How to Buy the Right 4WD

How to Buy the Right 4WD
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[@r6TrdSlow]

Great tips on this. I especially loved hearing "drive your vehicle before doing anything to it at all." I can't tell you how often I see people modding their vehicles before ever taking it anywhere. I've removed several things from my "expected mod" list just simply by testing it in stock form and then slowly adding things here and there over the years as I see needed. It's amazing what you don't *need* when you have the right vehicles or only have access to limited locations

[@Chris-ut6eq]

advice: make a weight budget and good faith estimates of everything you want to add/carry to the vehicle long before you buy. Your weight budget will determine your which vehicle you buy. Worst thing that can happen is you buy the wrong vehicle before you know the gear load. The white board of truth was a good starting point. Great video! weight budget planning > vehicle cost budget. You can always buy an older vehicle that can carry what you want/need to be happy.

[@chooseboost]

Ronny you didn’t mention the Pajero! You’re killing me!

[@Harryandleo]

Ronny was only talking about 4wds

[@marcvincenzo430]

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[@ernestolane3422]

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[@viewsONTRENDING]

I have very deep pockets, I can never find my money

[@kadmow]

Deep pockets And holes...

[@lentsoemamatela1024]

Thanks @RonnyDahl no one has ever explained GVM so clearly. I am also inclined to think the majority of people may be over GVM unknowingly.

[@jimbojones2457]

Fantastic work Ronny! You're getting better at this. As i said before in other videos, that's the biggest mistake people make when buying a ute....putting a heavy steel tray on it. For touring it is an absolute waste of strength and weight. You only need a steel tray for heavy mining or farming applications. I saved about 200kgs on my 79 by ordering a heavy duty alloy troy from factory and even with a full sized alloy canopy on the tray it is STILL lighter than having just a steel tray. The canopy weighs about 150kgs with drawers and a full size shelf 2 thirds up. I've done the Oodnadatta track, West Mereenie Loop, Rainbow Valley etc on some of the roughest outback tracks and the alloy tray has handled it no worries. The key is not to overload your tray. Just take what you need and your vehicle will love you for it. And i still run stock suspension as i haven't overloaded my vehicle.

[@thegruntmanoverlandcompany6254]

Best Advice, Keep it Light, your vehicle will Thank You

[@DarrylLawson]

Prado 150 GX (base model) has a 750 Kg payload. That 550 Kg figure shown on the whiteboard must be for a Kakadu (bloated top spec). And that is with the kerb weight including 150 L of diesel. Advice: get the base model for better payload (and to save money).

[@willoughby40]

exactly.

[@gonegliding2966]

if towing is considered, towbar and towball weight also need to be factored into GVM

[@angusmacdonald8577]

Great vid Ronny... very helpful especially about the GVM. Thanks

[@dperk1757]

Excellent video Ronny. Stand out tip for me is drive and get to know your vehicle before modifying it.. I’ve gone full circle now and back to a light, minimal setup and loving it 👍

[@djphatb]

Parts availability is a big issue here in some parts of Brazil. Ended up getting a Triton but we looked at all available options. We actually liked the Ranger but all owners we spoke with had issue getting basic parts when bringing in there truck for maintenance. Some had to wait for more than a month just for basic parts. Also I is worth checking if the dealer deals with a lot of vehicles that are heavily used. Here in our state Triton's are used by police, firefighters and other government agencies that go to remote and restricted nature reserves. Because of that the dealer is used to dealing with certain wear on these trucks.

[@rvWORM]

The old Landrover Defender has great payload figures. e.g 110: 804-1269kg / 130: 1174-1648kg

[@axelcartwright4507]

I know in aus and mostly the world the defenders are not known for reliability but their load carrying is amazing! I have a 2008 defender 110sw I took the third row out so I subtracted the weight of the seats from my tare weight. My payload came to 1.2 tons! With all my accessories on and fuel and food plus two people I have 250kg Spare. That’s with out a GVM upgrade

[@baileyvandenbosch5231]

Always love the vids Ronny! Really helping out when I try choose a 4x4

[@aaronderozario5065]

Ronny. On ground clearance - not all manufacturers use the same method when stating ground clearance. Some use minimum clearance (lowest point of the vehicle), others use running clearance (bottom of sill I think). Comparing side by side is not always meaningful. Hilux is advertised with a running clearance to give a bigger number.

[@neth77]

Buy a used one with all the kit, they don't sell for more and you save a fortune :) Been looking at Pajeros, you get just over 700kg between Kerb Weight and GVM, not bad.

[@richardweerasinghe3296]

I think it’s worth mentioning that most vehicles are specced from the factory with accessories that will increase the stock weight and will reduce load capacity. Rear AC, bigger stereos etc.

[@Kelv-inator]

Great informative video Ronny. I think your payload figures for the LC200 and Y62 are a bit out. The series of the vehicle may change, but I believe the LC200 should be around 650kg, Y62 around 750kg

[@Ronny_Dahl]

Yes you are correct not sure where the 830 came from must have doubled the 76er. These things happen with solo researched/filmed/edited videos 🙃

[@Boz_TOYS4DAD]

Awesome video Ronnie. Need to put my 2021 Prado Kakadu on a diet now 😂 You should do a video on buying a Used 4wd (eg 3-5 years old)!

[@kenzorshotzor5534]

Very good info, have had to keep my MU-X under this hence why I have not gotten extended fuel tank for it. Isuzu MU-X GVM is 2750kg though but points still valid. Cheers for content.

[@bazza2540]

For the tow'ers out there, one of the few good things about Disco's are the tow ball weight is in addition to the load capacity, it doesn't come out of it. Pajero one of the worst in this, almost can't tow a van legally with the low ball weight rating

[@SuperMegaWoofer3000]

I picked up a Rugged X on a biz lease due to the crazy cheap finance (pre covid!), lots of steel that I didn't have to buy which is nice! But it's not complete... !

[@TheAussieFloof]

One piece of advice I can give is, do not give in to peer pressure from people who drive older and rougher 4wd's, just because they're happy to bash the crap out of there car doesn't mean you have to

[@tongietonks]

Awesome vid Ronny, the gvm explanation hit me pretty hard as I’ve got the fortuner. Grateful for your time and effort 👍🏽

[@mikeykeyes]

Don't forget after you have spent $80000 in 5 years you lost money on the car and when you sell you start again as no car stays forever.... By the way Ronny the set up with those multi colour lights reminds me of those 70s movies where the sleaze Motel owner sits in that kinda room for "patrons" to hire a room for an hour LOLLZZZZ Oh you got Isuzu as Izusu on the board!

[@norwegianminiranch]

I have not noticed before, your Toyotas plates says "Sleipnir". Cool.

[@vikingrus]

Always very kind and interesting videos! Thank your for usefull information, bro! Respect from Far East Russia

[@karlbirk2560]

Hi Ronny, from Yaegl Country, NSW. I appreciate the Goori Flag. Love the videos. I'd like to know which terrains require big tyres because I can't turn sharply enough at full-lock for hairpins and I can't fit through drive-thru nor some carparks. Are big tyres mainly for climbing/descending angles? My car feels sluggish with all the mods and I'm currently optimising in-car recovery/repair gear. I had two front hubs and one front axle shaft ujoint break on me in one round trip, finding highway before calling for a tow. Anticipating repair/recovery gear can be hard, when considering weight. With local terrain driving (East Coast Northern Rivers NSW), I've found many creek crossings with surprise 1m+ water levels, so snorkels and clearance and tyre pressures and diff lockers have been advantageous. My daily-driver is a Jeep JKU 3.6L Rubicon with 6" lift, 35" mud tyres, wider track axles and air lockers, and I sometimes drive another car on weekends for shopping / car parking.

[@saileshgmail]

ROBUST COMPLETE AND PERFECT. No other words. Except appreciate all the hard work youve put in to gather all that info and bother to pen it down on the white board. That really reflect your love and commitment for both your own self and your neighbors! Youre really loving your neighbors as yourself!! Hope youve worked on even the 1st great commandment too though (not to jeopardize the 2nd one if youve not, without which the world has become a bad place). God bless you Ronny. God speed.

[@brysonnorman7772]

The base bt50 rear and center diff lock. My uncle just took a stock one up the tele track the lockers helped heaps but only down side he has was clearance he had to get winced once

[@dagger_4d]

Can you do a video on some of the best used diesel 4x4 vehicles

[@jonelesuma1384]

Wagon Conversion to a TwinCab Ute - How about a chopped Toyota LC76 for more back seat space, with 650mm extension.

[@Cusk0]

12:50 Ford Ranger: XLT, FX4, Wildtrak and Raptor all come with rear lockers.

[@azl5862]

Xls also

[@anthonycooper5878]

The MUX GVM for the 4x4 is 2750 not 2650 as you have listed, giving it 100kg extra load capacity as you have listed, so it's not the worsted case scenario the ford everest is

[@Ronny_Dahl]

Not all figures are totally correct for a number of reasons, one of the being all the different specs and year of make/model and some I just got wrong. Hopefully anyone serious about the GVM will work their specific vehicle out and go from there.

[@gianniskaravasilis9320]

Amazine video Ronny well done!!!

[@dominojordan3d]

My 96 Cherokee has a load capacity of 690kg, gotta admit im pleasently surpised!

[@shanestaff6307]

Hey mate can you do a video on the ppd or wrap that when you scratch it in sun. It mends scratches I would love to get it but not sure where what or how thanks 🙏

[@johncampbell3628]

And it gets worse for people towing because the tow ball weight has to subtracted from the load carrying capacity

[@camerondevene9947]

great content mate, numbers are final.

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

My new Grenadier (when I get it?) only has around 700kgs of payload taking into account my specification. I have specced it up with Roo bar, side rails, checker plate on wings. Etc I am a fat bastard but my wife is only small so together we would be 160kgs, that leaves 540kgs. Looking at your list I can see about another 405kgs that I would need to add. I am not planning long trips though only weekends. That leaves about 100kgs for booze!

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

I just noticed their figures include *90% Fuel and all liquids (no driver). So I allowed for 90kgs of fuel plus an extra 80kgs long range tank. I guess that gives me back another 170kgs

[@itgomm1]

Gladiator is 450kg to 770kg depending on trim level. The closer to Rubicon, the less you can add. The diesel kills it the most though. Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Gladiator_(JT) Side note, a one tone axel swap and mods can increase the gvw but is pricey.

[@rp3874]

Hey Ronny, great video. Prob should have shown a reduction in the utes payload to account for a tray, where it is not already been taken into account, eg the LC79 (not sure on others).

[@Ronny_Dahl]

Yeah it’s only the 79

[@Ronny_Dahl]

And with a heavy steel 400kg tray the 79 suffers A LOT

[@rp3874]

@@Ronny_Dahl are you doing a follow up video for towing and GCM?

[@MatteoCorti]

I'm a bit confused about the last point. On a UTE you still have to factor in your trey, right? In that case, from your 1 ton of payload, you're already down to 600/700 kg.... Which is worst than some wagon..

[@796andy2]

Wish the US had the aftermarket for toyota y'all do ...

[@kadmow]

If my Falcon RTV had 4wd and dual range it could be in this running... ha ha.. (that is why I drive it - fairly capable and Fairly ok for long trips. Ronny Squashing all the hopes and dreams of aspiring Tourers - Turns out "We" (Not me Specifically) Do Need a Ram 2500 And LC 200 - the Ram to tow the honking Caravan, the LC to get the kids and Mrs to the camp site - not enough room in the RAM for the Mrs and Dog - pushing the GCM.... lol. PS. it can be done with less, just leave the microwave, dishwasher, etc... at home - Get away, use paper plates if you must - pick up after yourself. Enjoy the simple life.

[@samdey6781]

Great video Ronny. Re GVM should you factor in a canopy for Utes, as most tourers will have one and wagons don't need them?

[@mikeburns8959]

If you look at the GCM of the 1500 Ram you will find it is no better than the 200 Landcruiser and if you have a 200 Landcruiser GVM and GCM up graded you will have a better comination for towing a heavy caravan

[@Tom-lf8hx]

Money is key, but would you do the canning stock route or simo desert in a near stock vehicle? So you need to kit out your 4wd for where your going aswell But a quick beach trip with mates thats easy! Go have fun

[@jvictor499]

Very useful video... contratulations

[@darrendove2039]

Ronny, can you mention what happens or could happen when you go over GVM. I.e possible damage to chassis, diffs,wheel bearings etc etc. I think most 4 wheelers may already know. Loads wont. I enjoyed this video btw well covered.

[@SwampySi]

Im a jeep Fan and the GVM on the Gladiator is a joke, there is no way there going to sell many in Australia.

[@michaelcook5233]

i have one and couldn't agree more hahaha

[@darcymcgrath7275]

Is the fridge slide weight with fridge or just slide. My 40l Engle fridge slide is not 40kg’s.

[@LargeGSX1400]

Maybe Ronny has one made of cast iron. Fridge slide weighs in around 5-10kg.

[@jarrod1687]

He must mran the drop down slides, theyre about 40-50kg

[@LargeGSX1400]

@@jarrod1687 are they really that heavy? Jesus, I've seen a couple but they didn't look that heavy.

[@jarrod1687]

@@LargeGSX1400 yeah i was going to get one until i found out how heavy they are.

[@eyeswideopen7450]

24:40 the Ute can hold 400kG more than the wagon. Unfair comperasion. The Ute has has a lot less body work to carry around. Plus you need a hardtop or canophy anwayay.

[@jordanbeel896]

You forgot to mention ball weight comes off gvm when towing so all those vehicles are over weight for towing most likely

[@kadmow]

Yes - and GCM in many vehicles is not GVM + GTM (The Difference between ATM and GTM = Ball weight)

[@roaminguero]

So since you have your LC79 tourer, will your next vehicle be a Rubicon then for the short trips and to take it on some tracks you might not want to take your 79 down then? :)

[@alanfaulkner6329]

Can’t beat the Chevrolet 30 CWT . Mind you it was 4x2 but is served the LRDG well. Proper job.

[@conciousnessm]

Do you have any opinion on the R51?

[@CHMernerner]

mine have 710kg capacity! and that's great cuz i am overweight

[@msjswapnil]

Cheers

[@baybon4017]

Hi ronny what is the best 4x4 insurance that can recover your rig in any location? Thanks

[@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga]

A little over 600 kg still pretty pathetic for a pickup truck... I didn’t know that about the Gladiator

[@kadmow]

@Jonathan Spier : Pretty much all Aussie Utes have been mid-sized but 1 Tonne Capacity. - honkin great "Yank Tanks" only 1/2 ton rated ?? uhuh - not to mention, always a premium price... nah.. - not unless they really offer something special.

[@thedevilstears1]

25:34 i was getting values saying up to 620 and 770kg

[@VeryCoolJeep]

You got a Toyota corolla ?

[@Jay-hr9ci]

I thought club 4x4 recent changed the rules and excluded things like water crossings, etc... ?

[@Ronny_Dahl]

Like I said I’m not qualified to talk or advice which company one should use that can get me in hot water. Research, ask the questions and get it in writing is what I can say.

[@Donkarnage223]

I just Googled "jeep gladiator load capacity?" and it says 1600lbs or 726kg. Did I search something wrong?

[@pryormio3853]

Hi there also to my last question does anyone know if I put 35 tyres on my 2019 ford ranger 3.2 will I need to do gearbox or engine performance upgrades as the TYRE size has now changed stock parameters?

[@BradleyMackintosh]

I’ll stick with my Nissan Patrol Ute with a GVM upgrade of 4.2 ton and a kerb weight of just 2 ton. I can carry more than my car weighed initially from factory.

[@Malte21400]

Afaik the gladiator payload is 1700lbs

[@Alienking01]

the rubicon trim is 1200lbs = 544kg

[@Malte21400]

Sarpe ahh i see.

[@ekim72]

2021 jeep gladiator has a cargo capacity between 499kg-771kg, depending on how it is optioned. With that said I still would not buy it.

[@deathsbane0]

Some people say adding a pre-filter voids warranty for new vehicles, is that true?

[@thang55]

Yes, but depends on dealer

[@deathsbane0]

@@thang55 thanks man! That will be one of the questions I will be asking to the dealer. Hopefully they also have it in writing.

[@william6815]

I think the Jeep gladiator is bad because it’s so long and has no chassis bracing all the way along the tub 🤷‍♂️

[@ferremit]

Ronny starts talking about exceeding GVM's... *Every touring 100 series owner in Australia stops watching the video*

[@kiaran1155]

It’s possible, with a struggle haha. Mine fully setup weights 3190kgs. (With myself and the doggo in it) my GVM is 3260kgs.

[@ianfarr-wharton1000]

Every touring 100 series owner in Australia stops watching the video and buy a Triton ute. Toyota is dead.

[@sloth_e]

@@ianfarr-wharton1000 yeah no idea why you'd pay more for less? I've been test-driving the lot in the last couple of months. Im ready to buy now. And it's not a hilux$. Theres no way ots worth it. I can get a wildtrack with dealer options for roughly sr5 prices once it's optioned.

[@lockyrichardson7195]

@@ianfarr-wharton1000 why would I buy a Triton which isn’t half as reliable as a Toyota?? Toyota is far from dead, Mitsubishi isn’t as reliable as Toyota.

[@lukedontknow9283]

@@lockyrichardson7195 the triton 3.2 is really reliable, new 2.8 hilux isn’t that reliable

[@anthonywhitney634]

My thoughts on a touring set-up when you have a family. The reality is that when you have a medium to large family, you need a wagon. Extra seats, enclosed area for shopping, etc, wagons are just better family cars (unless you want to spend more on canopies and luggage organising systems for utes, but your still limited with seats. Also, realistically, who can afford a Y62 or a 200? Not many. So, touring with a family in your wagon. Put the essentials on your vehicle to protect it. Don't have to get heavy weight everything, but at least rock sliders, a tubular bull bar, a winch. Then to go touring, get a camper trailer. You can put all your gear, fridge, extra fuel, water etc in that. It then becomes feasable to use your wagon for touring. Plus, you now have the flexibility to unhitch the trailer and do day trips without the extra weight. You don't have that option if you have a 'hero' touring vehicle. Just my thoughts.

[@emilrozkoszny3935]

Reason why I got a prado, most underestimated 4wd offroad, the tc is amazing and a factory 150l tank.

[@phantomwalker8251]

if you buy a y62 or 200,,,,your not going 4x4ing.or anywhere serious.they both have ifs,big no no..stay on the bitumen.dirt roads.theres no choice for a decent vehicle in this country.like a nissan titan,or toyota tundra.NOT,mall crawlers..

[@johncunningham4820]

@@phantomwalker8251. Rubbish . The two you named a preferable are TOO LONG . No ramp-over ability .

[@RangaPirate]

It also need s to be mentioned that if you're towing, the tow ball weight of the trailer needs to be included in your GVM calculations.

[@h3runs]

25:56 Ronnie inadvertently reveals his next vehicle, the Great Wall Steed! No one would know anything on one of those things offhand unless they've already bought one 👌 Congrats Ronnie 👍 👀 😆

[@keithrushforth4019]

So if you were to carry four chronically obese passengers in a small vehicle, that alone could put over your GVM.

[@melgregory7339]

A video on how the manufacturers/dealers actually carry out a GVM up grade on various vehicles would be interesting.

[@RadBunny2269]

Indeed! Please do this one Ron.

[@krump7429]

Its nothing special. Just an approved and tested suspension kit fitted, a new mod plate and a registration with main roads. Its all bit of a rort tbh, no upgrading of brakes chassis bracing ect ect.

[@PopEye2384]

just calculate the net weight of the addon accesories and headout to instal a suspension rated for the resultant weight..... you are good to go....

[@bush2coast801]

@@krump7429 Yep.... Braking being a massive one !

[@thang55]

@@krump7429 It's more complicated than that, a lot more

[@PatrickRich]

re: published figures - do not trust the figures you find on internet wholesale. Even on factory pages, I've found confirmed errors. For example, the brochure for the Tacoma had bad angles figures and when I asked Toyota about it they said, basically "yeah, here are the real numbers, we aren't reprinting that. Thanks." Search around and make sure that a) the numbers from several sources agree b) they are actually for YOUR model, not the most capable version. Make sure the figures make sense too. i.e. the ram power wagon used to claim 14.2 inches ground clearance but its got 33 inch tires with an 11.5 inch ring gear on its rear solid axle. The math doesn't add up since half of 33 minus half of 11.5 alone is less than 14.2. Don't take internet or manufacture figures at face value.

[@michaelcook5233]

*insert jeep guy defending his overpriced ute hahaha* Ronny - my Gladiator is 620kgs payload off the showroom floor, but what i want to add to the conversations is - it comes factory with; steel front bumper w/ rated recovery points, steel rear bumper w/ rated recovery points, steel rock sliders & some bash plates, do others in the the "class" have the same? So when you say a ute can carry 950kgs, that immediately decreases once you add the same mods to match what a Gladiator comes with from factory. I'm just speculating here, but all that might add around 100kg's? Now i am by no means saying that what the Gladiator has in terms of GVM is great, cause it isn't, but that isn't the reason for buying this kind of "ute". But that would put it over 700kg's and when you trade off the offroad performance vs some other utes and wagons, i am quite happy to make that trade off. horses for courses, its not an all out tourer and for that specific task there are many better options but i will do the QAA and Madigan line in my JT! :D Great video as always, thank you.

[@davidtaylor5811]

Good point. The Gladiator is probably the most capable UTE right off the dealer lot. Those numbers blow away any thing sold in the US btw.

[@patto9844]

@yusufaustralia jk has 250,000km on it and still going strong

[@Hornisserus]

When I stick to numbers, calculating all the stuff wanted, no way even a ute can help and dreams about an Unimog come. But the reality strikes back and mud tyres come out the only tuning. ^_^ I used to have a bull bar, winches and all the stuff on a previous vehicle, but it turned out that in reality it downgraded the performance and made me too optimistic of car's capabilities.

[@thenakinavy]

Air Oil Separator on the crank case breather would be up there on new engine mods for me.

[@danoesq2]

I just went for a '23 Gladiator Rubicon. Just using it for camping mainly, but it can basically go anywhere and saved a little over ten grand after heavy bargaining with the dealer.😊 I'm not in Australia so I'm sure that makes a difference.

[@Lancity8136]

the info provided: very valuable, thanks. (the lights during the explenation, horrible ::))

[@seabee167]

Best 2 days owning a black or dark colour vehicle, the day you buy it and the day you sell it 😎

[@cameron.gellatly]

Prado payloads vary a lot from model to model Prado 120 - 797KG Prado 150 - 565KG Pretty crazy difference

[@Px4164]

that's what striked me too, i got 120 and i remember it has something around 800kg payload. and that's just by overweight of the 150 series, which is over 200kg heavier probably, as gross mass is the same. So after all my manual, with no air suspension and 5 seats seems reasonable for a touring base, but automatic with all the stuff probably will go down to this 600kg.

[@DarrylLawson]

Prado 150 GX has 750 Kgs payload, higher specs have worse payload though.

[@bigmatty50]

Also the 78 Troopy has the same GVM as the 79 double cab (3300kg) so the payload in the GXL is a tonne.

[@royblackburn1163]

Love them or hate them trailers give you a third axle, mine has a 750 kg payload car has 650 kg, 1400 kg total, I'm nowhere near 100s spare and lots of space enough said ?

[@thang55]

And it's piss easy to upgrade the ATM on a trailer

[@guanghunglo3594]

Not as simple as it sounds! Downforce weight on your towbar from the trailer must be included in the total GVM of the towing vehicle seriously restricting the carrying capacity of the towing vehicle. For example if your downforce weight of your trailer is say 200kg that comes straight off your vehicle GVM in your case leaving you with 450 kg of legal carrying capacity which when fully loaded and fueled (and with vehicle accessories) could be easily exceeded.

[@royblackburn1163]

@@guanghunglo3594 Thank you for your reply I'm already fully aware, my nose weight is between 20 and 50 kg, my background includes hiking, backpacking, and motorbike touring i can get my rucksack including tent, sleeping bag and mat, cooking gear, and 2 changes of clothes down to less than 18kg, water and food is extra its why I find some rigs outrageous weight is enemy number one .

[@Dorko85]

You are dreaming thinking a LC200 has that payload! You can’t even carry 5 passengers, bull bar and full tank of fuel without hitting GVM.

[@DaveXL495]

With my current mods on my vehicle I can't even carry a driver without hitting GVM.

[@kiaran1155]

200s are weighed with 10ltrs of fuel in the tanks. Meaning you need to add the additional fuel weight before you calculate other weights haha. They weight near 2.5 tonnes standard (full of fuel)

[@michaeleyles6434]

I thought the 200’s payload was around the 680kg mark definitely not 830kg

[@phantomwalker8251]

all new 4x4rs are like that.this is why i buy pre bullshit 4x4rs..no tech & 2 diffs,with 2 stiks.old wins everytime.

[@TrentCain]

Great info as always Ronny. Only thing you forgot to mention when talking about vehicle GVM limits was the need to allow for the tow ball down weight if you are planning to tow a camper trailer or caravan. This can easily be another 150 - 200 added to your GVM! Far too many people forget to account for this when thinking about their vehicle's weight.

[@tapdog4x4]

Also need to be careful what manufacturers include in their curb weight. For my previous Everest, Ford only included a full take of fuel. While for my new Disco 5, LR includes 75kg for the driver, engine fluids, and 90% of a full tank of go go juice. That gives the D5 a payload of 890kg vs the Everest of 772kg with no people or fuel. Plus, if towing you need to take the tow ball download into account for your load calcs.

[@briansh]

Yes. I always take my vehicles to the scales to be weighed. Do not trust the manufacturers.

[@bazza2540]

Disco's are the only manf that the tow ball does not come out of the load, it is in addition to it.

[@Wdeane1957]

On the 79 series v MU-X comparison you've quoted the GVM of the MU-X as 2650 kgs. That is for the 4x2 model, not 4x4, which most touring set-ups would use. The 4x4 GVM is 2750 kgs giving you an extra 100 kgs, not much but a small improvement for comparison purposes. The payload for the mid level 4x4 LSU (according to Redbook) is 608kgs.

[@Sveken]

That 608KG is only 2KG less then a 200 series, Also note, depends on the trim level, as the payload goes up to 658KG on the mux

[@chrishanslow4825]

Great video Ronny mate, my wife and I are in about 18 months or so will be buying the new Dmax which will be ideal for our needs. And yes I will be looking at GVM and GCM upgrades plus a brake upgrade as I do believe a lot of people don't even think about how the extra weight effects the stopping power of the factory brakes.

[@anthonywhitney634]

Hi Chris, I also have a Dmax (on my second actually!). Brake upgrades aren't a bad thing but the brakes on utes are pretty good standard. Hence the higher towing capacities. I would do all your mods first and then see if you're happy with the braking. You may find that factory is still good enough.

[@chrishanslow4825]

@@anthonywhitney634 G'day Anthony, thanks for the feedback mate 👍, this will be our first Dmax as well as brand new car. Eventually I want to fit a tray and canopy and I quote: WIFE: we are getting a caravan first..... She who must be obeyed wants a caravan she will get a caravan 😂. I was thinking with the caravan and eventual tray/canopy set up that a brake upgrade couldn't hurt, but I didn't mention about a caravan in the mix in my original comment. Thanks again mate as it is always great to hear from people who have real life experience in what my wife and I are looking to invest our time and money into, also the main reason we are looking at the Dmax is Isuzu's amazing reliability 👍👍

[@mjhmech4903]

@@chrishanslow4825 The new D Max should be quite a ripper! We have the older versions and have been more than happy with them. The 2021 Should have much bigger front brakes at around 310mm+ front rotors vs ours 280mm (2011/2012). I think the main secret to safe towing is having your camper / van brakes on point with a decent electric brake controller eg Tow Pro Elite or similar and servicing / adjusting the trailer brakes regularly, replacing the magnets as necessary periodically etc. ( The amount of trailers / vans I see with zero brake effectiveness is actually pretty scary! ) Good luck with it and happy touring!

[@chrishanslow4825]

@@mjhmech4903 cheers mate, my wife and I can't wait and yeah the tow pro will be a priority addition when we do eventually get our caravan. Me personally I'd prefer a camper trailer but my wife wants a park up and relax approach due to us not getting any younger 😂😂 Anyway cheers again mate 👍👍

[@stevendouglas6593]

The SR has a rear locker as standard.

[@rbc2686]

Rugged X has rear locker

[@kadmow]

@@intimatespearfisher : Or Get a second Ute - make the family trip a tag-along - safety in numbers. - Hmm, towing a Van to the "back of beyond" in the Gulf country (for example) - how much damage are we expecting out of that - yes yes, boys toys - showin' tha missus how "real aussies" do it in luxus style....

[@john4x477]

Jeep Gladiator payload 770kg/1700lbs

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

Gladiator load capacity:. 1080 to 1600 lbs depending on trim. 485 - 725 kg.

[@BriscoelabMN]

It should also be mentioned that the Gladiator has a bed installed. So the “load capacity” doesn’t have to account for that. In fact, if you swapped to a lightweight tray you might gain some more capacity back. 725kg with the bed already installed isn’t too shabby.

[@dallasmellsop5488]

@@BriscoelabMN yeah but every other ute can do like 1 ton with a tray on, and 725kg isn't available in all regons

[@Saphire0437]

@@dallasmellsop5488 I think a lot of utes (like the LC79) don't include the tray in the original payload figures. Gladiator would have to being that all trims are tubs. The different specs have vastly different amounts of kit too. I wouldn't expect the rubicon to carry the same as the bottom spec. Lots of different gear.

[@dallasmellsop5488]

@@Saphire0437 yeah that's true, and don't get me wrong, I LOVE the gladiator, probaly is my favourite ute, I just still don't see 600-700 kgs as acceptable when like the HiLux and ranger can do so much more

[@Saphire0437]

@@dallasmellsop5488 I'd say the trade off there is...and I'm not a fanboy of any particular brand...stock gladiator will go places your typical 1 ton payload dual cabs won't (ranger, hilux, etc). Out of the box. Thats the selling point for the wrangler too. No mods required. Shit load of ability in stock form. If you modify a ranger or a hilux to be just as capable, you've probably added significant weight. Like a solid axle conversion for example. The other car I think of is the ranger raptor. Really really capable offroad out of the box, not great payload compared to the lower ranger trims.

[@roballan6357]

Those lights in the background are such an annoying distraction.

[@Triple-N]

Yup, it gives that night club look, or red light district. 😉

[@dogwalk3]

yep 😂 love ronny, but that's cheesy af. "there's no accounting for taste," as they say. buttttt. he's been helpful enough through the years, i give him a pass; though i agree with you.

[@Ronny_Dahl]

My bad forgot to switch them off the start setting. And yes it’s super distracting

[@roballan6357]

@@Ronny_Dahl forgiven lol.

[@mikeykeyes]

@@Triple-N see my comment above and I had not even read yours until now LOL

[@DhimanAhir]

You didn't include the Mitsubishi Pajero LWB on the wagon list: 3030kg (GVM) - 2319Kg (Kerb) = 711Kg load weight. Which is more than the Y62

[@praetorian3571]

Pajero is so underrated!

[@herbert696]

Worth noting for the Prado that you're getting a 150L fuel tank- that's 70-80L more than most of it's competitors.

[@gabormatuza8730]

Also GX has 750-780kg payload (depending on model year) while the Kakadu only has 550. The $30,000 price difference gives you enough cash for the accessories as well. It is a no brainer for me.

[@dimitriadriansz2513]

Prado 120 has 2 x 90L fuel tanks 180L.

[@emilrozkoszny3935]

But diesel engine uses more fuel so range is the same as the 150 prado

[@herbert696]

@@emilrozkoszny3935 Got that backwards there mate. Diesels use significantly less fuel.

[@emilrozkoszny3935]

@@herbert696 sorry meant to say the 120's diesel uses more than the 150's d4d which is more efficient so the range works out the same

[@declanburt9692]

"must have low range or dont buy it" * cough, amarock cough*

[@thang55]

Yep that's what I thought

[@emilrozkoszny3935]

Low range for engine braking down hills plus we have low range in reverse, where as the roks rely on only low gearing for all forward gears, but no reduction in revese gear

[@Ronny_Dahl]

I still stand by ‘must have low range’ just my opinion. I’d need to drive the 8 speed amarok to be convinced.

[@LifesTooShort]

@@Ronny_Dahl I was in the same boat... until i bought one, they are surprisingly capable off-road, I have mates with 200 Series(and older) and Wranglers, so far ive been everywhere they have on all the local tracks (im running a lift and AT's) reverse issue is a non event if you know how to deal with it (or tune it out) only issue ive had is making the mistake of leaving the iDrive on, it encourages major wheel spin! Come to Adelaide and you can take mine for a spin!

[@CHMernerner]

do YOU want to drive 4x4 without low gear?