Rookie Morgan Cibilic Takes Down World #1 John John Florence | Rip Curl Newcastle Cup Heat Replay

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[@thomasvinsen1410]

Stop putting the result in the title. You guys are insane.

[@xeicv]

total kooks

[@spencerjacobs3565]

Seriously

[@fernandoc8650]

Yess plss

[@VAB360]

WSL became a joke.. quality of the waves.. the judges.. the excitement of the guys commenting shitty waves because they can’t be honest.. tjek!

[@postupmedia]

@@VAB360 facts

[@postupmedia]

that last 9.3 was a joke though, that was like a 7

[@skaterhugs1147]

yea lil agro with that score

[@corelorddd]

I mean it was the biggest wave of the heat and he started really well and finished it even better. Quality of wave selection and maneuver placement gave him that score.

[@petecabrina]

@@corelorddd yeah two huge critical snaps and most complete wave by far, some people need to open their eyes I think.

[@fabriciomenezes9728]

Morgan won the heat. But nine on that wave?

[@postupmedia]

it was a 7.5 at best

[@mattshredzinski1473]

WSL smoking crack nowadays

[@fabriciomenezes9728]

@@mattshredzinski1473 or just pushed the rookie local boy sponsored by...

[@bapple7844]

Don’t get me wrong cibilic clearly won the heat, but it think John is getting so good at the surfing that the judges don’t know how to score his waves properly anymore. Again Morgan absolutely ripped the bag out of the heat.

[@postupmedia]

they really do underscore him to not mess with the scale cause his potential....its messed up, i think morgan still won but the scoring was not good or fair

[@M.Mae.M]

Tough match for John John, Morgan was on fire, judges threw out way too high of numbers

[@shane0yourgod]

I was thinking the same thing, but then considered the wave height and watched most of the heats from the day. After this it seemed reasonable.

[@RobertSlaterkelly]

The immense of power Morgan has on his forehand snaps is incredible he really earned the win

[@M.Mae.M]

@@RobertSlaterkelly Agreed very powerful

[@bi0008]

And JJ choked on them

[@M.Mae.M]

@Darcy Ward agreed 👍 great showing for a rookie

[@stevenhusmann3816]

I thought the rookie still won but was definitely overscored on that ride

[@rksnote9635]

Considering that Johns 13.16 was the second highest of the entire round of 32...to bad the first highest was Morgans 17.13, the judges scoring was not an issue for John. Crappy waves were more of the problem and Morgan is obviously accustomed to it as its his home break.

[@KirbyCharkra]

Morgz got the best waves of the event... maybe his size helped make em look so.

[@thisguy1397]

The only problem I had with the scoring was both of their first waves. Other than that, your assessment is *sound.*

[@countryroadstakemehome]

when you're 2ft tall, of course you're going to look good in those conditions..

[@johnny-yi2oi]

You will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep!

[@countryroadstakemehome]

@@johnny-yi2oi read the nametag

[@johnny-yi2oi]

@@countryroadstakemehome you’re in my ward now, grandma.

[@pierrearmand6590]

That's exactly what I was thinking. John John too big for the waves. It's like he's ridding a kiddy bike.

[@smsfelipe]

Really poor judging, obviously the crowd cheering had an impact. JJF first wave was miles ahead of Morgan's first wave, in terms of difficulty, aggression, risk and speed.

[@kristinehayes4885]

Oh piss off.

[@Asator66]

Kind of true though...

[@DanozDirectional]

I think John was more precise and creative and it’s a shame the judges didn’t see it.

[@robbiecooper948]

Jjfs surfing is so good to watch, even in these conditions. If anyone was goin to beat him, I'm glad it was the young aussie. Though saying this, i didn't really think the crowd on the beach have to cheer when jjf didn't stick his air reverse.

[@raelsidoroff1239]

Yea fr John John is such a good dude and like never beefs with anyone

[@HareNatoriSURF]

Local power and local judge power

[@bayareablues2255]

8:12 - Yeah, I'm sure it's the crowd cheering for Morgan rattled John so much that he fell on two air attempts. Jeez. He's a two-time world champ. I don't think the crowd is going to faze him.

[@HKSlays]

Clear and decisive victory for the Rook....surfed amazing well against JJF. I enjoyed watching.

[@thisguy1397]

*Pfffft...* If you think JJ's 1st wave was Worse than Cibilic's 1st, then you're just completely blind. Callin' BS on that Score. Lookin' @ You, Judges. You Donkeys Blew that Call, and everyone saw it.

[@thisguy1397]

Maybe I was a little harsh. Probably something to be said about catching the 1st wave & setting the scoring standard. Still though, bad call. Definitely lost the heat though. All good, plenty of ⏱ to catch back up.

[@thisguy1397]

Nevermind..... It was total BS. *5 Sick Manuevers vs 4 Decent ones...* • 2 SICK Wrap Arounds, 1 SICK Snap, 1 Lip Float, 1 Closeout Snap • 1 SUPER SICK Wrap Around, 3 Super Lame/Late Snaps ||| P.M.W.

[@ComedyByAlan]

Yeah I was REALLY confused by the scoring on those first two waves. Had to rewatch to see if I was seeing things

[@QuiqueMarrero]

That wave isn’t a nine...

[@tonyjovanovic9259]

No shame going down in those junky waves JJF. Morgan was on fire and caught the better of the waves with more turns and deserved to win this heat. But in my opinion, JJF style is more pleasing to watch.

[@pumping426foot]

And this is why a one-day event at Trestles is fucken dumb. I takes a tour to make a Champ

[@callumw5]

Agreed, the one-day event is purely a spectacle, it is definitely not a good way to decide the best surfer of the year

[@charlynnchock678]

WSK Way too commercial...Plz...a 9.3 Joke!!!

[@charlynnchock678]

Wsl

[@johndee1653]

Agree 100%

[@matthewwillis4892]

Bullshit waves! Are we back on the Budweiser suds tour?

[@makaigraham2648]

How did he win? John did a better more committed turn on every wave he had than any of the turns on Cibilic's 9. Cibilic is a good surfer but the scoring seemed super off!

[@HareNatoriSURF]

Local Judgement and jjf was half way recovery so

[@hudsonh3985]

HAHA postcard from Morgz 😂 what a beast

[@gabrielcordero3043]

best surf flick.... hands down

[@noaharocha6674]

Smart by Morgan staying with his momentum and not over exaggerating on anything!

[@cwr8618]

Rookie dude has a bad ass front wrap and snap thing. Super fast and shreds it

[@SuperBacDoc]

Great riding by the local boy but its a shame the world champ has to surf in marginal conditions to advance. JJF coach should have told him to avoid air moves due to low chances of scoring potential and high chances of injury in these conditions at this break.

[@claytondossantosrodrigues9700]

Ainda bem que foi eliminado se não ia dar um trabalhão p o Italo

[@criptosurfer3155]

What a shame for judges .... Florence Killed it wayyy more than rookie Cibilic ... respecto for both competitors shame on WSL as usual

[@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd]

crap surf with over zealous commentary

[@shockmarkets7384]

That was a clinic. John was rattled after the first exchange, that's why he went to the air. Without perfect wave selection he knew he wouldn't be able to compete on turns, in those small waves. The confidence that local knowledge brings was definitely a factor.

[@thisguy1397]

*Exactly what happened.*

[@callumw5]

JJF can compete with anyone's rail game, even in small waves. His combination of power, style and variety is unmatched, no matter how small the waves are. I can agree he may have been a little rattled, but he also got unlucky as Morgan was just on the better waves (and definitely surfed them well). In a 30 minute heat it doesn't take much to lose; a couple of mistakes and unlucky wave decisions is enough, even for the best in the world.

[@shockmarkets7384]

@@callumw5 You're not really giving Morgan or his coach their dues, bringing it down to luck. I like John's surfing, but he was easily matched yesterday by a man with a plan that was executed, pretty much, flawlessly. Ask John if he thought it had anything to do with luck. He'd probably refer to his equipment, and he'd be right. I don't know how he goes over his losses, but there's plenty to go over with this one. I wish him all the best.

[@callumw5]

@@shockmarkets7384 Morgan definitely surfed extremely well, but what I'm trying to say is that 30 minutes is a really short time and it doesn't always reflect how good or even in-form a surfer is, anything can happen in 30 minutes. Any surfer could be in the form of their life, going into a heat with everything on their side but still a couple if mistakes and miss some good waves and lose, and vice versa. I just think it's hard to judge the form or talent of a surfer on a single heat, but morgan's had another good one so its starting to look very promising.

[@shockmarkets7384]

@@callumw5 Yeah good on him, I haven't seen any of it today. John doesn't need defending, he's a two time world champ. That speaks for itself. He had a bad heat. It's no biggie. But it was a bad heat under applied pressure. Give young Morgan his chops. Nice chatting with you Callum. I'm off for coffee.

[@mattshredzinski1473]

Anybody that really surfs knows who really won this heat. . . WSL blowing it... even the Goat was like yea I don't know about that call... 😄😄

[@kalenhalvorsen6322]

such junk waves why not surf trestles if you want waves like this

[@stainless7191]

California new covid cases 2,417, NSW 0 new cases

[@desancti1]

Overscored. Not refined enough to get those scores.

[@bellend4412]

Geez Morgan looked sharp, made John John look a bit sluggish, not that he is at all, but Morgan was just that sharp.

[@vznquest]

I thought John looked great in this heat. Powerful wraps/carves just didn't get the 2 wave total to advance.

[@KrakenXE]

I think a lot of people knew that John John was gonna struggle in small wave conditions, and then going against a local boy who is use to the size of those waves and even that wave in general, was just not in his favor

[@danlum304]

Morgan Cibilic competing in his hometown before a home crowd, three clearly biased Aussie commentators (Blakey is a fucking joke) against John Florence, and gets a gift 9.03 on 1 foot wave??!! Come fucking on. Nothing against the kid, he surfed well, but that was a bullshit fixed wave score.

[@tx6113]

Até acho o John acima da média e tal... mas que ele é favorecido é algo que já encheu o saco, parece o Messi...ganha bola de Ouro quando não mereceu.

[@bits_for_bytes]

These waves are trash

[@jamesfennell6434]

Morgan first wave was bigger than John john’s and his vertical snaps were way more critical that’s why he got the higher score. Both had 4 manuevers but morgz was more critical on a larger wave.

[@DanozDirectional]

I wholeheartedly agree with you. In saying that though, JJF turns we’re so much more intentional, creative and precise. Aside from the first turn on the 9, Morgan kind of threw his board up and the lip knocked it back down, his cutback also caught the rail and he staggered through it. In terms of judging, the style and true performance didn’t really factor in and clumsier surfing won.

[@asyouratty13]

hard to get to excited in waist high waves

[@jonnyyen7169]

You should, same type of wave that Slater surfed in his formative years.

[@asyouratty13]

@@jonnyyen7169I get spoiled watching good, solid waves

[@jonnyyen7169]

I get it, I want to watch the best ride the best too. But, waist high waves can be super fun, and we can learn a lot about a pro surfer in small conditions.

[@asyouratty13]

@@jonnyyen7169 better waves would be helpful, when they get real decent size it sometimes pares down the lesser surfers.

[@jonnyyen7169]

@@asyouratty13 I think it pares down the lesser surfers when it's small also. If you can't destroy a small wave on tour why are you there? The best look great in all conditions.

[@blairakana9984]

Morgan does good turns but I’ve haven’t seen him do any airs yet. If you can do Ayres against Morgan, you’ll beat him by far.

[@iblong9505]

Wow. No doubt he serious smoked John John. Super impressive

[@thisguy1397]

*I mean.... in 2ft Surf?* I wouldn't use the word *impressive.* What was Morg's final placement in Hawaii's contest? Seriously I don't know. Each guy got a chance to Surf their backyard though, right?

[@kawikadee9670]

Go get your eyes checked.

[@cwr8618]

@@thisguy1397 soooo. pretty sure the subject is this heat. Not what happened way back when or over there or whatever you're talking about. Maybe change your handle to 'that guy'..

[@nottherealChickenJoe]

@@thisguy1397 Morgan qualified after having an extremely strong Hawaiian leg of the qs in 2019. He wasn’t even really planning to qualify but performed that well in Hawaii that he made it. So go and hate somebody else for surfing better.

[@thisguy1397]

@@cwr8618 Maybe English isn't your first language? My point is that they both scored high in their own back yards. So, par for the course. And a win in 2ft Surf is not impressive. Maybe that clairfies things for you. ❤, This Fckin Guy

[@vandamieespadero6633]

Small waves JJF can't win like this, all the air rotation unfinish landing sorry J, better luck next time.

[@j3f423]

Wish the contest was at pumping Kirra 😊😊😊

[@stanshieh]

Another Mick Fanning style guy~He surfs like previous generation.

[@bigcryptid448]

Coffin?

[@n8dawg85]

How should he surf? Like you want him to?

[@stanshieh]

@@n8dawg85 He surfs how he like to surf. I'm just here to comment.

[@pahkk]

Wave way too small for John. Just lucky for aussy boy that will be the best and last chance for good

[@PA96704]

Still weak on rail. Don't know what they see? He'll get stronger but way over hyped.

[@The_Python_Turtle]

JJF got smoked. Young aussie def rattled his cage!!

[@jl.c.8673]

Beautiful surfing by Morgan. Classic, powerful.

[@grahamjarman]

waves too small only judge in head or overhead waves

[@hikebot]

Horrible scoring

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet Just compare both of the scores on their first waves. *JJ:* 5 Manuevers *Morg:* 4 Manuevers

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet Oh dude.... JJ *definitely* lost that heat. There's No doubt about it. The frustration was snowballing. Bad wave selection. I was worried there was about to be injury on 2ft Surf. ❤✌

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet - Yeah.... they both had really good wrap arounds in the beginning. Morg's snap timing needs work though. He gets hung up at the top a lot or hits it too late. Just compare to JJ's when he's not falling 🤣🤣. The difference is night and day. Can't hate on Morg's cutback game though.... no fckin way. *Bootyful.*

[@stainless7191]

@@thisguy1397 sorry this is not 1988 scoring.

[@thisguy1397]

@@stainless7191 🤣🤣🤣✌ *K Bøømer.* I already said he lost. Obviously.... But, JJ's 1st Wave was wayyyyy better than Morg's 1st and *THAT SCORE* was utter bullsh|T. *P.M.W.*

[@wildhareonthegulfofmexico3539]

What an amazing heat. John learned a heap from that....watch out...

[@HareNatoriSURF]

Bro too much score on just a normal three turner a 8 and a 9? Wow local power

[@roshansolan6764]

Everybody's saying that he's doing really well but I think John John's surfing very sloppy don't get me wrong he surf really good but he looks very sloppy. Which is very strange because he's being trained with Ross Williams and Ross Williams was very stylish in his day.

[@hihiria1]

Terribly overscored! Were the judges getting caught up in the local hype!

[@hihiria1]

@Aquatic Mullet Overscored on both his waves. 2ft crappy waves!

[@mikelaguirre2707]

Does anybody feel that John John should use the same kind of board he used back in 2016 and 2017? I mean back then his execution of aerials was way more consistent

[@miles1991]

people shit on small wave beach breaks but they're heaps more technical to surf

[@thisguy1397]

If it was cleaner and more lined up, it would've been a BLAST!

[@brettgussey6015]

This competition shows the best small wave surfing,, best man in 3 foot ,,

[@bits_for_bytes]

Is 3ft even surfing?

[@brettgussey6015]

@@bits_for_bytes for most of us that work hard all week ,,3 foot waves once a week ,,is surfing.

[@claytondossantosrodrigues9700]

SORRY JJJHON ITALO E MEDINA THE BEST BRAZILIAN STORN ahhhhhhhh

[@claytondossantosrodrigues9700]

@Eventual Visitor Brazil THE BEST Domination

[@masekelly7877]

John John lives! We will return!

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet LoL 🤣🤣🤣 D|ck. 👍

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet 😭😭😭😭😭

[@thisguy1397]

@Aquatic Mullet Why u gotta rub it in.... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 *NO!! NOT BETTER!!* 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@bonsummers2657]

JJF's board choice isn't riding as sharp and round as Cibilic's. Cibilic is thorough, JJF is lagging.

[@chrisdillon9262]

Wow victor in 2 foot surfing

[@dunnydestroyer7459]

The size of the wave and the two critical turns and a finish makes sense with the high score

[@brianbenitez3551]

Congrats to Morgan he was ripping out there .

[@vandamieespadero6633]

I want to see JJF and Italo F head to head at Margarit River.

[@jjpotter7376]

Recovering from a injury the first couple of sessions can be good because you are so excited and motivated to get a wave but later on is definitely harder so big shout to JJ’s

[@HareNatoriSURF]

If he was with his best recovery he could have easily won

[@tajbirrelln9582]

Surfs pumping

[@budibuddy870]

yeah john keep looking at you 🤙

[@chrislane5670]

Some Dream Tour ~ waist to chest high crap

[@Soldado_deDios1]

The new kids on the block.. show up.. 🤙🏽

[@bonsummers2657]

Morgan is tiny, only like 5'3'' 5'4''

[@brostroyer]

Lol do that at pipe

[@thisguy1397]

*Exactly.*

[@jordandelgado7571]

Sh@#ty waves, why are they there?

[@thespeedofchillax6691]

i miss the days of the dream tour, the best surfers in the world's best waves, that is what made the pro tour interesting to watch...even though they still surf way better than i do, watching the pro guys in your average beachbreak conditions is just not that thrilling...there should be a rule, point braeks and reef passes only on tour or something similar....

[@felipealgodoal]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vahioslim3003]

😳 ...sorry I missed that heat now😞

[@kalebsevenhundredseventyseven]

Crazyyyy

[@jonahgrubbs7847]

Too small for john

[@hiimdex5562]

Judges was drunk and high!!!! Hahaha morgan was on firee!!!!

[@kawikadee9670]

John's barrel ride alone won the heat.

[@mattfilms.]

let’s go morgzz

[@pasindujayahansa9353]

😭😭😭💔

[@sigill_fx1]

Lavão na cara paii!!! rsrsrs

[@bakariasidheeg3831]

First

[@kawikadee9670]

The judges was impressed with the turns but not the barrel ride which was almost impossible on waves like those.

[@coulrovedadi]

barrelride was incomplete

[@postupmedia]

@@coulrovedadi based on the fact that he did a nother maneuver after I think you should get your eyes checked

[@kawikadee9670]

@@coulrovedadi But he came out of it, the move after that was not complete.

[@coulrovedadi]

Lol the ride as a whole was incomplete. And since the points are given for the whole wave it doesnt really matter

[@kawikadee9670]

@@coulrovedadi If that is true then why did Billy Kemper win the Peahi last year? He pulled into a lot of barrels but didn't make any complete barrels and still scored high. I'll never understand how they judge waves.

[@moipaglalunan1899]

What a shame for jhon jhon.

[@kawikadee9670]

No shame on the judges for being corrupt.

[@kawikadee9670]

@Aquatic Mullet Yeah he did and if you anything about surfing the maneuvers that John was doing required higher skills than the easy old school moves. Plus an additional barrel ride.

[@kawikadee9670]

@Aquatic Mullet If it was legit no problem but John pulled off harder moves and got barreled.

[@kawikadee9670]

@Aquatic Mullet Hopefully they meet again in bigger waves.

[@franciscogury9049]

i really think john john won that heat...

[@gullystephens1760]

Yes morgs

[@maxnegnho3816]

ITALO CARALHOOOOOH , FUNCK JONH-JONH KKKKK

[@d7seven]

John seems out of sync

[@Johnny-wr1wp]

Nice first result on your new innovative carbon fiber quiver dude. 🙄👎🏼

[@Harley_surf]

dont be a hater

[@kaichristensen1441]

How did that have anything to do with the board?

[@paultopfer4256]

The board looked good under his feet (look at his first wave), he just oversurfed it

[@Johnny-wr1wp]

@@Harley_surf it’s fun

[@Johnny-wr1wp]

@@kaichristensen1441 he fell six times. Shitty board.