Rory Storm & the Hurricanes

Rory Storm & the Hurricanes was one of the first and most popular groups in the Liverpool club circuit. Question: Is that RINGO STARR playing the drums???

[@Mr_Lupine]

My Dad actually Drummed for them for a while, when Ringo left the Group. Paul Kelly ! He was a singer on the scene !

[@LPJack02]

RIP Rory Storm (January 7, 1938 - September 28, 1972), aged 34 You will always be remembered as a legend.

[@robbybobby01]

@fmarine1 i met and shook hands with ringo starr when he was playing for roy storm ,,in 1962 ,i was 11 years old at the time ,and they were doing a summer season at butlins holiday camp at skegness,and while he was their he got the call to go and join the beatles,and yes he sported a beard then !!!.

[@independentquebec3500]

Nice

[@HWei-ju8ut]

You’re so lucky!!

[@independentquebec3500]

*But did you tell him to play the tambourine more?*

[@hollywoodjoe123]

Robert Curtis you were there at the beginning - wow what a great experience-

[@lety04]

@@independentquebec3500 poor Ringo😂that's cruel,the fact that he had to play tambourine on version 2 of "Love Me Do" was real cruel😔but this comment still made me laugh😂sorry Richie❤

[@johnnyventure]

Ringo WAS in this Band, nobody had body moves like him. It was his left handed-backwards style that was so unique. At their shows every night they featured him solo as "Starr Time". He was famous before the other Beatles.

[@Cosmo-Kramer]

But then Pete Best surpassed him. Pete was only sacked because JP&G were jealous of him being the most popular Beatle.

[@danduntz9112]

@@Cosmo-Kramer That’s all a myth. The Beatles always had the idea of sacking him for someone who played better once they got back from Hamburg. They only used Pete because they didn’t have a drummer when they were told they were going to Hamburg.

[@ChannelRandy]

@@Cosmo-Kramer lol

[@Cosmo-Kramer]

@@danduntz9112 Rubbish. If that were true they wouldn't have waited TWO YEARS to replace him. Pete was a great drummer. But hey, don't take my word for it. Here's what a contemporary drummer of Pete's said when he was asked in an interview what he thought of Pete's drumming: *"He was a genius. You could sit Pete Best on a drum kit and ask him to play for 19 hours and he'd put his head down and do it. He'd drum like a dream with real style and stamina all night long, and that really was The Beatles' sound, forget the guitars. I was amazed when they replaced him. I even thought about learning guitar so he could be the drummer in my band. The Beatles didn't hate Pete Best, but they didn't want to be outshone by their drummer. Ringo was a good drummer but he was more ordinary."* -- Chris Curtis, drummer for The Searchers, a great Liverpool band who scored a 1964 Top 3 Hit in the US charts with their classic, "Love Potion # 9". Chris saw Pete Best play many times in both Hamburg and Liverpool during Pete's two years as The Beatles' drummer.

[@pinksax]

@@Cosmo-Kramer Pete was a better drummer than Ringo. So you are probably right. The comments against him are all from knobs who never saw him with the Beatles. I did and I have been a musician all my life. Best dominated the Beatles and the girls idolized him. Listen to the musicians who were there at the time. Tony Sanders drummer with Billy J, john McNally and Chris Curtis Ray Ennis look them up, all of them rated Pete.

[@peterchecksfield9958]

This is from a documentary called 'Beat City', made in late 1963 and broadcast on 24th December 1963... a LONG time after Ringo left the band!

[@edbermac56]

Yes Ringo was with Rory's band but that is not him in this film clip. It is from a documentary called Beat City which was filmed in 1963, Ringo left for the Beatles in Aug 1962

[@carnack53]

then maybe it's Keef Hartley?

[@mrmurph5046]

I'll ask you the same question I asked others: How are you sure (drummer and dates)?

[@GingerGilligan]

MP Pk Because they know what documentary it was from. They know when the documentary was made. They know who was drumming when. That is how they are sure.

[@elsolitario1741]

@@GingerGilligan bullshit Fucker

[@mdhj67]

Are you sure? That drummer has the head bob and the sweep of the hi-hat that is very characteristic of Ringo.

[@marshallleo6589]

Rory Storm was the bomb back in the day. I mean way back. He had a very interesting style and look.

[@Deanetts]

Marshall Teto They should make a film about him, he was an interesting character!

[@user-vo9xe4yw7i]

Dean Willetts my grandad was mates with him lol

[@hollywoodjoe123]

@@Deanetts Yes Dean Willetts - I also say that they should make a film about RORY STORM and the Hurricanes ! - It is an important time in the history of rock and roll and pop music that should be told to the world , Joe Nania a.k.a. Holylwood Joe

[@ramsaybolton8986]

Joe Nania a comedy film about how the beatles crushed them

[@CelebFactsQuotes]

If machine gun Kelly was a 50s rocker, he'd be Rory Storm

[@mndandy]

By the time this was filmed in late '63, Rory had already gone through 5 drummers since Ringo: Gibson Kemp (later of Paddy, Klaus & Gibson) , Brian Johnson (of Earl Preston & The TTs), Keef Hartley (later with The Artwoods, John Mayall & Keef Hartley Band), Ian Broad (later played with Heinz and Screaming Lord Sutch alongside Ritchie Blackmore) & Trevor Morais (of Faron's Flamingos, later in The Peddlers). Not sure who appears here, definitely not Ringo!

[@jackkennedy_1963]

Thanks for the insight!

[@TheMerseySound1]

Brian Johnson never played with Earl Preston and the TT's. He was with The Strangers, Mark Peters and the Silhouettes and The Tabs

[@transformationgeneration]

Very knowledgeable.

[@Michael-zg8qw]

Umm I think that is Ringo... Tell by his movements, head movement etc etc... Backward left handed...

[@streamofconsciousness5826]

@@Michael-zg8qw It looks like a Lety Drummer but his head is too fat for Ringo, Narrator says the band has been together for seven years, InterNet: Storm, born Alan Caldwell, formed Rory Storm & the Hurricanes in Liverpool in 1957. Originally calling themselves the Raving Texans, they changed their name to Rory Storm & the Hurricanes in 1959. that makes this at least 63, and even though it does not sound like the Beatles have been invented yet which is probably intentional, there was that one Beatles Screaming Girl, maybe Rory did not want it advertised Ringo was in the Band and live off of that, always wonder, did I make it or was it my brief connection to Ringo that did it, maybe a management decision but they definitely do not talk about the biggest band in the World that just came from that same (Liver)pool of bands. Maybe no one knew that you could do that except Pete Best, build a career on being next to a Star for a while. At the same time, parallel thought, they made sure they did not show the Drummer except that Left hand grip look for a brief moment and at the end again for a split second. This is also very 50's sock hop sounding, I don't think it would have flown in the British invasion, and it obviously did not. Cheers! 🍁

[@ronchapman6525]

This group was criminally underrated.

[@waxhead63]

They sure are criminal .. they should have been jailed .. would have kept them off the streets

[@rayjr62]

Supposedly these guys were better musicians than the Beatles.

[@lisettegarcia7013]

@@rayjr62 that's because Ringo Starr was their drummer. Rory didn't let anyone sing or write a song, it was only him. Glad Ringo joined John, Paul, and George.

[@rukminikrishna1938]

At least they had Ringi

[@rukminikrishna1938]

I mean Ringo

[@ralphedenbag4552]

This was shot on June 18, 1963 for the television documentary called "Beat City". It included most of the original members on the Hurricanes (Ty Brian, Johnny Guitar, Lou Walters and of course Rory Storm). As this was done in 1963, Ringo is not on the video (he joined the Beatles in August 62). Their drummer is here Keith "Keef" Hartley, previously from the Thunder Beats. Nevertheless, I believe they're miming their Oriole Recording of "I can tell" whose drumming is Brian Johnson though (he left the hurricanes a few weeks before the shooting to join Mark Peter and the Silouhettes. The girl seen talking about Rory Storm is Pat Davies who would marry Johnny Guitar's brother shortly after. I believe the asian girl at 0:46 could be probably Yeolande Madeira would marry Lou Walters in 1964

[@littlejoeshorse]

This is great footage. I've always heard what a great performer Rory was, but I'd never him. Thanks!

[@camilles925]

Think I just found a new band to love :D

[@m.e.d.7997]

Seems if Brian had taken a liking to the Hurricanes and Rory, they may have had the fate of the Beatles. Of course George Martin needed to accept and like them too. George did say the Beatles had likeability.

[@Mr3sheds]

I find it amazing that, after all these years, people are still debating whether or not it is Ringo playing the drums. If we stick to the facts, this clip is from a series of documentaries filmed by Daniel Farson for ITV in the latter half of 1963. The first wave of Merseybeat groups including The Beatles and The Searchers had all moved on by this time and Farson ended up filming Rory Storm, Earl Preston, Chick Graham and Farons Flamingos - all bands that missed out. Ringo left The Hurricanes in August 1962 to join The Beatles so we can be 100% certain that it isn't him in this clip. As to who it is, Keef Hartley joined The Hurricanes around this time so it may well be him, but I would also suggest that it may be Trevor Morais who also played with the band around this time.

[@becolton]

It is not Ringo If you listen the Blonde says the Beatles are now big, they were not big with Pete Best and that Drummer SUCKED !

[@TheMerseySound1]

Definitely not Trevor as he's playing in this documentary with Faron's Flamingos

[@rukminikrishna1938]

@@becolton he was not the Best I hate Pete Best

[@dlsofsetx]

They were really good,hard to believe they never got as big as Gerry & the Pacemakers.Tragic demise to Rory.

[@richsackett3423]

If you look at the songs it isn't. This tune is crap and the guitar solo is dreadful.

[@tunenito]

Wow, to have seen Rory live, what a thrill! At one point (before the Beatles ruled the Liverpool scene) Rory Storm & the Hurraines was the top group playing in Merseyside. They even had a residency at Butlins (a holiday camp) which was quite an honor for a rock 'n roll band at the time.

[@hollywoodjoe123]

I would say that after a while being that RORY STORM and the Hurricanes only played other peoples music both onstage and on recordings - It sort of became their end - I wish that they would have wrote some of their very own songs - then there may have been a chance they would have lasted longer ! The big question is this - would it have stood up against the song writing of Lennon and McCartney ? That may have been a task to do so !

[@Kowasi]

@@hollywoodjoe123 'Would they have stood up against the song-writing of Lennon and McCartney' you ask. It's impossible to say, as they never wrote songs in the first place. I guess if they had written songs and kept at it, then eventually they'd have made a good few good ones. To beat the Beatles would be harder of course… well, here's to 'Stormania'.

[@pinksax]

Top group in Liverpool was The Big 3... The Remo 4 were the best musicians. Pete was the Beatles, none of the great Lennon& Mac songs had been written at that time. The Beatles turned up from Hamburg rough and ready and Pete epitomised it. The image and the shear power blew everyone away. When Pete left so did the dynamite, they were just another pop group. The way they developed later was the saving grace.

[@BoulevardRecording]

Ringo was one of 4 drummers for Rory Storm. He was never recorded.This song was recorded in 63 well after Ringo had left Rory storm in 62. Ringo was with them 57-62. And the 1960 live recording album of Rory and the Hurricanes Ringo was said to be out with a cold for that gig.

[@lpoxton]

i love the way these guys dance! you dont get that anymore!

[@theselector4733]

These guys sound GREAT......I bet the lead singer was pretty popular with the gals. The documentary is fascinating as it captures a moment in time.......The Mersey scene was HUGE at that time with hundreds of bands and venues. This is something that was very unique to Liverpool and that's why so much great music came out of that era. One of the things I've noticed is that The Beatles sounded different to most of the other bands. They had a rougher and raw sound & look in those early years.

[@lilmissrockchick4962]

Rock in Heaven, Rory ❤ Taken far too soon

[@soulvaccination8679]

The drummer in this band is right in the pocket...Great beat.

[@blisstoriaa]

He died the day after my bday :( I freaking love him though! R.I.P Alan

[@elsolitario1741]

after your BJ?

[@tunenito]

Thanks! Yeah I agree 101% - - I wish there were more videos of Rory. Rory, Rory . . . !

[@ferminguerratello624]

The King Of Liverpool, The Influence For The Garage Rock

[@davidbret8371]

An amazing talent who left us way too soon.

[@tunenito]

Thanks for watching! It's a cool clip. I wish there was more Rory Storm footage available.

[@guusebumps]

At last I can listen to Rory Storm and the Hurricanes!

[@tunenito]

Richard Starkey .... What a brilliant musical career! :-)

[@metalnana]

Fantastic video, it really took me back to how it felt on a good night in the Cavern

[@tunenito]

Totally agree about Ringo's amazing drumming. It was never flashy or over-the-top, but just perfect ... :-)

[@theoreticalmagician4396]

I wish there was more footage of Rory! I think this is the only one around I've found.

[@hollywoodjoe123]

Yeah - where is more film footage of RORY STORM and the Hurricanes in this world ? This can not be the only film footage of them - where is more ?

[@TheMerseySound1]

They were filmed on home video camera when they were in Spain and they appeared on TV’s 5 o’Clock Club to promote their record ‘America’, but no one knows if they exist anymore

[@jimmygutarthn5821]

I wish there’s tutorials on how to play this song cause I feel like my band would love playing the song

[@oldbatwit5102]

@@jimmygutarthn5821 Ask your Mommy to help you.

[@tunenito]

You are so right, wish there was more Rory Storm footage out there ...

[@annaarmstrongphillips5599]

Yes !!!! George is fabulous 😂❤️

[@ChainNonSmoker]

I kinda like Rory and the Hurricans even if it wasn't Ringo's old band. Great rootsy Mersey-rock'N'roll u would not hear anymore anywhere.

[@tunenito]

Very cool lyrics. No doubt, Ringo was one lucky dude to have gone from the Hurricanes to the Beatles. WoW!

[@tunenito]

It's from the 1963 UK documentary BEAT CITY. It's about the Liverpool music scene in the early Sixties. Musically and historically fascinating!

[@sanseverything900]

Very reminiscent of the Shadows (both in the backing and the way the band members are moving in sync). In one interview the Beatles claimed that every band in Britain was trying to emulate the Shadows and they were sick of it.

[@TheMerseySound1]

They exaggerated that claim. There were many Liverpool bands who didn't want to be like the Shadows and didn't do any choreography. Examples include The Big Three, The Undertakers, Lee Curtis and the All-Stars, The Mojos, The Roadrunners and Faron's Flamingos. The Remo Four were Liverpool's top instrumental group but hardly did any choreography. Their guitarist Colin Manley said “I’m glad we never did the walk, I couldn’t do it and play at the same time”.

[@Saturnin344]

Honestly we can't recognize Ringo on this video but the way the drummer hit the HH cymbale is typically how Ringo did with the Beatles... for this reason I think it's Ringo.

[@TheMerseySound1]

It is Keef Hartley on drums. This footage was filmed in August 1963, Ringo was long gone and nowhere near the Cavern by then

[@Saturnin344]

@@TheMerseySound1 tank you... there were some similarities in the way to play, above all on the high hat.

[@jonmelon9792]

I would like to hear a Rory Storm interview as he had a severe stammer when 'speaking'

[@TheMerseySound1]

As far as we know he never did a recorded interview. What audio there is of him talking he’s putting on a voice which probably helped him talk normally in day-to-day life

[@raccuia1]

G G G G Gee. I I I I didn't know tha tha tha that.

[@goojedooje660]

@@TheMerseySound1 he only had a slight stutter

[@TheMerseySound1]

@@goojedooje660 Everyone I've spoken to who knew Rory locally all said his stammer was bad. 'From A Storm To A Hurricane' covers his struggle with it well

[@tunenito]

I've seen many photos of Ringo with the Hurricanes, but never a video... that would be AWEsome!

[@patrickbuzzo1970]

Same with the early Beatles period

[@rudra4625]

cavern is the most iconic place ever for me :P

[@balam1951]

Yes, the left handed drummer of Rory Storm & the Hurricanes is Richard 'Ringo' Starr. Later becomes in a mythical star with The Beatles

[@Nimulak]

Rory Storm and the Hurricanes continued after Ringo left. Brian Epstein even produced a single for them (the only record he ever produced) but it failed to chart. In this same clip the girl is asked if they still see The Beatles. It is during the time they were climbing the charts...and that is after they fired Pete.

[@GingerGilligan]

"George is fabulous!" I'm sure he was! :)

[@Skybii]

Yes it is, Ringo started out in this band. That's how him and the Beatles met.

[@AcousticSoulman]

Great to see the legendary Paddy Chambers featured here.

[@steve7onfire]

This is for a FACT Ringo Starr in this Clip of Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. The band footage is from a earlier performance and the interviews were done at a later time. From 15 seconds to 18 you see Ringo. He uses a unique right hand technique on his high hat and he is using his Premier drum kit which he also used on the Please Please Me record before he went to Ludwig.

[@ronchapman6525]

Coolest band ever? Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, with the young Ringo Starr.

[@tunenito]

Many thanks, glad you like the clips!

[@jacquelinep6514]

"George is fabulous" 💕💕

[@McHaggis62]

If you look at the drummers hands you'll notice the left hand grip is traditional grip. Ringo always used matched grip.

[@davidorwig4756]

He didn't cover "I Can Tell" until long after Ringo left the band. Also... Ringo had a beard the whole time he was with Rory. It was shaved when he joined the Beatles. So this drummer is definitely not Ringo.

[@cursino1]

Not true. There are several pictures of Ringo without beard with this band

[@reijosalminen7502]

@@cursino1 And Ringo is in this clip too.

[@tunenito]

This clip came from the early Sixites UK documentary, Beat City. This is the only performance of Rory in that movie. I wish there was a part two of Rory!

[@petejones879]

First time I've ever seen them and heard them play

[@tunenito]

That's right. It's worth noting that the Beatles (even in the earliest years) never went in for those synchronized steps and movements like the other groups did.

[@tunenito]

Wow, great to hear Ringo's out on the road. No doubt, he's had a long career - - being with Rory Storm *AND* with the Beatles. Yeah, Ringo!!

[@CardinalX]

Who in their right mind would ever leave that group for the Beatles?

[@Efendi_Bass]

The drummer here is the legendary Keef Hartley (who replaced Ringo), who later founded Keef Hartley Band and achieved his fame at Woodstock. A way better drummer than Ringo, the 5 albums of KHB are a must have for every rock connoisseur.

[@maccaholmes4854]

way better, spare me you idiot

[@vyaj]

Ringo was the best drummer for the Beatles

[@Efendi_Bass]

@@vyaj Yes. The same way Slash was the best guitar player in his neighborhood.

[@r.s.204]

2:37 Love how ,bc of the editing, Rory's just alternating between standing up and kneeling on stage before he *actually* squats down at the end of the performance

[@tunenito]

That is very cool - - part of Rock 'n Roll history ...

[@hollywoodjoe123]

yes indeed - - RORY STORM and the Hurricanes are and will always be - - a part of rock and roll history in every way !

[@Nimulak]

Actually, you are both correct (sort of). Ringo is left handed but plays a right handed set up. I can tell by looking at the drummer that it isn't Ringo.

[@markpierce5811]

Ringo's lucky he got out while he had the chance.

[@lisettegarcia7013]

Yeah. I bet if Ringo did write Octopus's Garden while with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, Rory wouldn't let him sing it or perform it. But thank you Brian Epstein and George Martin, Ringo Starr joined The Beatles and we got Octopus's Garden.

[@dantefrias]

The band sounds great as a proto punk Cool!

[@Rockstaralan]

Contrary to any suspicions, that is NOT Ringo drumming with them. Since this is a from a documentary covering the Mersey music scene in light of the Beatles' runaway success, the drummer in question would be Ringo's teenage replacement, Gibson Kemp, who would remain w/Rory & The Hurricanes until they called it quits in the late 60's.

[@lasymanski]

This documentary may be from 1963, but the drummer is Ringo, he does all of Ringo's moves. Probably the band was recorded before Ringo left.

[@TheMerseySound1]

It's definitely not. This was filmed in August 1963 and Ringo was nowhere near the Cavern.

[@ЗмейГаврилыч-ъ5е]

Большое Спасибо!

[@tommylitz4543]

1963 at the Cavern Club. From the BBC TV special Beat City. No Ringo on this one.

[@clarkewi]

Love it.

[@ianness4816]

The song is "I can Tell" first recorded by Bo Diddle. Dr Feelgood made a petty well known cover. This is the version that I like the most

[@devonmoors]

Bo DiddleY !

[@albievanwalsem6705]

yes it is Ringo! RIngo Starr was the drummer hurricanes before joining the beatles in august 1962, replacing Original drummer pete best. Found on Wikipedia.

[@TheMerseySound1]

And this was filmed in August 1963, so no it isn’t him

[@marshallleo6589]

Bring back this music. Somebody make something real here in London. What happened to real music. I mean, look at the birds there..amazing

[@Jack30355]

They are good. I like the footage.

[@giles422]

tuneito, you've struck again- you have a tremendous collection it seems- thanks again

[@tunenito]

Muchas gracias! Saludos desde USA, tunenito :-)

[@xwsftassell]

Thanks!

[@blisstoriaa]

Everyone looks so uninterested in this look at those girls faces lol Love you Rory R.I.P

[@chadpittman3025]

If you listen to the story the girl says in the middle of the song she says that Rory storm hit her friend in the face with a tape ball and got violent and when she asked for a ride home he dropped them off at the cemetery

[@TheMerseySound1]

She said it was a piece of toast and the whole story is bogus. Rory would have probably done it as a prank if it's real, but he wasn't the violent person she claims he was

[@ClasicRko]

it's cleary ringo...i'd recongnize that head banging anywhere

[@gonzalosaavedra8258]

Que música tan chingonaaaaa hizo esa generación!!!!

[@michaelaparicio3182]

Rory seems like he was a fascinating performer. Has Ringo ever discussed his time with the band? I'll look. But I'd appreciate a lead.

[@adrinathegreat3095]

it's not Ringo as this was filmed mid 1963 after many groups including the beatles has exploded onto the music charts and were busy recording, touring etc etc, These guys had a huge amount of talent and stage presence, but they just didn't tap into their saleability on a large scale. they were a top attraction wherever they played, just didn't get the breaks needed for countrywide exposure and fame. they remained a big fish in a small pond

[@jasonmeza9500]

Kinda looks like Ringo's head movements while drumming!

[@juliantorres4836]

Jason Meza nah ringo was in the Beatles at this time.

[@carolienfranken2924]

Geweldige video van Rory Storm met Ringo Starr!

[@62M.St.]

What a kool vintage clip - outa-site, man! Regards, '62 Mathew St. (Total Retro Rock)

[@playmymusicNOW]

Dude Rory was freaking hot and he died way before his time...

[@kaivrock]

Great garage band sound.

[@Bellmore1395]

Sounds like The Who in the early days. Pretty good

[@SonicLizzz]

Actually: Rolling Stone magazine published an article TODAY suggesting that tapes has been found, and that an album will be released with it later this month!

[@fminixhofer]

Ringo Starr was the drummer of the Hurricanes before he joined the Beatles.

[@3155DOGMAN]

Definitely Ringo.

[@KarlMartell732]

Ringo was the luckiest man of the 20th century :)

[@3155DOGMAN]

KarlMartell732 Foe sure.

[@Xcorgi]

KarlMartell732 .....and Pete Best was the Unluckiest!

[@m.e.d.7997]

@@KarlMartell732 Agree but so were George and Paul. John had the band before they all joined.

[@thewarisover1]

@squeezemasteeze ¬¬ ringo was the drumer of rory storm and the hurricanes, and then was the drumer of the beatles

[@102oxley]

saw rs and the hurricanes at butlins in app 1959 great band

[@hauntboy]

They rebuilt it as close to how it was on the inside, as in this clip, as was possible, but it was not on the same site, it was on the other side of Mathew St and down a bit from where it is here.

[@bernhardnizynski4403]

He looks like he should be lead singer in a surfing' band!

[@mongrove]

Just seen my brother Alan Endfield as a 16 year old in this clip!!! I was just 8 aaaaH! He's the one at the beginning opening a bottle of something!

[@shaneturner500]

@TheGrease529 yes it is. i am reading "John Lennon, the life", and it says while doing gigs with rory storm, he, paul, george, pete (best), and stu sutcliffe developed a friendship with their drummer, ringo starr, clear proof that ringo was the drummer.

[@milorodriguez3739]

that's definitely ringo. the way he swipes at the symbols, the head bob, the streak of white hair. honestly have any of you ever seen ringo starr before?

[@bootle11]

You listen to early Beatles , they learned to play off the Hurricanes! Lennon has the same style as Johnny guitar even as far as All My Lovin'. good stuff

[@BernieOliver]

It is definitely Ringo. The documentary this clip is from shows both John and Paul hanging out just offstage by the piano and Coke stand.

[@TheMerseySound1]

It’s definitely not. It’s Keef Hartley

[@shilluxlove]

yes ringo was in this band for a couple of years till he joined the beatles .

[@j7777777]

i have a copy of it somewhere on video . i have,nt put it onto dvd yet , but when i do, you can have a copy if you like :) .

[@j7777777]

hi jimbo , i,ve had the video about 15 years now , but its stached away on my video collection somewhere. i,ll have a look for it ,and if i find it ,i,ll put it onto dvd and send you a copy . bye 4 now jimmy :) .