243 Winchester M70 Comes Out of Retirement

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

My brother has his original M70 from I *think* 62 or 63 in .243. I doubt that 100 rounds have been through that rifle for 2 reasons. 1. My brother is a natural born shooting phenom. I don't believe he's ever fired more than one shot out of that rifle at any game animal as he never had the need. A true 1 and done shooter. 2. While shooting larger mule deer and Bull elk, he moved up to another pre-64 M70, my father's Win in .270. ( My Dad moved to a Sako 7mm Rem Mag) which was his preferred rifle until he passed away. In any event, my bro (in his mid 70's now) remains a 1/4 to 1/2 MOA shot with either his .270 or .243. Down the bore, both rifles after what, 60 years? remain immaculate. Winchester's finest ever imho.

[@easttexan2933]

seerat....you are correct sir. Pre64 Mod 70 is the finest hunting rifle ever made. I've "owned" several (30-06, 308, 270, 243) and they all shot sub MOA with the barrel screwed to the stock. So much for the myth about "free floating the barrel for best accuracy". I have a custom Swedish Mauser Model 96 in 6.5x55 with a 1912 receiver date that shoots sub MOA (usually 3 touching) and it is one of the nicest looking rifles a man could ever want. I've had it since 2000. Love the cartridge. I also shoot a Ruger M77 in 7x57 but it is not a sub MOA rifle, but close. Love that cartridge also. If I handloaded it probably could be a sub MOA rifle. I'm 78 and I too am a 1 Shot phenom lol. I haven't followed a blood trail in 25 years. It's all about bullet placement. Dead center of the front shoulder. Drop in their tracks. 1 and done lol.

[@keithprinn720]

cant see why change from a great calibre personally, great rifle and useful versatile calibre without ridiculous recoil that too many think they need.

[@Eisenhower42]

Actually, guys, on Pre-64 Featherweights, the aluminum butt plate is supposed to be unfinished (bare aluminum) on the sides. That's correct for the rifle.

[@jamiehurtt3530]

Later pre 64 featjerweight rifles say around 1960 and later came with plastic buttplates

[@jasonsimone3523]

Exactly, don't know much for a gun writer!

[@Eisenhower42]

@@jasonsimone3523 Ron is a national treasure and knows infinitely more about hunting and shooting than I ever will. Collector esoterica is not for everyone.

[@SteveRoyer-t6e]

Good to know, thanks.

[@WMG7x57]

The only rifles with the stock screw in the forend were rifles with a rear sight boss on the barrel.

[@24kachina]

Wow. 2 gorgeous rifles. I'm 56 years struggling to stay young and have always liked traditional wood stocks and despised synthetic stuff. 9 years ago when my son was 10 I got him a Ruger M77 Hawkeye .243 with a 20 inch matte stainless barrel. It's a classic rifle, light and nifty, perfect for our southern AZ Coues whitetail and javelina. Neat to see both of those - the stock on Ron's is GORGEOUS.

[@dalesustaire3279]

I just Today bought a 1957 winchester model 70 .243 and it looks exactly like this rifle ! I'm sooo happy : ) It's a Featherweight with 22" barrel.

[@williambarry8015]

👍👍

[@texasyotehunter2964]

My first rifle was a Remington m 700 in .243. That was just over 50 years ago and I still have it with the original scope I bought from Gibson’s back then. Still shoots as accurate as ever. I’ve taken several deer, hogs and coyotes with it. My caliber collection has grown over the years but the .243 still gets its turn in the field now and then.

[@QD85]

I have one that was made in 1968 that’s a 243 win too. It shoots lights out with basic 100gr ammo. Took my biggest whitetail to date with that rifle.

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

The Winchester Model 70 isn't called "The Rifleman's Rifle" for nothing! It is pretty rare to find someone capable of out-shooting their M70... they're that good.

[@jerryconrad2737]

Older man and older rifle getting it done well. From another older man thanks for the video really enjoyed it.

[@jerad4336]

243 is one of my favorite cartridges.

[@edwardabrams4972]

Those old rifles are just like us old guys hanging in there and still getting the job done🙌

[@detroitiron302]

I just took possession of my late grandfather's 1948 M70 in 30-06. He bought it new. It's still got the Weaver K4 that he installed sometime later. It's not been fired since the late Eighties or early Nineties. With cheap Herters 180 grain ammo, it immediately punched out a perfect 1" group 3 inches high at 100 yards and smacked the small plate at 300 on the first shot. No reason to touch anything. It'll go hunting soon.

[@Hock3y24k]

My browning ab3 I bought for 300 bucks on gander mtn clearance shoots sub .5 moa with Winchester silver tip 95 grains!

[@mitchelljones8442]

You are absolutely right about doing things while you can. I had two heart attacks earlier this year, and I am noticing several things are slipping away. I can still handle everything well enough to hunt, but no longer by myself. I will need help getting the deer out of the woods, but I will still be out there chasing them. Just not quite as fast. LoL! My Winchester mod 70 was made in '68 and is chambered in .270win. It was the rifle I took my first deer with a high powered rifle with.

[@jimmycaltabellatta5575]

All early featherweight rifles had that aluminum butt that was silver on the sides until the later models and a plastic butt

[@rogerf7265]

My dad had a Model 70 .338 Alaskan that he bought new in 1958 and he used that same Balvar scope right in it right up until he died in 2016. That setup was the only thing that he used for Roosevelt Elk and Mule Deer in Oregon.

[@Lemur70]

Ron, love the show. Keep Steve coming back. Love watching you two.

[@ronbeckybeasley3566]

There has never been and never will be a better rifle than the Model 70. They are absolutely flawless

[@Accuracy1st]

Sure there has been, and still is....Sako, Blaser, Cooper to name a few

[@MrCobb-rq8iv]

@@Accuracy1st And Howa by 2.5 inches. LOL

[@Accuracy1st]

@@MrCobb-rq8iv And Tikka

[@Accuracy1st]

@@Simon-talks Very nice - yes, best, hardly

[@johnsmith-ek8mf]

I have a new M70 and also Sako 85s. Love both but I think the Sako is nicer.

[@jerryshowens3049]

That was cool. I'm 64 and I love the old .243. I've got a 1994 Savage Model 110.

[@easttexan2933]

Ron, the Pre64 Mod 70 is the finest hunting rifle ever made. I've "owned" several (30-06, 308, 270, 243) and they all shot sub MOA with the barrel screwed to the stock. So much for the myth about "free floating the barrel for best accuracy". Two things I would change: 1) get some large Shoot and See targets so you can actually see your hits through your scope. You will be amazed at how easy shooting becomes. 2) You personally need to upgrade from 9x to 14x or greater with fine crosshairs until you can see the outer edges of the bullseye beyond the crosshair intersection. Both my 4.5-14 scopes have that fine crosshair which enables me to actually see the center of the bullseye and it is not covered by the crosshair intersection. You can't hit what you can't see I've heard.

[@gabeharris1016]

Ron makes me so happy! So genuine and knowledgeable. Great video

[@peterparsons7141]

My friend was selling the pair that his father bought new is early 60’s. These were their deer hunting rifles, one in .243 the other .308. These were hunting rifles and had limited mileage , well maintained, spotless, used. And offered at a very fair price $800 each. Nice rifles and there seems to be a real following for these rifles. Someone was thrilled to get them, but not me. The only thing I don’t like is the magazine feed system. Similar quality modern rifles can be very pricey so it’s understandable why knowledgeable shooters snap them up.

[@Winchester70Nut]

1984 was the 1st year Winchester made a true short action in the model 70s until then they used spacers in the magazines to compensate for the short cartridges

[@michaelthompson462]

I've got a Model 70 youth ranger 243. It was my first rifle 25 years ago and it is a tack driver with 100 gr core lokts. Long as I do my part it will easily group 3 shots under a dime at 100 yards.

[@jasonforester4572]

Warning: Hey Ron. You got wasps building a nest in your shooting table!!! Look just forward of that rear table leg at 9:10 😬 But speaking of .243 Win. I've enjoyed shooting sports for over 40 years. Many rifles. Many cals. But I only recently got my first .243 about two months ago! Can you believe that?! It's a Sako L579.

[@lmbear]

Sweet old rifle. Looks like it's been shot a bit. You are wrong about the aluminum edge on the butt plate. They were left raw on the edge, but anodized on the rest of the plate. Don't mess too much with that stock, or you will start taking away originality. That reduces value!! However, the stock looks to have been refinished at one point in time. That 1956 is a great year. I have a few made in that year. They all shoot sub moa. Excellent rifles. You have a nice one there. Ron has some good info on the .244 Rem and 243 win here. Winchester was smart, and twisted these right. 1 in 10" twist. Ron, that is a featherweight model, that is why it doesn't have a barrel boss and barrel tension screw. The std weight pre 64's had the barrel tension screw that went through the stock and into the barrel boss. The featherweights are my favorites, and they tend to shoot very well.

[@hamishbarker4117]

Great video. I love old rifles. They are a whole lot more interesting than most of the new ones these days, and their engineering and their history are just cool. 😎 I'm going on a hunt next week with a Savage 1899 in 250-Savage made in 1923 it's over twice as old as me, and I'm more excited about taking the old rifle than any modern one. Thanks for another great video.

[@rosswitte]

Try using a barrel cooler. They are easy to set up and very cheap. It helps cool the barrel faster which is especially helpful when filming.

[@SamuraiAkechi]

Fantastic rifle. And it came from factory with iron sights, something most manufacturers don't bother with anymore. And that Baush & Lomb is a quite unusual thing for anyone who isn't a US-born oldtimer. Damn it's hard to find a CRF rifle that would be factory new, that would come with irons and would be reasonably priced.

[@elvinirons5959]

Hard to beat some of those old school weapons, I’m looking at a older model 70 in 243 myself as I send this message , I’ve been a 30 cal guy my whole life but with age I like the less recoil of these weapons !!

[@nmelkhunter1]

Beautiful rifle in an awesome cartridge. Thank you for sharing the fun!

[@timsmithoutdoors]

That is one beautiful piece of equipment

[@triplehelper6944]

I inherited my aunts browning abolt 1 in 243 a few years ago. I put an sig scope on it and shot a .4 inch group on the first try with hornaday whitetail 100 grain. I about crapped my pants how good it did.

[@ricktaylor5744]

Good to see you young bucks have fun. Keep it up.

[@fixincrap3729]

Love this... I have a 1955 m70 .243 Featherweight s/n 333xxx. It has a straight 10x Bushnell scope. I bought it at a pawn shop for $270 about 20 yrs ago. Three shots at 100 yds looks like a cloverleaf. My favorite rifle. Keep up the good work. Love the content.

[@Joe-lk6oc]

Great video guys, I really enjoyed listening and watching. KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@michaeldavidblunt]

That old scope is worth savings. I have the B&L Balvar 3x9x40 and the glass is crystal clear.

[@scottscheuerman8714]

Love those old pre 64 model 70 Winchester that one looks nice

[@mogulrider]

Every one of my Remington 788s 243,308, 30-30, and 44 Mag all print excellent sub-moa. The working man's rifle of yesterday (60yrs ago) still beats 95% of all rifles.All 4 were probably cheaper together than this one alone. Amazing hunting rifles these are.

[@bobdufresne6294]

That’s a SEXY Kimber Ron, and I love me a black rifle (or 10!) but that old Model 70 is the BEES KNEES!! Love that’ll get those tiny groups. My family heirloom, field grade, pre-64 M70, .270 loves the Barnes bullets too. Absolutely keep grandads rifles rocking.

[@jigsawpulse1139]

Great episode. Thank you

[@IRishbuck58]

Great one for us old guys love it

[@glennglover4479]

Speer used to make a 105 that was amazing on deer and coyotes.

[@Lws-Burnett]

Looks like you have a bees nest under your table shooter side watch around 9min and 8sec you will see the bee fly in and walk into a whole Ron just saving ya from stringer lol

[@williamgaines9784]

I saw it too, could not tell if a wasp or dirt dauber.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

There was a nest of wasps under there. We discovered and eradicated before anyone got stung.

[@williamgaines9784]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast If you leave your chair/stool out there as well, check under it before sitting down or dragging it over as well...wasps nest quickly.

[@Derek-ls3wg]

Awesome.

[@victortenorio5023]

Hello from Wisconsin. I enjoyed this video, thanks guys for sharing your knowledge and experience.

[@craigalchin272]

I just recently picked up a pre 64 mod 70 in 264win mag, beautiful rifle and still so smooth and accurate all these years later. So happy with it

[@kentearly805]

I have my Dads model 721 in .30 06 made in 1958. One of the most accurate rifles in my safe!

[@bentaylor216]

Great, fun video. Thanks.

[@dyolf1000]

Great subject. The rifle is pretty cool too. I managed to put some venison in our freezer as a kid with a Model 70 featherweight in .243. It wasn’t vintage like this one, but it was still a damn nice piece.

[@philipfreeman72]

I ran into some guys in AK who used 243 for AK bears . I was carrying 8 x 57 .

[@woodsmn8047]

I had a Remington 700ADL in .243 that shot amazingly well also ...I always thought it was just the .243 cartridge that was so acurate

[@ysteinkristiansen]

243 win rule. I love my old Remington 788 and new Tikka T3 in that caliber 😁

[@Lycos_ZA]

Ron, on a whole different note. That wasp that made a nest under or in your shooting bench might cause you some trouble in the future. (09:10 in video)

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

I wondered who'd catch that. We didn't notice it until several weeks later when the colony was well developed. No one got stung and we removed the winged threats successfully.

[@Lycos_ZA]

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast good to hear nobody was stung!! Keep up the good work. I'm enjoying your videos and even having my dad watching your videos. All the way from South Africa.

[@30321495]

That's awesome! Love the advice for enjoying it while you can! Thanks!!!

[@joshh5853]

The Model 70 is a cool find but I think Ron has been holding out, that Kimber is one pretty rifle. I never owned a 243 until a couple years ago, now I’m convinced that most deer hunters don’t really need anything more.

[@stephenelrod1069]

I wonder how they accomplished such perfection, and how they lost it ?? Nice video gentlemen.

[@k9six185]

I have a 1974 version in 30.06 that I have not shot (just got it)….this gives me hope that it will print well

[@HowManyLegsItHas]

Proof that load development works.

[@paul7754]

I'm almost 65 and looking forward to doing this in my retirement. I've a few rifles I'd like to spend some time with - some I've never shot - haven't even mounted a scope yet. One of those rifles is a post '64 model 70 but when they reintroduced the 'control feed' for a few years in a different caliber each year. The one I have is in 30-06 - don't remember the year. Have a Rem mdl 721 also.

[@boygirlandadad5814]

This is the undisputed Creedmoor channel! I just read, from a very reputable source, that when developing the 22 Creedmoor they tried to use the 243 Winchester case to parent off of but they had feeding issues with it. Then they tried the 6.5 Creedmoor case as the parent case and it worked great with no issues at all! Amazing! The world has gone nuts.😂

[@andrewboore3899]

Awesome content! More pre 64 model 70 content if you can!

[@1boortzfan]

This is so cool. It makes me want a M70.

[@terryhenry8243]

Nice rifle! Had a like new fwt .243 I traded to a brick Mason for a bunch of brickwork on my house. I don't even own the house anymore, or the pre 64 M-70. Dummies will be dummies!

[@heerkrupp64]

Old is New again, Good video.

[@scottscheuerman8714]

The the forward screw wasn’t on the the feather weight rifles only on the standard weight guns

[@garryharris9098]

They are really good rifles mainly because the older ones were designed and manufactured in a time when a rifle was designed and built with the person buying it in mind, not stamped and thrown together with profit king. The one i own is a beauty. However, the mauser i have is a 98, and although it was built for the Argentien military, it has been (sporterized) by someone in the past and is a smoother action. The 788 Remington was built as cheaply as possible. It looks like it was sanded with a brick and painter with a broom, but with an 85gr Bthp, it is as accurate as anything i have shot. But I've reloaded since the late 70s, and with a 264 win mag, you pretty much need to.

[@lorentcase1023]

Excellent video ! Thank you guys !

[@pauldickson1495]

Thanks for making a video of a classic gun . The new model 70 are just as good if not better then the the pre 64.

[@BullseyeBenR]

I wasn’t born till 1992. My CZ combo 12gauge/30-06 was made in the 70’s and in mint condition! I have a few videos showing it off

[@michaelwilson9986]

That old scope is neat n still as clear as todays in many cases. Several different mounting systems for. Mine on a pre64 isnt a heavy as mentioned here. One could remove scope from 1 Rifle n stick on another with the same mounts already zeroed n go.

[@michaelwilson9986]

By the way one mount adjusted windage on elevation. The rings held a rod that was spring loaded clamp that fit into base sections. Done right they held.. B&L n Seprate Copy brand were the most common in my experience.

[@jamiehurtt3530]

Ive ownrd seversl pre 64 win model 70s .all shoot better than any other rifles i ever owned

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

I found the longer action with .308win rounds has much bigger potential for jamming. If you do not pull the bolt far enough back to eject the spent cartridge, it will pick up a new round when you push it forward and jam the emty with the new round into the chamber

[@dinoquintana4319]

Ron i have the granddaddy of the mountain rifle. The savage model 1920.250/3000 savage this rifle Made in 1920 weighs 5lbs 7 onces with a 24 in barrel.savage was a genius and also designed the savage 99,arguably the best lever rifle ever.savage or the brass at savage buried the cartridge at birth by twisting the rifling 1 in 14 most rifles will only stabilize 90 grain bullets.both my 99 and my 1920 will stabilize hornady 120 round nose bullet.a mini 180 grain 3006.266 sd at 2800fps I would not hesitate to kill an elk at 200 yd with either rifle,but thats what my 99 in300 savage is for.ilove winchester bolts too and have a 1st year 4 digit model 54 in 3006 that shoots 1nch all day with its lyman receiver sight.great video my best fellasñĥ

[@kyle1562]

Ooooo that Kimber is nace

[@michaelwilson9986]

Well Done Congrats Steve.. I on the other hand still steamed bout a system quitch n call by a lgs on line auction that cost a Pre 64 243.Oh Well. Good Hunting to you n yiur dayghter.

[@Echowhiskeyone]

I have my Grandfather pre-64 M70 .243. It is worn in and shoot same as always. Rarely do you need a second shot. I considered this the best rifle until I got my pre-64 .30-06, and the .243 was still better at shorter ranges.

[@stephencooper5040]

More Steve on the channel. Clearly he knows handloading VERY well… maybe he could talk about his process for cooking up a custom load for an old rifle.

[@charlesmullins3238]

Have the fn spr 24” heavy .308 and made me a big mod70 fan..

[@MichaelLucas-c6u]

I'm a hasbeen but I had a rem700 243 that could do that at 300 paces long gone now

[@jfess1911]

Bringing up the density issue with copper bullets again. Lead is about 25% denser than copper and copper/zinc alloys. When comparing copper bullets against thin-jacketed cup and core, the lighter copper bullet will be physically larger for a given weight, often 20+%. In other words, the 80 grain Barnes is about the same size as a 100-grain cup and core, so not an unusually small bullet.

[@keithprinn720]

what a great rifle to enjoy set up great with a great quality scope. prefer the Leopold but understand setting it up with classic old school glass. in a great hunting rifle that isnt stupid big calibre. cant be easy finding great condition pre 64s 70s. otherwise to get a decent deer rifle or varmints get a Tikka or Bergara and do a few upgrades. without spending 5 grand plus glass and upgrades. just brilliant looking rig.

[@wisco_guy]

That rifle reminds me a lot of my Ruger M77 I was given from dad used to shoot my first buck. Ron, with the increasing popularity of AR-10s being used for hunting, will you ever review them? My Daniel Defense .308 is handy and extremely accurate. Thanks!

[@zayacz123]

I was born in 1955 too!

[@chuckkulick8635]

Boy if you could find a pre 64 in 257 roberts would be a dream match keep lookin

[@calvinwebb3980]

Enjoyed the video. Now I just want both of them rifles.

[@yukon4545]

Sooper pooper I have the B&L Kuharsky mount with B&L 4 power on a 1959 Remington 742, Carbine, 280 Remington. I have another mount for another 742, 30-06 and a B&L BalVar 3x9. Winter project! 😀 Quite the system. Once the mount is 'sighted in', you can switch the scope to different rifles! Make a good video? 🤔

[@terryhenry8243]

BTW, that aluminum buttplate is correct. The early fwts used the black aluminum body with the rough polish border. The last rifles lost that nice touch as they utilized a black plastic butt that was not nearly as attractive.

[@rogerpaulsen8321]

I don't recall ever seeing a white line spacer on a M70 . I thought it was a Remington thing.

[@jimolson8424]

Old scopes are good until the O rings leak. Had a Redfield until it was gone. Miss it today.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

Something about those wide screen Redfields you may already know, but other might not, is that the "wide" view was accomplished by merely blocking the top and bottom of the typical circle of light that all optical scopes, telescopes and binoculars transmit. This format actually sacrificed the quantity of light reaching your eye in order to give the impression of a wider field of view. But hunters loved them and they worked, so...

[@pappacharlie3126]

AI it! Nice rifle.

[@blumountian]

My grandpa has this exact rifle. All of my dads generation shot their first deer with it, all of my generation shot their first deer with it. I have heard of my grandpa shooting elk in the head off the back of a horse at just under five hundred yards with it and all of us boys over the next 40 years were never posting more than a 1 1/4” group. We were regularly stacking holes with it using the same scope and rings he got when he got the rifle. I’m not sure what his load was, I still have some but I’m not sure yet on how to figure out the load by disassembling one. What I do know is he used a lower pressure load, low enough that he would shoot the one, take the gun back inside and reload the case right after and put it back in the gun. One case had over 20 loads put through it.

[@ntokozodlamini8426]

Good day Ron and Steve. Steve I hope this one doesn't have a sleeve in the chamber like that 300 H&H pre 64 Winchester 😅

[@greggutierrez7870]

I'm in CA and have acquired my older brothers M70 243 after he passed away. I'm trying to develop a load using the TTSX projectiles and was wondering if Steve would share his load data for his (good) group? I realize each rifle is unique but I bet it would be a great starting point.

[@michaelwilson9986]

22 mark comment on group.. Yes Sir Dittos I to dont know or care how its sound. Pre 64 or New I expect the same n have gotten more often than not.

[@johnbennett7244]

Ron: Good video. I love the Mod 70. Mine is in .270. Here is a question: Why have there never been mule deer east of the Mississippi? Has anyone ever tried to stock them in, say, New England or the Appalachians? Thanks.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

Thanks John. Mule deer evolved, according to the mitochondrial DNA research, some 10,000 years ago when whitetails mated with blacktails in the Pacific Northwest. Mule deer predator escape strategy is to leap up and away via stotting (that four legged hop/jump they do) toward higher ground from which they can see both threats and escape routes. They then run away, usually uphill, with the ability to turn on a dime in any direction thanks to that four legged stotting action. This doesn't work well in typical thick cover in the East. But there is also the migration corridor block of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers. Mule deer negotiated around the Missouri by rounding it in North Montana, then moving down along it, but even in central South Dakota's Missouri River hills they are fairly rare on the east side of the river. The farther east you go, the fewer you find. They have been recorded in several Minnesota counties, but the habitat and terrain just don't seem to favor their survival. This is the way of all life on earth. Each species is variably adapted to thrive in specific conditions/habitats. Some are more universally successful (generalists like whitetails, black bears, coyotes, ospreys, cougars) while others are more specialized (like polar bears, swift foxes, ocelots.)

[@terryhenry8243]

Another tip Ron! That 3rd screw was found, and correct on the standard rifle forearm, not the fwts. The standard rifle in 243 wore a 24" barrel with a slightly different contoured barrel and of course the 3rd screw in the forearm.The fwt had a 22" barrel, 2 action screws and a fwt profiled barrel. Winchesters total production # for the .243 was 43,618 units. The standard version represented 6,812 of total 243 production. As the numbers show the standard was a much rarer rifle. In any case your friend in this clip has himself a very nice rifle and you can pass that along. Thanks for the great shows!

[@craiglacount89]

@@terryhenry8243 they also made 243’s in varmint and target they both had 26” heavy (MH) stainless steel is barrels. FWT super grades and standard super grades were also made. The rarest of all is the FWT super grades but the standard super grades are also very rare, just a few hundred of each ever made, followed by the target (650 to 700) and just over 4600 varmints. This all pertains to pre 64 production. I believe the only 243’s with barrel screws were the standard and the super grade standard.

[@terryhenry8243]

@craiglacount89 You are correct. My comment simply referred to the 2 or 3 screw question that came about in Ron's presentation. The numbers I stated were simply total production numbers and the difference between the fwt and standard rifle. The 2 or 3 screw question still applies to the super grade rifles whether they might be a standard or fwt super grade. The varmint model you spoke of I believe is still part of the total production number of pre-64 .243 rifles. I could be wrong but I also believe the super grades represent a part of that total production as well, just a much smaller portion. Take care!

[@Westerner_]

Imagine paying $1500+ for a new fangled push fed composite stock rifle when you can get a piece of history like this for about the same price!

[@lancekrystoff9619]

Sure… And the “Old” rifle is likely to be heavier. Wood is pretty, but in itself is a heavier material, not to mention that it’s not nearly as weather resistant. I like rifles of all ages and types. Pretty, old guns are great. It’s even fun to hunt with them from time to time. However, when I have to stomp for miles up and down the mountain and across canyons and draws chasing elk or mule deer….Give me one of those “composite stock rifles” any day of the week. To each their own, however.

[@caileanmacanndraigh8580]

What a great video. All this does is make me want another one. Hey Rom I often see your 7mm book on your desk. As you know me from Scotland I wrote to you about the versatility of the 458 win mag. Where can I get a copy of your 7mm book. I’m so impressed with your 7x57 knowledge and praise. I wrote to you that I am building a 7x57 on one of my rolling blocks. I’d appreciate any advice you can give twist rate ideal barrel length and weight etc any advice would be great I want your book where do I send the money. I’m still a patreon and a loyal fan my son too Cailean

[@zandvoort8616]

Can you please make some what I eat in a day videos to remain so slim? Thanks.

[@craigbruske6866]

Thanks for NOT telling us what the load was.

[@edwardabrams4972]

Ya just because it shoots good in his gun doesn’t mean it’s going to shoot good in your rifle😳 60+ years of reloading hunting and being a rifle collector and ever hunter needs to find what good in his rifle🙌

[@craigbruske6866]

@@edwardabrams4972 lol been reloading a very long time myself. I’ve found that your comment is basically false.

[@garryharris9098]

Mine does well with 37.5 gr imr 4064 and sierra 85gr Bthp