Root cellar winter update

End of January winter update on the root cellar, shows the building finished and few other changes I made

[@debbieviebranz8100]

Very nice root cellar! Thanks for the peek!

[@kiwi_vvi]

that was like a horror movie Once you went down there lol, very cool though

[@slackwaterplacer]

Good to see you back! Can't wait to see what you've got planned for next season on the claim! ⚒🤠🇨🇦

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Me to, cabin fever is setting in hard

[@kletusbobby7029]

Just be careful that carbon monoxide does not build up down there. From the propane light. You could add a gas/carbon monoxide alarm, they are cheap from a boat shop or an RV accessory shop.

[@benf8706]

Not to nit pick, but the only products of proper propane combustion are co2 and h2o. Certainly worth the investment of detector in case of mantle malfunction, ect though. This is why forklifts and engines ran indoors are propane.

[@tacp18]

@@benf8706 If you're going to nitpick, make sure you're 100% correct. In this case, you're not completely right. "The propane equation for complete combustion of propane involves propane and oxygen as fuel input, and carbon dioxide, water, heat **and possible carbon monoxide as the outputs.** Complete combustion of LPG - propane - yields about 25 MJ/litre or 49 MJ/kg of heat. **Incomplete combustion produces carbon monoxide, which is a poisonous gas.** Like, I know you say "proper combustion," but when dealing with propane, why make any assumptions or take any risks? A lay person could read your comment and say "whelp, no problem!" The problem is it could lead to death. Just an FYI.

[@brendan9198]

That’s awesome!

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

It sure is, turned out great

[@yellowtomato]

Really good build there, I assume you aren't off-grid. It would be some work, but if you got power into there, you could have a simple 60W or 100W lightbulb on all the time in the coldest winter days. This could generate enough heat to keep things from freezing

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

On grid but living an off grid lifestyle, thanks that’s good advice, I was considering running power down there but this year we built styrofoam inserts for our potato boxes and that has stopped the starches turning to sugar, that was the only problem we had is the potato’s got a little to cold, other than that it’s perfect

[@therenaissancewoman2080]

This is what I was looking for. I want to build a root cellar below the shed I want to build. I'm just wondering about how you build the root cellar? Did you leave the floor dirt? How deep is the cellar? I'm in Canada and we get harsh winters here. I was thinking of digging down four feet and using cedar pillars to frame it and then using styrofoam panels for the walls and insulating the floor as well. Will four feet work do you think, or would I need to go down eight feet?

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

I left the floor of the container in so it’s tropical hardwood floor, I buried it down to about 9 feet to totally get it below dirt level, I tried to keep the hole as tight as possible to avoid collapsing the walls. I wouldn’t personally put more than 10” of dirt on the roof as it creates a lot of weight but if internally supported well enough it will never collapse. I’m in northern Canada as well and had seen -40 and it worked extremely well. Just remember lots of support and lots of styrofoam panels and you should be fine. Also consider possibly adding a small drainage pipe, I never and still had no issue with flooding. Totally dry, good luck to you

[@thepitpatrol]

That is absolutely an amazing cellar. Just wondering if you have thought about older age and getting up and down that ladder? Asking because I am getting close to thar age.

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Haven’t quite thought about the old age thing yet, only 36 years old so if it lasts until I’m 75 I’ll be quite happy, guess I’ll have to send the grandkids down while I run the winch above, haha

[@noblewinetours1918]

This is super rad. Ty so much for making the videos. I want to build a wine cellar using this idea and I’m in northern Oregon. Not worrying about freezing much, more so the amount of rain we get but looks like you have been dry? My only question is what would you say the average temperature is during the warmer months? Hoping to be around 58-60 degrees F for the wine. Many thanks and again just awesome. If you don’t mind can I also ask what the total ballpark cost was? 🙏🙏

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Yes we have had no water issues , during the summer when it peaks to 86F out side we maintain around 50F in the cellar, if your able to lower it in to the ground another foot you will have much more stable temperatures in the winter and summer

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Ball park cost was about 3000$ but mind you I have a sawmill and was able to borrow a relatives excavator for digging

[@NeverTakeNoShortcuts]

How much deeper do you think you would need to have buried it to keep it consistently above freezing? Where are you located?

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Northern BC, I read that the ground stays a consistent temperature at 10 feet down, most traditional cellars were built into hill sides and even my grandpa had to put kerosene heaters in there to fight the cold during -40 temperatures. Ours only hit -2 during the coldest parts of the winter so I’m extremely happy with that. This year we’re going to drape a blanket over the potatoes to stop them from getting frost nipped

[@NeverTakeNoShortcuts]

@@NorthPineOutdoors Thx. I assume that means the bottom of the cellar (10 feet)? It looks like yours in set that deep. -2 is really good. In my area (northern New Hampshire, but at elevation), I would probably be above freezing all winter.

[@susanquinlan7426]

Watch for the gas the veg sets off. People have died that way and you have a very well sealed area. Your work is teeeific.

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Thank you, I read most gases are release from fruits more than vegetables but we do keep the vents open often so that should keep the gases cleared out

[@NadinaSoleil]

Hi, do you have update ? I would like to know if you had a water issue over the past years ? Thanks !

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

No water issues yet , still working great

[@notapplicable430]

Is there a reason why you put canned food in the root cellar? I've seen root veggies survive a temporary dip in temps while canning jars burst. edit: amazing root cellar btw...

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

We put canned goods down there more for storage reasons, made more room in the house. We’ve never had an issue with them freezing or breaking. Works really well

[@yellowtomato]

It'll keep way longer at those very low temperatures when bottled/canned. Risk of freezing though.

[@dwightherrington7793]

Was that acontainer buried under ground.

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

You bet, shipping container fully buried under the shed

[@bwilder0487]

Did you ever get any water issues through the floor?

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Nope nothing , works great

[@bwilder0487]

@@NorthPineOutdoors Awesome. That cellar turned out nice. Great work

[@natureswildplayground]

Where do I find how you built this

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

There’s a part 1 and 2 on my channel, caribouau

[@patrapper7367]

@@NorthPineOutdoors links woukd be awesome

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Sorry I’m not to tech savvy, more in the Stone Age

[@leonzios10]

@@patrapper7367 part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHzUoKyherWJrrM Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooq5iqiOfbmpqdE

[@terrymacleod6882]

@@leonzios10 thanks

[@ronniefisher2937]

Get a light

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

Got 3 lights and a lantern, works just fine

[@joesmith7427]

Where are u at?? Then i know not to move there!!

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

You do know lanterns are used inside cabins and wall tents right? Try work on your common sense skills

[@kennoseworthy6473]

The better question is; where you at, Joe, so we know to avoid where the morons hang out!

[@joesmith7427]

Get rid of the fumes frim the latern!!

[@NorthPineOutdoors]

The fumes of you stuck in city traffic is way worse than running a lantern for 1 min in a fresh air piped root cellar