Rosenbaum Trial Day 2 Cynthia Tate, Tiffany Shaw & Dr John Potts - Pediatrician

[@jennifers.3818]

so DCFS was basically harassing these women who actually took good care of Layla but she goes to the abusive home and never gets investigated by DCFS?? They never came and viewed her naked like they did at the other home?? why? bc this woman was active in the community? bc she put on a good facade?? none of that matters! this case just boils my blood the more it goes on!!

[@jlewis9043]

Unfortunately

[@laradesautel9251]

Jennifer S. Wow.. you said what I said only better!! Yes yes yes it’s horrifying!!

[@sarahkeppler8043]

Mrs Tate and Mrs Shaw cared for her so much. You can truely see that they loved her a lot. It is really upsetting that she wasen't able to stay with them.

[@potocatepetl]

They were not harassing her. The grandmother of the girls made serious complaints and they investigated. Anyone would investigate if there are suspicions of alcoholism and inappropriate behaviour.

[@RobloxGamer12941]

@@potocatepetl but at least they were investigated. The baby killers weren't at all. They just let them do whatever.

[@julsjewels3185]

If I was sitting in court on trial for murder- I would NOT be chewing gum.

[@petalpinkton8682]

They need to ban chewing gum in a court of law. It's extremely rude and shows no respect.

[@tamiflo]

Most courts don't allow it

[@cynthiaperkins5584]

I agree,her and her husband both.Also is this judge new,he seems odd to me.

[@spiritwalker9903]

Demons

[@laradesautel9251]

juls jewels just feel compelled to share..I have been a gum-oholic all the way back in my memory. I even remember when I was about eight years old my grandma - who made pottery etc for a living - sent me a little figurine of two feet that were shaped like a u so you could put your gum on it and I had it next to my bed to put my gum in each night. Crazy right? I can’t remember ever not having gum with me and I regularly got in trouble in school for chewing it. I say all that to say, if I had gum in my mouth or if I have gum in my mouth and have to do something important like a court appearance (divorce court ugh) or a doctor’s visit etc.. I take the damn gum out of my mouth or if caught off guard it sits on side of my gums hidden with zero chewing because even I get how rude and disrespectful it appears to other people so .. yep.. I’m an oversharer too.. meh.. just agreeing ;)

[@lucylove4514]

Such a shame. This little angel did not have a house she could call home ever since she was born. I am so sorry baby girl. You never asked for this. You are safe now, in the arms of God. I pray justice will be served for this beautiful child.

[@janisjarthur]

These poor girls went through 7 different foster homes! Of course layla had problems after that! Layla was becoming a catatonic baby. Her trauma was seen as behavior issues. These kids should not have been moved from one place to another all the time to live with friends of friends, acquaintances, foster parents, lots of different strangers.Tessa used to give her kids as if they were toys to anyone who wanted to take care of them

[@bonnierasmussen2837]

Like how the defense trys to blame victim, but then does not want the state to talk about it.

[@stephybrant8543]

Aww the Dr reaction to those photos was heartbreaking

[@RobloxGamer12941]

I don't know if I'm ready for that. Watching all their reactions is heartbreaking 😥

[@rachelslocombe8507]

Calm as he is, you can see he’s visibly shocked when they show him the photos.

[@jlewis9043]

Absolutely!

[@donnawhite1292]

This is just heartbreaking. Laila was at least loved and cared for before the Rosenbaums got her in their home. I don’t understand how or why this hateful witch and her spineless excuse for a husband wanted to foster these girls. They obviously have no love in their hearts and definitely have no souls because they have shown zero remorse and zero sympathy. Also, their defense attorney isn’t doing them any favors by attacking the biological mother! Tessa did not murder Laila! Her clients did that. Joseph may not have dealt the blows to Laila, but he lived with that monster wife of his and he turned a deaf ear and a blind eye to the abuse...and for that, they are both GUILTY. Rest now baby, justice is coming. 😪

[@Faceyourfears374]

I feel as though these murderers only wanted to use these precious angel's as a means to relate to the public! Jennifer was trying to become a public figure within their city. When people in these positions "advertise" themselves to the public for the purpose of getting voted in often times they use pictures of their families. It shows a gentle side of the often harsh personality of politicians. They didnt love these girls they used them!!

[@janisjarthur]

These poor girls went through 7 different foster homes! Of course layla had problems after that! Layla was becoming a catatonic baby. Her trauma was seen as behavior issues. These kids should not have been moved from one place to another all the time to live with friends of friends, acquaintances, foster parents, lots of different strangers.Tessa used to give her kids as if they were toys to anyone who wanted to take care of them Jennifer and her husband are two monsters who deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. But Layla’s junky mother is guilty for her death.

[@carolinemumzie3199]

Omg how many people watched this child in her short little life all these strangers around her 😡

[@lovepigs1]

I totally agree that her biological mother will not win any mother of the year awards, but keep in mind, she didn't kill her child and probably never would have. Sometimes it's the monsters that look good on the surface you have to watch the closest.

[@janisjarthur]

These poor girls went through 7 different foster homes! Of course layla had problems after that! Layla was becoming a catatonic baby. Her trauma was seen as behavior issues. These kids should not have been moved from one place to another all the time to live with friends of friends, acquaintances, foster parents, lots of different strangers.Tessa used to give her kids as if they were toys to anyone who wanted to take care of them Jennifer and her husband are two monsters who deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. But Layla’s junky mother is guilty for her death.

[@cocochannel8932]

Friggin stray cats and dogs get treated better than these children

[@karilevasseur6124]

Yes the mom had a problem but she never harmed her babies. She is not the monster.

[@lillycasey2657]

The mom let her babies down by using drugs

[@karilevasseur6124]

@@lillycasey2657 yes totally agree.

[@lillycasey2657]

@🆓COGNITIVE DISSIDENT 🆓 hey she went on to have more children who were taken into care she hasnt learnt her lesson

[@roonil3931]

@@lillycasey2657 no, she had her last child in 2015

[@sheinFL]

Who was the father's of the kids? They don't seen to be in the courtroom?

[@christinenicole8762]

Watching Tiffany Shaw testify and her instantly crying at the view of pictures breaks my heart and makes me cry! She was one caregiver who truly loved Laila. 😢

[@asenath7766]

I like Dr. Potts. He's old school no nonsense.

[@Mamaichi86]

The line of question from the prosecution about the vitamin C allergy. Bravo sir. Bravo.

[@joshuaearp9494]

DFCS was far too intrusive, but apparently not enough when it came to Jennifer the Monster.

[@janisjarthur]

The great grandmother and Millie's dad helped to mess up the girls' lives even more. Otherwise they would never have gone to the monster Jennifer. Millie was on the way of being adopted by the Chapmans and Laila would be adopted by Tiffany Shaw but the bio mom's family ruined their chances when they kidnapped Millie from the Champman's home and she was sent back to Tiffany who couldn't afford taking care of the two girls plus her own baby son.

[@leeannrodriguez9178]

Dr Potts voice was so calm and soothing it put me right to sleep…..it had to be like kryptonite to the juror that couldn’t stay awake 😂

[@cocochannel8932]

This trial is filling my heart with hope . There seems to be so many good people fostering children in need.

[@peapotfairy]

I get what you are saying but this statement is a bit odd in the circumstance

[@marshapieroni6677]

If CPS would shape up and act right!

[@janisjarthur]

These poor girls went through 7 different foster homes! Of course layla had problems after that! Laila was becoming a catatonic baby. Her trauma was seen as behavior issues. These kids should not have been moved from one place to another all the time to live with friends of friends, acquaintances, foster parents, lots of different strangers.Tessa used to give her kids as if they were toys to anyone who wanted to take care of them

[@forthebeez]

Defense first tries to blame the mother....now the little girl was "bad" and no one wanted her...so, I guess it is OK to beat her??? This makes me so angry. Those poor girls ---and no protection from the state.

[@marisalynn9319]

Thank you for pointing that out, the defense attorney is just the worst kind of person

[@Bronwyn0507]

In her opening statement she made it a point to say the new adoptive parents are taking her to a shrink to find out "why she lies so much". Maybe she's using attention seeking behaviors bc her first years of life were so unstable! I really don't like the defense attorney

[@janisjarthur]

These poor girls went through 7 different foster homes! Of course layla had problems after that! she started showing signs of aggression, fighting with her sister, pulling hair and sometimes throwing herself on the ground. She was afraid of sudden movements. And she hardly spoke at all.Layla was becoming a catatonic baby. Her trauma was seen as behavior issues. These kids should not have been moved from one place to another all the time to live with friends of friends, acquaintances, foster parents, lots of different strangers.Tessa used to give her kids as if they were toys to anyone who wanted to take care of them

[@janisjarthur]

NO ONE WANTED LAYLA. Her great grandmother said she could only take care of Millie, but not Layla. The Chapman family only wanted to adopt Millie but not Layla.The tumultuous world of Layla seemed to take a toll on the child. She could lash out, sometimes against herself.Layla started showing signs of aggression, fighting with her sister, pulling hair and sometimes throwing herself on the ground. She was afraid of sudden movements. And she hardly spoke at all. But instead of loving her people just didn't want her around. Even the monster Jennifer told the gymnastics teacher that Millie washer bio daughter but Layla was just a foster kid, a 'drug kid' (in her words). layla was failed at every level. The 'before' and 'after' photos are heartbreaking. Well I think Patricia Lambert was the one who REALLY cared about these girls, particularly the poor Layla.

[@DIimitra90443]

I really get confused with all these people watching Leyla and Milly. Poor children I hope Milly is getting the chance to live a nice life with "parents" who love her

[@Bronwyn0507]

From what I heard in opening statements, she's been adopted. I hope she's being well cared for and loved. Even if the prosecutor tried to make that little girl a villain by stating "she lies all the time." Edit *not prosecutor, defense attorney

[@RobloxGamer12941]

I think all three of the girls were adopted by one mother. I think she fostered them and them adopted them. And changed all their names. She does testify in this case but I'm sure you got that far and heard all of that

[@patriciagriswold6060]

Is that woman in the front of the witness repeating everything being said? If it is a method of electronic recording, why don't they equip the speakers with microphones?

[@smcarney]

Yeah, how can she catch everything? I keep being distracted by that

[@sandhyamandara4]

Wouldn't probably catch every accent if connected to the speakers.. the thing must be programmed to record only her voice.. this is so much easier for them as opposed to typing out the whole transcript.. I've always admired their concentration n speed... I would lose track after 5 words 😂😂

[@sueannnatter5295]

@@sandhyamandara4 I wonder if the court reporters used to get carpal tunnel from all that typing so they switched to this new method of speaking into that device?

[@sandhyamandara4]

@@sueannnatter5295 Absolutely! Imagine the stress on those poor wrists...

[@jcmore7971]

All I know is it looks ridiculous lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobe3250]

Defense Attorney gets the date wrong and then questions the Dr. "Whose they?"... Get the date right and we can discuss who "they" is.

[@shezasmitty2461]

Not sure if the death penalty is available in this state, but I sure hope so

[@crystalanne4398]

For the defense attorney too. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@janisjarthur]

NO ONE WANTED LAYLA. Her great grandmother said she could only take care of Millie, but not Layla. The Chapman family only wanted to adopt Millie but not Layla.The tumultuous world of Layla seemed to take a toll on the child. She could lash out, sometimes against herself.Layla started showing signs of aggression, fighting with her sister, pulling hair and sometimes throwing herself on the ground. She was afraid of sudden movements. And she hardly spoke at all. But instead of loving her people just didn't want her around. Even the monster Jennifer told the gymnastics teacher that Millie was her bio daughter but Layla was just a foster kid, a 'drug kid' (in her words). layla was failed at every level. The 'before' and 'after' photos are heartbreaking. Well I think Patricia Lambert was the one who REALLY cared about these girls, particularly the poor Layla.

[@fiona9912]

I really like this judge. Actually all the folks on either side are spot on.

[@jennifermillsrhit6607]

Jesus- these kids were bounced EVERYWHERE!

[@bobe3250]

Not just these kids. MANY kids in America are bounced around. That's why we have DFACS.

[@marshapieroni6677]

I wish that judge had not made that ruling. Ms Tate seemed genuinely fond of Laila and very invested in helping Tessa get help. The baby could have been well cared for plus had her mother with her. At least temporarily.

[@marshapieroni6677]

And I just now thought of this. I know Peggy Banks probably did what she thinks was best at the time, but she was part of the problem at times. She stole the baby from one loving caregiver, and she called DHS on another loving caregiver. She also said lots of things around Millie she shouldn't have said.

[@janisjarthur]

The great grandmother and Millie's dad helped to mess up the girls' lives even more. Otherwise they would never have gone to the monster Jennifer. Millie was on the way of being adopted by the Chapmans and Laila would be adopted by Tiffany Shaw but the bio mom's family ruined their chances when they kidnapped Millie from the Champman's home and she was sent back to Tiffany who couldn't afford taking care of the two girls plus her own baby son.

[@pamannnor415]

Why is the defense harping on things before the Rosenbaums got her. It seems like both girls were being taken care of somewhat. At least Leila was alive.

[@susanstoneking5939]

Wow the defense attorney is ignorant

[@maureenfungafat4780]

So wicked . Bashing Peggy . Peggy was unable to look at Laila a toddler because of her condition . Millie did not need Peggy to lift her up but Laila needed to be changed as a baby

[@constancemaria4707]

Mrs Peggy Banks, the great grandmo didn't want Layla and didn't love the baby. On the contrary, she messed up with the baby's life with her lies about all the caretakers. Otherwise she would have never met the monster Jennifer. Poor baby.

[@jlewis9043]

God bless the people who cared for these little girls. They thought "for a couple of days" turned out to be longer. As for Tessa's family.... Shame in you for not caring for your family and exposing coworkers and friends to care for them and now go through this! Family is family. Grandmothers', father, great grandmother, aunts'. ....... Shame on you! What Happened to family taking care of family. I guess this hits too "close to home" for me! All around for happy Halloween and Thanksgiving ect... What about pulling together for these girls and mom if you couldn't Solo? Sorry for your loss but... You contributed by picking strangers to care for these babies

[@sarahholt5575]

No the friends from work actually loved and cared for them , it’s when they were placed with the rosenbaums who skipped all the steps to become a FP, bc she was in law school, and the disgusting case worker who NEVER CHECKED ON THEM! However when they were with friends dcf was overbearing etc snd then never checked in on the monsters that BEAT, STARVED & MURDERED! Just disgusting!

[@necotin8659]

If you want to do drugs, make the priority drug birth control or use something for God's sake.

[@genxis6097]

Yes! When girls are prescribed Accutane (for severe acne), they must also take birth control pills because Accutane causes severe birth defects.

[@louisepowell6939]

I agree. She has had 5 babies that she had to give up because of drugs. You think she’d use birth control.

[@runfree6249]

Why are you not showing the evidence photos? Not even seeing the ones that are when the children were younger.

[@ruthvaldez8520]

Right I hate that. I want to see what the Jury sees.

[@susannahdenhart4261]

It's because it's a child. Probably naked and vulnerable. Which isn't appropriate to show publicly

[@msangelz]

RUN FREE think has something to do with Judge not permitting it ..

[@sheilamull6769]

@@susannahdenhart4261 I wonder if the photos are available anywhere?

[@MissysAngels]

The judge chewed out the camera guy a few days ago for live streaming the photos and he had to swear he would not show any or would be in trouble because they are minor children... When this channel uploaded this trial they probably edited them out or they would be in legal trouble. I bet you can find them somewhere though because they were streamed live until judge had a fit...

[@nunyahbizzniss5140]

These lil girls were passed through homes so many times they deserved better than that.

[@pochitamexicana]

Watching this monster chew gum and go through paper work like nothing just irritates me …

[@RobloxGamer12941]

I think she actually thought that they were going to get away with this and that they were going to be able to explain away every little mark on that poor baby's body. Well too bad so sad for them that Millie thankfully survived them and was able to corroborate everything being said pretty much

[@nancygerger5015]

Nice to see someone truly crying for Laila

[@maureenfungafat4780]

Tiffany is so upset seeing he pics. She cared for Millie and Laila

[@RobloxGamer12941]

Now all but the witness mics are not working. Wth

[@amandaparker5775]

I hope the state was held a little accountable for this child.

[@noraoros9974]

Dr. is a G! ❤him

[@kassidygean]

Peggy should have neverh lied on Cynthia tate like that but I get where Miley was coming from at 16:14 I've always been extremely close with one set of grandparents so I get how she felt at that age.

[@grazielachristina1276]

yes and meanwhile Laila's mom (now Tess Jillyn) keeps having babies. The last one is boy called Matrixx.

[@kassidygean]

@@grazielachristina1276 Damn I really hope she's gotten herself clean and is taking care of him.

[@sheilahenderson1151]

Why does the defense attorney keep bring up the ladder. It is like she is attacking the children

[@AllieBFromTN]

Why did the grandmother not want anything to do with Layla? (May have misspelled her name)

[@rosep8481]

Allison Barnes I think the defense phrases it that way on purpose to discredit Peggy. Peggy stated that it was difficult to watch Laila because she had several back problems. She was closer to Millie because she had her quite a bit as a baby. Same situation I have with my granddaughters. I love them both but am closer to the older one because we have more shared history together. Defense attorney wants to twist that into something that makes Peggy look bad because Peggy is an important witness for the prosecution

[@chetyoubetya8565]

She said she could not lift or change her

[@bonnienelson7373]

Two kids for her was too much. Makes sense...she was the great grandmother.

[@ellp152]

Sad to hear all the places these little girls lived!! Really hope the 2 girls are in a stable, loving home now! And may there little sister RIP ❤️🙏🙏

[@masonsjourneylivingwithacc7029]

Millie is adopted now along with her 2 younger biological sisters. Her adopted mum is one of the witnesses in this trial, she seems lovely and you can tell she loves all three girls like they were her own x

[@kathycorell2416]

Why don't we hear from Tessa's mother through out this whole trial? It's Peggy the great grandma that steps up and tries to help the kids out. Not the Grandmother. Where is Tessa's mom?

[@aussiemum8711]

would help it could hear questions being asked

[@cassandraking8361]

This lady is stuck on these one time hives

[@JoanOH]

Anyone else think witness Tiffany and Layla’s mom could be sisters? They look SO much alike!

[@CassandraJay]

47:57 FIVE vaccination shots in one visit?! That’s absurd.

[@1GreatPlan]

The judge had tears in his eyes during Tiffany

[@JustEmmy2]

I have just started getting into this. Does anyone know if the defense attorneys are paid or state appointed?

[@sher7251]

Paid. Google her and check out her web site. She takes on the evil in this world as long as they can pay her.

[@RobloxGamer12941]

@@sher7251 karma has a way of coming back for ya in the end though. She will have to answer for all she has done as well while defending these awful criminals. She's disgusting

[@alidadebruyn3560]

I think she is a paid defence as they got a doctor in which cost over $7k I’m not sure if state defence can do that.

[@RobloxGamer12941]

I think Ms mull was paid. Boy does she look like a mean witch. I feel bad for her family cuz she seems like an awfully nasty person and would be hard to deal with. But I hope I'm wrong for their sake

[@mythoughtsnotyours.8140]

This woman who took care of Laila for 9 months really care and loved her.😢Her tears are so heartfelt 😢It broke my heart to see how seeing injuries in this baby broke her ❤️. This is the only person I see REALLY LOVED HER.such a short life

[@christinanny]

Law & crime why are the trails not live streamed anymore?

[@ajax2543]

christina Nicole Some are. This one is.

[@harletterider9658]

they already happened..trials

[@dawnisles6363]

I'm curious about the woman with the mask , I'm assuming she's the courts record keeper? In UK we don't have that well at trials I have seen unsure if there used in crown court. That has 2 be a very difficult job in terms of complete concentration at all times .

[@anaanushi8795]

Omg I was just about to ask the same thing. What is that????

[@aussiegal107]

@@anaanushi8795 other method of court reporting is called voice writing. Voice-writing involves a court reporter speaking into a stenomask-a hand-held mask containing a microphone. The reporter repeats the testimony into the recorder.

[@anaanushi8795]

Just You wait and see Oh I see. Thank you for your reply 😊

[@RobloxGamer12941]

@@aussiegal107 I wonder how accurate it comes out. I'd think it would be pretty accurate since it's for transcribing court proceedings. To bad cell phones can't have the same good talk to text option like that.

[@HeyItsKayJayBae]

Regina treated the baby like my mom treated my dog when i went to prison. Gave her to a friend she worked with and funny they also worked at a hospital checking people in and out 🤯 but THAT WAS MY DOG no my daughter. It just strikes me odd that grandma wanted to pawn her off to a fellow employee like why tho !?

[@sarahholt5575]

She struggled with drugs too & did the right thing having someone who could care for the kids do it. Not the best thing but better than having them around drugs etc, and they would have kept them but DCF was intrusive etc yet NEVER checked in when the girls were with the beaterbaums

[@marshapieroni6677]

I don't know what kind of burdens her family had, but there was enough of them it seems they could have rallied together to keep those children. But like you said, they just pawned them off

[@grazielachristina1276]

Laila's (now Tess Jillyn) keeps having babies. The last one is boy called Matrixx.

[@grazielachristina1276]

Meanwhile Laila's mom (now Tess Jillyn) keeps having babies. The last one is boy called Matrixx.

[@RobloxGamer12941]

I hope they eventually fix the prosecutors microphone

[@Mamaichi86]

The defenses too.. by shutting it off. I can't stand this defense attorney

[@dawnmccarthy3000]

Yes can we then break the defense attorney’s mic? If I never heard that lady’s voice again it would be great. But I am sure she’d want to refresh my recollection anyways 😕

[@susannahdenhart4261]

What is that woman doing at the bottom of the screen with that thing on her mouth? Distracting

[@cheryls4753]

Susannah Denhart she’s dictating for court transcripts

[@cathym6726]

That's the court recorder.. She doesn't have to type every thing.

[@susannahdenhart4261]

Must be annoying having that to your mouth for hours

[@anaanushi8795]

Susannah Denhart 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Msrosy145]

Susannah Denhart it’s an antiquated way of dictating. 🤦🏽‍♀️ it’s not necessary to for it this way.

[@dorothybullock3534]

Put them in jail for good rosenbaum crime 👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👺👺👺👺👺👺👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎.

[@AllieBFromTN]

Who is Peggy? Sorry. Can’t keep up with everyone 🙈🙈

[@sandhyamandara4]

Peggy is Tessa's grandma...

[@Bronwyn0507]

The little girls great grandmother.

[@rosemarybryant3549]

So Grandma Gina's daughter Tessa was in Foster Care then Tessa's daughters are put in to Foster Care and they act like THEY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY for what happened to that sweet child! I'm so sick of irresponsible people who don't take care of the children they have but continue to "breed"! Do they not know about BIRTH CONTROL?

[@bobe3250]

Yes. BUT let's make sure we get all the murderers of children in prison and throw away the key. The issue here is a child's death not why they are here.

[@geraldinegaynor1360]

Legal enforced contraception is the answer. It is only temporary until the mother can get her act together. Yearly injections of Depo Provera, an IUD inserted into the womb or Implanon inserted under the skin and provides contraception for 5years. Do you have these in America ?

[@markaburns4436]

@@geraldinegaynor1360 I agree 100%!! And yes, we have all of those in America.

[@Mamaichi86]

The Dr continuing to stare at the photos in sick. Devistating

[@petalpinkton8682]

Paediatrician has a very monotonous voice Zzzzzzz

[@chelleglenney156]

Him holding the mic when he speaks was cute. Sweet old man.

[@cocochannel8932]

Low hemoglobin = easy bruising

[@karensimonds3213]

Brillant.

[@fiona9912]

I find it interesting that it doesn’t matter who or why a person is on the stand they look nervous.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

It's public speaking, a great fear for the majority of people.

[@RobloxGamer12941]

Likely because they are in front of a full courtroom of people and then it's broadcasted live and everyone knows that. I'd be hella nervous too. Heck yes. I hate public speaking