Roosterteeth Got Rid of Camp Camp and Red VS Blue from YouTube

[@PhoenixFireZero]

Why does it feel like RT is in the midst of a studio-wide mid-life crisis?

[@seekingabsolution1907]

Because it started over 20 years ago (I think). Also it got bought out by a major corporate conglomerate this is just what inevitably happens once a capitalist enterprise reaches that point, not always immediately but eventually the drive for growth and profit maximization leads to the death creativity as it becomes obsessed with replicating its previous successes but larger, extracting more money out of each individual customer and more work out of every worker. Which tends to make things a worse experience for all involved.

[@MrTigracho]

@@seekingabsolution1907 Indeed. While the understanding of making money heavily relies and correlates with how a franchise is handled, which heavily includes the narrative and execution of their works of fiction and Entertaiment coming from said franchise, and thus a financial outlook is always needed, if this supersedes the creative drive and is unable to understand that the boundaries between what to do and not to do when it comes to it's relationship with the fandom, you can only except to do as worse as RT. Also, you know, DON'T BE RACIST OR SEXIST. The horror stories of employees working at RT makes me genuinely believe a place like this was doomed to fall from the very beginning.

[@marocat4749]

​@@seekingabsolution1907But that degree and so much. Like college humir did not that. Nor abused employees

[@SwitchbackCh]

@@marocat4749 Seriously. Collegehumor feels like Rooster Teeth but if they played all their cards properly. Both started out as these very dudebro type companies but one knew how to adapt and the other... not so much.

[@GameHunterDeathhunter]

Mid life? They surpasses that long ago just for some reason fans were blind sighted till now the cult fan base still thinks its all OK it's all good nothing wrong

[@TheChar45]

I think that in the future, RT will be a good example of the dangers of parasocial relationships between content creators and fans.

[@PhoenixFireZero]

And a good example of staying aware of your limitations. Their mishandling of the topic of racism is a thing of no small notoriety

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

@@PhoenixFireZero I'm going to need some context on that, please.

[@carbodude5414]

@@PhoenixFireZero I wouldn't call it mishandling. I'd say that RT has very clear opinions about racism that rears its ugly head whenever the subject is brought up in their works and that it really shouldn't come as a surprise from a company from Texas with a history of bigotry within the workplace

[@Samuel_Loegan]

and I think in the future, they'd be dead

[@donb7519]

​@@nicholasfarrell5981they tried to do the blm adjacent posts every company did in 2020 and it blew up in their face since a lot of their audience found it preachy and annoying and it also opened the floodgates of former employees accusing rt of having a racist work enviroment

[@xabbitz6148]

Dogbark is such a bad name it’s impossible to look up since you’d get more videos about actual dogs. Like I don’t think they realize that just because Roosterteeth worked just slapping two random ass words together doesn’t make a memorable and marketable name

[@table2.0]

I thought it was a spin on ‘hens teeth’ as in “as rare as hens teeth” to suggest that you can’t get stuff like theirs anywhere else

[@xabbitz6148]

@@table2.0 no Roosterteeth always meant cockbite

[@grabble7605]

"it’s impossible to look up since you’d get more videos about actual dogs." I just looked it up and their thing is the first several results. You don't how search engines work, do ya... I mean, it is a shit name for reasons unrelated to searchability anyway but

[@socksinsoda9517]

​@@grabble7605It's probably showing up for you because you likely watch Roosterteeth and stuff related to it, so KZbin can more accurately narrow down what you mean. For a newcomer it would probably be more difficult.

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

​@graveyardshift6691 no, they HAD to because Texas wouldn't allow anything obscene to be a company name

[@-Meatlorf]

In defense of that Native American stereotype, the characters in the episode also acknowledge it's offensive. It pays off a pretty good joke at the end where the campers are dressed actually Indian rather than Native American "Indian."

[@PhoenixFireZero]

Can hardly fault someone for seeing something like that and thinking "yeah, nah, I won't waste brain cells on that." Not a great thumbnail, honestly.

[@-Meatlorf]

@@PhoenixFireZero100%, That is a big yikes for the thumbnail. Removing the context from an offensive joke is not the smartest move.

[@marocat4749]

I mean, isnt max having indian parents and, thsts, i mean its adressed very much. And the series has edgy teasing things like dolph all the time.

[@table2.0]

Personally I like how the joke calls out irl camps that appropriate Native American culture like that and point blank say it’s racist lmao The thumbnail is attention grabbing and you click it to hopefully LEARN the context of the image

[@whocares6757]

It's never the actual minority getting offended by stuff like this. It's always white people on the internet getting offended for them most of the time

[@darkreflection9087]

Rooster Teeth is going downhill fast

[@kriblar98]

At this point the twins should take over the company

[@darkreflection9087]

@@kriblar98 what’s Twins

[@linked2dio26]

​@@kriblar98who?

[@n30nx4r7]

​@@linked2dio26she is another RWBY youtuber who does similar styled content to Judgemental Critter

[@n30nx4r7]

​@@darkreflection9087Twins short for twinsink (I forgot how to spell her name) who discusses RWBY like Judgemental Critter, in fact they did a couple colors I'm the past

[@angusalvarado3064]

I think what I hate most about them moving everything off of KZbin is the fact I can't go to the comments and see what people thought of a episode.

[@R0-83-RT]

Yeah, that sucks, that time capsule of memories, of people sharing their thoughts on the episodes as they came out is essentially deleted.

[@comyuse9103]

thats probably what RT loves most. that and a better way to advertise merch.

[@astereotypicalgamer1708]

Rooster Teeth in 2013 had 32 employees; they needed to bolster their numbers after the huge hit RWBY and the enduring success of Achievement Hunter and RVB's Chorus Trilogy. Today they have ten times that many, and what are they making?

[@PhoenixFireZero]

A load of ignorable content

[@ednacole7148]

At most they had 419 employees. They have half of that now, after laying off their gaming/animation department

[@TheCrunchbite]

gotta give them credit, they fired everyone who was helping them be successful lol

[@deadlyflood]

It’s honestly kinda sad to see RT really going down the path of obscurity. I grew up watching all of their stuff so there’s a bittersweet feeling seeing them near their end. They deserve it of course cause of the shit treatment of their employees and all the horrible stuff that went on but still a little sad haha

[@grabble7605]

Path of obscurity? This video was made because they're hugely known. You clicked because they're hugely known. Obscure, please...

[@CorpusCacus]

​@@grabble7605I personally clicked because I haven't thought about them since the last video I watched on their dwindling popularity, and was wondering if things were better or worse. Either way, I'm not going to their site.

[@donb7519]

@@grabble7605 does path to being shut down by wb sound better to you?

[@genv02]

They're kind of already obscure outside of their animated projects. Like their most popular thing WAS Achievement Hunter, and now that's gone. What else do they really have left where it's just them?

[@jamesburton443]

RT is the embodiment of Patrick nailing the board to his head meme

[@avemujika]

as a camp camp fan who went through the whole 5 year hiatus waiting for the show to be back i was so excited about the special episode we got this summer and was even more happy to hear that we will be getting new episodes next year too. imagine my surprise when i found out not only causal viewers but also other camp camp fans don’t know that in the midst of all this they created season 4 of cc five years ago. i really wanted to act surprised but after years of following the company it didn’t even come from a left field. all of this boils down to rts biggest problem which is just utter lack of investment into any promotion of their projects, not just to the public as advertisement or payed promotions on other platforms but on their own sites and social media in the first place. it’s so disheartening to see that your favorite show, camp camp rwby rvb whatever, is not hated by anyone more then by the very people in charge of it. i saw someone else in the comments call rooster teeth a good example of a parasocial company when in my eyes it couldn’t be as far from the truth as it gets. rooster teeth dont have an unhealthy and close relationship with their fans, they don’t care for the wants or needs of their fans whatsoever, they don’t hear fans when they ask for the company to do something smart for once for the basic necessities of a show promotion. everyone at rt expects their fans to do all the work by spreading the show around and giving it attention but this isn’t youtube 2017 anymore so it won’t work like this. rooster teeth is no longer a small passion project of a few friends, it’s a huge company that needs to start acting like one before it’s too late.

[@VencentCross]

putting RVB on their channel should have been treated like a holiday event! the website should have been re-themed around it. they should have a banner at the top to advertise that RvB was now exclusive on the site AND MOST IMPORTANTLY they should have gotten at LEAST 3 new episodes ready for the move to entice viewers over by FIRST announcing that they had 3 new episodes of RvB "available only on the RoosterTeeth website!" then once they butter ppl up with that, they should announce in a SECOND VIDEO (a week later) that the show isnt "coming back" to youtube. that gives the impression that they have a plan, that things are going well with the website, that they were successful and dont need youtube anymore BUT they should still keep uploading behind the scenes stuff and announcements to youtube.

[@theshire9173]

That sounds like a true business tactic. They even had a new Camp Camp episode a couple months ago where they could have done this. Then again, I only knew about that episode because KZbin recommended it. They seriously aren't advertising these things enough

[@MrHellsing76]

Sounds like this decision was made by the same dipshit that changed the logo to literal *BLOCK ART*

[@MusicFan752]

Not to mention RVB is their flagship series, it’s really dumb not being at the front. This is honestly sad to see rooster teeth been falling like this.

[@Dkgow]

Putting RvB on their Main Channel only after recently announcing the LAST SEASON seems like the worst idea ever. Forcing everyone over when they are in the middle of making their last season.

[@thatguythere6161]

I think a big issue with RT’s youtube channel is that they’ve put a lot of their stuff on one channel. For example, A while ago they had a single channel for red vs blue content, which later turned into the rooster teeth animation channel. The problem was, I wasn’t interested in all their animated shows. Just red vs blue and rwby. But it was fine, because it wasn’t that frequent. But they JUST KEPT ADDING things, and eventually, I unsubscribed because the majority of the videos on their channel were either podcasts, behind the scene videos, or gaming videos only related because it was the animation team playing. That’s not even counting their actual animated series I wasn’t watching. And the big problem with this is that even if you have a series as popular as rwby or rvb on your channel, if you stick a bunch of content no one watches in between that, youtube will stop recommending the popular series too. This goes to show that rooster teeth has had this problem for a long time. They constantly show you things other than what you’re looking for in the hopes that you’ll watch them, but it just ends up hurting the show we came here for because we have to sift through 100 shows we don’t care about to find the one we like.

[@snowboundwhale6860]

From what I know about YT there is/ was also a thing called subscriber burn, where if a large enough amount of your subscribers don't watch the content you put out the algorithm stops promoting it even if it's still getting views, which can create a downwards spiral that kills the video and can eventually kill the channel's visibility if it happens often enough. By flooding a channel with variety content when most of your appeal was in a few specific subjects (like RWBY & RvB) it increases the risk of videos being ignored by the viewer base.

[@SwitchbackCh]

Yeah. Critical Role used to be on the Geek and Sundry channel until they branched off into their own dedicated channel.

[@thatguythere6161]

@@SwitchbackCh And I think that speaks for itself. Critical roles videos regularly reach the million view mark, where almost all of the content on RT animation struggles to break 100k. Even for the few RVB videos that remain (they didn’t care to delete singularity apparently), those are 3 years old and only have around 300-500k views. Also, hey, I’m a fan of your channel. Your art is neat.

[@selena44842]

Step 1: remove all our content from assessable platforms to make it harder for our products to reach a wider audience, Step 2: only promote RWBY because it's the only show people somewhat care about and leave our other shows to gather dust on the shelves, Step 3: Profit (?). And RT wonders why the company is failing 🙄 Also I totally agree you're comment about about how all companies care about is money, and it just makes me sad that so many companies seem to sacrifice quality over quantity, I think I've sad this before but I'll take one one show that everyone has poured their heart into over 100 shows that were rushed out the door that people will only watch once and never again

[@CorpusCacus]

The worst part of them being so money hungry is that it's killing their profits. They made their millions making low budget passion products. Now they're just Machinima 2.0.

[@Begalmyego]

RT isnt failing. Their website has changed to have animation and their podscasts and short shows. RT is a passion project of doing what they enjoy in all one place. If you go to the website now you do see it looking better. They have been asking for feed back on the Discord and made a whole video asking what people want to see. Seen people do want to see shows like Dogbark, F**K face and their other shows. Its people who want to make something amazing. Their website has changed. They also just announced the return to camp camp with a season 5. Their extra shows are them doing their passions and putting it in one space! I also wanna put their like message that they want people to know. "We are ROOSTER TEETH where comedy, passion, and creativity collide. now in HD" They arent just pumping out shows its their team doing stuff they would like to do!

[@theotherjared9824]

"We don't care about our audience. We just want their money." - Rooster Teeth

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

Critter giving praise to Death Battle was a nice surprise. Season 10 has been wonderful so far.

[@hownot2junk803]

Indeed it has! Consistently great episodes this whole season and I expect the streak will continue.

[@The0-2DemonKing]

Bro I remember back in June thinking they couldn't top Dragonborn vs. Chosen Undead. ...they topped that episode 5 times this season.

[@christscrackers647]

Death Battle is legit the only show that is actually worth a damn on KZbin and was ESTABLISHED primarily on KZbin. So that's not gonna' go anywhere since it's technically it's own entity now despite being owned by RoosterTeeth. Also I agree, Season 10 has been knocking it out of the park so far.

[@RedDusk369]

Judgemental Critter doesn't even watch Death Battle. All she did was say Death Battle gets a lot of views. Is it really okay to praise something you don't watch? That is like inviting some one to a party but you yourself is not going to it.

[@firewolf950tfwgaming7]

⁠​⁠@@RedDusk369Well to be fair, critter was approaching it from the analyst perspective of numbers and views rather than trying to dissect its quality as her point of bringing up death battle was to compare it to the viewership of other RT content and how it has been doing better.

[@thatoneguydjdoodles]

i have seen so many people giving Rooster Teeth the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these decisions so i am so glad i found you actually giving your two cents about it cuz i’ve got a lot of words for the stuff they’ve been doing and am now a bit more confident knowing i’m not alone in being somewhat upset about this stuff

[@stephguzdoodles]

As a huge fan of Recreyo, Recreyo is a scenario based show among 5 friends with a slow burn plot of an AI character named Recreyo chan (imagine Junko Enoshima and Monika from DDLC as a vtuber/ SCP escaped experiment perhaps) slowly corrupting the series itself and it’s a fun show! The series was inspired by the likes of DanPlan and tbh, I had more fun watching Recreyo than any recent season of RWBY and RVB

[@Ultamint_me1000]

Have they always been apart of rt?

[@ragewireloki6213]

@@Ultamint_me1000I don’t think so.

[@Itsfunwithaj]

⁠@@Ultamint_me1000I only just found out that they’re a part of rt through this video. I’ve known them for a long time through their KZbin channel. So I would assume that they’re more popular on KZbin than they are on the rt website. You should check them out! They often make dnd like videos out of popular pieces of media like persona or Skyrim. It’s pretty unique content. Their channel is the same name as it is ( or was) on the rt website.

[@allyrose9494]

For some reference for 6:13, Recreyo is another KZbin channel thing that's basically a Podcast that's animated with the hosts going through a scenario like, can they survive X Series or just a casual quiz thing. I know this because I watch them on KZbin pretty consistently but I had ZERO idea they were on RT. Speaking of RT, yeah all of this is pretty dumb

[@notallthatevil]

“It’s filled with very long ad breaks, but I can’t blame them” immediately gets an ad

[@thegrouchization]

When RWBY was removed from KZbin, I didn't switch to watching it on RoosterTeeth. I switched to watching it on a cartoon piracy site because the viewing experience there was less annoying. Less site lag, a more intuitive UI, and no unskippable ads (I should also note that I was still a First member at the time, so it's not like I was being a cheapskate. The site was that bad even with the ads removed). Unless RT makes a *serious* improvement to their site soon (and given what you showed here, things seem to have only gotten worse in the meantime), this move is going to hurt them more than it helps.

[@Mrgamedu31]

honestly I would not be surprised to learn that Death Battle brings the most revenu to RT and this show could probably survive on it own without RT, good thing it doesn't get caught with the company's crap

[@battleblaster4203]

Yet

[@desertwanderer2412]

The RVB stuff hurts the most for me really. I hate not having some of Monty's best work so easily available. I think his RVB work is really unrecognized. Obviously we have the great Tex vs the Reds and Blues fight as one of RTs biggest videos, but the entire series is a true goldmine. It's honestly where I think his hand to hand work shines brightest and not with Yang despite hand to hand being her primary mode of fighting. It's very flashy and memorable, but the more grounded moves in RvB shows just how technical and intimate Monty can get when it's just several characters duking it out up close. RvB is full of flashy moments similar to the Nevermore fight from RWBY such as the frozen mountain top fight between Tex, Washington and the Meta. Yet moments like the highway heist or Tex vs York, Meta, and Wyoming show his ability to create upclose non super powery fight scenes. Honest to god watch the highway heist or any freelancer fight and it is just stellar. Much as I appreciate the YT reuploads most of them are disorganized compilations and I missed having them in high quality while easily accessible. Seems it's time to download them for my own sake before RT inevitably goes under, which from the move of their animated superstars from YT to their main site seems to me the beginning of the RT death march.

[@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313]

There's a reason why you shouldn't try to push folks to a different site. Just because your main site can rake in the dough, doesn't mean it'll rake in the views. Trying to push people outside of their comfort zone will just make them want to stop supporting you if they haven't already.

[@comyuse9103]

views don't make money. if you buy a single cup or subscribe for a single month you've given RT more money than they will make off of decades of ads aimed at you, and by _sheer coincidence_ that seems to be what the website is good at pushing.

[@juannavarrete9647]

I used to watch once upon a time when it was first coming out but it had many ads that eventually I stopped (after 3 seasons lmao) so I agree and it’s the same with crunchy roll

[@theanimekid7839]

It's pronounced Reck-cree-oh, and it's originally a youtube channel of 4 friends each who are niche internet celebrities come together and create scenarios for the rest of the group to experience/playthrough, ranging from typical 'truth or dare' to 'can you survive creepypasta' and other bizzare wacky things. The main appeal is the personal interactions of the group in high stress or unlucky situations and their reactions to each other. I would recommend this series on their actual channel as they rely on it to fund their own separate projects, they have great chemistry and make tons of jokes that become running gags throughout the series.

[@CompSomAnichi]

Oh hey fellow Recreyo watcher! Tho do u know why theyre in the website? Until i saw this video today I did not realize they are - affiliated? Or what are they? Dhdjjdjd

[@temmiehoi688]

@@CompSomAnichi same im surprised they are on there, maybe the animators are affiliated with rt but like the podcast that critter mention that its already on youtube

[@theanimekid7839]

@@CompSomAnichi They got sponsored shortly after their season 2 premiere and has been working with them for the show ever since, though RT doesn't own Recreyo. They are just using it as a streaming service to reach a more broad audience.

[@Testsubject276]

Watching RT go through with these choices is like walking past your best friend from high school passed out on the road surrounded by beer bottles. All you can do is shake your head and think: "Man, you used to be cool."

[@broden4838]

That or "Why did you not listen to us?"

[@colemiller9629]

The only "rooster teeth" media I consume anymore is Death Battle, and it does feel like its entering a new golden age, so the thought of them potentially (not likely) going to a website I have never used sounds horrifying. I know it will never happen but I want Death Battle to fully separate from rooster teeth at this point, it feels so weird that that hasn't happened yet.

[@RoilandAnimates]

As of currently, Camp Camp is now something KZbin themselves has adapted as a "free with ads" series. They even went out of there way to make sure that it was age restricted as TV-14. I don't know of Red vs Blue or RWBY yet but to people who are annoyed by the long ads on the roosterteeth website, KZbin ads are shorter and skippable as of right now

[@compareandcontrast9833]

RvB has been there to for months. I'm surprised nobody checked this.

[@Begalmyego]

They dont have all the camp camp ep on youtube. Then season 5 is only gonna be on rt from what ive seen

[@GlassofO.J.]

That thing about the tabs is so weird I don’t think I’ve seen something like that before on a website. Because you’re totally right, why would they even separate those tabs if they’re just gonna activate multiple at the same time? Weird web design choice, dude

[@Ivory81]

I loved Camp Camp with my whole heart and still do, but after I heard of the voice acting changes I had a feeling everything would go downhill fast, and I suppose I wasn’t wrong.

[@momolillidellafleur3604]

It was absolutely done on purpose so that they could push the new stuff they’ve been creating. They know people will scroll through for the good stuff and potentially click on something new after. It is absolutely deliberate.

[@comyuse9103]

and a chance for subscriptions. i doubt its done for ad revenue, since that is not profitable _at all_ unless you reach a truly incredibly level of popularity.

[@OneTaker]

Feel like it's just going down hill for them, so their trying anything to keep the numbers up. " the view just went down abit. It's still profitable! It's still profitable!" Plus its all well and good to try and get more ad money, but if your videos are making 5 times the money but viewership is to a 10th of what it was before, be it people just clicking off due to adds or not being able to find what they want from bad website design, was it really worth it? Also thanks for sharing one of your favorites with us there Critter. That's.....Interesting XD

[@VirginStarrrrr]

yknow what they say, "Yar har, fiddle-dee-dee! Being a pirate is alright with me. Do what you want 'cause a pirate lives free. You are a pirate!"

[@darkreflection9087]

I really hope Rooster Teeth doesn’t take Death Battle off KZbin it’s unlikely but considering they took RWBY Camp Camp and Red vs Blue I’m starting to get a little worried

[@ArmageddonEvil]

It'll happen, since Rooster Teeth is trying to pilot a luxury cruiser into the Ice Berg. Instead of trying to somewhat avoid it, but get hit anyways.

[@darkreflection9087]

@@ArmageddonEvil I see Rooster Teeth as a 💩 surgeon the shows are the patients and the fans are the life support but I have made a ship comment before where I commented Rooster Teeth keeps sailing into rocks and the Fans are doing their best to patch up the holes to keep their favorite shows from sinking been leaning towards the life support thing though

[@ArmageddonEvil]

@@darkreflection9087 I have to say, that's a pretty app'd analogy of a Surgeon that kills his patients instead of a surgeon that saves them. RT is heavily trying to kill off their own brand and it's working. It's still immense that there are still fans who are trying to fix the holes and give the Surgeon Support or take over since he's incompetent. XD

[@noctisastrum7495]

Honestly there would be a more massive number of people attacking RT for this decision and there would be another swarm of people finding out death battle has anything to did with rooster teeth.

[@maqs-chain]

"Stupidity wins again." -SeaNanners, 2021

[@Chiefaroni]

The name Dog Bark and them standing in line in plain colored tee-shirts on Teletubby Hill made me think they were making their own version of The Wiggles. I NEVER would have guessed it was a comedy show.

[@kuntress6005]

RTs website has been one of the most least user friendly things I’ve ever had to use, they get 5-10 times more ad revenue because there’s 10 ads littered throughout a free viewing of an episode. Absolutely this company will be dead within a few years if not sooner

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

I don't think they realize that this will just lead to people watching their shows on pirating websites, because they're more user friendly and they don't have numerous, minute-long ads that will play in the middle of the show and ruin your immersion.

[@GunmetalGator]

Recreyo.... is a super fire skit channel that posts weekly/bi-weekly. I indulge in a lot of their scenarios and enjoy the clips of their most funniest moments. Why... are they advertised here tho? They can carry themselves just fine by themselves.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

I want to know that as well, also, what is CypherDen’s Adventures?

[@GunmetalGator]

@@johanstenfelt1206 Her own channel videos probably. The people in Recreyo do their own content as well.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

@@GunmetalGator I know that, which is why I was wondering.

[@JonborgVA]

Talk about timing as you said "I cant blame them, i was hit by an ad break."

[@clarehidalgo]

6:22 Recreyo which you said correctly is like an Animated "what if" scenario youtube channel with 5 hosts each video one of the hosts has the other 4 hosts go through the scenario they chose. Like "Would we survive Code Lyoko?" or "Would we survive birdbox?" Sometimes they ave guests

[@SinVAOF]

I mean they have a “What If” show in Death Battle that’s doing numbers

[@RainShadow-yi3xr]

Rooster Teeth truly has lived long enough to become the villain.

[@broden4838]

To me, they became the villain when they did not heed our warnings on Miles and Kerry's true nature

[@Vigriff]

@@broden4838 What was their true nature?

[@broden4838]

@@Vigriff They are incompetent, egotistical, and the fact of them taking criticism as attacks towards them, and I suspect they are manipulative as well

[@Vigriff]

@@broden4838 Sounds about right.

[@indigodemipanther739]

Recryo is a channel on youtube. They're animated skit channels.

[@Gunn3rGuru]

Holy crap. A critter take I 100% agree with. Been a while since that happened. Anyway, do remember Death Battle also has their own channel membership program with exclusive videos and access to the discord, so they're also getting funding from viewers as well. I've just been lucky to be gifted memberships on casts.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

As with RWBY, this essentially destroys the gateway for new fans to discover the shows. Millions of people scroll through KZbin everyday and that's how millions of people became fans of Rooster Teeth. No one is going to watch the RT shows unless they already deliberately go to the website to see them. Organically discovering the show is nigh impossible now. I understand the ad revenue gained but putting these shows on RT's website but it still feels like something significant, perhaps something too significant, is lost.

[@KoalicusMarsupialensis]

May be writing out of my ass, but sounds as easy as posting the first season on youtube, then linking to their site for the rest.

[@randomthoughts0829]

if anything, why not put the first season on youtube? or even just the first episode?! That's how i got into granblue fantasy!

[@viperx27]

(Looking at the thumbnail) Ruby: _“Welcome to the club.”_ 🙄

[@mysteryxio9957]

I think a lot of the people that work there want their own show and either think they're hilarious or that the concept they have is interesting which the company gives it to them I'm not gonna say that they shouldn't have one but you made the point of there being an oversaturation of that content

[@pokemonmaster1505]

Since when was Recreyo related to RT? In case anybody wants to know, Recreyo is similar to Danphan where they have a group of friends, one of them will be the host and the others will be participants. And they'll essentially be put into a situation, typically related to specific franchise, and be given a goal to complete in DnD-ish gameplay.

[@RhinestoneXD]

i didn't realize just how bad RT's numbers are these days my god

[@superbuting]

Not surprising Death Battle is doing so well when Bill VS Discord clears everything RT has done in at least the last few years

[@SinVAOF]

Luckily Death Battle seems to actually understand how to get funded. Not only is using popular characters already a boost in views, but Death Battle has a KZbin membership system that actually gives amazing rewards to fans who directly support its creators so they can put more money into the episodes. And yeah, making Death Battle isn’t as expensive or creatively daunting as RVB, Camp Camp, or RWBY, but you gotta admire that they’ve managed to keep things pretty consistently solid over there.

[@bplatinumpaladin]

Recryo was a podcast style thing where a group of friends would chat and it became a "Can you survive X" where they animate the conversation. They were a separate thing, but got contracted (I believe) to RT

[@kittyfire22]

Recreo Is like their own little organization with own chanal was shocked to see that they were on the ruster teeth site at all

[@atubofmayonnaise3385]

me too, i had NO idea they were also on rooster teeth as well lol

[@shawnbebout2604]

I was about to make a comment about that like why the hell is recreyo on that site?

[@pizzadragon2699]

As a Recreyo fan, I HIGHLY reccommend you check it out. It's about the members being lead through different scenarios (some being original, others based on different proporties). The group chemistry is hilarious, and the episodes are also partially animated. Really reccommend you give it a try, the episodes are also on KZbin (also good video, Rooster Teeth is a baffiling train wreck to witness)

[@Tomyotan]

I don't really watch roosterteeth after the animator scandal but dogbark seems to be like they're trying to recreate dropout's popular improv shows

[@rpc808]

Yeah it reminds of dropout in many ways.

[@CherryFizzOfficial]

There was a whole Camp Camp episode about a big, greedy corporation buying Camp Campbell, ironic and sad to see they've become the thing they were making fun of. I respect their decisions as much as I can but this is infuriating, and doesn't even benefit them in the long run the way you'd think (Ok but seriously, my boy Preston would love making a play out of this ironic tragedy, my fellow Camp Camp enthusiasts know what I mean)

[@slimeycorp]

You should totally watch Recreyo! It's basically a bunch of Storytime animators improving their way through challenges relating to popular media, like Danganronpa or SCP. It's a lot of fun! I didn't know they were funded by Rooster Teeth though- since they have their own channel that never mentioned Rooster Teeth at all.

[@TheSGA]

Recreyo is a KZbin channel with 4 friends doing scenarios (DnD like roleplay) and is animated, I enjoy watching their channel and it was quite surprise to learn that they got bought by RoosterTeeth a couple of years ago. Not sure if your type of tea with it's comedy, but the ones that could peak your interests could be their collabs episodes. They worked with VAs such as Tara Strong (Raven, Timmy Turner, Ben 10, etc.) and Creg Cipes (Beast boy, Ken Levin, Michelangelo, etc.)

[@kalamari3288]

I was literally just looking for Camp Camp and found this video. Why the hell would they do this?

[@PhoenixFireZero]

Because animation is more expensive than they can manage on KZbin ad money, and they've animated themselves into a corner.

[@lunatic0verlord10]

@@PhoenixFireZero Though they kind of brought that on themselves when the quality of their shows dropped dramatically.

[@GamerBoy870]

​@@PhoenixFireZeroat least the 1st two seasons are on Blu-ray but not the other seasons

[@Vigriff]

@@lunatic0verlord10 Among other things.

[@Kasierofhate-ga5]

Rooster teeth went from peak childhood Rooster theeth now animation version of actavision blizzard

[@PhoenixFireZero]

At least ActiBlizz still makes things people enjoy.

[@Kasierofhate-ga5]

@@PhoenixFireZero overwatch 2s steam reviews woud like a word also not just their media how they treat employees

[@KritoSkywaker]

This is saddening, that RVB has been moved behind the paywall. It shows, how Warner Bros puts too much pressure on them and how RT is desperate for money. It's sad...And funny...

[@Fimbulvetr]

Rooster Teeth is a bunch of college bros that never grew up, and neither did their content lol. The only content that continues to do well was created by someone from outside. It's that original passion and love for something that one man created that ultimately is why we stay watching RWBY, even if it really hasn't delivered anything up to the same level of quality in the past half a decade. The rest of RT is just a bunch of unqualified man-children who can't even groom themselves half the time lol

[@seandoroja907]

I love how the most popular rooster teeth related videos on youtube aren't even any of their podcasts originals series. Its the shows that they acquire like Death battle, even Recreyo get at least 100k a video, compare that to their Rooster teeth content, its night and day Q~Q

[@GameHunterDeathhunter]

Before they shut down they better archive all their shows on yt and leave with some dignity to their name. Just leave us with our happy memories

[@ShopperKungTVplay]

i don't know why i can listen to Critter talk about anything and i'm happy to listen to forever

[@saltystick_99]

Maybe if RT fixed their website, I would not at all mind bingewatching Camp Camp, RvB Season 1-13, and RWBY all at once on that rabbit hole of a domain, even *with* the ads.

[@deputyrustart]

We just got the final season announcement a little bit ago for RVB and now this, I’m honestly really pissed at how Roosterteeth is handling its literal cornerstone series man.

[@NateHenry405]

Man, I remember when RT told me to stop watching if I didn't subscribe to their morals. That was the day I canceled my paid membership. After all the bullshit coming out l've thrown away everything with their brand on it and I'm better for it. The weird thing is: I don't regret the time I spent watching, but I also don't miss them either.

[@TheCrunchbite]

It’s disgusting, they aren’t smart people for telling people to stop watching if you don’t agree with their unrealistic beliefs

[@flyingfist4203]

I don’t get how a company that’s been around for over a decade can be so bad at promoting their shows (and supplemental material). I’ve always been a casual viewer of RT’s content. I’m never on twitter, I dont get their videos in my recommendation feed, I don’t want to go all the way to Texas for RTX just to get updates on things I might be interested in.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

I think they took all the wrong lessons from RWBY's success. They just started pumping out animation after animation, with maybe 1 or 2 trailers each, then moving on to the next when it didn't hit RWBY numbers.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

And thus, RoosterTeeth is dead.

[@gamergunn7139]

The main reason I think DB is doing so well is because they were established and popular before RT bought them and so, their numbers didn't really drop because of RT owning them. Sure they made battles of RWBY vs blank but DB almost seems separate from RT anyway so even if RT dies, DB will likely survive

[@ObsoletePerson]

9:03 - I just noticed they had merch for their bloody 'Arrowfell' characters. You've got to be kidding me.

[@everest5718]

Red vs Blue was one of my favourite series when I was younger, and even if I don’t follow it now it’s a bitter feeling to know I won’t be able to find it again on KZbin to rewatch…… legally that is.

[@Jane-ow7sr]

They want so badly to be old Smosh oh and those buzzfeed guys, that it crumples your insides like paper.

[@4444ez]

Recreyo was started by a group of content creators doing "what if" scenarios about them surviving the set up; improve and some animation

[@Hashbrown1682]

Rt is a victim of its own devices All the controversy, rash choices, public opinion are biting rt harshly

[@lvlHive]

I used to be sad at RT's downfall... and then all of my favorite members left and started streaming with Ray so now im watching the fireworks.

[@JCLFJanet]

“We get five to ten times more revenue on ads on our site” ya because you have 5-10x more ads each video than KZbin. Multi ad spam commercial breaks, like cable TV, because nothing screams “relevant” and “not dying” like mimicking cable tv. 😅

[@chaoticneutral7976]

This had to be how I found out how low the minimum wage is in Texas...

[@Armoraxis]

personally, I ALWAYS thought the RT site was trash - videos lagged horribly back in the day (haven't been on in a while to see if they still do) - navigating it was always a hassle, and it always felt like it was held together with duct tape and prayer! And then there's the true root of all evil, RT's TERRIBLE business decisions!!! From practically day 1, they rarely, if ever, made any good business choices. It worked for a small indie channel on youtube, but once they went corporate it was astounding they lasted so long! Just to start, they were known for their workplace toxicity for years, because they never could really shake the fact that they were supposed to be a professional business and are no long a small group of dude-bro dorm friends. The big example is EVERYTHING INVOLVING GEN:LOCK!!! Like... that is a whole travesty and in my opinion, the true death nail for the company. That series financially crippled them, pretty much killed their new animated shows, etc... Then there's RWBY and the constant terrible production choices there - like constantly adding new characters and assets despite having a time crunch; and rushing the writing, barely even working with a single draft of the story before animating anything, or how nothing is allowed to happen except for at the beginning and end of each volume. And then you have Ice Queendom - yay RWBY has an anime... that essentially repeats the same episode like 4 times iirc. And the various manga and other side content that just stick to the Beacon era - for good reason, it was easily the best despite all its flaws. Which is really funny when RWBY never really hinted at being a school anime, all its original trailers hinted it being more of an adventure that's on the move - like Avatar. And lastly, BY GOD THEIR MERCH SUCKS!!! Like... they don't seem to have a creative bone in their bodies, they are sitting on a gold mine of potential and they constantly squander it. Imagine, "RWBY AS A VIDEO GAME!!!" and every attempt sucks, never capitalizing on the series strong suits toward a video game medium, hell I unironically could make a better RWBY game in a handful of months than any RT released. But then you have clothes with lazy designs, ugly plushies, cheaply made figurines (from what I heard, since they were SO DAMN EXPENSIVE despite also never really looking good - quick example being the V4 beowulf statue - the idea is neat but personally I was never a fan of the V4 outfits and it cost $400), all their mech is low quality, ugly and overpriced, which sucks because that is a perfect source of revenue collecting dust

[@crimson1194]

Plot twist: only critter is using the website amd thats why S1 is trending

[@ninjawiz7932]

Death Battle is so freaking good! Season 10 is knocking it out of the park over and over again!

[@CrestORazors]

At this point, DEATH BATTLE is gonna be the only thing keeping RT afloat

[@Centuries_of_Nope]

Jumped on board RT just as Season 5 of RvB was ending. I'm glad I was able to enjoy the golden years of such a unique company. Even got to see Laser Team in theatres. It hurts so see what it's become, but I can always go back and enjoy the nostalgia.

[@kelsothesarcasmpirate]

My running theory is they want to lure people there with animations. Using them as sorta bait for people to scroll past and see everything else they make in the hope it will also catch that person's interest.

[@Samuel_Loegan]

Another Rooster Teeth moment everybody! Give them a round of applause! Seriously, I know everyone asked this question before but how is it that RT ain't dead?

[@compareandcontrast9833]

Hey, I'm subed to RECREYO, their hallarious. That's a solid grabb for RT. I also want to push back on that ending bit there. As youtube might be a good place to watch shows, but that doesn't mean they are good for shows. Helluvaboss itself is more of the exception to the rule than the rule. Helluvaboss isn't funded through youtbe because there is no way thats monetized it couldn't even be funded entirely with their merch either. Their studio spendel horse actually has some bigg backers behind it and even sold their primary show hazbin hotel to a major a major streaming service. Even then, their production hasn't always been great. Only two episodes came out in 2022 and couldn't even show their season one, finally on time, because of legal issues involving Kesha writhing a song for them. KZbin just hasn't been a stable place for long-running animated series. Im surprised RT shows stayed this long and didn't leave or vanish all together like Bravest warriors or Epitate Erased.

[@alexanderbrehm8190]

im no longer surprised that rooster teeth got axed by warner bros.

[@Lordblow1]

I feels this is like this was somehow inspired by dropout. But without the talent to make improv and other comedy work but an animation section to try and draw people in.

[@Dkgow]

I thought the same thing about Camp Camp, like it disappeared without knowing about S4 or the start of S5 then I just happen to find it.

[@newfacepaula]

seeing ScrewAttack channel turned to just Death Battle channel ever since they become part of Rooster Teeth and remove stuff that SA vids made even way before DB, it is not surprise for me anyways... I wouldn't be surprised if RT removed some vids from the Achievement Hunter vids.

[@brayenmorrison3199]

5:58 Recreyo? 6:13 It was a sort of podcast group on YT. Similiar to Danplan. And other channels like it. Doing skit scenario challenges. With elements of DnD and other TTRPGs. Recreyo is mainly known for the "Can You Survive" series. I didn't know that their episodes are also on RT?

[@Gray__Abyss]

daaamn, this is rough. the website like... sucks. I REALLY hope that the only guy I care about on there (Armando Torez) doesn't get screwed over, cause he only got employed by them recently, and relocated from California to Austin to work there.... If it goes under, it'll be rouuuugh for him

[@samflood5631]

At this point, Rooster Teeth is begging to be bankrupt. I mean after all of the eye rolling decisions they’ve been making since Monty Oum’s death in 2015, the company has been further alienating themselves from the fans who supported their business since 2003. I think shows like Camp Camp, Red Vs Blue and Rwby are better off with other companies like Amazon, Paramount, Netflix and Sony.

[@TheCrunchbite]

I hate what they’re doing to RVB

[@samflood5631]

@@TheCrunchbite What about RWBY, Camp Camp, Gen:Lock and Nomad of Nowhere?

[@AnarchoQrow]

Yeah sure give those IP to an even bigger conglomerate for them to milk it even further. The best outcome for these beloved RT shows is if somehow a very small group of loyal fans got control of them. Quality in media comes from intention of creation. Shows made to make money will always be shit, but shows made out of real love and the desire to actually make something people will be emotionally invested in for years are those shows that changes peoples lives.

[@midnightrant7487]

Welp, guess I'll just watch those Camp Camp out of context videos from now on

[@noahbriske839]

12:47 290 times 4 equals 1160 a month, doesnt derail the whole point but how badly did rooster teeth hurt you

[@thejudgmentalcritter6584]

Oh dang, you're right?! Wtf, I used a calculator and everything, how did I get it that wrong? Lol I'm so bad at math it made my phone calculator more stupid too! XD

[@kitsorcerer]

I feel like rooster teeth suffered from lack of focus and bad management. And apparently sex scandals. Thats why AH was canceled. Dog park is exactly like a Drew Carey's green show. Lasted one season. Yes that native thumbnail was supposed to be shocking but ive met red hair pale skin people who are part of tribes so not that big of a deal.

[@hownot2junk803]

Man. As a huge Death Battle fan, I had no idea about the disparity between it and the rest of RT on KZbin. That is just... wow. I'm really glad that, despite RT kinda sinking, DB is still going strong.

[@locosword3985]

What’s funny is that Recreyo i’m pretty sure isn’t even being made by RT specifically, there’s a channel for that makes numbers but it’s something that just seems to be made by separate creators, I guess they just let RT put their videos on their but you might as well watch it in the channel itself since I don’t think RT can make something they don’t directly own exclusive.

[@juliomercado4344]

personally i don't mind the ads i can get up and make me a snack or go the bathroom while the ads are running.

[@Ban-sidhe]

The whole reason I don't watch Camp Camp on the RT website is because of the ridiculous number of ads (and the fact that adblock doesn't work on there). If it was a couple ads each episode I wouldn't mind but it is down right unwatchable in it's current state.