Old School Vs. New School: W204 C63 Or W205 C63S - Which One Should You Buy?

[@keezy077]

The W204 C63 is the perfect definition of what an AMG is. Love the video btw

[@RossReviewsau]

Cheers I can agree with that also

[@slimejordy3442]

Did you see what the new ceo said? He said people buy AMG for the tech! 😢 he’s lost all hope, we need to petition or something to bring the guy who knows we buy AMG for v8’s and up back!

[@keezy077]

@@slimejordy3442 Yeah I saw that. It’s a little upsetting that he thinks customers value tech over sheer performance. I agree to that petition brother

[@toyotawagons4584]

I am extremely fortunate to have owned both. I bought my w204 edition 507 C63 2 door coupe, brand new in 2014. After my partner falling pregnant in 2020, I went out & purchased a 2017 w205 C63 S which was supposed to replace the w204 507. A year later, I still had both. I came to the realisation that I’d be an absolute fool to sell the 507, so instead, I sold the w205 & bought my girlfriend a VW Golf to lug the kids around in. After running both w204 & w205 side by side for a year, I came to the conclusion that the build quality on the w204 is FAR superior & budget cuts on the w205 felt very apparent. The w205 definitely had a more superior chassis, yet the w204 felt far more of an event to drive with instant throttle response & a sound track to die for. In conclusion… I’ve decided that I’ll never sell my w204 edition 507. I’ll have other cars around it, but the w204 will remain with me until I depart this life.

[@maneckahmed9825]

Legend got the w204 100% stock no mods, pristine condition…. I just know what you mean. ❤

[@toyotawagons4584]

@@maneckahmed9825 congrats mate. You’ll absolutely love owning the w204 C63. Already such an iconic car🙌🏻

[@Top-Striker]

Hey man, I own a w204 c300, im looking to make the upgrade to the w204 c63 within the next two years im from Canada so the car market is a little crazy right now gotta wait for it to adjust. are there any major takeaways you could let me know about? my major concern is the gas and maintenance. If there's anything you could let me know id appreciate it. I'm only 20 years old but this is a dream car of mine and I work hard enough to deserve it I told myself within two years I will have one and I even made an autotrader post my wallpaper to remind me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnsmith-mk3zq]

Im in a dilema at moment Do i sell my w205 & look.for a w204 But those 507 are hard to find & prices creeping up

[@Undercover1987]

When your 507 is in pristine condition, you could get around 70+80k € here in Germany for it. A non performance 204 coupe is at around 40k in good condition.

[@runslaTe]

The 6.2 is raw...the sound is too good

[@RossReviewsau]

It’s so good eh

[@audriusbaranauskas6227]

You got me thinking...the 6.2 V8 just might be the best sounding V8 to ever come from Germany. Great video!

[@RossReviewsau]

I think it is

[@DarkSession6208]

@@RossReviewsau Because it is ... together with the MB 5.5 Biturbo and Audi 4.0L Biturbo (in the earlier RS6 and RS7) and 4.2 FSI in the RS5 and obviously the E92 M3. Jokes aside the M156 is the best sounding German V8 by FAR. The others i mentioned are just great on their own but the M156 is like the cherry on the top.

[@detailersworkshop]

@@DarkSession6208 I'd say the Audi Rs 4.2 is an amazing sounding motor, different than the m156. Hard to compare and this is coming from someone with a 507 sedan. I plan on grabbing an B7 Rs4 to keep the 507 company. The W205's never really interested me, just seemed to synthetic.

[@BigUriel]

The old supercharged M113 sounded glorious too.

[@drewlother9591]

No thinking about it…. It is, put the akrapovic exhaust and its magic

[@Elevate_G]

The engineers from AMG that designed the exhaust/ headers for the W204 C63 needs to be in the AMG Hall of Fame…! 🥇

[@GoogleAccount-pt4zu]

The W204 C63 AMG has always been my favourite AMG to date, sure the C63 S AMG with the bi-turbo 4.0L V8 is quicker and has slightly more power but nothing beats that raw 6.2L V8 sound, the looks of the car is aggressive and the sound it makes is absolutely euphoric, it truly is one of a kind, it was an absolute wild beast, people buy V8’s for the noise and boy did this thing deliver, it is the last of its nature, and seeing now that the current C63 S AMG uses a 2.0L turbo borrowed from the A45/CLA 45 S mixed with hybrid technology it has completely lost its soul and should never have been called a C63 as it tarnishes the name of the car, I don’t care how much faster it is, when a car loses its V8 and that orgasmic sound it loses its soul, it could be the fastest car on Earth for all I care but if it sounds like a Camry it’s total crap.

[@esthetics4512]

Agreed💯💯

[@C63Bez]

I had a w204 with headers and a tune and it was stupid fast. I can’t even imagine a supercharged version

[@thatcarpage707]

A V6 Camry sounds better 😂😭

[@thatcarpage707]

Really hope they bring the v8 back it’s needed

[@Birmingham_racing]

The 6.2 v8 will always be an all time favourite and will always be missed

[@RossReviewsau]

It’s a legend

[@PrimeKOS]

Also they hold their market value exceptionally well. In fact I would wager a guess in a couple years they will appreciate massively.

[@hellothere4342]

This was my take from owning both cars. The W204 wagon was 100% stock and I was so happy with how it sounded as is. When I picked up the W205 after first service it needed downpipes,full exhaust and tunes and then tractions became an issue. I'll be looking at the E63s next since the new C63s is a 4cyl and the E class gets murdered by depreciation hahahah.

[@RossReviewsau]

Agreed 👍

[@kers225abk2]

W204 every day of the week. That 6.2 monster will be one of the few euro cars that maintains its value 👌

[@RossReviewsau]

It’s a forever car

[@Beer_Dad1975]

I'm surprised how cheap they are - around $35,000 will get you a fairly low mileage example in NZ. I guess they are notoriously unreliable, and very expensive to maintain - so that'll be why they have depreciated so much.

[@jasonrabe1664]

Are you kidding me? They are still half of their original value at over 10 years old. And they are extremely reliable 2011 and up. Maintenance is key. There are many accounts of owners who have had no trouble whatsoever. I have a 2012 with 21,000 miles and have absolutely no issues so far

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@jasonrabe1664 Good that you have had a good experience, but these were way over a hundred grand in NZ when they came out, so more like 1/3rd or less of their original value - and they are notoriously unreliable like all of Mercedes during the last couple of decades have become - again not every car is going to have issues, and you can definitely mitigate those issues by looking after it properly - but they ain't no bulletproof Lexus, that's for sure. Still a hell of a lot of car/fun for the relatively reasonable price though.

[@jasonrabe1664]

I get what you're saying but I disagree on the Bulletproof portion. There are some bad Mercedes models chiefly the lower entry level and the junk made in alabama. Also the Daimler Chrysler merge was quite a disaster as well. I have a E550 which was after Chrysler was gone and after 11 years only have changed a light bulb and the starter after warranty was out. It has been reliable as a Camrys I've had in the past except with bad gas mileage.

[@petermanuel7128]

Great review of the C63’s, Ross. The W205 sure is the nicer car but I’d happily have either of them. What a great sound they both have. Sure beats a boring electric car any day. 0-100 was very impressive on both cars. Both are all round great looking cars. Very impressive. Thanks for the review.

[@RossReviewsau]

Totally agree & i was also impressed with both times!

[@H14RXV]

The w204 you’re driving has the performance pack which came with 480hp. You can tell this by the intake manifold which is a darker grey.. similar to the 507 and the bs. Red callipers.. although never a good way of checking as many people change the colour. And the half leather half alcantara steering wheel. The performance pack came with forged internals from the sls.

[@rkworth1]

i just picked up a c63 s (2023) - and love it. it is an all around beautiful car. it is a bit expensive, but im in my 50s, so i might as well treat myself before going down hill medically!

[@jayb8698]

I'm 50 in a few months...I'm gonna show your comment to my missus. Wish me luck 😂😂

[@statusquoreject]

I got my 2017 C63S at 40. Luckily I never married so I didn't have to ask anyone for permission to buy it. Prefer a headache from loud exhaust vs a headache from an exhausting wife 😂

[@andyp8464]

Having spent an extensive amount of time in many AMGs, the w205 c63s is without doubt the most fun amg I've ever driven

[@RossReviewsau]

Absolutely 💯

[@arcinvert]

Got my 507 Edition w204 coupe atm and love it to death. Was the same price at the time as a w205 pre facelift coupe. Drove the both for about a week and decided the w204 is a better car for me. Almost the same power but prefer the hydraulic steering of the 204, sound is way better.. even though the 205 isn't as bad ... and it looks just timeless. Best decision ive ever made. Sure you can get more power out of a 205 for cheap but all u could need on a 204 is headers and you can get it up to almost 600hp NA.. just perfect car in every aspect imho

[@C63Bez]

The 507 will also go up in value whereas the w205 will go down. I also really don’t like the pre facelift w205 interior

[@jamesatkinson7517]

I own a w205 c63s and I feel it is an absolute buzz even without the tune it is fast. My dad owned a w204 and it was awesome as well But the length of the power band on the twin turbo is mind blowing. Your comment I don’t want to get out of this car is how I feel every time I take it out. Great job man.

[@RossReviewsau]

Spot on the new one is so impressive.. and that says a lot since the old one was also so damn good

[@JazDanz]

I had a 2017 AMG c63s bought in 2020. A day after, Kobe passed. COVID lockdown happened. I sold it 1 year later. I literally repurchased a 2015 c63s Edition 1 with only 14K miles. I am on TOP of the world! Last of the V8's!

[@TRUdetailing]

I have the same exact spec W204 C63, I love it! One of the best cars all around IMO.

[@RossReviewsau]

Couldn't agree more!

[@hi-line8195]

solid review, I do agree the 205 has more advanced engineering etc.. but you just cant touch the intangibles of the "last of its kind" nature of the 204. Of course, the sound.. but also the sensation of the big coupe old school benz carved from a block of granite feel of the 204 is untouchable in my opinion

[@RossReviewsau]

Fair call glad you enjoyed the video

[@francisong5083]

You gotta love that C63 especially Edition 507, it is one of the best cars AMG has ever made. Super car performance and everyday practicality. Last of the 6.2 litre V8 Future classic. Too bad they are so rare.

[@RossReviewsau]

Couldn't agree more! Both amazing

[@jasonrabe1664]

Just a simple flash tune and some headers on the w204 and you've already exceeded the performance of the newer car. And the sound as well.

[@shushiy6303]

I pickup my w205 c63s sedan in two days. I was skeptical about spending more money than w204s but this video is giving my head a clear conscience. Can’t wait!

[@mikehagmaier3949]

Having fun with it no doubt!

[@wollt6417]

imo the 6.2V8 and the s65 are the best german engines ever

[@Adl_hillsrider]

C63s are one of the best sounding cars. Great review!

[@RossReviewsau]

Yes they are!

[@johnsmith-mk3zq]

The sound of the w204 is unmatched by any car. Amg did a hell of a job to make a turbo w205 sound the way it does but i advice anyone who has a w205 you must add aftermarket downpipes it transforms the sound much better. W204 def wins in exterior looks & sound W205 probally the better overall allround car.

[@RossReviewsau]

very fair! agree on this.. W205 is better but the W204 is brilliant especially the sound

[@johnsmith-mk3zq]

@@RossReviewsau i actually own a w205 & i keep asking myself everyday shall i trade it in for w204! (That sound) Im gonna keep watching this episode over & over until youve convinced me to keep mine 😁

[@Killswitch1991]

​@@johnsmith-mk3zqI have the 205 S coupe. I had the same thought, the 204 is a work of art with the big n/a engine but the 205 all round is just way way nicer car and nothing could logically say otherwise not even the claim that the 204 sounds much better because surprisingly it really doesn't despite the newer car being only a 4.0 litre, it's actually less raspy than the 6.2 n/a and maintains that deep AMG tone much like the 5.5 TT which in my opinion actually sounds nicer than all the engines. The 204 has character but it's engine and and gearbox can't hang with the modern turbo competition out there, it gets smoked. The M177 engine has a lot more to offer and is reliable up to 1000bhp, you can't knock it.

[@t8506]

@@Killswitch1991 That's your opinion and you're entitled to it but the vast majority of people think the M157 is the better sounding engine.

[@Killswitch1991]

@@t8506 m157 is the 5.5 TT. I did just say that's the best sounding......

[@dongaudiosi2878]

I’ve had the 2017 W205 sedan for 6 years now, just clicked 34k, stock as it sounds great and it’s a fast car. With 700nm of torque at around 1800 rpm, no traction to get a low 0-100 as you proved with the tuned one, more wheel spin. If it had all wheel drive it would be a 3.5 second car. Drive normally and you get around 10 litre/100km. It’s actually fairly cheap to run. Nothing to upgrade to, so I’ll be keeping it for sometime yet. Sure the new M3/M4 BMW’s are a great car if only they had the AMG soundtrack. 😊

[@Lxzandr]

What's the reliability like for w205 c63? Thinking of getting one for a weekend car. Cheers.

[@dongaudiosi2878]

@@Lxzandr hi, it’s been and still is a great car. Driven normally it’s fairly frugal on the petrol for the type of car approx 10litre/100km. No issues with the car, change the oil and filter every 12 months as I don’t do the kms. Only replaced the original tyres at around the 34000km mark, still original brakes and battery. Driven normally it idles along to speed as the power and torques requires very little peddle input or revs. Obviously buy one from a reputable person. You,lol be able to tell if the car has been abused. You can’t really thrash them unless it’s been tracked many many times by a professional driver. Mine been a great car and I’ll just keep it it, can’t part with it for anything else for the price.

[@Lxzandr]

@@dongaudiosi2878 Thats awesome mate! Definitely makes me want to get one now just hearing that. I was thinking of getting a evo 6 instead but I think I'd prefer the c63 as it's more family friendly and also more modern compared to the old 4g63t. Thanks for the reply mate much appreciated. Cheers.

[@mahmoudghoneim8004]

For the looks W204 wins hands down and will still look sharp after so many years.

[@RossReviewsau]

It’s a beautiful car.. I was supremely surprised by my honest reaction on actually picking the w205 if you have the money 😅

[@Killswitch1991]

​@@RossReviewsau I'm not surprised by your reaction. You didn't even review the 205 coupe, you would have loved it even more. 205 might be double the money but there's a reason (especially if you get the 205 S coupe) it's gorgeous compared to any 204 and built uniquely from its base model counterpart unlike the 204's that share so much with a C200 base model chassis car and that's why a 205 coupe costs so much more money. They are exclusively built from down up. 205 all round is a way way nicer car and nothing could logically say otherwise not even the claim that the 204 sounds much better because surprisingly it really doesn't despite the newer car being only a 4.0 litre, it's actually less raspy than the 6.2 n/a and maintains that deep AMG tone much like the 5.5 TT which actually sounds better than all of them. The 204 has character but it's engine and and gearbox doesn't hang with the modern turbo competition out there. I'm sure you must have noticed as well as having so much more torque that the gearbox is responding to your paddle shifts significantly quicker in the 205 as well. Things like this make or a break car when you're serious about performance and anyone that is will not choose the 204 over a 205 if they can afford it.

[@xmlisnotaprotocol]

don't forget the C63 M156 comes crippled from factory in the 451hp variant, tune opens the throttle all the way and you're at ~520hp...no AFR change ...no over rev ...safe mod to bring the engine up to its designed power

[@siytz.w]

super interesting, didn't know that.

[@xmlisnotaprotocol]

@@siytz.w and it's lighter than the E63,ML63 etc so better power to weight ratio once you tune

[@siytz.w]

@@xmlisnotaprotocol thats awesome. Makes me want to get one even more. Had my eye on the w204 since i first saw it in 2010. Getting closer to the possibility of owning one someday

[@victorarroyo5671]

I had a W204 and I updated with a W205. The worst decision I have ever made. The W205 is more luxury for sure but the W204 with that M156 V8 naturally aspirated engine makes it more reliable and with an amazing and better sound as well.

[@jockolacko8181]

Definitely not more reliable

[@jasonrabe1664]

Definitely more reliable no turbos.

[@greghughey9738]

I'll def keep my 205. Intakes, cat-less d.p, and a tune..the car is a f'n MONSTER. 204 has my respect, but 205 all day

[@mattp98z81]

Just bought a C63 W204, absolute madness of a car. Truely what the 63 stands for !

[@RossReviewsau]

GOOD BUY BRO!

[@mattp98z81]

@@RossReviewsau Yeah I‘m more than happy! btw, your videos are fire ! I subbed.

[@RossReviewsau]

appreciate you bro@@mattp98z81

[@keithyuen2005]

Can you compare between the E55 and the E63 (W212 facelift)? Both has a 5.5L V8 with different forms of forced injection. Would be fun to see how the power delivers.

[@slowestamg]

Wow, I can’t believe this has never occurred to me. I have a few AMG’s including the E55, however I never considered the fact that both share one very sexy trait; 5.5L V8’s with forced induction. The 5.5L Biturbo E63 is undoubtedly next on my list. Thank you for helping me with that perspective.

[@mikekn7033]

I traded in my Porsche 911 40th anniversary for a 2009 W204 and I absolutely love it . Still have it now and absolutely never had any problem with it. The acceleration and sound are incredible!

[@verde629]

As long as it’s not the 4 cylinder you’re winning anyways

[@RossReviewsau]

Amen brother

[@simonbanks3112]

My 204 is pretty much the twin to the one you test here, and no way would I trade to a 205 - the NA 6.2 is the brute, I much prefer the nature and the looks of it :)

[@RossReviewsau]

Fair enough! It’s hard to pick on any of these

[@Killswitch1991]

Fair play to you but I think for anyone if their money had no limit they'll pick the 205 but it's like double the money and I know for a lot of people that's just breaking the bank so they'll say anything to justify having the older car but that's not to knock the 204 because it's a work of art but the 205 all round is way way nicer car and nothing could logically say otherwise not even the claim that the 204 sounds much better because surprisingly it really doesn't despite the newer car being only a 4.0 litre, it's actually less raspy than the 6.2 n/a and maintains that deep AMG tone much like the 5.5 TT which actually sounds better than all of them. The 204 has character but it's engine and and gearbox can't hang with the modern turbo competition out there, it gets smoked.

[@t8506]

@@Killswitch1991 If money was no limit they'd pick the E63 which offers everything the 4.0 C63 offers and more. The price difference between the 204 and 205 is negligible and becomes even more so when you consider the running costs of the M156 so your argument that people choose the C63 because it's cheaper is laughable

[@Killswitch1991]

@@t8506 meh the e63 is nice but it looks a bit boring and understated, it's not to everyones taste and not everyone wants AWD. They also don't sound as nice due to a different manifold design although they perform great having bigger twin scroll turbo's as standard. The 205 c63s coupe looks far more aggressive and something special compared to any other c63 made, completely new chassis and body panels compared to a base model C class they're even longer and wider in chassis length and run monster wide fitment wheels (up to 325 tyre width rears will fit with rolled/flared arches as standard on both front and back which no 204 got and neither did the 205 saloon or wagon). None of the other cars were built anywhere near as exclusively as the c205 63. It's only the 205 coupe that they built very different in the c63 lineup, it's just something else separating it even further than it's base model counterpart than any of the other cars. This is why c63s coupe's held their value so high even after all these years. My c63s coupe set me back £50k used but I could still pick up a decent 204 right now for £20k.... I'd argue that's a hell of a lot of difference in price. You can pick up a cheaper 205 for around £30k but it will be a non-S and not likely a coupe and half the time will also be a car that is accident recorded and repaired or high mileage and not in the best of condition. Trying to pretend like a 204 will end up setting you back the cost of a nice c63s just isn't true. Can pick up 204's as cheap as £15k now with still a clean title although maybe higher miles due to age. The only 204's that are still expensive are 507's but 20-25k will land you a very nice 204 in today's market.

[@t8506]

@@Killswitch1991 E63s has a RWD mode so that point is moot. W204 for 15k? Hahaha jog on.

[@Enigma6954]

Great review Ross. I have my w204 for 12 years and put 170K KM's on it and I have thought about the w205 a few times and you are right the interior and luxury is next level after the W204 BUT TBH I think there is too many think that can go wrong/break with the W205. I have had mine tuned and headers done + K&N air filters at about 100K KM's and its putting down about 600 break at the crank so sounds and performance is great... just cant see a reason to upgrade. And yes as you mentioned it can scare you which is why i still love to drive it! 🙂

[@slowestamg]

As a 2012 C204 C63 and 2017 C205 C63s owner, I daily my dp/intake/tune 205 but my 204 with ROW airbox/LTH/catless and res delete + ECU/Trans tune is the fun, fast weekend freak. It’s only 2, almost 3 tenths faster from 60-130 than the 205 but BOY is the overall experience so much more visceral, imo.

[@Sideways_Singh]

That M156 6.2L W204 is the best sound ever produced.

[@CarlizWang]

I've been dailying my S205 C63s wagon for 3 years, almost 40,000 km later it still puts a smile on my face whenever I fire up the engine. The fun aspect of 205 generation AMG cars is sure second to none. The car looks good and expensive both inside and out. Tech still feels modern while maintaining physical buttons for the most used features, unlike newer cars today where you have to do everything on a screen. The engine is just a beast, sounds awesome and packs a big punch. The car isn't perfect, though. It might look expensive, the interior squeaks alot on bumpy roads. Tire noise is quite loud, can be tiresome on long journeys. Manual downshifts are a bit slow. The LSD and transmission can be jerky at times. Suspension is way too harsh even in comfort mode for normal use. All in all, it's a great car with minor faults.

[@RossReviewsau]

thanks for the feed back.. def not perfect but its one hell of a car

[@mohammedfareed9581]

Nailed this review right on the head. I picked up my 2019 c63s sedan about a month ago and I don’t think you can buy a better car for the money. Even compared to the w204 just like you said, it’s just better in every way except maybe sound 😂

[@RossReviewsau]

everything except maybe sound but it still sounds bloody awesome! aha very good buy man

[@Lxzandr]

Hey mate just how's the c63 going? I'm deciding between a w205 c63 amg or a evo 6. Cheers.

[@JermaJoestar]

dont get an evo 6 mate get the 6c @@Lxzandr

[@mohammedfareed9581]

@@LxzandrSorry for the late response but it’s awesome, it does everything and is a blast to drive. Very different from an evo I would drive both and see which one I like more if I were you

[@MitchZero9]

Not a Merc or a big Euro guy, but W204 is definitely cooler with that 6.2. But bugger them both. Older Merc's ooze class and charm that modern that W204 or W205 aren't even in the same postcode. I'd rather have the older 5.5L in a E55 AMG. And they are just more subtle and suave.

[@Portland2055]

W205 i everything what the 04 people wanted just to hear what the motor would sound like with some boost! They made some supercharger kit for em tho so its nots hard to boost but for the newer one dreams and prayer was answered a boosted one from factory cant beat that both are phenomenal machines! That will stand for many many years to come! #nodebate the newwer model is very as costly as the older one so which ever you get it will be the same power speed and one more fancy but they both mop.the floor on the road iykyk!😅 🇯🇲 i will get the newer one because of bolts on an easier power making option etc!! Changes some factory parts and you already unleash 100hp and 100ft lb of torque without a tune imagine what a tune is gonna do!!

[@JustinSmithPYRO]

Love my 14 C63, bought it 5 year's ago with 50k in it, it now has 120k on it. Way too fun to drive. Take it everywhere. But that c63s is pretty impressive as well, just not a fan of the 4.0 twin turbo. I'd rather have the 6.2 N\A motor. But love the video 🤘🤘 thank you for the comparison, think I definitely made the right choice for me.

[@Top-Striker]

20 years old here, currently own the w204 c300 looking to make the upgrade to the w204 c63 within the next 2 years. hopefully, the prices drop a little the market is crazy right now here in Canada. my only main issue is gas and maintenance, if anyone owns/owned the w204 c63 i'd appreciate some pointers and honest opinions on how the maintenance and gas is. I am only 20 years old but this is my dream car and I work long and hard so I do believe i deserve it.

[@ExplorerMedia]

Maintenance and gas are expensive. But that’s exactly why you buy this car. I own a coupé 👌

[@97Ant]

Cant wait to get my w205 and upgrade the turbos + a stage 2 tune. I loved the W204 as well.

[@mvnorsel6354]

I reckon sports cars look good in white, not once did Mr Ross mention Commodore. What willpower😅.

[@RossReviewsau]

I can’t believe I didn’t mention a falcon or commo either 🤣🇦🇺

[@bryanmasis1595]

Yes the w204 is a little dated now, but simply get it up to date and it’s the perfect mix between RAW car and classy AMG goodness. Add apple CarPlay, maybe interior ambient lighting, update the steering wheel and hey, it’s perfect

[@anzeticus]

I absolutely love my w205 c63s but the sound of the w204 is just so amazing 💥💥💥

[@RossReviewsau]

they are so damn good

[@chrisflorian4308]

Thanks for the review, Ross. Much support from Germany. The upcoming AMG C63 (4-cylinder-turbo + electric motor) is in my opinion a shame compared to these two "old" AMG C63's. In my mind an AMG C 63 needs a V8 under the bonet. NO V8 = no AMG C63. The upcoming C63 has soundspeakers :( and the car is really heavy :( Best regards Chris

[@RossReviewsau]

completely agree with you! its a crying shame the V8 is gone from almost all new cars :(

[@bosspickleschannel9102]

Being an owner of both these cars currently the video is rocking Thank you....btw I'm new to the channel

[@RossReviewsau]

Welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@D0NNYAU]

I’ve got the 205 with stage 2 tune and have had it for about a year and still not needing to increase the power. It’s perfect at that 500-530rwhp. Sounds amazing too.. sometimes I wish it didn’t crackle and pop as much

[@Lxzandr]

What's the reliability like for the w205 c63 amg? I'm thinking of getting one or a evo 6 cheers.

[@D0NNYAU]

@@Lxzandr havent had issues besides your regular tyres, brakes and pads that are coming up

[@Lxzandr]

@@D0NNYAU Cheer for the reply bro. I'm leaning more towards the c63 being more modern than the evo 6. Thanks bro much appreciated.

[@D0NNYAU]

@@Lxzandr I might be selling in future

[@Lxzandr]

@@D0NNYAU Whats your next car?

[@lewisldn88]

Stopped watching when the W204 part finished 🥲. I’ve just bought one. ☺️

[@RossReviewsau]

The w205 is worth a watch

[@martynasjanusauskas1231]

I am fortunate to own 205 c63... Its the car i can't imagine to replace with anything else atm. 204 is nice as well,but 205 is brutal too,and sounds great too with downpipes

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

A great fair and balanced comparison review of these desirable cars Jono. I'm picking what you are putting down in regards to if you have the means, most definitely get the 205. The 204 is dated as you say, but would still be a hoot to drive, especially if tuned also...

[@RossReviewsau]

Well said! Both can’t go wrong

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

Go the Leafs...🤪

[@sean.d7171]

I had 204 63 was always driving with the windows down even in the rain 😂. The Sound of hell

[@markblackwell7927]

Definitely one of the reasons I love watching these reviews is the variety of cars....great job Johnny....keep pushing forward...

[@Shaun-7799]

I just bought mine (w204) and watching this video makes me tear up only imagining all I’m gonna do with this car

[@RossReviewsau]

They are so damn good

[@luishenriquez9823]

Headers

[@hr5935]

Great video, want a W204 C63 in the future for sure 😊

[@RossReviewsau]

You and me both!

[@jhalbum]

great review Ross, the W204 you have looks like a performance pack which has I think 358KW, a little more grunt than the entry level. Def love the w204

[@RossReviewsau]

Thanks for that spot! I’m never to sure so I just quoted standard numbers.. thanks for the info

[@dstewusa7054]

I got a single owner 50,000 mile W204 507 Edition with LSD There are very few sports coupes ageing better right now Long love the M156!

[@RossReviewsau]

That’s the best W507s are just that much better than the standard 204 👏

[@pete508]

Both excellent cars man but if I had the ca$h I'd choose the newer model the 205 for sure,but the 204 does sound hectic brah lol,another top review as usual cheers legend.

[@RossReviewsau]

spot on bro

[@Lawdweezy]

W204 is the best Mercedes has produced. Im gonna buy 2 just for the level. Simply the best

[@RossReviewsau]

Can’t argue with you.. I know your reasons

[@Maverick08154711]

Hey Bro, nice comparison and nice video. I'm lucky to own both of them and I love both and can't say which one I love more. Their both very special in their own way. I would say the 205 more power in all rpms and more precise handling, the 204 gives me definitely more emotions. Instead of buying an newer w205 C63 better go for an older one with lower price and get an w204 as well. I highly recommend that. 🤗💯

[@jamienat.1943]

Lucky to have the M156 in factory 368KW version in my S class... actually a really smooth engine. Loved the video!

[@RossReviewsau]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@librajinx84]

Not many V8s can hold a candle to the sound of the M156 with an IPE...if any.

[@Killswitch1991]

I might be bias coz I have the 205 but I actually prefer the sound of the 4.0 TT because the 6.2 n/a gets a bit too raspy for my liking at higher rpm and the 205 is a bit more deep toned because of the turbos + crackles on shifts are much more exciting with the turbo car and let's face it it's just significantly faster than the 204 can ever hope to be and has a faster shifting 7 speed than the 204's slow clunky less responsive one.....then there comes the interior......world's more aesthetic and pleasant to be in than the old gen. Exterior looks are subjective but the 205 coupe in my opinion looks much nicer the 204. I'm not a big fan of the 205 saloon, the coupe is much nicer. But on the 204 the saloon is actually nicer looking.

[@RossReviewsau]

the 205 is not as DEEP.. but it still sounds amazing. again both cars are terrific just depends on budget

[@ariongashi9024]

I dont understand how you can buy an m3/m4 or an rs over an amg, the crazy sound is just something else

[@CustomcrowdMitroc]

the oldschool c63 was the peak of merdaces. it was the best saloon they ever made

[@megatimstar]

Having driven both and owning the 204, the 205 is just more fun at speed. The power delivery because of the turbos is so much more exciting. But if you’re just driving around the city the old one is more fun because it simply sounds better. But for driving fast the 205 is simply a more exiting car. Completely agree with your closing statement about can’t go wrong, you cannot be anything but happy with either. Bang for buck the 204 provides everything you’d want, but the 205 is just more

[@RossReviewsau]

Absolutely spot on thanks for your comment

[@Columbo777]

Have to disagree. The w205 is a poor car. The build quality also is several levels below the w204…

[@johnsmith-mk3zq]

@@Columbo777 Build quality?? W205 interior is ten times better & doesnt creek like the w204. The only area 204 is better is the engine sound & exterior looks thats about it.

[@Columbo777]

@@johnsmith-mk3zq respectfully disagree. The w205 is cheap feeling. The materials used are sub par. Swathes of piano black plastic everywhere not to mention that awful iPad stuck to the screen.

[@TheCluelessEnthusiast]

Would love to put the 6.2 engine in my w124. Sounds soooo good

[@RossReviewsau]

Goals

[@OfficialCandor]

I want the 2015 W204 coupe so bad

[@icantthnkof1]

If I'm correct, the model you're driving looks like it has the P31 option. Forged internals bringing it to 481 hp. Then there's the 507 trim, bringing it too.. yep, you guessed it - 507 hp

[@lookatcha]

I own a 507 c63 w204. I don’t think I’ll ever sell it. There is something schizophrenic about driving it which cannot be replicated. There is something unhinged about that car

[@RossReviewsau]

I’ve also reviewed a 507 and they are brilliant! Definitely a forever car

[@paulnicholas8028]

Love this review!! The fact the 204 was your all time fave but that moment your facial expression changes and the 205 takes your soul…made me reach for the 205. Pick it up in a few days. Can’t sleep at night 😆 ❤

[@RossReviewsau]

Yes! Thank you! I really was rooting for the 204 but man that 205 just felt so good

[@paulnicholas8028]

@@RossReviewsau And it did not disappoint…the car is a BEAST (in sheep’s clothing.) The full range of emotions-excitement, fear, awe. My wife keeps asking with all those pops and bangs shouldn’t we get it looked at while it’s under warranty…cheeks still hurting 😃 😃 😃

[@paulnicholas8028]

Mate, wanna sleep in this thing. Old school muscle with all the modern luxuries, at half the price of new. Perfection ❤

[@paulnicholas8028]

Wanted to share with you I probably watch this review once a week. That blend of 2 amazing cars and you at the top of your game…thanks mate for leading me to my perfect daily, the w205 c63 amg s ❤❤❤

[@Killswitch1991]

​@@paulnicholas8028 I have both stage 2 204 and stage 2 205, epic cars but after 3 years of having the 205 I'm deciding to sell it and just keep the 204 even though my 205 is easily faster. Something about the 204 is just savage as hell especially with the long tube headers I have on it, the downshifts crack like a thunderous whip, a nature of sound that just doesn't happen with the 205 near as much even though my 205 sounds awesome, the 204 is just an absolute terrorist that can never be forgotten. Also the 204 is just more comfortable and less crashy, the bucket seats in my 205 destroyed my lower back :( I love both cars in different ways but for the money the 204 I actually regret to say wins ......I never thought I'd say it either. Also even though the 204 is slower, you still feel fast in it as long as you redline it , it feels like it's charged even though its n/a and it's all because of that massive 6.2 displacement.......you don't miss the turbo's when you're in it. If money isn't a problem I'd recommend anyone to own both cars at the same time.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

I own a w205 c63s, also own a m156 and an e63 m157 stage 2 dp, intakes and I would say that the m177 engine in the c63s is a character of it’s own compared to the m156 and m157. I wouldn’t say good or bad but it seem like AMG got it right with the m177. M177 M156 M157 that’s the order from best to least imo but for some reason I drive my m157 the most.

[@jaddenmp]

Own two 6.2 C63 and a Cls63 but I want something newer. I need to get my hands on the c63s to test drive

[@RossReviewsau]

C63S w205 is epic brother you will love it

[@coreypatterson1386]

You can buy mine!

[@The_Konstrukt]

W204 is the icon …. Really simple as that

[@RossReviewsau]

Both are an icon I would say.. but like I said can’t go wrong

[@The_Konstrukt]

@@RossReviewsau only one of them matches the name.

[@stevep4236]

Id take the W204 engine...but Id take yhe W205 interior

[@RossReviewsau]

Fax

[@Cmentarek]

c63 w204 top 5 best sounding v8's of all time

[@RossReviewsau]

It’s beautiful

[@RICHYSUNCLE]

0:25 exactly what I want

[@RossReviewsau]

😮‍💨🫶

[@ramboormark]

Just got myself a w204 c63. Previously had a F80 M3, Cayman GTS, M235i. Naturally aspirated is always the way to go for fun, sense of occasion, noise. Turbo works if you actually want to set lap times. Forced induction isn’t that fun because you need WOT to enjoy it and inevitably with today’s cars you end up doing silly speeds with tonnes of wheelspin from torque spikes. Essentially it’s for dick measurers. Even half throttle in NA just rolling through turns at 3-4k rpm is dreamy. It’s about enjoyment not 0-60 off the lights and even with forced induction you’ll lose to Karen in a Tesla, so what’s the point? The f80 m3 and m235i throttle pedals weren’t fun pedals, they were fear pedals. The c63 and cayman GTS are pure enjoyment. Always excited for the next time I drive them. Never got that with the newer M3.

[@kevinsummersford4112]

Got to love an AMG V8 love them

[@RossReviewsau]

Amen

[@dspada67]

Love it bro, awesome work Johnny. The big question, are any of these more rewarding than the Rs5 you did , you loved that one.

[@RossReviewsau]

the RS5 is great but i would take the C63

[@cccboarding]

I have a w205 by far my fav car I've owned

[@RossReviewsau]

They are great

[@skydanceritmo8970]

w205 its great when you tune it 〜 but if its stock ME w204 all the way 〜 great cars🔥🔥😎

[@RossReviewsau]

True that! Both amazing

[@jpxmodz]

Great review! Love my 507 Monster...

[@RossReviewsau]

Good choice! The 507 is so special

[@TinShed]

Can't beat precision engineering.. Only wish lct would piss off so I could afford one 😂

[@RossReviewsau]

Ikr 😅

[@richardnye9533]

Sick review and audio! Can you do a CLK63?!

[@RossReviewsau]

🤌🤌🤌

[@mariusmabusel5452]

I love my w204 coupe wouldn’t ever sell that thing absolute dream car

[@RossReviewsau]

Awesome cars

[@albertthescientist7450]

W205 v8 twin turbo AMG all day baby ❤🔥

[@RossReviewsau]

💪

[@fransiscoh9450]

If we’re talking 205 I think I prefer the cls63 the only thing that holds me Back a bit from the 204 is that the interior is getting pretty dated or I would get it in a heart beat💔

[@RossReviewsau]

If you get the 507 edition they have a much better interior but yes still slowly dating

[@EEscapeTheMatrix]

W204 FTW!

[@RossReviewsau]

Can’t go wrong

[@jerrymamabolo5746]

The 4.0 V8 exhaust sounds good with after market exhaust 😅 but I will take the 6.3 any day

[@johnsmith-mk3zq]

After market Downpipes transforms the sound on w205. i bet the one on this review has had em changed. The W204 interior is now dated & u have you really high rev it to get the thunderous sound fuel will go faster than a stabbed rat!

[@RossReviewsau]

again cant go wrong here

[@CargiantwaAu]

Both of these are excellent

[@RossReviewsau]

Absolutely

[@tokyohunter1119]

Man my dream car is still tad bit expensive compared to an M3/M4 even as a 2nd hand

[@anonamoose1891]

I own a tuned w204 p31 c63 coupe it’s a fanatical car nothing like it

[@Foodie_King.]

Both of these are something to get for your collection ❤

[@RossReviewsau]

Would love that!!

[@mattwestbury9240]

Been eyeing off the 2020 models as they have an even more updated interior including the newer merc steering wheel with updated controls but wouldn't mind having a 204 beforehand just to experience it, both are fantastic cars How much did owner of the 205 spend on the tune and such?

[@mohammedfareed9581]

I have a 2019 which is first year for the facelift. It’s so worth it man go for it

[@RossReviewsau]

the new ones are amazing man.. but the older ones are very nice too.. (if you plan to drive a lot id opt for the newer one) if its only for weekends the older one.. im not sure on the price of the tune and exhaust

[@coreypatterson1386]

You can buy mine...its a 2021 which is tuned from renntech

[@goran2009]

Owning 2013 M6, to who ever plans to buy German V8, you better have 50k in your savings just in case. If not I would stick to Commodore SS :)

[@RossReviewsau]

gotta pay to play with these no doubt

[@ze3953]

Both are MUCH better than W206

[@RossReviewsau]

AMEN!

[@jethrox827]

Great reviews 👍

[@RossReviewsau]

Thanks! 👍