Rosehill Roundabout, The Worst Roundabout in Surrey ?

[@jillgarlick2122]

Tony you haven't bored me at all, but have made me once again realise how lucky I am to live in a beautiful but fairly sparsely populated area where there are no multi lane roads and no traffic lights, just a few roundabouts. I am in no danger of raised blood pressure due to the roads or number of people driving. I watch your videos and feel much blessed!

[@paulcurrie128]

Totally agree. London looks like a nightmare even if you drive correctly!

[@ForkCandle123]

Agreed that the first camera didn't do it justice. And it's not even round! That's more like a Solar System than a Roundabout.

[@andreashaynes3346]

Good job you know what you're doing Tony and patient with other drivers, on this roundabout. Thanks for sharing with us. Always enjoy your viewpoint 👍👍👍

[@Stephenjoe-nu3pr]

Agree with you 100% about this roundabout.I have lost count off the number of near misses i have had, going from Wrythe Lane to Green Lane in the last 7 years.

[@tynkabell9972]

And going back the other way. People get in the inside lane at the lights at Green Lane and go all the way round the roundabout to get into Wrythe Lane.

[@bustersw1760]

I used to live just down Bishopsford Road for years, and prior to the traffic lights and excessive road markings it didn`t seem too bad, so it seems to be these causing a problem. I moved away about 30 years ago so I rarely go there these days, except to see the in laws who live down Wrythe Lane, above those shops. I still don`t have a problem with it, and the only thing I miss about it, is popping into The Rose for a drink.

[@mildertduck]

I think that you’re supposed to move out from the inside between the stop line at 8:21 and the stop line at 8:25 - it looks like the one lane that you’re in becomes three at that point!

[@mildertduck]

The silver corsa at 12:34 took what I think the line is intended to be…

[@haydensmall8826]

I now know I don’t want to drive around that roundabout 😂😂 great video

[@David-km8in]

Hi, thanks for all the videos this year. A very Happy Christmas and New year.

[@quadangalo]

Tony. I drive Rosehill almost daily and I'm consistently flabbergasted at the absurd lines everyone takes because of the poor structure of the roundabout and their negligence. I despise the light cycles and especially during rush hour when people block up the exits by jumping reds just to sit in a queue 2 metres in front. Alas all we can do is grit our teeth and pray we make it out unscathed. Love the videos and look forward to more shenanigans on Rosehill

[@stevedavies7722]

Up to and including 1 o clock position was always left lane

[@deathpod1975]

I used to drive 157, 151 and S4, if we took right lane from Wrythe lane we would need to cut back in to enter Green Lane or St Helier Ave. I have answered this a few times Mr Tony, but the lane going right into Bishopfords Road is designed for Green Lane traffic. When you came from Green Lane you took the lane around to the right to access Wrythe Lane, however if you were going to Mitcham you would use that lane on the left and not have conflict with traffic turning right. That is what that lane is for, but drivers misuse it. If they removed that ability to take a right into bishopfords road then you would have issues as green lane traffic would have to join the traffic in lanes two and three.

[@thelondondashcam]

I did say that buses get a pass being in the left lane and turning right, only because of their size. You must have seen so many people try to go down the A217 from lane 2 across you which is what I'm getting at in that clip. And as for people coming out of green lane going to mitcham they have got to merge into lane 2 anyway so why have that lane on the left for them to shoot down the inside and cut straight across people that are in lane two, doesn't make sense.

[@daviemac9925]

I made it all the way to the end, Thanks for the ride and for reinforcing my belief that I never want to do that Roundabout!

[@dallasfrost1996]

That looks like a nightmare of a roundabout, luckily for me we don't have roundabout like these here in New Zealand. All we basically have are single or double lane circular roundabouts without traffic lights. The drivers over here make those basic roundabouts seem difficult though.

[@YDdraigGoch01]

Tony, at 1310, the Berk in the Merc couldn't have been using your wax, as the video was recorded in 2017, before you had launched the wax!!!! Have a good Christmas.

[@MuzMUX]

There's a round a bout in Bicester smaller but wrong markings..

[@fredlenz4743]

It's an oval, probably needs wickets at both ends and red ball before it will work properly.

[@lefthandedspanner]

blimey, I thought College Road roundabout in Rotherham was bad for signage (and a double lane drop at one exit that's barely signposted at all) but this looks like an absolute disaster area!

[@annewood5562]

Should you have included the Hanger Lane Gyratory, I used to hate driving that route to Park Royal, 😮😂

[@johnfh]

Thanks Tony, I even put off eating dinner to watch this! There's n old saying "the law is an ass". it seems to apply at this roundabout. Greetings from Stockholm.

[@johncranna9427]

I generally agree with how you take exit to Green Lane rather than viewers' advice as having to cross two/three lanes after coming around sounds daft. But I would not call this a rounadabout as it is not circular andctherecare so many roads joining it that a better description is a gyratory system. The othe point is that on roubdabouts or gyratory systems you do not go left, right or straight on, but you takecan exit - be it 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th or even 5th!! You would never hear an examiner say go left but theyd say take the first exit. All that can really be deduced iscthatvits isnt clear which is always the best lane to take and that you need to be always aware of other cars getting confused and having to change lanes unexpectedly.

[@mattendo-retrogaminguk3584]

Just wanted to say thank you for giving me advice on all the knobhead stereotypes on the road for my driving test. I did. come accross an Audi and it did have its self entitled wax on and came right up my arse. Really made me feel stressed but I had the best driving examiner ever and we talked about sports for the whole thing! I know you think you didn’t help me and it was all me, but those stereotypes unfortunately are true you bring up in your videos. Also made me aware of the speed I should use in narrow areas, especially where there’s knobheads!

[@mattendo-retrogaminguk3584]

Btw if it’s not clear I passed!

[@nicholasroberts6954]

Remember . . . the reality is that you are somebody else's knobhead, thwarting their undisclosed driving intentions. Just saying.

[@terry-f2c]

@@mattendo-retrogaminguk3584 Well done. Now you really learn to drive.

[@gerhard6105]

17:51, this should only have two lanes ro start with. And then the rest also t wo lanes: way less conflicts. We Dutch would block it, rip the whole roundabout out and build a modern new one. We only one last such a shit roundabout in Nijmegen ( the city before the A Bridge Too Far city). But for now i see some some minor adjustments that could be done to make it more logical.

[@Shill63]

Good video ,however Imo I think most drivers will be following their satnavs, it would be interesting to see which lanes they advise you to drive in

[@haydnwatson-taylor6362]

The second section is so frustrating Like you id take your person line, middle lane round merge over to the left to go down wrythe lane, but have you ever been stuck at the Lights just as you come round to lidl (other A217 end to mitcham) but then the A297 lights turn green and you get completely pushed away from merging left down to exit to wrythe lane. it’s an absolute joke and you end up going down towards angel hill/sutton instead as you get pushed to the middle lane

[@Pomdownuder]

Christ it was bad when I lived there (Sutton Common) in the 90s - it looks like it got even bloody worse.

[@owencope3778]

Sounds like you can't win with this roundabout Tony! 😅

[@nicholasroberts6954]

Only one answer, they have to do as they did all along the A40 in West London, out to Hillingdon, or Hammersmith Broadway or the Cherry Blossom roundabout near Fullers Brewery, Chiswick on the Bath Road (A4), underpasses or fly-overs for whatever routeing is considered to be the largest traffic flow. Will they have money to do it ? . . . nah . . Unikely at the moment. They'll be waiting for all the cars to go away and solve the problem for them, although the advent of Euro 7 emission standards next year may help . . . In making some of the cars go away. In the meantime, maybe overhead direction gantries may help directing people to the correct lane. as would closing-off some of the minor road entries to the roundabout.- my local nightmare 1970s roundabout (The one where the statement "Nicholas Parsons is the neo-opiate of the people" was scrawled on part of the hard shoulder wall) only has four feeder road entrances/exits.

[@terry-f2c]

Swindon is alleged to have the most complicated roundabout in the land,

[@samhenwood5746]

I had a bad accident on Hanger Lane & it’s really put me off driving around London 😫Thanks The London Dash Cam & Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 🥳🎅🎄🚕

[@thelondondashcam]

Hanger Lane is another busy roundabout where everyone drives too fast

[@Christopher-b2e]

I'm with you totally.

[@georgeday5901]

At rose hill that right turn arrow is for the a217 to reigate ,look at the road markings on the ground

[@nicholasroberts6954]

They could cut a new shortcut road for people in the offside lane going north-south across the centre of the greenery on the roundabout in effect creating two daisy-chained roundabouts.. . .,Hemel Hempstead sytle. Obviously egress from such roads would need to be traffic light controlled

[@michellesimpson4364]

Nice flash Tony

[@SWBiker1957]

Ive always wanted to go round this roundabout, perhaps one day

[@malgf4145]

11.08 - You will notice 2 lanes of traffic waiting to come onto the r/about, what are the markings on these 2 lanes ? Can they go into the lane that you say is a right turn only lane ???

[@acerimmer3802]

Looking at the map, and knowing your demographic, I'd say of most interest is the A217 exit towards Joseph's toupees

[@stevejardine3914]

Yes, loved that track. LoL

[@michellesimpson4364]

Great video ❤

[@paulbanham9678]

Tony to be honest the amount of instructors don’t know what they are doing so all they do is pass on their lack of knowledge and bad habits

[@suenettleton2286]

Hi toney the whole thing is a absolute shambles it needs these council to look and do it properly, I would say fat cats with not a clue of the roads at all . The Audi needs some wax . No you haven't borde us at all .🚘

[@peterthefoxx]

It would be interesting to see if you could re-draw what you think the markings could be to improve it - but it also doesn’t help when an Audi won’t follow any marking or logic :D. I have had a look at the layout out of interest and you can kind of see why they’ve done it like this to serve all directions but it would only work if everyone followed the markings perfectly which doesn’t work in practise since the lanes look like they should work differently as you believe - also your common sense approach probably helps flow. You covered the two most contentious directions & I think your way is fine given the circumstances & behaviour of the road - you kind of have to do it this way when others are so it’s a self-sustaining rule. The ‘cut across’ shouldn’t be as extreme if done immediately / early rather than after the turn - but you can totally see why it’s not possible with other people not expecting you to do this and are in the left lane. On google maps history it looks like they tried to make the markings clearer (against your method) but it’s too little too late. Love the commentary & Ty for covering this roundabout further.

[@briantinker7290]

err, overuse of the word Tinkering :)

[@rogereheadbyrne4790]

Thankyou for your common sense video Tony its a shame that so many numptys ruin it for the rest and make driving so dangerous! I dont drive, but im glad because if i did, someone out there driving obstructing me would likely get rammed and i would be locked up!Seasons Greetings to you and your family mate!😜👍

[@kevinbrewis6014]

yes I made it to the end, got to say thanks for saying exit properly, always hear eggzit or beggzit, as you said ex it not eggzit like some numbties, haha,

[@alunrundle162]

Did you just say the Audi driver thought himself 'a Lidl bit better'? How COULD you pun like that??? 😉

[@terry-f2c]

Aldi / Lidl Good word play, I would say, it very nearly made my day.

[@barrymurton8988]

Not Surrey, but London!

[@nicholasroberts6954]

You talk about Audi drivers and self-entitlement wax, . . but in my view most of 'em are self-entitled. I mean to say who needs an SUV or 4 x 4 (Look-alike or real) driving round London. Its just status. The only people that may make good use of 4 x 4 capabities are the rebels in the Mid-East or the War- Lords in Afghanistan. All the 4 x 4s do in London is block roads, reduce visibility and confirm to all viewers that the Victorian. Edwardian and 1930s London roads were not built to accomodate such large vehicles. Most of them could do their journies in Citroen Amis or Fiat 500s and obtain reduced journey times. But there you go, status rules.

[@terry-f2c]

Other makes and models of vehicles also have their self entitlement club members.

[@janeadams53]

I remember rosehill before the light were installed it was never a problem

[@johncranna9427]

That's interesting. I was thinking whether its a good idea to have lights, or not!

[@heatherhoward2513]

Personally, it looks like a footy field , not a roundabout. Shut your eyes and pray?

[@grahamnutt8958]

I made it to the end; sanity and #tits intact 🤣🤣🤣

[@johncranna9427]

Virgo intactio??!!

[@michellesimpson4364]

Tony Is the rose hill roundabout a spiral roundabout?

[@tomattwell4867]

@thelondondashcam waht video are you referring to the ninjas

[@haydensaxby2158]

Someone get Ashley Neal on the case, he'll sort this out.

[@tjampman]

You are all wrong! Technically it is a gyrotary 😝

[@johncranna9427]

Yes! That's whatcI said and because of that there is no real correct or incorrect lane. You just haven't been prepared for cars moving across lanes. It seems wrong THAT LDC would have to move across 3 three lanes so I'd support him on that.

[@michellesimpson4364]

That roundabout isn’t even round it’s rectangular

[@mrfill9999]

If you're going to be fussy, it is an oblate. 🤣

[@michellesimpson4364]

@ not fussy just observant

[@johncranna9427]

I've said that and the comnent after you said that. It's a gyratory system rather than a roundabout and especially here but also on roundabouts, you don't go left orcstraight on etc but take a certain exit, be it 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. It's a very fluid system as you go around. You need to becpatient and aware of other vehicles that may need to cross lanes ahead of you.

[@cashtimevideo1501]

I'm glad I don't drive there! 🫨. If I remember correctly, in Colchester back in the 1970's, they tried experimenting with different layouts on one particular roundabout - doubles, quadruples, all temporarily created using tyres. The layouts seemed to change weekly, so every time you arrived, you had to learn a different route through it! Confusing as hell, but they eventually got the right layout... I think... 😆