Roofing | Shingles vs Metal and the Real Problems with Both

[@timbarry5080]

I moved to the south recently and was surprised by all the metal roofs. I would think they would transfer heat into the structure, but I don't know. For that reason I would vote for putting battons between the metal and the sheathing. But again, I'm just guessing.

[@LarryisControversial3000]

The metal roofing (at least with higher quality manufacturers) have a coating that reflects the vast majority of heat. Which is why the snow melts off during the winter, only requires a little solar energy to do the job.

[@ILikeWafflz]

Tim Barry I think metal roofs are a little better in hot climates. Here in south Texas, they're fairly common (asphalt shingles are still the most common though), and they last a longer than shingles; at least, the shingles that get installed on mobile homes. We install perlins because 1/2" decking is just not enough bite for the screws, and, in light of a comment I saw here, we've recently changed to the XLM screws; a more expensive but much better design than the other ones. 99.9% of our roofing is on mobile homes and their additions, where you'll run into every type of frame and attic space there is, so I can't speak for how well it actually works on normal houses.

[@beachboardfan9544]

Damn, imagine having to mow around that zigzag fence!

[@lorenrickey5481]

MOM, THERE'S A MAN ON THE ROOF TALKING TO HIMSELF!

[@Danny-fs1hk]

Loren Rickey 😂

[@rodgerabraham7664]

Lol

[@walterconstructionsolution1352]

The reason the screws back out is because there screwed directly to the osb instead of 1/4 slats. It’s much harder to pull a screw out of a 1/4 compared to osb. So you definitely need to install 1/4’s

[@JFAM077]

Thank you. Helped me to make a decision. We are going to start building soon in Idaho.

[@quickguesswho]

I definitely wanted a metal roof on my house but it was too much for what I wanted. Thick gauge and visible nails. Went with regular roof and ice and water shield over the whole roof instead.

[@tzimme7639]

A few things I'd add to your video. First, metal roofs are far superior to shingle roofs if you live in wetter regions. In the south, it rains alot after hot and humid days and the change in temperature can cause shingles to heat and contract and lose their granules. Until you've gone through a shingle warranty (scam) replacement, a "30 year shingle roof" doesn't mean if it doesn't last for 30 years, you get a new one. They'll depreciate it a good bit. I've had customers get a tenth of the cost back after having the roof for 10 years. Call around with metal roof prices. I paid $140 a square more for standing seam and that is worth it in the long run. Lastly, if you have a roofer that is going to put strips, make sure he puts a grid because simply laying strips across paralleling the ridge line will cause air pockets. I go straight to decking per metal paint warranty specs.

[@mobleyMobley]

What about aluminum or stone coated shingles? Permalock vs. Reinke vs. Decra?

[@totalpkg6912]

good info was considering metal yes expensive

[@ronaldbilar7503]

I was a UL inspector for 28 years and inspected a roofing Mfg. Shingles were good when they were made with felt . The change came with fiberglass they had to increase the amount of limestone in the asphalt to bound to the fiberglass. Asphalt is what holds everything tougher! The Mfg. has a saying. Its more expensive to make horse shit than singles!

[@CMM5300]

I didn't know the metal expands and contracts.... um, maybe it's the wood that expands and contracts underneath. Either way good to know. Thanks.

[@diggingupnorth3453]

nope. Metal 100% expands and contacts. look at standing seam roof on a hot day vs. cool day and on the hot days you will see ripples in it. its called "oil-canning" from the expansion

[@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS]

Thank you!!!

[@algorhythm4593]

I keep seeing in the comments section "...if installed properly". I know what that means. But I'm asking, " WHAT IN THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN?!?!?!" This day in age, with disreputable contractors (VERY COMMON-almost epidemic, actually), the FACT that there is RARELY ever standardization in the training of home construction tradesmen (not from the individual contractors, to the larger firms, to the manufacturers whose products they use in their craft, etc.) Just because the final structure looks nice DOES NOT mean it is! Many times there's TONS of cover-ups. THEN, finally, when things go awry for the homeowner (who is generally the real victim here) everyone else stands around pointing the finger at everyone else. "...If installed properly", ...indeed. Turns my stomach that you'd even have to preface/add that. Thought we were all MEN, here...at least, that is, I always thought you had to be honest, to do the highest quality workmanship, to work an honest day for an honest dollar (for starters) to even be considered a man. Sad to see the effeminization that's gone on... ):

[@titusneumann3899]

Products are always changing trade practices are changing warranties are prorated don’t cover the homeowner. So if somebody is telling you something is too good to be true it probably is too good to be true. For a while there they believe in making your house so tight now you got whole development rotting inside out. A lot of these things or even city code. So trade practices change really what you need is need somebody that has years and years of experience to know what does work and what does it.. Unfortunately that means that’s gonna cost A homeowner more money. A homeowner always wants the cheapest bid but the best quality. Rarely that will ever play out. Homeowners like to pay more for material but less for a contractor just the way it is. My suggestion as a contractor has to spend less money on material/ use your savings app material to get better contractors be that electricians plumbers and so on. The blame is not always on the contractor.

[@dshurak827]

@@titusneumann3899 Amen

[@herbakers8417]

And everybody tells you that they do it right and there the best they lie like the

[@Withplaneandsaw]

Metal blocks cell service also

[@CL-gq3no]

True. If you have strong signal it probably won't matter, but if you get 1 or 2 bars in your yard then the metal roof will probably kill signal inside. I had to install a cell repeater in a rural home with a metal roof for this reason. 1 bar in the yard, zero indoors. With the cell repeater I got 3 bars inside though so there is a solution.

[@65commet]

You didn't metion or review edcos metal roof shingle roofs. Light, hidden attachments, tuck in shingles about the length of asphalt. It's sort of the debate about t-lock! A superior shingle inter woven and lasting YEARS. Oh no can't have that. Now there forbidden, buyer not allowed to decide. So what to do?

[@alanheadrick7997]

So metal roofs in Florida?

[@CL-gq3no]

@@Mike-ug8yc, true. Pretty much the only thing we do as standard in FL that makes sense is concrete block construction. However, that is mostly done for moisture/termite resistance reasons and it just happens to be good for wind too. White low profile standing seam metal roofs should be the logical standard in FL, but garbage 3 tab shingles or lower quality architectural shingles are most often used.

[@DarrylZubot]

Shingles are very bad for the environment. Wish you would’ve talked about the environmental impact between the two, this is important to millennials generation.

[@patty109109]

Darryl Zubot who else is tired of hearing about millennials and what is or isn’t important to them?

[@DarrylZubot]

patty109109 this is why we have cat 5 hurricanes every year now that destroy entire countries and states. Maybe you want to rethink your thinking.

[@bigmacattk]

As a millennial, and in sales, no one gives a rats arse. Going green is for hipsters, that usually too poor to own a home. Lol

[@DarrylZubot]

bigmacattk obviously I give a sh because I commented about it and I live in Alberta oil central. I fly the most fuel efficient survey aircraft on the planet and am building a net zero acreage home. So yes I care, I care about the people getting pummelled by 200mph winds every year by hurricanes even though we do not see the destruction of what we are doing to our planet, I will still do my part to give future generations a habitable planet. Sadly people will always do what is cheapest and best for themselves in the short term and not think of long term effects.

[@bigmacattk]

Darryl Zubot I think you reaffirmed my point when you said people go cheap. Majority of people (millennials as well), don’t care, unless there is some perceived monetary value (solar). The planet changes, and shifting jet streams have more to do 200mph winds than global warming does. Wanna really go green? Go the Thanos route, genocide. Seriously the population increases exponentially which each have a requirement for food, water, sanitation, energy, housing. Which in turn makes any green friendly movement pointless. Life increases way faster than technological adoption rates

[@tommyd7833]

As a former builder/designer......try to get a roofing manufacturer to give you a refund for bad shingles.....it doesn't happen......

[@JackJohnson-mc7ki]

Had to do an addition on a building with standing seam metal. The previous roofer used 3/4 slats to fir up the roof at 2ft oc. What I noticed was that when you step in between those slats, it's very weak and bends when you step in the non supported sections. Also noticed that the air space left from the 3/4 material left a runway for mice and hornets... Filled to the brim with mouse turds and urine...

[@wolverine82nd]

As a retired GC of over 40 years it is rewarding to see there are still craftsman out there doing their best to build a quality structure and home. Keep up the good work. God Bless. As for the roofing I will go with Certainteed anytime.

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

Jack Holt thanks brother.. appreciated

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

A standing seam metal roofing will last for more than fifty years if put on right. It will out last any shingles and stay on better too.

[@gregoryvschmidt]

Metal roofs are recyclable after their life span is up ( 50-100 years or more depending on pitch and maintenance), asphalt shingles are somewhat of an environmental disaster.

[@calebread6966]

Unless your local area has an asphalt shingle recycling program. This is more and more common as shingles can easily be processed for reuse on roads.

[@humblehunk9022]

Not really. The tar in shingles is bitumen - a byproduct of oil refining. It is already being recycled once ;)

[@notsure103]

50-100 years?! Lemme know when thar comes true. The fasteners won't hold in the wood that long, standing seam or screw through.

[@CL-gq3no]

@@notsure103, there are lots of fasteners holding in wood that is well over 100 years old. If that were true their wouldn't be any historical building standing today, yet we have churches and houses that are hundreds of years old.

[@notsure103]

@@CL-gq3no there sure are. But maybe if you knew anything about the differences in present and past practices you would know why they are still there and a modem one won't be.

[@davidditman8206]

So in conclusion......Don't use a roof at all enjoy the night sky. Roofs are soooooooo overrated!

[@herbakers8417]

ISNT THAT THE TRUTH . AND SO AREN'T THE PRICES

[@josephraymond9648]

I built a cabin in 1980. Put on a ribbed metal roof over laid down 2by4s on 2 foot spacing with no plywood underlay. Used neoprene washered nails back then on the high points of ribs. No leak problem as of 2020 and when walking on it it is very solid. Has the galvanized finish that has held up very well to upstate NY weather

[@monty1732]

our house is very old and has a extremely strong metal roof that cost the original builders of the house around 20k. It is steel infused copper and i dont know much about roofing but im sure its pretty damn tough as the house hasnt had any roof repairs or updates since the house was built 120 years ago. Metal roofs are very expensive and do suck to operate and clean and repair and stuff but over time you will save so much money and headache. 120 years later our roof is standing strong still.

[@terencemerritt]

Watching your older videos compared to now, you have came a long way with your editing and style. Keep up the great work Eric

[@westcoasthiker76]

Steel is vastly superior. I love your videos but don’t really agree with this information - and you should mention that with standing seam steel as well you do not require expensive plywood under it - just underlay and attach to joists/rafters. I had 3 quotes from Roofing companies and I found a professional steel roofing company that beat the shingles guys price! Stay away from shingles - they are junk and toxic to our environment.

[@derekmcdermott5312]

I'm a traditional metal roofer with 25 years experience. Also my father before me was a metal roofer. Metal roofs are traditionally a "fully supported" roofing system and should (unless being fixed to a metal substructure) always be sitting directly onto your plywood or osb. However there are rules depending on whether the roof is a cold or warm roof. On a cold roof, battens (strapping) are used to create an airflow gap between rafters and the underside of the plywood carrying the metal roof. In a warm roof you would typically sheet the roof as normal, then apply a vapour barrier, then insulation which is generally bonded to ply or osb to support the metal directly. Although there are slight variations in different areas due to climate differences, this is the general rule for most temperate climates

[@joetinghitella]

Nice video. Switch to Duration Flex. Atlas is a low grade shingle maker.

[@VideoNOLA]

Thoughts about Hurricane Metal Shake roofing by TEK Industries?

[@briangc1972]

You forgot to take into consideration the climate. Asphalt shingles melt in Phoenix. You can not walk on them anytime the temp is over 100. I'm an A/C contractor, I have to walk on the roof when it is so hot the shingles melt under my feet. Clay or concrete tiles work well but they crack and I have never seen a clay or concrete roof that didn't leak severely after 15 or 20 years. Only metal roofing holds up to our intense temperature and severe monsoon storms. Once installed properly, they never leak and they last a lifetime. The manufacturers all recommend metal panels be elevated to prevent condensation and eventual mold on the deck or rust through of the panel. That should settle the debate. My metal roof is 10 years old and not one screw have backed out or broken from the expansion and contraction. You must use a quality fastener.

[@Beandiptheredneck]

Brian G C I know exactly what you are talking about. I shingles a black roof on a 110 degree day and the darn things were squishing under my feet, there’s all kinds of sheet steel roofs around my area, both strapped and not, and not one seems to have any trouble with screws backing out

[@EVnewbie]

I installed a white metal roof over 1x4's and Rhino Roof material. The main reason for this is hail storms, shingles get destroyed by hail but metal can take it. A neighbor has had his metal roof for 37 years with no leaks or hail damage and improves the insulation value in the summer by not being a dark color. In the future, roofs will be 3D printed so this won't be a question in 10 years. I'll take a ventilated graphene or carbon fiber 3D printed roof in white...please.

[@towersroofinginc422]

3 tab shingles are crap and should only be installed on sheds, as far as putting barn tin on a house I personally won’t do that. I specialize in standing seam double lock roofs of all types and we use high temp ice and water shield underneath. Sure the cost is higher but when properly explained to homeowners especially when they’re young and expect to stay there for a long time, more often than not they chose the standing seam roofs. I did notice the siding on the left of the screen, is that Hardie Board? It seems to be too close to the roof line?

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

Thanks for the pro info... yes Hardie and is too close to roof surface. Bought the house as a foreclosure and am fixing it up so I have found all kinds of interesting things ;)

[@rollandelliott]

metal roofing is superior to shingles. I have a local comapny sells 5v for 50 cents a square foot, that is $50 a square, cheaper than asphalt and if you put wood strips under it (there is no debate wood strips are a must lol) wtih reflective foil you have a much MUCH cooler roof.

[@loganpatterson4674]

No debate. Screwing into osb roof deck is a terrible idea.

[@rollandelliott]

@@loganpatterson4674 screw into the purlins whcih are screwed to the rafters, then. no one said to screw into osb,

[@loganpatterson4674]

PhotoBooth biz I was agreeing with you. Strapping a residential roof with 1x4 is needed because no purlins

[@3OFAKINDHACEESA]

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[@oystercovecraftsman9219]

I'm in Australia. So different climate and building codes. The vast majority of the roofs here are colourbond (metal), with some tile roofs. I have never installed or dealt with shingles. When I do colourbond I install the truss/rafters, wrap them in sarking (usually proctor wrap), then batten with mgp12 or hardwood, then lay the sheets. Having the gap between the roof sheet and sarking gives somewhere for the condensation to go. In theory the roof sheet would condensate, and the condensation would either run down the bottom of your sheet to the gutter, or drip onto the sarking and run too the gutter.

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

Very cool! Thanks for the comment

[@eliwilliams414]

I have installed quite a few metal roofs for remodels. We have always used furring strips and I would like to point some things out. We always install a treated board at the eave of the roof as an extra precaution in case water is driven up under the metal. The reason we run purlins is due to the fact that I have seen the screws being used to fasten the metal pull out of the roof sheathing fairly easy (stripping out); so we make sure that we screw the purlins down to the trusses and then attach the metal so it has a secure hold. I also recommend choosing 26 ga. Metal opposed to 29 ga. It has less chance of being damaged during install as well as holding up in bad weather. In regards to the screws and their washers, for a little extra money they sell what’s called an “XLM” screw. These have an attached collar that covers the washer completely and if installed correctly has an awesome seal on it which we install on all our roofs.

[@JimWhite1958]

Some of my dislikes about metal are that the screw do back out over time, Their slick to walk on if you need to come back and do a repair, A lot of installers of metal are DIYers, good ole boys and carpenters that have no conception about roofing. Color fading would be the other biggie to me and they do fade. Exposed gaskets do go bad and for goodness sakes never screw a metal roof right into a shingled roof. Always use 1x4's for a solid bite when you drive the screw in.

[@boyettedesign]

I live in a rural area. That means that ALL access to internet comes in via wireless cell tower access. Metal panels and wireless cell signals do not seem to get along very well. Neighbors near me who have gone with metal for it's longevity and low maintenance, have suffered a loss of 30% to 60% of their available signal strength due to metal roofs "bouncing" the signal. The only solution seems to be to relocate and elevate your cell signal antenna at least 20 to 30 feet from the metal roof, and elevate the antenna another 10 to 20 feet above the metal panels. Just thought I would pass this information along...

[@davidbrewer7937]

This is a very likely scenario. The steel acts as a reflector causing echoes to the antenna & data errors meaning the data packets must be reported as CRC error & resent. It causes delays. We rebuilt our home with a steel roof screwed to batons & Xplornet was unreliable on the steel. It was over to the shingle roofed barn at the back of the house & the problems cleared up but Xplornet still sucks anyway. We have since abandoned Xplornet as expensive, slow & unreliable. We had a cellular antenna installed on the soffit edge of the steel roof building & there are no problems. The steel roof does shed snow but with snow guard rails it gets broken up before damaging the eavestrough. Personally I do not want 6 feet of snow accumulating on my roof to collapse it thanks so this is a positive not a negative. The paint alone has a 35 year warranty meaning I will be 89 when the warranty runs out!...in that time I would have replaced a shingle roof at least twice, possibly three times. Steel is the best as far as I am concerned....well worth the expense

[@boyettedesign]

@@davidbrewer7937 Living in West Georgia, snow isn't a huge concern, as it only snows every couple of years, and accumulation is usually 1 to 3 inches. And, it is usually gone in 24 hours or less. However, I do agree that most internet companies that can only supply "wireless" internet usually suck. If you are not "hard wired" it is a 50/50 proposition at best.

[@DeeDeeRanged]

The person climbing up and sliding back is on a shit installation which should not be used as representative of metal roofing

[@tonytymes6714]

Those bs panels are best for siding and what they are meant for barns you know where cows and horses live and I like that you are on a roof but really you had to pick a panel with hail damage lol but I do agree best choice for homes unless price dont matter and they can get tile or stand and seam metal

[@mattymc6802]

Are many roofs tiled in the US? Most of the videos and images of homes I've seen have shigles.

[@72strand]

Great, but you did not talk about how long the different options last. The best roof is concrete tiles like i have. Lasts 50 years.

[@fatboy12G]

Standing seam is lifetime

[@72strand]

@D Early My roof is 30 years and i have no problem walking on it.

[@michaelmiller5177]

It's amazing to see how the channel has developed since this video

[@forwardhomeenhancements2622]

My experience with Atlas shingles=junk.

[@antoniiocaluso4387]

Why no stand-off space for the adjacent house siding, where it meets the roof shingles? Say...4"-6" clear, with a metal L-flashing long-leg on the vertical. Bituman-covering it, & any stray fastener there, then painted, it sure: a. looks good; b. rain-water resistant; c. makes re-roofing so-much easier; d. I forget :-) * *68-yr young/40-yr Designer/Builder (NC, FL, & Bahamas). Your so right for choosing good-grade shingles. A terrible thing(!) is how "up North" transplants want any color but Super-WHITE shingle color**. Some even wanting Black! Ugh!! I'll refuse & walk-away. Like working on Satan's own home for the incredible reflective, radiant, & conductive heat during the install. And the dumbass a/c cooling bills for the homeowner afterwards!! Stay young, y'all :-) **tips: 1. work with smooth-soles shoes (sailing, tennis), which grip great without scarifying the shingles underfoot; 2. wear old-fashioned ribbed velour pants (goodwill!). Comfortable to sit on a slope with AND should one teeter & start sliding, just...SIT. That lush velour acts like an instant brake!! Welcome

[@antoniiocaluso4387]

Ohh yeah... d. work when its COOL! Good for you, good for the shingles. Tell ya's...there's no better Shinglers than Central American ones! Small stature, drug-free, fast, focused,...they get 'er done. I pay them the going rate, & tip each man separately! Good happy men=good work!

[@stefjacobs315]

Why aren’t roof tiles used in America

[@colinbrooks6290]

Leave space for ventilation…. no brainier 😅

[@jamesbradwood5064]

There are metal shingles too though, so this doesn't really address all of the options.

[@drymoonproperties]

I am not a metal fan for many years after almost fifty years as a carpenter and GC I highly recommend against metal as often as possible. I always use ice n water shield it's a safer way to go especially where I live in a very cold wet area Lake Michigan never know what is coming next so I have always used the best products available after seventeen years of roofing experience I just stay with the best the hell with the rest.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Because you don't know what you're talking about. Standing seam metal is without question the best. Shingles are cheap and easy but definitely not the best 😂

[@mikepetrilli4686]

Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!

[@gidroga]

What about the roofing clay tiles (or whatever you call it)? Why don't you use them like almost everywhere in Europe?

[@milesjonelybonely9281]

Low rib standing seam metal like horizon loc is absolutely the best thing you can put on your roof if installed properly. It can literally last as long as you live. Shingles will definitely not. There are no clips for this panel. The screws are installed on the inside female side of the panel left barely snugged in a slotted hole but not tight to accommodate expansion and contraction. The tar paper/underlayment is vital to be a properly sealed sub-barrier. Just as is needed for shingles. Then you wrap a reflective wrap (like bubble wrap with foil) in opposing directions on roof which reflects heat thereby protecting plywood, tar paper, home thermal protection and adds extra condensation protection. Then yes you use Ice guard and gutters, snow or ice is never a problem. If you have gutters and a steep roof then you should have gutter covers to keep clean and should not be climbing on a roof unless knowledgeable about roofs anyways. Whether you have shingles or metal. Yes the metal cost more but it’s one and done. Shingles are constant re-roof and weaker to storm damage etc. There is really no comparison.

[@shonhurt4520]

I had to run a plumbing vent through a metal roof and there was no plywood under it at all. Only metal. What are your thoughts on that set up?

[@colonialroofingofnorthcaro441]

Yea dont use atlas, sorry they are the cheapest shingle on the market, they have done some great stuff trying to hey into the market with the major brands like certainteed and gaf, I wouldn't out Owen's Corning on my dog house, they left a customer of mine high and dry one time with discoloration and we hadn't even got on 3/4 of the roof at the time when we notice it, I oay for it out of my pocket, I was at that time spending around 4 million a year on Owen's Corning and never used them again sense, I think that was around 25 years ago, I e been doing roofing for close to 40 years, certainteed has been the best shingle that i e found offer my customers, i don't install any others for several reasons even though they are the most expensive shingles. They do have a great product but the biggest reason is they, for me, have always stood behind their warranty. We install all our roofs to manufacture specs so the warranty is valid by the codes they set, also being a certified installer gives the customer a better warranty and registers they roof with the manufacturer, nice feature, i always use synthetic underlayment, paper OS to hot and bleed down the roof over time. I just am not comfortable selling a product that doesn't stand behind there own products or have to jump through alot of hoops to hey them to do what they promise and thays what i e found to be the case with certainteed, gaf has to many granules that fall off from the first time you open the package, I've never liked that, ibe had roofs that were down right dangerous because of so many granules that come off the shingles while installing, plus they want you to pay for there programs, no thanks, certainteed offers them free to insure they're shingles are being installed properly free of charge. 40years, hands on every shingle know for the most part, i use what i know from experience to offer customers what i would use, metal of course is the best roof you can get, it can last you if maintained 200 years no problem, i have houses that have the original galvanized roofs on them and they are over a 100 years old so yes exsoensibe but will out last even the youngest person if installed properly. One of my biggest selling points is decking, a product is no better than what it's attached to, so making sure the customer has good decking not just when you look at it but that is going to last the life of these lifetime heavy shingles is very important, ibe seen these companies come out and do a one day job and the decking in a month or so is sticking up through the shingles cause they didnt de-nail the deck off, nails dont hold for ever, especially when you walk all over them, it works them lose and most times your replacing the roof so the decking has already been there for 20 or more years, hooe so of this insight helps someone, thanks for video

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

Thanks. I am with you on the synthetic underlayment.., AND using companies that stand behind their product.

[@jamesmaher1016]

Quick question from what iv seen in your videos are slates not used much for roofing in the us

[@RockRak367]

Go with F wave

[@oldtinmanstonecoatedsteel9647]

Stone Coated Steel is a great option to consider as well

[@titusneumann3899]

Far as I know It would have A effect how far of a reach out side maybe if you have steel siding even that’s going to affect it. Just my thoughts and experience over the years

[@squirrelkiller100]

Has anyone used the permalock aluminum shingles? Are they good or bad?

[@erlonlima5107]

Bom

[@mansardmanor3869]

Thanks for the products data & lifespan, My desire would be for you to include Architectural defined appearances with the products you discuss. Such as, Metal roofing is well suited for Contemporary styles. Composition roofing is architecturally suitable for current pitched roof styles ... Esthetic should be discussed in your review of roofing products.

[@Funkykryptonite_]

The "most" unbiased biased opinion.

[@Mike-hb4pc]

Another thought I had was damage from hail. I would think the metal would get dented and look terrible, whereas with the three dimensional shingles they would 'soak up' the impact and no damage.

[@markoshun]

In my area, there’s a lot of hail. After a damaging hail storm, the roofs in that neighborhood are replaced on insurance claims. If you look at the downspouts, you’ll see piles of aggregate. Once that protective layer is hammered off from the hail, the exposed shingle breaks down quickly.

[@MrTooTechnical]

the one thing that no one does is ice and water shield the whole roof. i did, every nail on my iko roof is sealed for life. But, if the roof does have an issue, i would put plastic roof shingles so it would last forever.

[@paulallenkokapaulie6313]

Lots of great advice... thanks for posting

[@jeboccuzzi10]

Vented. So the plywood can dry quickly due to naturally occurring condensation.

[@CL-gq3no]

I think that ~1/4 inch thick plastic mesh mat layer is maybe a better option. It goes between the waterproof underlayment and the metal roof panels. It allows water to drain and there is enough airflow to allow drying. You can also walk on it normally since the roof is consistently supported. It also doesn't have a large enough gap to allow critters to make a home. It seems like the best of both worlds.

[@Real_Tech_Skills]

There is a different version of "standing seam metal roof" that doesn't have the extreme costs of the traditional standing seam metal roof systems. I've installed asphalt shingle roofs, ag style metal roofs and the different version of standing seam metal roofs. The metal roofing that I used only cost about 20% more than asphalt shingles. Some of this 20% product cost increase was offset by income tax return rebates. I don't know if the income tax rebates still exist since the new tax code has been introduced. The only real extra labor costs for us was the fact that valleys take more time to complete. I'd always recommend a metal roof over any asphalt shingles. I do agree that snow guards need to be included wherever pedestrian walkways or driveways are below the roof line. Proper gutter installation is important to keep them from being ripped off.

[@diggingupnorth3453]

what are you referring too, SL16?

[@Real_Tech_Skills]

@@diggingupnorth3453 : Yes that type of snap lock standing seam ridge is what I used (just happened to be from a different manufacturer).

[@santiagodominguez2522]

I highly recommend sheet metal. Roof the longest you screw it on top new plywood.. and set the screw in the flat. Not on top of the rib use a impact drill so you can control how tide you. Want it" we use a C metal channel and screw it tru plywood into the trusses with a 3 inch deck screws and then screw sheet metal on it. Never had problems with. Talk to your cell phone company if you loose crevice they 'll install a antenna and you get full bars.

[@ericbacon9317]

Um you use 2x4 to raise it up not 3/4. Quit being cheap and do it the right way. And it needs the air flow thats why they have foam strips for the bottom and foam strips for the ridge cap.

[@titusneumann3899]

I’m a roofer for many years and I agree 💯 also metal roofs hurt cell phone reception.

[@mansardmanor3869]

Interesting point, would that affect WiFi signals?

[@mattbenjamin1540]

I agree with the Shingle option. I install metal and shingle. With the metal the snow comes off and rolls to the house. Even with break points. Shingles it’s easy to replace and fix any leaks

[@notsure103]

Metal is noisey.

[@CL-gq3no]

No, it's really not unless it's installed like a barn/carport/etc where the metal is attached directly to trusses. If you have underlayment, sheathing, insulation, and ceiling drywall in between the metal roof and the interior of the house then you don't really hear the difference.

[@hilux0094]

Using purlins on top of rafters or the existing roof deck is ridiculous. Standing seam panels are fastened right to the roof deck. Corrugated metal that is screwed down is not a good product. Most metal roofs are plagued with problems especially in snowy regions of the country. If I were going to go that route I would try to rhino line the entire panel to give it grip and allow the snow to fall off of it more slowly. Traditional roofing systems are still the best. Slate, or tile. Flat lock copper or double lock standing seam. 9 out of ten times I would recommend slate roofing for anything more than a 3/12 roof. Hundred year product if done right and properly maintained.

[@hoangkybactien7207]

I like to have metal roof over cow barn, and architectural asphalt shingles roof over my house 😊. Asphalt shingles are extremely flexible and easy to work with.

[@EricJohnson-tc6xc]

Spot on with this. Installed all three types for over 20 years. Bang for the buck for the arch shingles can’t be beat. Exposed fastener roofs have a lot limitations on complicated roof systems.