Rooster Teeth mods DELETE Critical Reddit Posts! This is Why So Many Fans Left!

It seems like Rooster Teeth has been shutting down criticial voices in their Rooster Teeth subreddit. In this video I show several deleted threads and discuss whether they were toxic or hate posts. But please let me know you're thoughts in the comments. It’s been years since I listened to Burnie Burns, Gavin Free, Barbara Dunkelman and Gus Sorola on the RT Podcast. A lot has happened since then. But it seems like the downfall of Rooster Teeth continues. The Ryan Haywood Drama from Achievement Hunter and Adam Kovic from Funhaus had their scandal, which was followed by layoffs and brutally bad reviews written by previous employees on Glassdoor. Another ex Achievement Hunter employee and voice actress of RWBY comes forward with hard hitting accusations against the company. Kdin Jenzen, who worked with Rooster Teeth for almost 10 years and who primarily appeared on Achievement Hunter but was also known for voicing May Marigold in RWBY amongst other credits, left the company in June 2022. And just a few months ago she shared a detailed piece about some of her experiences within the company, including some shocking details of what’s allegedly really going on behind the scenes at RT. Geoff Ramsey, Gus Sorola, Michael Jones and Rooster Teeth responded with official statements at the time. Let's discuss the end of Rooster Teeth!
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[@ClayChoShow]

I'll say this forever. Rooster Teeth hated their fans, hated their opinions, hated their input. They called their fans racist and bigoted. They insinuated that their fans hate minorities and LGBT just for criticizing the company. It was and still is BAFFLING to me. Why would you self destruct and attack your fans for NO reason. I will never understand why. Ego? Money? Both?

[@Beavernator]

Gotta remember that they were basically living a slackers dream... They were all giant toddlers, so it isn't too surprising when they lash out when people critique their free rides... Very few people actually did planning and real legwork around there...

[@nantron89]

Because they viewed it an attack on their personal beliefs. Most of them were tumblr kids where they were validated for whatever they said/ believed and any opposition was viewed as hatred.

[@mattt525]

Yep! Couldn't agree more! WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE IF YOU DON'T AGREE. That attitude pushed away many long term fans.

[@broden4838]

For me, it's the fact they don't have college degree education AND did not take a basic critical thinking class. It's time we school them the hard way

[@jonaswest6993]

Also the company is in Texas. It seems like they were the pot calling the kettle black in order to cast suspicion away from themselves or at least certain individual employees.

[@TheBassmanCharlie]

It was definitely a valid and reasonable post. The fact that the referal to the mega-thread was for "answers to your questions" says it all. The point was to have a discussion.

[@davemustang8173]

Even when their company is being dissolved they still want to try and silence any criticism

[@Wrecktar96]

I’m kinda surprised that Gus has not said a word. He even made his accounts private

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

Pathetic tbh

[@Wrecktar96]

@@apolloforabetterfuture4814 right even burnie said something on his podcast. It might not have been much but atleast it was something. He wasn’t in the live stream and making zero statements and kinda hiding away is kinda weird.

[@mromutt]

@@Wrecktar96 I mean to be honest he could just be super pissed off and yelling "I fucking told you so" over and over at home and wants nothing to do with anyone. I think him not being there kind of says something in itself. Also Burnie has a podcast? What's it called?

[@Wrecktar96]

@@mromutt yeah I can see that. He was always more on the realist side. Burnies podcast is called morning somewhere! It’s really good, just quick 20 min episode with him and Ashley

[@broden4838]

I think he's going into hiding

[@codywasson5894]

It’s sad during Rooster teeth’s golden age they would take constructive criticism and work on it for their shows that’s why RWBY volume 1 is the only volume with the “shadow people.” people said “hey the shadow people is kinda weird.” So volume 2 they had actual background characters.

[@Blind_Smithy]

i was banned from that sub like 2 years ago for saying how the community treated any one even slightly right wing was disgusting and incredibly discriminatory which is hypocritical based on what they say about trans etc was banned so quick because i think i hit the nail on the head

[@Beavernator]

I was banned for defending Joel when they booted him...

[@SilvyReacts]

General rule of thumb to always keep in mind about any community... avoid talking about politics, it never ends well.

[@mattt525]

Statistically speaking.... chastising the other side of your community for their political opinion means 50%ish of the folks will leave. "If you don't agree, and if you don't like it. Then we do not want you here!" That shit sucks.

[@mattt525]

​@@Beavernatorjoel was a lunatic. But he was so damn funny 😂

[@Beavernator]

@@mattt525 Most comedians ARE lunatics... It's a feature, not a glitch... 🤪👍

[@patchwerktwerk3354]

Lol did you see the part of the podcast today, where they were specifically talking mess about you?

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

I watched half of it. But missed that part. Can’t wait to listen to it once they publish it. XD

[@EmmureMARIO64]

@@TheSneezingMonkey OH I need to know! Where?!

[@EmmureMARIO64]

Really?! Which episode?

[@L33tSkE3t]

I feel that the post was perfectly reasonable and not in any way inappropriate or inflammatory. I guess people’s emotions about the whole situation are running high, which is understandable as people are understandably frustrated and upset and for good reason.

[@privateName419]

At this point I don't blame the mods that's probably the only power they have so they want to exercise it before it goes away😂 is funny that he said it has been mentioned before and the exact conclusion people reached is what he did that cost Rooster Teeth to fail

[@derbydriver]

Just for the record, the Rooster Teeth employees that were mods of the subreddit were removed as mods during one of the recent scandals because the “civilian” mods didn’t like the optics of RT employees having control. Problem is, the non-employee mods are just as bad, if not worse, in terms of censoring discussions they don’t like.

[@shanefowler3349]

Rooster teeth passed away when Ray left

[@EmmureMARIO64]

Tbh I still watched RT when Ray left. I stopped watching RT in 2018 as I got bored of their content. I still watched achievement hunter still. After the amount of controversies and exposure happened, I stopped watching.

[@enviousgaming3250]

​@@EmmureMARIO64after vic I stopped watching

[@crispychicken5495]

MVP'S Ryan and Adams departure was the end of days.

[@mattt525]

​@@crispychicken5495yep! Ryan leaving was what put the nail in the coffin.

[@emilyrhea]

Ray leaving definitely changed the vibe. It passed away when Burnie left for me, and all the elder millennial staff didn’t know how to stop being bitch babies about everything 😅 I tried to keep up with AH but after Geoff took a break and Gavin started being absent, Jack thought he was in charge and could rile up Mr Rage Quit guy into being pissed off with him about everything. Jack using videos to soapbox when I just wanted “haha fart joke epic gamer moment” type videos was just gross.

[@JeremiahRehrig]

I tried to have a debate on the rwby reddit. My post was made fun of for "going into a pizza parlor, ordering pizza, then complaining about the pizza, i should just leave" then my post was removed and i was banned from the reddit.

[@Ponch_ITK]

Reddit mods being mentally ill and can't handle criticism about their company being shuttered by Warner Bros Always the same with these people same with Rwby fans

[@andrewturner9469]

Seems a little petty to be even worrying about their Reddit at this point. The company is all but dead, excluding some of the podcasts that supposedly are alive until sponsorships are completed.

[@Mid-AirMan]

They didn't want to believe they had any problems. This allowed issues to fester and drive away their audience. Them being mad at people for saying the end is coming instead of listening as to why amid plummeting viewership is exactly why the company died. Their catalog has over 400 series. That shows the desperation to make something viewers wanted, but all they had to do was listen.

[@Cat_in_Bljat]

I lost interest when Achievement Hunter stopped 'Rage Quit'

[@gerardoleon8643]

I hope the best for everyone at rooster teeth I’ve got a lot of great memories with this company

[@canadiancomedy6894]

What are you going to do now fir content?

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

The RT videos don't even make up 5% of the content on my channel.

[@canadiancomedy6894]

@TheSneezingMonkey weird. Your RT videos all of a sudden popped up in my suggested. And I don't follow any RT content or Alien content.

[@Klust413]

Hey, Rooster Teeth doesn't control the Rooster Teeth subreddit

[@darrenkirsch4870]

It'll be nice when people stop making videos like these. They're good analyses of the long going RT critiques but what else is there to talk about? Whether through their fault or not they're shutting down, nothing else to lambast

[@SuperG3X]

So why you here then.

[@darrenkirsch4870]

@@SuperG3X it was good to learn about all these scandal type events, also I think this guy has good insight even if I slightly disagree with some things

[@AAAA-j5u8s]

Look, I like your podcast but can you stop talking about Rooster teeth. I have never heard of them. I’m not interested in them and I’m glad they are finished.

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

A LOT of people care. Just skip the videos if you don't care.

[@EmmureMARIO64]

@@TheSneezingMonkeyhe’s a bit.

[@OfKingsXI]

these videos come in clutch because I dont care to look up all this bullshit myself and he doesnt add extra bullshit or his own random "I wouldve done xyz" garbage. hes just wrapping up a story man

[@RMAJGaming]

honestly i think the mod is out of line. the comment the OP posted read like more of wanting to have a postmortem on what lead RT to its downfall rather then dancing on its grave.

[@Patrick.Weightman]

That OP summed it all up perfectly, and the mods unintentionally proved it to the fullest extent

[@Gemmycobson]

Ay you’re here too patrick

[@RMAJGaming]

you love to see it xD

[@enviousgaming3250]

The reddit poster that keeps getting his posts removed hit the nail perfectly and his own posts getting removed proved his poonts even more than before

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

I agree....thanks for your comment

[@Benjamin_Tech]

Yep. That's why I've gone from indifferent to RT going out of business to RT reaps what they sow.

[@thisisnotmyid_]

Watching the podcast live today and they went on a rant regarding common things said by the community. I honestly feel like this is a perfect example of the attitude that turned people off from the company. Their response was more or less insulting the community, without genuinely responding to the questions raised by the audience

[@enviousgaming3250]

Thats sad I saw they were live and was tempted to look at it but saw this video instead and decided to watch something better

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

Jea I was watching it too. Didn't make it all the way to the end....

[@thisisnotmyid_]

@@TheSneezingMonkey likewise, I realised we wouldn’t hear anything, despite their claim ‘they’d go off the rails’ on the first livestream they did. That’s when I saw you upload this. Perfect timing really

[@brickcitrus]

Was watching the podcast, but it was taken down while I was watching.

[@ryan_alexander]

What podcast?

[@Esa826]

I got the weird "inner circle / cult" vibe from Rooster Teeth community. If you said something wrong, or had slightly different opinion as community there, you were "outcast" and need to disappear, chance your opinion or get shadow banned. This might just my feeling or maybe I got the wrong impression. Would love to hear if other users had these kind of impressions?

[@mattt525]

Yep, the wokism drove many away. So they could pander to the loudest group.

[@mromutt]

@Esa826 Oh no, you are not wrong. The last few years the comment section on the rt site got extremely toxic and abusive if anyone had any thoughts or opinions about things. Not even like wild or bad things, just if they didn't repeat what the person on the screen said. Or had the audacity to politely and constructively say they were not enjoying a video followed by thoughtful suggestions/ideas to improve it. XD I know that sounds like I am making a joke but I am not, the number of times I saw people get absolutely destroyed in the comments for that is insane.

[@Lansolot]

I always thought the community was really strange could never be 100% yourself because they were all so sensitive over everything (at least the ones commenting). I was lucky enough to have an IRL friend to talk about RT with.

[@PlayPodOG]

100 5. thats exactly what happened to me

[@SilvyReacts]

This is why I rarely use r/rwby and instead use r/rwbycritics for discussions. You can even tell by just the kind of posts you see in r/rwby that it's not a very good representation of reality, because they remove anything and everything that can be seen as negative. So what you are left with is just mostly fanart posts.

[@SimonPetrikov12]

I feel the opposite haha. All I see on rwbycritics is people hating on the show. It's not even criticism, it's just hate now. It's such a depressing subreddit

[@SilvyReacts]

@@SimonPetrikov12 Curious, do you have an example of something you consider hate rather than criticism when it pertains to that subreddit? Not saying hate doesn't exist, but just curious since what one considers hate can differ from person to person.

[@SimonPetrikov12]

@SerenaSilvermoonVT I typically avoid the subreddit now, but recently I was looking for information about v10 and the v9 special edition thing that's coming out soon and wound up clicking on it. Pretty much every comment was saying how v10 doesn't deserve to happen, the show needs to die, the writers suck, that they're trashing Monty's name, etc. Not exactly criticism in any sense. Besides that, before I found myself disagreeing with a lot of topics there. Ironwood's downfall, Penny's purpose, Adam's character assassination, the fact Blake cries over Yang falling and Ruby doesn't when they're sisters (even tho Ruby was too busy fighting for her life to have a crying session). Everything has its fair points but to some people, the writing is 100% in the wrong and inexcusable--i.e. there is no discussion to be had other than dunking on it. It's so overdramatized how bad the show is there.

[@Sampsonoff]

The whole point of Reddit is the COMMUNITY curates the front page based on collective voting. If the community is sick of a certain post or topic they can downvote and move on, that’s how it should work. There was no need for mods to step in and remove it. And yes, this attitude of trying to force narratives on the community killed the company long ago.

[@BillboBirsay]

Eurgh, this is why so many people gave up on RT. To be honest RT were always up thier own ar*se to a certain degree. Geoff and Jack would talk about 'arm chair ceo's' and react very badly to any critism. This led to to people within the company saying they weren't listend to when they brought up bad things happening in the workplace. RT always thought they were perfect and arrogant for it. Turns out they're still arrogant despite going under like so many former fans said they would.

[@broden4838]

A good example is a prediction I made 7 years ago "If Miles and Kerry are not removed from the writing block, then there's a 90% chance of Rooster Teeth going out of business."

[@qxevtnu1879]

i mean. This was all pretty obvious when it came to the Ky situation. Her levels on her mic in videos was insanely high. to a point where it was an issue for headphone wearers because her voice just cut through due to poor audio mixing. Instead of taking that criticism and correcting it. they turned it into a missile and attacked fans. leadership as a whole was terrible for roosterteeth and achievement hunter. They didn't know what they were doing. Forced shitty improv (that they were never good at) and couldn't take any advice of what the fans thought on the matter. Their failure's led to the company collapsing. Personally, it was insane to me that they even had over 100 employees. I understand they have things they wanted to do. But they really needed to approach having more contractors as opposed to turning a contractor into a full-time employee and wondering where their money is going.

[@Unclenate1000]

well put, especially with the Ky thing. She really ruined it for me and my brother who usually doesn't watch this stuff overheard her voice the videos I was watching and complained lol, and for them to just turn around and double down on it and hide behind the race card.

[@EmmureMARIO64]

@@Unclenate1000 She was LOUD and I mean LOUD! I watched an OffTopic podcast and I think it was regarding an anime character/show and she yells out RIIIIIIIGHT!!!

[@aaronkay101kinetic]

Both Reddit posts were completely respectful and nothing bad was said. If Roosterteeth have to remove it, then its exactly why they should be closing down: being so out of touch with their fanbase and alienating the very thing that made them successful in the past.

[@wesrrowlands8309]

As much as Geoff says they care about the fans but this isn't the first time they've done mass censoring on things they didn't agree with. They even lashed out at them during let's plays or stuff like Off Topic. They never did seem to say why they didn't remove videos after the controversy. It seems like in their minds they know best and if they say you'll like it then you better like it.

[@broden4838]

Their childish behavior towards criticism makes me know that "Companies are going to lock their doors towards these moderators and call the authorities if they see them"

[@soulvoices7228]

The audacity that these mods have . Like who did rt hire

[@broden4838]

People who didn't take college degree classes or Critical Thinking classes, I presume

[@IdriveKITTnyc]

I left the fanbase. Didn't want to take part of anything. Tried to stick to some podcasts (black box down and face jam). But even those became chores to keep up with. I am mixed, mostly latin with a bit of north African and spaniard. While also queer and thier direction towards being "inclusive" didn't feel natural. Just more of the "im sorry im white anyone else is special besides me, see watch my stuff now". Thats the best i can say without triggering some people. I don't wish bad on any of the crew but the writing was on the wall for years and they didn't do anything to avoid it.

[@Lansolot]

100% They adopted that fake corporate attitude crappy fast food and retail jobs try to sell you. It went from something that was similar to you and the boys hanging out to a corporate planned meeting. Then the community pretended like it wasn't happening, absolutely nuts.

[@joepapi619]

This exact mod behavior happened in the AEW subreddit. Seems like a warner thing.

[@jamesmoucheron4799]

God that place is a cesspool. I had to unfollow that sub.

[@skinfen8085]

The ship sailed many years ago I legit just check in to see when this dog shit company deletes itself, look at the the rooster teeth logo ffs, corporate ruins everything

[@KENSHIROez3260]

RWBY is a proof listening to fans can be very detrimental to the story creators because I swear this show actually used to be interesting until the writers decide they want to prioritise what fans want to be canon that is CHARACTER SHIPPING

[@DocMicrowave]

Full agree.

[@frostyliciousmayne]

RWBY was always western weeb trash

[@Paintballpro18]

To me it was basically a last ditch effort to get people interested. We have wanted a STRQ volume for so long, Bumblebee shippers have been the most vocal on their ship out of all the others out there as a whole, and what did we get in V9?

[@DocMicrowave]

@@Paintballpro18 Fully agree. I have awaited a team STRQ flashback since V5. By V8 I came to realize they were probably saving it for the last volume in the show. As it was too critical and had the potential of dumping far more lore than even Jinn's Salem reveal. Then we get V9. Nothing but a filler volume whose only goal was to flip Neo and give BB shippers the ultimate in fanservice. (Almost) everything they asked for. The rest of us got a volume that did nothing to move the story forward.

[@broden4838]

@@DocMicrowave I think there's a video out there explaining "why shipping destroys lives"

[@zebra486]

long term achievement hunter viewer from 2011-2019 here yea, the RT employees kinda forgot who their target audience was and after, at least what i recall and why i walked away from their content, they do indeed care for their community but they were toxically positive. there was no room for criticism and if you didn't like their content you were specifically addressed IN the content to leave or don't watch it. at the end of the day, their personal lives were too intertwined with their internet personas and, probably, is mostly why they couldn't take criticism (cause it was in part a jab at them personally). i know specifically that ryan held an internet persona the most. his goal was always to make entertaining content (this is not me saying he was the only one trying). ryan's departure for gross things really shifted the content's tone and changed whatever 'personas' existed within the content. no longer were they just being entertaining but they were trying to compensate good vibes which ruined the whole chemistry of the content. not to even mention that the original cast had shifted substantially and (ironically), as a mid 20s yo woman, i found it very hard to relate to the new cast. i really do love these people, i watched the hell out of their content for years. i watched many twitch streams from all of them outside of achievement hunter content, and i still watch ray on his twitch lol. like, these are entertainers, they have always been entertainers to me. their content is a form of escape and i really hated that they brought life back into the fiction of videogames. we were always here to laugh and it doesn't work to be 'woke' in a form of sarcastic environment

[@ninjagia1234]

Michael and Ray were why I got into AH and RT in the first place. Found a random rage quit video im pretty sure it was the first impossible game video and then I became hooked and it felt like a family of sorts. Every day of the week was something new to look forward to and for a time things were amazing. Once Ray left I noticed the change in how things were going but still continued to watch. But you're right the attitudes and personalities changed over time and that's a human thing to do we all change wether we like to admit it or not but unfortunately who they are now is not who we came to see. Michael use to be king edgelord and boldly wore that badge on his chest now he's got paper thin skin. Ray was smart in leaving even he did as even today his streams are still highly entertaining and he genuinely cares for his fans.

[@Paintballpro18]

​@ninjagia1234 I think we got hooked on the same video lmao, but I didn't stay as long. I basically left within a couple months of Ray leaving because to me almost everything he said was golden. Everyone else had good moments but every time Ray said something it made me laugh so I followed him to twitch. I think I had stumbled upon a let's play around 2019/2020ish as well but going from what I remembered with the old cast to the new ones, it didn't feel like there was chemistry at all between anyone playing. It felt like they were being forced to play a video game together rather than hoping on to play a game (which is more relatable as an audience member since this helps create the feeling they enjoy a title as much as you do). It truly didn't look/feel the same as 2012-2015 AH

[@derrick9605]

This kind of arrogance and failure to hear from anyone except from their own self gratifying echo chamber is only one of the reasons this company is at the bottom of the ocean.

[@3rdStreetAVolitionite]

So I was correct. They learned nothing from why the company was shut down.

[@saltystick_99]

There's something poetic about how the one calling out Rooster Teeth during (what I think is currently) their postmortem phase, is named "Adam" You know The same name as the character in RWBY that Rooster Teeth neutered and turned into a creep just for the sake of making Blake & Yang a couple.

[@chainedpanda9574]

I feel like RT actually used to listen to the fan base... But due to a series of lucky, and sometimes unlucky scandals and moments, they started to treat a large portion of the fan base as their enemy. It was primarily anyone who disagreed with whatever they said or did. Each time part of the fan base was treated like an enemy, they simply wouldn't come back. Do it enough times, than who's left? If this is the mentality of the company, can we really expect the mods to do any better?

[@masterchiefofhalo4525]

I think rooster teeth got what it deserved. It like Disney started out hatred on the fans and when fans started leaving they doubled tripled and quadrupled down on their decision to keep insulting those fans.

[@Lansolot]

thats sad that you only experienced that roosterteeth. There was no other company more heavily involved with their fans than RT, and im not sure there ever has been since. All that ended when they were acquired by warner.

[@masterchiefofhalo4525]

@@Lansolot I remember the times when it really was just a group of friends playing games having fun watching funny fails or doing funny fails themselves.

[@Lansolot]

@@masterchiefofhalo4525 Yup, during this time they had a relationship with the fans too. I never participated, but it was cool seeing it exist and it was sad when the disconnection happened. Rather than listening to their fans they started to try to shape their fans into what they wanted or at least what Warner wanted. Any mention of this = banned from the community. Literally everyone I knew that was fan had been banned from their reddit for some really dumb reason and we were ALL fans for life, not some hating trolls.

[@simercury515]

100% The official Rooster Teeth (and related official) subs have been bad for there entire existence, and RT always had it super locked down to be just barely more then the Bot Posting Video links. I think the corporate goal was to push fans to their first member/RT forums, but RT had the mods neuter the sub(s) so much that it killed all non-positive feedback on the sub because it was a waste of time to post it. The big scandals got too big to ignore, but even pre-fullscreen they wanted a community but not really to hear from it.

[@mattt525]

Jack P drove me away before 2020 by constantly bringing politics into everything. Also him constantly telling people on the other side of HIS political opinion were stupid and "we don't want you here." That type of stuff got REALLY old. That among some other "woke" stuff. Before you flame me I am very middle of the street when it comes to political issues and opinions. Sad to see RT go either way.

[@Unclenate1000]

damn, and you're saying even BEFORE 2020. 2020 is when the really tripled down and I just couldn't handle their douchery anymore myself.

[@samr131]

Same I used to love AH, but it slowly became more of a show where Trevor, Jack and the new crew were just virtue signalling.

[@mattt525]

@@samr131 virtue signaling AND just plainly not funny. I do enjoy watching the old goodies though! 7DTDIE. Skyfactory. Great stuff! I will always enjoy Burnie talking though.

[@IkeFanBoy64]

This is why I've hated the RoosterTeeth community for so many years now. I love RT itself, but the community are a massive band of white knights who ultimately ended up drowning out the criticism the company needed. The "RIP bozo" people should definitely be shut down, but shutting down criticism only hurts. I still mainly blame WB for axing the company in the first place, but the borderline zeal seen in the community is appalling. I've straight up been harassed by people in the community when I said that the Ryan scandal was handled horribly (both by the company and community).

[@eudaemxnia2481]

I just finished watching the RTP special stream on the rooster teeth channel and the things they talked about were very revealing. They even referenced watching you.

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

They did? I watched the first half but then stopped?! Now I may need to watch the rest of it...

[@eudaemxnia2481]

@@TheSneezingMonkey Yeah they were pretty offensive lmao. The 2nd half was the best part. They're being very candid.

[@vladpoofin1759]

Rooster teeth proving why they got shut down. It's sad but they seemed to misunderstand the difference between trolls and critics.

[@have345]

What’s the point of deleting stuff now? So random

[@MasterChief203]

One last power trip before they become irrelevant

[@splunkmastah4609]

Part of me is sad to see Geoff crying and everyone being all sad. Until I remembered how they treated Kdin, and Mica, and who knows how many others like them. Don't care that he Publicly apologized after it came out, words are worthless when you say them after essentially being forced to.

[@Patrick.Weightman]

Another good point would be when Alanah left she talked about how extremely overworked they were for next to no pay and everyone rallied behind her for it (rightfully). But now it's like everyone just completely forgot about it. The fans aren't really ones to talk either though. Everyone turned on Peake when they found out he was religious and voted Republican, even though he was arguably the nicest and most humble person in the office.

[@ryan_alexander]

IIRC, Mica said that Geoff reached out after she left and apologized for his behaviour, not sure on the timeline though

[@Lansolot]

@@Patrick.Weightman wait did the audience turn on peake and funhaus? I could care less where his alignments fall, it's all dumb. PEAKE /\

[@Vigsol]

I've spoken quite a few times on the reddit and the RT site itself over the last decade and my experience has been the same. I've always been respectful and mentioned both sides when being constructive with criticism. But its ALWAYS treated like an attack. In response I've been insulted by other community members and then hopeful for a moderators input, only to have them back up the toxicity. Obviously its way worse on the site. It was the reason I really stopped watching RT when they were starting to really stumble a few years ago. The cast put out a blanket go f*** yourselves if you don't like anything we do. And the toxic calvalry rode in and indiscriminately slaughtered any kind of healthy conversation. Only time an RT employee was nice to me (outside of talent at a con) was customer service when I cancelled my first subscription. This guys comment section is honestly the best place to discuss RT, that I've found.

[@stateofhibernation]

Geez, they just proved him right... twice. 😅

[@TheBassmanCharlie]

Wow.

[@Lansolot]

They only started to behave poorly to criticism after being acquired by Warner. I believe that's because there was nothing they could do at that point.

[@mfkenopium]

can anybody send me the post show from off topic podcast #65 - the sabbatical? thanks

[@RandomShinyThoughts]

Those posts fully nailed it and the fact they then got pulled really highlights what I think has always been the issue with RT. I feel like as a company they never let go of the early 2000s gamer-bro I know everything and fuck your critisism mentality that became the stereotype for COD players etc. back in the day. That was who they were and what got them their initial fanbase and as the company grew they started saying all the right political/inclusive things that they needed to in order to not sink or get sued but they didn't actually believe any of it and it just meant that you ended up with two groups of people; Fans who kept complaining about them being too "woke" who they then told to leave and fans who were minorities whose critisim they wouldn't listen too when they fucked up or made a misstep and as a result neither group felt valued or wanted in the community even if they liked the content. They were trying to appeal to both groups and ended up with neither because everything they did pissed off one or the other or both.

[@Cyraxior]

Censorship is the main weapon of fascists.

[@imikegaming2070]

there was a play palls video, where michael and gavin were in the room they do it in, there was a random pair of new shoes in the room that someone had left, and gavin took them put them in the little trash can in the room and set them outside the door. you then later about 10 mins or so hear loud yelling outside the room. gavin then sticks his head and the little web cam they had hooked up outside the door, and it was Trevor scolding the team on how this isnt acceptable and someone would want these new shoes. this was around the time geoff left achievement hunter and trevor started taking over that roll. to me it showed a side of trevor we dont get to see on camera, and from the looks at the people around at that moment being scolded were almost scared of trevor in that moment. gavin then gently closes the door and smerks as to signify i got em. was the first time i could remember seeing a change in or how i took it to be.. never really looked at Trevor the same after that. Just my thoughts as i watched this video, and my first thought at to when it started to change (apologize for grammer and no use if quotation's read between the lines lol)

[@FantomGoat]

I'm sure Trevor appreciated Ray's "Game Kids Trevor" line during his Off Topic podcast appearance.

[@matthewdaub]

​@@FantomGoatyou could see how Micheal tried to quickly move on from that joke and change the subject. He didn't let the joke run it's course with other riffing on it like normal. It really seemed like he was trying to not get Trevor angry.

[@matthewdaub]

Doesn't anyone know what episode it was?

[@FantomGoat]

@@matthewdaub Off Topic #177 (it appears to be the viewership peak of that podcast). I was going to mention that Michael seemed to be nervously laughing when Ray said that.

[@Lansolot]

Trevor came out of nowhere and was promoted above everyone. It never felt right and he never earned the respect of his peers to get that position nor did he earn the respect of the audience.

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

RT always took criticism and negative comments in bad faith. They couldn't handle legitimate criticism if it bought them dinner first.

[@jadenkoch103]

I’ve found a new respect for funhaus, they did a stream addressing their audience right away, plan to make a lot of content people have been asking for before they shut down, and are making members only content public. I haven’t seen any of the whining and drama and audience blaming from them like I have from most of the rest of RT.

[@Crisspy1000]

They did this a lot on their Twitter and Instagram pages too, I think I even saw that they removed a post just to repost it due to the negative comments

[@BLACULA-Skeewoah]

I got banned from the Funhaus subreddit last year because I posted "in a few years, if someone said Remember Funhaus? What would be the first thing that comes to your mind?" An admin accused me of trying to start arguments about why the view count was going down and banned me when I disagreed with him.

[@PlatnumVideoGamer]

Just like many employees that came from the community that we all know and love under the rooster teeth umbrella (ah, podcast, shorts) I like many others wanted to be apart of rt in a whole and work with them in the early 2010s and when I went to college for film I had a goal to be a intern with them and work my way into the company. But the step that kept me away from achieving that goal was being in the threads and being that follower that never looked the other way and asked the question “what are we doing?” As in looking at ourselves and critiquing what should be fixed. I didn’t want to be a yes man because ultimately I do ask the questions we all are asking and wanted correction for mistakes. I’m sad they are shutting down but like many of my friends and I have said since the shut down announcement, it was a long time coming. Even Bruce and Lawrence on their show said they lasted this long but toxic mindsets drove it down. I fell off being a big fan after the Ryan controversy and then when all the other controversy’s started after I started to see them for what they were, just a corporate mouthpiece trying to be relevant leaving us original fans kinda scratching our heads

[@jecndojtb]

Honestly, “go check the megathread if you want to know” has the same energy as “it’s classified dig up your own info from our curated sources idiot, I could tell you though” Not a good look for the mods, even if their hearts are in the right place. That being said, why do PR flacking for an already sunken ship? It just doesn’t make sense to me.

[@DarthSion89]

The mods where really bad for the longest time i had a post pull just stating about kdin that a lot of the community was blaming anybody trying to have a discussion about the situation calling anybody that didn't support them 100% transphobic even though most people loved charlotte from fun haus but the issue with charlotte and kdin was funhaus let it play out naturally rt was trying to ram it down our throats every other video calling people out all the time and just.beimg shit towards the community like you said echo chamber

[@shadowsagen723]

I started watching RT when RVB first came out then in 2012 I started with their Lets Play when Ray shortly started with them and watched em ever week till Ray left. Then began to stop watching them over the course of the nxt year. Then in 2016-17 when they jumped on the political bandwagon, I and a few maybe a lot of people began to be turned away because it seemed like Jack would just go on his tirades with politics. Then after 4-5 yrs of not watching RT, I tried again in 2020 saw the direction the company went and I was turned away forever. Personally I'm not gonna miss a company i grew up with during my late teens and all through my 20s when they did this to themselves.

[@Shogemon]

I remember watchinig RT/AH everyday in middle school and high school - I myself was a huge fan of the RT Podcast. So sad to see how far they have fallen. When youtube channels get big they develop an ego. Especiially true for youtube channels that have been around for a while - the OGs of youtube. I think RT is no exception to this. They get it in their head that they know better and can do no wrong - anything they put out will be a smashing hit and if its not then thats because of the haters. Seen this happen to multiple older youtubers and now we've seen it here from RT. I stopped watching RT/AH in highschool around 2016 2017ish (just naturally lost interest) and haven't kept up aside from the occassional scandal so I don't know when it started but it's very clear to me that their own egos got in the way and alienated fans

[@TheChar45]

Not surprised, at this point what does RT even have to say to even remotely explain their behavior over the past years with their treatment of fans who don't share the same beliefs that they do. Ship has been sunk, let them have their titanic moment. In the end, no matter what happens there's no washing or scrubbing away the reality that they themselves created the iceberg. Hope the employees can find better paying work that truly values, and rewards them for their effort.

[@confusedpaladin7181]

Companies don't have Graves it's people you shouldn't bad-mouth after there gone

[@matthewdaub]

This is not surprising. The mods have always been trigger happy with absolutely everything that isn't possible about rt, rvb, and rwby.

[@rrchicken117]

Hey remember connect the babes? Because I do! 😂

[@canadiancomedy6894]

I hope Ryan Hardwood starts an OF account and fron it becomes so financially successful that he can buy RT.

[@gavichealsomething2169]

That Will be absolutely fucking hilarious and ironic

[@PeriodDumps]

I hope him and Mica Burton collaborate to make content to make more money faster. Turn RT into a 24 hour livestream of Geoff crying.

[@purish215]

What the fuck is wrong with you people for real

[@wiersandlines]

I’ve watched Funhaus since the beginning, but as time has gone on I definitely felt like you couldn’t be critical without being thrown into the batch of undesirables. Having the liberal elitist personality and opinion thrown in my face all the time becomes sickening.

[@DarkXaero999]

Appreciate the video. Thanks for taking time to put it out. I used to pay a lot of attention to Rooster Teeth back when RvB was still with the original cast then kind of fell off when Joel got kicked. Since I noticed a trend starting to grow from there.

[@weldbeadgaming2545]

they went woke

[@charliewalker9443]

Well done, hit nail on the head!

[@MrFunnyManChris]

As much as the mods are trying to remove the posts, it doesn't stop other channels and fans from having this discussion. They should really just accept that there's no point in removing these posts anymore. The company lost fans and now it's not the time for them to fight back with them. It's to let them speak.

[@luke2806]

I hope some of the cooler people like bruce, james, laurence, elise, barbara etc just go streaming and make their own streaming org like OTK. its time for them to evolve and drop all the boring staff hired on by corporate to check boxes. all this nonsense drama causing striesand effect is a good thing imo maybe the corporate end of RT will die off quicker and we can move on to whats next.

[@emilyrhea]

Barb also got into that “If you don’t like it go away” and “If you don’t agree with me I don’t want you” type mentality too. That stuff spread throughout the Austin offices really bad. :(

[@Crazycoyote-we7ey]

They also are blaming the New Harry Potter TV show for getting shut down

[@broden4838]

Why Harry all of the sudden?

[@Crazycoyote-we7ey]

@@broden4838 cause they mad

[@broden4838]

@@Crazycoyote-we7eyOr the fact JK Rowling is still running strong

[@86themadhatter27]

I could take or leave RT content but it sucks they destroyed OG Funhaus. It's crazy though to see everyone sharing fond memories of this magical place to work when a lot of the past 10 years of RT has been nothing but stories of workplace abuse, staff preying on young fans, terrible work conditions etc. Like maybe it's for the best that that cult is gone

[@chriscab8333]

Uuuuhm what is rooster teeth?

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

It's a company I've been covering for a looong time and that just shut down. If you don't care, please just skip the video. I'll do more of the other content soon.... ;)

[@chriscab8333]

@@TheSneezingMonkey was just curious thanks! New sub here

[@yack6938]

RIP my internet childhood 😥

[@Hater656]

So what will you talk about now that RT finally died?

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

Just bc I cover RT, doesn’t mean I only cover RT. These videos don’t even make up 5% of the content on my channel.

[@XandNobody]

Honestly? There can't exactly be constructive criticism anymore, there is nothing left to construct. All the "This is why you failed" posts look and feel like nothing more than people wanting to say "I told you so" or simply to kick the company while it is down.

[@OfKingsXI]

well are they wrong? they failed didnt they? and is it not their fault? Theyre playing the blame game lmao you saw what they said. "The AUDIENCE didnt like the shit we put out so we failed", not "we didnt make something people would like and failed because of it" nobody WANTED to see RT go but they did it to themselves

[@3rdStreetAVolitionite]

They said "if you don't like our content, fuck off", so this is what they get in my opinion.

[@maymayman0]

Yeah idk you are right. There is no construction from the point forwards... unless RT employees start a new media company lmfao. But it is important to realize what really happened and why they really failed. RT cited a "changing digital media landscape and changing consumer behaviour" or something like that.....but its pretty obvious that 1) selling out to a legacy media company 2) pouring money into lame stuff like Gen Lock and Lazer Team 3) crunch culture burning out on camera talent leading to them being replaced by people who have forced/no chemistry the viewers do not like

[@enviousgaming3250]

​@@3rdStreetAVolitioniteI agree All criticism they didn't listen to and brushed it off as hate and told the people like us who cared to fuck off so we did

[@jsapphire6940]

What's the point of talking about RT it's over?

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

Just skip the video if you don't care....

[@conormil1268]

Cause it was a pioneer of internet media in terms of original shows, scheduled content, video game media with lets plays. Any format of online media you see RT has already done it or became the best at it, at least at one time. So if someone else wants to replicate that lightning its importqnt to see where they succeeded and where they failed. And with RT it seemed like a big nose dive was they couldnt reqlly succeed with the new age of live streaming coupled with some controversies

[@jsapphire6940]

​​​​​​​@@TheSneezingMonkey skip, skip it's hard too skip when you see a thumbnail & title like that somehow in my recommendation, it just screams rage baiting. The title & thumbnail isn't the reason why fan's left RT you should know you're the one that's covering this, i say they're great video's & on the spot. But not this one, this is just a strong fanbase that blindly supports RT that are still coping it shut down, this isn't the reason for it's decline viewership. RT every little controversy has been covered on, it's time to move on like everyone is trying.

[@purish215]

​@@jsapphire6940so to hard to skip but u can write an essay on why his video is bad ok yeah makes perfect sense buddy

[@jsapphire6940]

@@purish215 just voicing my freedom of speech. Ain't nothing wrong with that, I'm just calling out the title & thumbnail. He could've just put , RT mods DELETE Critical Reddit Post! Then that's it nothing else. I agree with every RT video he has made except this one.

[@ultimatecrawler6927]

They already are shutting down will you stop through shit at them for the love of god

[@EggsBenedict-te4nj]

No. This and all the shit people are saying was a long time coming. That's what happens when a company doesn't listen to their fans and actively run themselves into the ground.

[@TheSneezingMonkey]

RT: Lets shut down all critical conversation, not listen to the fans and disrespect our own community Me: Look, they shut down all critical conversation, not listen to the fans and disrespect their own community You: Can we stop giving them shit please?

[@nightmarelyoko]

Boo hoo your dead company getting talk about oh no

[@Scooterbeerrun]

They will stop getting it when they make amends because apparently losing the company still wasn't enough to humble them

[@ultimatecrawler6927]

@@nightmarelyoko no it’s there’s been channels like this that have been preying on there down fall.

[@LordNexusTheFir]

😂 ok time to dance on the graves of Rooster Teeth 🕺🏿💃🏻💃🏽