrades, sacred bands come close but they take 2t to build. Spartans are too expensive, take 2 turns and the maintnence cost is huge, for the romans the best in campaign is legionary first cohort and praetorian cohort, the first carries the eagle, arrives at a good time in the game and carries mores troops, thus more pila, the second gives more quality for less money and can handle missile fire, very good stamina and can take on heavy fortified enemy positionsI learned this playing multiplayer huge scale campaigns against other people, the money per turn greeks can conger in the agean as no match in the game
@angquangnguyenthac28334 жыл бұрын
For Rome: Pre-Marian: Hastati (dirt cheap, big shield so good against missiles and resistance against charge (9 def) having pila to beat down most armored infantry and sometimes even chariots/cavalry, tend to survive long enough to get vet status) Post-Marian: Legionary cohort (everything Hastati is but with more armor and testudo) Preatarian cohort for extra bulk and damage.
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
@@angquangnguyenthac2833 i have no idea what the charge thing u r talking about. missile resistance is the defense without defense skill. against charge its the normal defense.
@raymondcz23614 жыл бұрын
Urban Cohorts are historicall unit, but in the reality they were composed of mens who doesnt made it into legions.
@АлекСандр-т7э3т3 жыл бұрын
Chosen axemen is the one infantry unit that can destroy urban cohort 1v1, spartans are the one unit that can destroy every one if they can from a closed circle of falangs, but... honestly, they all can be fucked by arrow fire, archers rule this game
@male_maid59513 жыл бұрын
bull warriors upgraded beat urban cohort upgrade as well
@KhoaNguyen-tu7sb7 жыл бұрын
The most imbalanced infantry unit in Rome:Total War is Levi Pikemen. 240men/unit (huge), phalanx formation, very long spear and fucking cheap
@JonatasMonte7 жыл бұрын
That can hold pretty much any city if you only attack by the main gate.
@khorps47567 жыл бұрын
only if you use it right
@KhoaNguyen-tu7sb7 жыл бұрын
Any unit can gone easily if you use it in a wrong way. I'm pretty sure that Levi pikemen is very strong not only in a defense battle and become unstoppable if you fight automatically because of the unit size.
@Omnipotentmonkey7 жыл бұрын
with their weak armour and close-packed nature they get torn to fucking pieces by any missile troops. so Roman armies and their Pila will massacre them.
@male_maid59513 жыл бұрын
@@Omnipotentmonkey hmm maybe, but they are cheaper than both, and the number of models to a unit can outsurvive the arrow fire,
@zabaleta665 жыл бұрын
My best non-archer infantry units. All the Roman units from early legionary cohort up (not including auxilia spearmen [hopeless]; Spanish bull warriors; later Spartan phalanx infantry units; Bastarnae; Dacian/Thracian falxmen; Illyrian mercenaries and the ubiquitous barbarian mercenaries.
@aintnoslice34228 жыл бұрын
What about the Bastarnae? (14 attack, 6 charge, 2 hit points)?
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Ain't no Slice There cost puts me off them (790 ) plus I don’t think they have warcry. If you compare them to Chosen Axemen at 580, plus their warcry and amour armour piercing axe - (18 attack, 6 defence, 5 charge).
@volkanerkut10457 ай бұрын
Best infantry units IMO: Spartan Hoplites: Phalanx form and superior morale. They fight until last man falls. Bull Warriors: One of the best late game unit. But they can be recruited from only shitty Spain. Excellent morale and high javelin damage. Pharaohs Guards: One of the best phalanx unit. They deal superb damage. Falxmen: Oh baby! I love these maniacs. Berserker: Berserk mode can vanish all legionaries. But they are extremely vulnerable to ranged attacks. Don't use them while storming to the walls. Watchtowers will consume them. Urban Cohort: Historically wrong but best unit in the game. They can vanish infantry, ranged units, cavalry all types of units. Javelin damage is even better than Bull Warriors.
@AudieHolland4 жыл бұрын
When I wasn't playing as the Romans, the best unit overall was: Iberian infantry. Only average stats but they're dirt cheap and the enemy never has an army full of elite units. Of course, use only in combination with decent archers/slingers and some cavalry to flank the enemy unit or hit them in the back. Iberian infantry will not last for long but who cares if you've got loads of them. Then, after the bloody battle has been won, comes the most important phase: rebuilding your units. Elite units can only be rebuilt in special, high tier barracks. Iberian infantry can be rebuilt in basically any town of importance. If you can only win with elite units, there's something wrong with your tactics. And like I said, strategically, you cannot do much about rebuilding elite units when campaigning far away from home. Iberian infantry are like the Yari Ashigaru of mediëval Japan, any poor sod can be trained to join the Iberian infantry! We need men. They will keep on fighting! Join the Iberian infantry now!!
@theterrobear27164 жыл бұрын
I remember playing as the romans and after the marian reforms, i had this immense stubborness to build 4-5 armies full of newly recruited legionaires.At that point i had to face Egypt who to my happiness really challenged me (basically captured everything east of italy by 240 bc which is amazing even for a player) and after 10 battles i found myself needing to repplenish my armies in italy.Egypt got the upper hand and i got to win the fight after a 8 year old war with egypt.Looking back i would definetly build "some" armies made of auxilia maybe early cohorts but still, playing an entire game with light infantry gets almost impossible in late game
@theterrobear27164 жыл бұрын
@@URUNicoM marian reform troops are buffed a lot compared to other factions units.It s not fun for me if i spam armies with same troops, try diversity and counter tactics even if it s not as quick it s more fun.
@LyricalDJ4 жыл бұрын
They're okay. But If you rely on these to win your battles then you need to switch up your tactics because otherwise they're going to lose hard if they're coming up against other early game units like hastati, Gemanic spear warband and early hoplites. All of which I'd pick before Iberian infantry.
@AudieHolland4 жыл бұрын
@@LyricalDJ Are you talking to me? Anyway, Iberian infantry, like Yari Ashigaru, don't have impressive stats. The only way I used them (as I do use other cheap infantry) is to keep the enemy occupied untill I could flank him with a cavalry unit or some other fast, maneuverable unit. If we're talking about best unit in the game, that's easy. All cavalry armies. And unlike in reality, you can keep changing direction, re-attack while retreating etc. etc. Cavalry in RTW are basically super genius smart missiles like in Hollywood movies.
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
for holding the line for a bit, sure. anything longer than that and they will break quickly. they cannot survive much or kill much.
@alstongaillard97493 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Urban Cohort is the best infantry unit but I think that it could be the Spartan Hoplites if they could be recruited anywhere.
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
ideally also if they had decent armor...
@janbazuine6636Ай бұрын
Spartan hoplites take two turns to recruit and are more than twice as expensive as armoured hoplites, while not being twice as good. Armoured hoplites are objectively a superior unit
@MrDarkcrap8 жыл бұрын
Hey biscuits, do you have any tips for playing against Rome as a phalanx faction? It seems like all the time Rome out-maneuvers me.
@canaanmyskowski52238 жыл бұрын
+MrDarkcrap Depends, what rule set/scale do you play?
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+MrDarkcrap Hey MDC! Is this in 31K or in cwb rules or just anything?
@MrDarkcrap8 жыл бұрын
Biscuits Total War 15k CWB
@thelouster58157 жыл бұрын
Kaiser_1488 Protecting your phalanx's flanks is your top priority. I suggest having a second line behind a phalanx wall and cavalry in the sides for defensive purposes.
@tomaszlosinski8757 жыл бұрын
noob square. Put all your phalanx units in a square with archers in the middle and watch the slaughter commence.
@stephenhartley28535 жыл бұрын
your point about the heavy axemen halving the enemy defence is not true. it is only the armour and possibly the shield rating that is halved. melee defence is unaffected by bonus against armour
@elijah4606 Жыл бұрын
Playing as Scythia now and I laugh at all infantry. If the enemy has no cavalry or war dogs, I will have less than 50 casualties. Archers with long range projectiles are probably the most dangerous infantry unit to horse archers. Everything else can be worn out and then routed easily, which is why all armies ought to use cavalry. If you have no cav, it doesn't matter how good your infantry are you're going to lose against a cav-heavy force.
@edgardavidson765 жыл бұрын
all about cost of troops, thats not top 10 infantry units list, should be cost effective infantry instead
@JohnDoe-on6ru4 жыл бұрын
No peasants? wtf?
@slimegoop98537 жыл бұрын
What about the Egyptian Royal guard pikemen guys? I find them to be very cheap and pretty effective in MP, unless they come under missed fire.
@johnirby88473 жыл бұрын
Triarii are pretty OP if you play them well. They destroy cav and can go 1v1 with later Marian reform units. Try a gold/gold Triarii against a gold/gold urban or royal pikes and you'll see some interesting results.
@daliadosantos41468 жыл бұрын
Good job my friend, for all the pople that love this Game :v :v :v
@georgyzhukov64094 жыл бұрын
11:25 lol the spartans didnt even use phalanx no wonder they got destroyed
@jimbob44475 ай бұрын
Devastate not decimate. SMH.
@roberttaylor31187 жыл бұрын
actually, the silver shield legionaries have the same attack and defense stats as the Roman legionary cohort, but it actually costs slightly less: 710 to Rome's 740. the Armenian and numidian legionaries, though, are on par with the Roman principes, and they also can not form testudo. however, while the numidian unit is slightly more than the principe's cost, the Armenian is 440, significantly cheaper than the principe's 490. while these units are decent on their own, they are really used to guard the flanks and form the mobile arm of the lines of heavy spearmen, protecting the cataphracts until the best moment for them to flank.
@RJALEXANDER7776 жыл бұрын
Only problem with the silver legionaires is they take two turns to recruit. So in the campaign they'll always be out-produced by the Romans, same with Silver pikemen. So its necessarily to bulk one's armies up with some levies and regulars.
@Hisnalakrad8 ай бұрын
I love sacred band, heres the problem, you have to survive long enough as carthage to get them
@gertmoelders88095 жыл бұрын
The idea that hoplites beat pikes from the front is so dumb to me
@NinjaSushi2 Жыл бұрын
"The Germans destroy the Romans." Eh they hit them from the flank and rear so that's probably why.
@danielbalderrama41377 жыл бұрын
poeni infantry are pretty much equal to phalanx pikemen
@SwordEncarmine8 жыл бұрын
Could You do a top 10 factions video Bades in comepetitive Multiplayer with Standard rules?
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Clemens Rieckert cwb rules?
@mercurius18777 жыл бұрын
What about the Spanish bull warriors?
@frituurpan314 жыл бұрын
Trash for their cost
@daniellclary2 жыл бұрын
I just started playing the remasted game. At the moment I am using Archers and War Dogs. The dogs apparently are treated like ammo. So you just sent them out, and at the end of the battle you get them back. I'm been winning many battles with no loses.
@nathanapplegate53745 жыл бұрын
Berserkers are OP to the point of being broken. Urban cohorts are no match. Spartans are no match.
@jackurquhart79947 жыл бұрын
i think levy pikemen are fairly decent, while they are nothing compared to the ones on this list they are the backbone of my thracian army and have helped me take greece, due to there ok cost, large unit size and long pikes
@theefactor13606 жыл бұрын
i think u mean phalanx pikemen
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
they dont have levi pikemen, only militia hoplites and phalanx pikemen. the pikemen are solid, especially when supported by the other deadly thracian infantry.
@danielbalderrama41377 жыл бұрын
Spartan hoplites do not beat urban cohorts unless in a city setting, Urbans found it easy to outrank a tight formation phalanx. Also Spartan hoplites non upgraded can beat gold gold royal pikemen for some strange reason. Biscuits probably modded his pikemen stats.
@randomuruk72307 жыл бұрын
no i can beat them also spartans do beat urban cohorts
@Userius16 жыл бұрын
The axe doesn't divide defense in half. It only affects the armor stat. So say you're using Chosen Axemen against a unit that has 8 armor, 10 defense skill, and 5 shield (total 23 defense), the axe, with its armor piercing attribute with reduce the armor to 4, making the enemy be at 19 total defense.
@NinjaSushi2 Жыл бұрын
Effective vs armor means they ignore the armor Stat but not the defense stat. I think shield only matters with arrows.
@Userius1 Жыл бұрын
@@NinjaSushi2 That's correct...wait didn't I just see you somewhere
@trump-totalwar6509 Жыл бұрын
@@Userius1 you ok?
@Userius1 Жыл бұрын
@@trump-totalwar6509 Nope 🤪 wbu?
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
@@NinjaSushi2 i dont think they ignore armor...just half of it. shields works vs any attack from the front and sides from the sides i think less. defense skill is useless vs arrows.
@IskoJakobsson5 ай бұрын
Spoiler: 1. Eastern Infantry 2. Town watch 3. Warband
@jamiengo23437 жыл бұрын
Legionairy Cohorts are the standard, solid troops that can be used. The Urban Cohort guarded Rome essentially and were created by Emperor Augustus in an attempt to balance the Praetorian Guard
@mazozpk7 жыл бұрын
Great Jamie why balance?
@woodchuckcider13 жыл бұрын
20 units of Berserkers 1) Warcry 2) AURRGHHAURAURUARUAURUARUARURRRR game over
@DomMarmelo4 жыл бұрын
i wish this game will stop crashing :(
@gosling43917 жыл бұрын
Live close to Sean Bean by any chance? XD
@MAKGaming307 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Infantry in Rome Total War. 1 . Roman Legionnaire's 240 unit from Rome. 2 .Spanish bull Warriors. 3. Armoured urban cohort . 4.Royal Macedonian pikemen. 5 .Silver shield and bronze pikemen. 6 spartan hoplites. 7 .Sacred band. 8.Berserkers 9. Chosen axemen. 10. Greek armoured hoplites.
@MAKGaming307 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Rome Total War factions. 1. The Macedonia 2. The Seleucids 3.The Brutii 4.The Scipii 5.The Pontus 6.The Egyptians 7.The Julii 8.The Carthaginians 9.The Greeks 10.The Spanish
@manicoasis42007 жыл бұрын
Myles Kelly Either *The MacedonianS or Macedon. But yeah, they are the best.
@sandrikgevorkyan86882 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Berserks are the best units! Second are Spartans, third is Praetorians
@TheDexa884 жыл бұрын
Where is Pharaoh Guards?!!!? Those guys are pain in the ass
@XDSCoN13X Жыл бұрын
Lmao you are wrong as hell the seleucid cohors is the most cost effectiv
@NinjaSushi2 Жыл бұрын
Effective vs armor removes armor entirely in the damage equation. It does nothing for the shield and defense skill.
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
you sure it doesnt halve the armor stats?
@sportingtm39793 жыл бұрын
For me personally I think Spartan Hoplites are 2nd best after the Urban Cohorts.
@SteelFlesher2 жыл бұрын
They're shit when exposed to archer fire
@xaero984 ай бұрын
Bull warriors?
@mercurius18777 жыл бұрын
And what about bull warriors?
@FrankCastle-tq9bz4 жыл бұрын
They are ok, I guess...
@artemchinakov96464 жыл бұрын
I’d put night raiders somewhere in top-10 as well. Those are insane and cheap as dirt
@trump-totalwar6509 Жыл бұрын
Word warriors
@toastedcheezez90962 жыл бұрын
did they patch the game to give less troops or is it just me ?
@typicallynotawake99116 жыл бұрын
My ROMAN list 1. Early legionary cohort (may be expensive but still awesome) 2. First Early legionary cohort ( same as 1 but less defense) 3. Praetorian cohort (cost effective in my opinion) 4. Urban cohort (cost effective in my opinion also good garrison 5. Triarii (good for their time) 6. Principe (cost effective for time) 7. Legionary cohort ( cost effective 8 Velite gladiator (good flank cover) 9. Early legionary cohort (cost effective) 10 wardogs (yes it is infantry since it doesn’t ride anything)(oh baby it’s really thicc
@waitwho30746 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a question, I just bought this game on Steam and somehow if I turn on every single graphic options to the highest I barely have 30 fps? But the thing is my Pc should be good enough to let me have more fps! I have Quad-core Intel Core i7-6700 CPU @ 3.4GHz with 8GB shared cache 16 GB DDR4-2133 DIMM RAM (2x 8GB with 2 slots free) Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 graphics card with 2GB RAM
@teodorrydberg2543 жыл бұрын
what about the egyptian spearman pharaoh's guards?
@MPMetti8 жыл бұрын
it is good but i think the chosen swoedsman are batter than the axe man i think ;D nice vid
@BiscuitsTotalWar8 жыл бұрын
+Meti TV Gamer thanks for checking out the video. no love for the chosen axemen then?1
@danielbalderrama41377 жыл бұрын
sacred band can not beat Spartan hoplites but they can last a while until Carthage cavalry comes to the rescue.
@randomuruk72307 жыл бұрын
for the same cost they can
@danielbalderrama41377 жыл бұрын
Oisin Mullarkey. Not really, Spartans have that slight edge over every other phalanx unit. kind of like cataphract maces against cavalry
@MarcelJ.5 жыл бұрын
I once had the luck of accidentally destroying a well put together full army with 20 units with only two units of Berserkers. I don't know how, don't know why, but it worked.
@thefallengreek55075 жыл бұрын
2015 after 11 years of release u are too late my friend too late this game is old as fuck
@male_maid59513 жыл бұрын
jokes on you, remaster 2021
@emmettmeacham50055 жыл бұрын
2019 ?
@mappingbatman64903 жыл бұрын
WHERE ARE MILITIA HOPLITES THEY ARE THE BEST INF UNIT EVER
@digiorno11423 жыл бұрын
This really isnt fair at all because the ai doesnt keep the phalanx down. The spartan wouldve won in most of these if it was controlled by a player because the player would have them stay in formation
@ИгорьСикорский-ы2ъ3 жыл бұрын
Видео класное, жаль что нет похожего на русском языке.
@Summercamp1sland Жыл бұрын
I have never seen the sacred band beat the Spartans before I just did a test one Spartan vs one sacred band and the sacred band did good but still lost killing 90 Spartans and losing 140