‪@Rotogripownit‬

[@TraumaER]

This is a cool way to review balls. Two different bowlers and real time unedited content. 👍

[@800series]

This is a great way to review balls. Two pros bowling a match on tough conditions!! Keep up the good work! I appreciate it!!!

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lastnamebacknumber1487]

I know this for a long time but Beef Stu always throw the ball like a gentleman

[@remington1439]

This was amazing’ especially the comments from the 2 pros, it made it for me to understand a lot more of the ball and the pin. Thank you guys

[@Liluzibertgg]

Chris Barnes release is pure art in motion.

[@bowlingdj300]

True story, I try to get my hand there and turn it early all the time, lol

[@dijigo1587]

The commentary was absolutely essential for a proper understanding of this review. Really great stuff gents. Wish you guys would talk/step through all your reviews in this fashion. Not sure if you realise just how much value this in depth commentary and analysis adds to the learning for people like myself. (so many videos on YT that teach the viewer nothing)

[@BeefandBarnzy]

We are trying to come up with new and fun ways to help and inform the viewers. Just a little challenging to get as much content out as we would like, living in different cities

[@machinethesun9243]

Agree, it's like a class in that my brain is working through everything they say as I try to work it out.

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

I got my Idol Helios, today and I can't wait to try it out.

[@machinethesun9243]

Great video, the commentary was very helpful. I got this ball for christmas, I hope I like it as much as the OG, my all time favorite ball.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

I hope so too, thinking it will be more of a compliment rather than straight replacement for the original

[@fafafooey4126]

First want to say love the channel. I am finally coming back to bowling after not competing in 9~ years. From the age of 10-17 bowling was my life and passion. I was around a 205 average before quiting. Anyways, i used to use a storm virtual gravity and a rotogrip defiant. I am not sure you are not familiar with these balls much, but would love if you could check them out and see if anything currently that would be similar? From looking around the phaze 2, idol helios, and zen soul seem to be good options. The defiants stats were RG 2.49 Differential 0.054 Mass Bias Diff 0.017

[@bowlingdj300]

I think you two would make an awesome doubles team, Chris would kill the fresh and Stu would crush the burn, great video guys, thx for sharing, Cheers!

[@BeefandBarnzy]

We have a doubles event coming up at the end of December, let’s see how that one goes! 😉

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Dropping pearls of wisdom 5:45

[@DrCaptainMorgan]

Barnzy’s voice is in my right ear and Beefy’s in my left. Audio dub.

[@robbignell1629]

Good to Watch! Great Skills

[@ricklabreche7893]

Question for the beef you said you would possible drill ball with a stronger pin are you talking moving the pin at top to different location or turning the bottom locator pin out further what would this do to the reaction

[@BeefandBarnzy]

The current one I have is 5.5*5*3.5. Im probably going to drill 5.25*5*2. Go with a slightly stronger pin to pap, and a short pin buffer. This will increase the flare and make the ball stand up a bit harder

[@BillyDaGoat1017]

So you don’t want to get it out there too much into the dry just on the edge of the oil and edge of the dry?

[@CharlieH65]

You guys sound great, most of the time, plus all kinds of useful info. One question, How are the pinsetters coming through so loud being 75+ feet away? Keep up the great content!!

[@BeefandBarnzy]

The bar area has a really bad echo. It’s always super loud in there. We also had new mics, so there is definitely a teething period trying to figure out best settings

[@jordanmatsunaka2018]

Have you guys tried the idol Helios polished? Is it like the original idol and is more angular?

[@BeefandBarnzy]

it does become more angular, but not as strong as original idol. I did prefer it polished over dull though

[@jordanmatsunaka2018]

@@BeefandBarnzy thank you!

[@CharlieH65]

These guys are trained professionals on a wide open course. DO try this at home!

[@tannerritenour7839]

Question for you guys I know this isn’t the right video but are the x-2 and the altered reality to close together to have in the same bag?

[@BeefandBarnzy]

The altered is much stronger than X2 for me. There would be a pretty decent sized gap between those 2

[@deanainsworth1755]

Guys check your audio equipment seems to be cutting out a bit

[@chrisberdis6228]

Thank U fellas...

[@j23p24]

Thx guys good stuff

[@j23p24]

Barnzys mic is a little soft tho it seems

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Will work on it for the next time we film video!

[@thebowlingperson4400]

What’s the box finish?

[@BeefandBarnzy]

2000

[@CJthehobbyist]

I ordered this ball, and hoping I love it.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

I’m hoping you do too!!! Think there is a good chance 😉

[@CJthehobbyist]

@@BeefandBarnzy I don't know if this was Chris or Stu responding. When Global was acquired by Storm Roto, I was always super curious how he decided which balls to drill since it opened up a ton of options to select from.

[@pablolacruz2652]

What does it mean by keeping the ball in front of you?

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Playing straight angles, especially through the front part of the lane.

[@CharlieH65]

Definitely NOT standing at the left gutter sending it towards the 10pin before it hooks back.

[@pablolacruz2652]

@@BeefandBarnzy Thanks B & B.

[@joshg218]

Stu never found his spot. I like this ball from what I've been seeing.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Yeh, this was definitely Barnzy time to shine!

[@joshg218]

@@BeefandBarnzyjust watched you guys abuse poor Packy... 🤣

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Is PSB noisy as it seems?

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Really loud in the bar area, also need to tune the new mics better. Still learning some of this stuff

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

@@BeefandBarnzy LOL it’s a process my friend. Great video BTW. Really good insight into how you 2 think about ball reaction

[@mikecurtis3694]

Why does Roto Grip say the Helios is stronger the the original Idol and Stu says it's weaker, Who are you suppose to believe. Roto Grip say's Helios is Idol on steroids.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

I haven’t seen that, I’m only talking about what I see. Idol Helios is cleaner (therefore in my eyes weaker) but more angular downlane.

[@mikecurtis3694]

look in the bowling journal for November and you will see that

[@paulc6597]

Chrises mic isn't working.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

It is strange. So people have issues hearing and other don’t. I’m not really sure why, I heard it fine during the edit

[@newsense6608]

​@@BeefandBarnzy Sounds like Chris is only coming out my right audio channel.. Stu sounds like your dominant on the left channel.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Would make sense as we have a mic each.

[@newsense6608]

Make sure you have both ear buds in when watching for the full experience! :) Great video btw!

[@paulc6597]

@@newsense6608 ah i was only listening with the left ear only and the wife nagging me on the right lol.

[@mikecurtis3694]

Stu the old guy kicked your ass. maybe because he's in better shape!

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Interesting that did effect me winning with the altered reality! 😉

[@brycekline5282]

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@queenbee5175]

Good video but sound is horrible.

[@BeefandBarnzy]

Still working out the kinks!

[@aydenreynolds9168]

Wasssup

[@Deadflush]

Audio is fucking awful

[@Emolga6274]

How’s Lynda doing , she’s a beauty