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@SCRVVY3 жыл бұрын
I've always had the habit of some fingers on the pad and thought it was a bad thing. I'm glad to know that it can help in someways and I've always felt more comfortable with my pinky and thumb touching
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
It gives more control. Very nice to do with lighter mice and faster pads.
@VoidBL Жыл бұрын
Same and i thought my aim was better but i thought it was the wrong way so i would always lift my fingers up higher but i would feel awkward and it would mess with my aim.
@jsh4.0411 ай бұрын
ikr. even twist's had 5 fingers in his mousepad xd
@yix26863 жыл бұрын
man sacrificed his mouse for his channel. The least i can do is like the vid
@RonRamboKim3 жыл бұрын
😂
@fiestatech43953 жыл бұрын
I just noticed XD
@ethanmiles14823 жыл бұрын
What mouse was it? Zowie?
@Tjay073 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmiles1482 yea but I’m not sure in the model
@reliction3 жыл бұрын
@@Tjay07 fk series, looks exactly like mine
@Snook_3 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I use a mouse. Have asked friends before who found it weird that i glide my finger tips on the pad, but it gives you insanely higher control especially if you want to play with an edpi that isn't horrendously low in faster shooting games. Much more control with this style.
@Dupylo3 жыл бұрын
Big advantage in long range, u can actually move ur mouse pixel by pixel cause of it
@mikeyjxy3 жыл бұрын
Its similar to when you play pool, it builds a structure around the cue, somewhat of a scaffolding, giving you freedom of control.
@lehcimst3 жыл бұрын
They call it a bridge for a reason :P
@mikeyjxy3 жыл бұрын
@@lehcimst interesting, never knew what it was called
@_KN6_3 жыл бұрын
I really love this type of videos, it really goes in depth
@Zalco13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for point this out I think I did this unintentionally and my aim felt really smooth and controllable but I could never recreate it until I watched this video.
@5thdimensionzstudios5253 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU i was feeling like my habbit if having my pinky and ring finger grazing the mousepad was going to hinder me from further improving (even though my aim is notably better with the added friction) but having a professional say that both are equally affective if you're comfortable with it helped me a lot
@RonRamboKim3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear its helping :)
@peterfrancisnuevo63932 ай бұрын
I genuinely appreciate this as well. I legit thought Im doing it wrong when extending my pink as the brake since its what is comfortable and doesn't cause fatigue to my hand than curling it and causing my entire hand to stiff
@Tyler-sl6vg3 жыл бұрын
I think being cognizant of this for fine control for precise distance shot could potentially improve my game. Thanks.
@Xielent3 жыл бұрын
I've always done this, good to know it is not hurting my aim!
@natam16163 жыл бұрын
if you use a high dpi, putting the fingertip on the mousepad can kinda lower de sens and let you aim more precisely
@RS-zg2tc3 жыл бұрын
Now I know how to improve my aim and make a step further. I appreciate your help. Thank you 😀
@clutchceez14703 жыл бұрын
Loved this one Ron, exactly why I've always used my pinky extended with a bit of thumb grazing pad as a litmus test for mouse placement/movement and crosshair placement/flick muscle mem
@nervz3 жыл бұрын
im willing to bet that one guy is ethos.
@NIGHTMAREKINGGRIMMM3 жыл бұрын
for sure lmao
@ue.l96403 жыл бұрын
Hey man, just would like for you to know I really like watching your videos they actually have helped me quite a bit. Keep going never stop.
@OriginalRaveParty3 жыл бұрын
Great pointers to try out. Thanks.
@feLipeeUHU3 жыл бұрын
literally the first person i see that uses this pen/writing analogy to explain aim. I always had good control handwriting and I used to do pretty well with a higher sens, i figured it had to do with this.
@pRopaaNS3 жыл бұрын
Had to change grip to prevent the small fingertip from touching pad, because it had tendency to result with my mouse get stuck when shooting.
@ss-xc4gh3 жыл бұрын
I also have this but when i keep fingertips off the pad my vertical aim is kinda affected.
@realginkoz3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked so fast in my life
@kwilley92873 жыл бұрын
Until next video where you implement using your fingertips for pinpoint precision and speed 😩
@realginkoz3 жыл бұрын
@@kwilley9287 +1
@melonSSR3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks Ron
@sourav21493 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking bout this yesterday...dude u always comes at the perfect moment
@Eternal87-YTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. will try this from now on.
@gymyck3 жыл бұрын
this man is a genius
@Delawaredupont3 жыл бұрын
I have a very bad habit of completely holding my mouse in a way that none of my fingers really touch the mousepad, it's like a no-brake motion and I've noticed overshooting my aim every time I flick, u made me realize I need to pull on the brakes a little
@cousinsforever1158 Жыл бұрын
amazing video i reyed the 3 finger grip and i got more hedshot with my sherif in detsch and better traking
@cray0n433 жыл бұрын
i've tried relaaa's grip, you hold the mouse at the very bottom; actually the mouse is hovering- this technique only works with mice that has high LOD( lift of distance)- instead of mouse feet touching the pad it should be the ring, pinky, and your thumb in contact with the mousepad for more stopping power. it'll take a while to get used to.
@sadpika75703 жыл бұрын
the question I've been asking, thank you✅
@motorizedlifting25343 жыл бұрын
Solid info here. Thanks Ron Rambo Kim.
@Dupylo3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact if ur using the Hien u can't have ur fingertips touching the pad 🙃 cus it hurts
@westoncroye6432 жыл бұрын
Maybe for you it does. Not for me
@LighthawkFPSAimTraining3 жыл бұрын
Rambo always delivering the hot tips!
@llNEXO3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, really like the things you said in the video! Although i think that some chill music in the background will make it even better, so consider adding it!
@Demianz3 жыл бұрын
I never miss one of your vids
@KidCe.2 жыл бұрын
Maybe also a point about fingers touching the mousepad is tactical feedback? It could give your brain more information to work with to do the perfect motion. But I guess that's could not be a "realtime control loop" since the tactical feedback is processed waay slower in the brain than the visual feedback from the screen
@anthonybajcar19242 жыл бұрын
great pen analogy
@ethan78253 жыл бұрын
Think ur talking about NRG ethos with the weird pinky thingy
@BrandenBlackford2 жыл бұрын
I was always told growing up fingers on pad is bad and I never cared and here I am better than everyone;)
@ohhhh3 жыл бұрын
when I flick my mouse shakes alot. So even if I have a perfect flick onto someone's head it jiggles to the left or right and messes up the shot. I learned that funnily enough, that weird overexaggerated pinky extended actually helped me but its uncomfortable
@kKOLMАй бұрын
I really appreciate this video! I've been experimenting with fingertip placement myself, and I’ve noticed that when my fingers touch the mousepad (especially my pinky and thumb), I feel more in control, especially during micro-adjustments. It helps me with precision and stability. However, when I don't touch the pad, the movement feels smoother, but I lose that fine control for small movements. I feel like I haven’t given the 'no-fingertip' technique enough time to adjust, but for now, grazing the mousepad with my fingers gives me a sense of control that I prefer, especially when I need to make accurate micro-movements. Has anyone else experienced this? Any advice on balancing smoothness and control?
@carboncopy83 жыл бұрын
Hello Kim I have an interesting question: How do tricep muscles affect aiming? I am a gym goer and I have found that my aim is strongly affected after a gym session when my tricep are involved. This can lasts up to 2 days. I dont usually feel muscle soreness but aiming is almost impossible. Everything feels unfamiliar and uncomfortable. My muscle memory feels completely uncalibrated and disorted. Its like playing on a completely different mousepad and mouse and desk height/sitting height. I would like your opinion and thoughts on this. Do I just completely give up on gaming 5 days a week? Or is there a certain aiming / sitting style that could help?
@yashmishra99783 жыл бұрын
I noticed this thing too, the push day really sore my triceps out and aiming is difficult and I even get shoulder pain, Fixes i found are: 1. Don't train your triceps till failure 2. Play on a bit higher sens as higher sens are more wrist dependent than lower sens which are shoulder/full hand dependent. 3. Stretch out the muscles well after gym session.
@carboncopy83 жыл бұрын
@@yashmishra9978 thanks for the reply
@jeminiloco20802 жыл бұрын
Because when you bend your elbow like when doing bicep curls your so when you bend your arm while aiming you see you put ur hand on mouse pad around 90 degree so arm is bent and when arm is bent tricep is stretched but if tricep is sore and it’s stretched it’s gonna cause pain and instability because you will feel plain which will cause you to shake and if you’re on low sens you will need to extend your arm consistently also causing pain which means shakiness
@AntarcticBeef3 жыл бұрын
that Pinky-out grip is so fancy tho 😲
@BrentCox2B3 жыл бұрын
Dang that's crazy! I just asked this question on Valorant Reddit a week or two ago! Thank you !
@Surge_prod3 жыл бұрын
Good vid as always!
@mistertrackk3 жыл бұрын
I used to do this to help slow down in terms of over shooting.
@chihun39813 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron Rambo Kim. I have a quick question about using fingers for micromovements. It is easy to bend your fingers to move up and down with the mouse because your fingers are built that way. But how do you make finger microadjustments for horizontal movement?
@jpec_5313 жыл бұрын
Grip the mouse as you would. Using only your thumb, and ring and pinky finger. Push the mouse side to side WITHOUT using your wrist. Also pay attention to how your cursor moves when you do it. The mouse itself shouldn’t be going side to side more like tilting. | -> / -> \ Mainly the lower half of the mouse should be moving. Think of using the mouse upside down .
@chchchia3 жыл бұрын
i play high sens (1848 edpi) and when awping i keep my fingers off the pad, but when im aiming with rifle/pistol etc i like to drag my fingers to essentially lower my sensitivity to control spray better or steady my aim etc
@tevesjohndavid54163 жыл бұрын
crazy edpi bro
@ProFow3 жыл бұрын
I switched to high sens recently (720 to ~1560) it takes some getting used to but I feel I have a higher potential with this, and if I sink another 1k hours with this sensitivity I can argue that I'll be better with it
@ram423 жыл бұрын
@@ProFow if you sink 1k hours doing anything, you'll be good lol
@rdmz1353 жыл бұрын
@@ProFow if this is for a tactical shooter i can guarantee you thats a bad idea. any other game its probably a good idea.
@aisan2813 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, you sound like sykkuno.
@realmichaeltian2 жыл бұрын
I got really good for a period of time when I was grinding hard on FPS games. Came back this week and holy crap I wanted to cry at how bad I was aiming especially my micro adjustments, posture, reflexes, and overall comfortability were. I aim trained for a bit on warmup servers on CSGO but didnt get much progress. My hands started cramping really bad so I gave up. Its been a few days and its getting slightly better but I still went to sleep tn sad asf with cramping hands. But I really dont know how I used to have such good aim compared to how i'm performing now. Its genuinely sad to think about it 😭😭😭😭😭
@jaffry17073 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jianshen22233 жыл бұрын
I feel like my pinky gets like trapped under the mouse if that makes sense. Its like the flesh gets rolled under the mouse instead of gliding smoothlt
@kokoss6196 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video or give me some task how to get a relaxed hand while aiming, I always put so much pressure that my aim ist stuttering
@SK1LAH3 жыл бұрын
Ron, what about mouses like MM720 where your ring finger lay on some 'shelf'?
@alexiberthe25743 жыл бұрын
The forbidden one : the guy who uses the same finger for left AND right click
@meh65133 жыл бұрын
Technically I do that in Minecraft since I use both index finger and middle finger on both left and right button on mouse to clicking both buttons 10 times per second
@meh65133 жыл бұрын
Each button at a time clicking method is called butterfly clicking
@hapwn3 жыл бұрын
I find doing 5 min of dm is sufficient enough (when comfortable), if you're not new to fps; mostly because it's all in the mind. One thing I will factor in is cloth pads lol. Some days it's rough.
@spanky00893 жыл бұрын
best video ever
@sourav21493 жыл бұрын
3:02 ethoz grip r there
@thebilliast44663 жыл бұрын
did you cut the cable off your mouse?
@Ryuzaki843 жыл бұрын
That is a broken mouse I think.
@untrue60603 жыл бұрын
@@Ryuzaki84 tf? Are all of u crazy of something?
@asdfkjhlk343 жыл бұрын
@@untrue6060 it's a mouse that broke so he cut the cable off it and uses it when demonstrating things
@amonniyvii92268 ай бұрын
Just buy muse with platforms for all fingers
@alexandercooper93453 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know your thoughts about trfy MZ1(mostly known as Zy's Rail). Creator of this mouse said that is best mouse for finger tip grip
@doomeR_0073 жыл бұрын
I always use my pinky as brakes for my mouse since my sens is high lol
@nelsonirizarry772 жыл бұрын
guys u can try too pressure iur wrist for those pink and tumb user
@niloykesslar24473 жыл бұрын
Is that Zowie ZA12 or ZA13? What do you recommend for 18.5/10 cm hands?
@technochun43253 жыл бұрын
its an fk2, there are side buttons on the right side
@skateandmore3 жыл бұрын
@@technochun4325 The first versions (ZA12-A / ZA13-A) had side buttons on both sides ;) Hump is too high to be an FK2.
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
Think it's a za12
@NickSharpx3 жыл бұрын
@@greippuli9166 I am also pretty sure it's a ZA12, but it looked like it's been painted gray all over? Except the scroll wheel at least
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
@@NickSharpx it is
@TheBigdummi2 жыл бұрын
I palm grip, should my pinky be touching my bad, or should you have no fingers touch any part of it? Thanks
@l2blink3372 жыл бұрын
but sometimes when u put my fingertips on my pad it feels rouch and bad but sometimes it feels good and soft
@justin-hurd3 жыл бұрын
Hi ron, I had a question, what are your thoughts on using mouse acceloration like the new rawaccel?
@pierre2898 Жыл бұрын
My mouse always slightly pinches my skin of my pinky causing it to gets stuck momentarily.
@10q363 жыл бұрын
im 131grip so no finger on mousepad. idk 131grip is good or bad, but cant fix it cuz its my habit
@toxin32022 жыл бұрын
Question. Why does it feel unequal to turn one direction. As in turning right feels uncomfortable or vice versa. I’ve tried many grips and readjustments. Forced myself to stick with them for weeks at a time. Nothing feels comfortable. When it comes to look at the screen and moving around it simply feels unequal and an annoyance to even play.
@willl_0073 жыл бұрын
should you aim train before or after playing?
@LegendLuna2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I thought I was the only one that did the out extended pinky , wondered if that was bad for my aim 😳
@godofm3tal13 жыл бұрын
only problem I've found with my fingers touching is it feels like when i need to go quickly one direction or another, a piece of the finger kinda gets wedged between the pad and the mouse and trapped in there just enough to throw off my aim a bit and cost me a life in some cases. like it's inconsistent
@ArsonPeaPlayz3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, I was wondering if this was normal for FPS Players. Like, I haven't played a single FPS game for 2 months and when I return I somehow am able to aim better and have a better mindset on what to do.
@notparticularly89703 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you also do one with Niko's mouse grip I found some old vids with a better view of his mouse for reference but I can't really get any proper insights
@Mike__melvin3 жыл бұрын
Huddled name drop!!!
@sej94123 жыл бұрын
Hi Rambo, when converting sens from game to game, Will using the same edpi work even if the games have different FoVs?
@RonRamboKim3 жыл бұрын
Sens will feel different between game engines and also if using different fov
@tracking84673 жыл бұрын
Ima need info on that wireless za
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
Just cut the cable off and you get that
@nayefwasith18963 жыл бұрын
I clicked your video and I was greeted with a valorant aimbot advertisement..what an irony..XD
@walterthecat21452 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask that is a really nice mouse and then i realised
@vinsju9713 жыл бұрын
If I feel uncomfortable with my fingertip touching the mousepad, should I continue and learning it or stop using it? Please tell me
@MICROKNIGHT30003 жыл бұрын
I'd say stop
@vinsju9713 жыл бұрын
@@MICROKNIGHT3000 okay thanks
@awttygaming2510 Жыл бұрын
what's better for high sense I use 1600dpi and 1.6 in apex I'm slowly getting used to it but I feel like when I have my wrist and fingers on the mouse pad i drag way to much idk what I'm doing wrong there but ya its been a issue I'm trying to play with my hands above it now but its feels weird
@travisjansen13373 жыл бұрын
mousepad in the vid?
@AsicEdits3 жыл бұрын
I got my hand/forearm tilted a little to my pinky side, so the weight is on my pinky is this bad ?
@Vexcenot Жыл бұрын
Hey that's a nice wireless mouse I wonder what model it is Oh.....
@pyem45633 жыл бұрын
when you can feel your mouse, you know you are gaming.
@Rose-ng2zp8 ай бұрын
What's the mouse he's holding?
@Hoowwwww3 жыл бұрын
i personally don't move my hand at all, only just my fingers i get precise movement and i'm never have a tired hand, fingers are more flexible and precise
@akeviklund43943 жыл бұрын
What kind of edpi do you run lol
@ihann1baL6663 жыл бұрын
Where when in doubt pinky out comes from
@abdoplays91283 жыл бұрын
can u do a video about best mousepads ?
@chihun39813 жыл бұрын
like which type is best? ron rambo kim made a video on cloth vs hard if ur looking for a specific product, i got nothing.
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
Xtrfy gp4 if you want control
@abdoplays91283 жыл бұрын
@@chihun3981 i know this video but i want a recommended products
@Lunnariot Жыл бұрын
WHICH MOUSE PAD IS THAT?
@auggery1563 жыл бұрын
when i first started playing FPS games i had my mouse DPI to its highest setting bc i was coming from osu! 💀💀💀💀
@bobbyweenus3 жыл бұрын
Who was the sniper with that forward claw grip you referenced?
@RonRamboKim3 жыл бұрын
Danny
@mr.frighty1473 жыл бұрын
dyac on or off ?
@krift35203 жыл бұрын
what mousepad is that?
@chiapet1013 жыл бұрын
kinda looks like the artisan hayata otsu
@seigemain3 жыл бұрын
nice, i do this aswell
@capypullup86863 жыл бұрын
Rollers have no idea how hard being accurate with a mouse is. but then again, we have our whole arm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@thegrandmarshal84433 жыл бұрын
Ну все видос посмотрел теперь онли хедшоты в голову буду вешать
@_Juizyy_3 жыл бұрын
Ахахахах
@mist773 жыл бұрын
I change my grip while playing without even thinking will that effect me?\
@RonRamboKim3 жыл бұрын
Effects consistency
@mist773 жыл бұрын
@@RonRamboKim any tips on fixing that?
@Art-vs6vx3 жыл бұрын
@@mist77 Just do it consciously all the time
@rio14083 жыл бұрын
My aim is kinda bad Ron Rambo Kim with the big brain tips
@crymeariver91413 жыл бұрын
What's your grip? Mouse table? Do you rest your entire forearm to the table? How close do you sit to your monitor
@rio14083 жыл бұрын
@@crymeariver9141 claw grip, artisan mouse pad on desk, only part of forearm on table, and I sit probably about 8 inches to a foot from my monitor
@crymeariver91413 жыл бұрын
@@rio1408 What sens are you exactly using?
@greippuli91663 жыл бұрын
@@crymeariver9141 Bruh, he has an artisan pad. He knows what he's doing xD
@Datdreadhead23 жыл бұрын
@@crymeariver9141 I use a chair handle for my arm rest do you think thats a good idea bro?
@gensfps Жыл бұрын
Tenz mouse grip.
@watchme96923 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for that zowie mouse that got ruined for this video :(
@tokeninja19962 жыл бұрын
Whenever my finger slipped off my mouse onto the pad I subconsciously feel like the mouse is gonna eat my finger and my brain suddenly stops moving my hand.