Is it time to SCRAP the PGA Championship? | Rough Cut Golf Podcast 075

In this episode of The Rough Cut Golf Podcast the team are back to discuss the 2nd major of the year, The PGA Championship. Questions are asked about the identity of this major and if it should go back to match play? The crazy story of Scottie Scheffler going to jail and Bryson DeChambeau doing it for the fans!
0:00 Intro
2:43 Videos coming out on the channel this week
3:00 PGA Championship review...
4:00 Was it a good Major event?
8:25 Would the PGA Championship benefit from going to match play ?
11:26 Does Peter Finch like Xander Schauffele
14:10 Scottie Scheffler going to jail!
21:00 Rory Mcilroy misses out again!
24:35 Bryson DeChambeau the star man!
29:00 Valhalla worst major venue?
37:30 Justin Rose out of no where!
41:09 How did we get on with our major picks?
47:03 Pete’s and Kieran season long bet
51:03 Nelly Korda and Harry Higgs masteclass!
52:05 Guess the player
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[@NextFairwayNorm]

Love the PGA , score doesn’t matter. A putt to win on the last is what we want and got. Xander was a deserving winner. I do like the match play idea

[@VonHanzee]

PGA sycophants are the most insufferable sports fans there are.

[@garydavis8213]

This is the first PGA Championship I can remember that actually enjoyed. It’s been 4th on the list forever. This year’s tournament was already better than the Masters. We shall see how it stacks up against the Open and the US Open this year.

[@upyasun_dress8474]

To me, the PGA champ. should be golf’s other international major. If they want to “grow the game” use this as an opportunity to showcase all the unbelievable courses around the world, not just USA and UK. It would also give the tournament some “identity” for fans to attach to

[@matthewhargett9317]

This was the most exciting major we have seen in a while

[@calross7143]

Scottie, Rory, and Brooks were the 3 golfers tipped by almost everyone to win...and all 3 played themselves out of contention on Saturday.

[@Daniel189HLL]

Good, they're three of the biggest tossers on the tour.

[@nickupjohn8586]

Love it ! How is it possible that you guys just get better and better , brilliant dynamic between you all .

[@sylvandude1]

I normally dislike a long podcast but honestly I loved the opinions, the banter, keeping the topics changing, held my interest the whole time. I was cheering for Bryson, but I am glad Xander is a good guy who won

[@prestonk827]

Good stuff! When Kieran speaks it always catches my ear and I listen because he doesn’t dominate as much. Keep up the good work👍🏼

[@lifebymickw]

Found Kieran’s burner account.

[@scottmcdonald9924]

I know you mention bryson 3d irons, well cobra has come out with a set for you to try Pete! Cobra is only sending out the 7iron (31°) but it would be cool for you to try and give your opinion. The irons are supposed to be players irons smaller then there tour but forgiving like a high handicap iron. You can review them on your other channel! Great stuff and always great hearing you and the guys opinions.

[@Tppywater]

For my European friends: some rather speculative, but reasonable given how things work here in the USA, musings about the ridiculous Fri. morning Scheffler was subjected to... 1. That cop knew quite well who he was harassing; perhaps not Scottie per se, but they were clearly marked courtesy cars. 2. Once he realized he was dealing with a 'big fish,' the aging detective formed a plan and spring into action. Proceeds to turn off body cam... 3. As is LPD common practice (esp. with folks of color), began screaming contradictory and unreasonable commands through closed windows. 4. Feigned 'attaching himself to vehicle' (rather ridiculous move that goes against reason and training) 5. Feigns falling down ('flopped' in NBA parlance). Soils himself...hence, the '$80 pants damaged beyond repair'...vaguely documenting the 'poopy pants payout multiplier' which is common among American insurance procedures and civil penalties 6. Arrests SS forcefully, handing him over to colleagues and demands an ambulance and trip to ER 7. Speed-dials police union attache and legal council who"ll help him get administrative timeoff (with pay) and next steps with his big payout, civil trial, and early retirement. We are a litigious society...and this includes the 'few bad apples' that exist among those upholding thr thin blue line. Watch how this plays out: I'm confident events to come will prove me right. And though he probably won't, Scottie should file a civil case against this Barney Fife idiot. Once Sat. rolled around and he'd gone through the adrenaline dump, this overzealous idiot cost him millions.

[@thewaygokid3135]

The next major to add or replace one of existing majors would be held at St. Andrews every year (like the Masters). That would be epic!

[@George-li7wy]

I called Stewart cink on the second one just purely random 🤣

[@DN4AGDX]

What! This was one of the best in years. What makes them boring is when one player is so far ahead of everyone else we can guess the outcome. Xander, Bryson and Victor put on a great show. If Rory would have won by 10 shots you guys would be like this was the best tournament ever!

[@Sam-dl7uq]

Big up Guatemala 🙌

[@josephfreeman5614]

I know it's hard for courses to defend against these guys nowadays with how good they are, but I think a winner being double figures under par should be a big achievement in a major. Majors should be a test to truly see who is the best golfer. We see golfers go super low week in week out on tour, there aren't enough tournaments where pros have to really grind it out to be under par. That's what i think the majors should be. Also, have a touring major. 3 US majors is too many.

[@Tee-Bot2000]

One of the most exciting major/tournament in YEARS. Yeah let’s get rid of it?

[@markmcbride22]

It was a Sunday shoot out. Best final day in a major with the winner needing a birdie to clinch it. I’m happy enough with the invites until ogwr gets scrapped cause it’s a joke at the moment. Sometimes I think you Mick just hates good golfers.

[@joshramirez7]

LPGAs most recent match play tournament was stroke play and match play on the weekend after the cut. I think this could be a potential future for match play that keeps broadcasting and sponsorships happy, as well as give us the match play we want to see.

[@obijuanperoni]

Pete no longer looks like Rick's dad without his beard 😂

[@bradwalker2287]

Nice Pinehurst lid!

[@dougie6897]

Scrap it , are you mad? Now they’re including so many LIV players it’s the best Major we’ve had in ages!

[@gerrys1]

#FreeScottie

[@Daniel189HLL]

There was a stableford tournament on the USPGA too. I can't remember what It was called. I wish there was more stableford events.

[@scottshephard2356]

Was one of the best majors in a while. Loads of good golf, loads of people in with a chance. Much better than the snorefest masters and much better than the US Open grind!

[@duncanbush453]

That cop gave Scottie a new character, a new back story and us a lot of comedy. Scottie owes that cop.

[@DavidJones-ko8gp]

Does the DP World Tour even exist now? Please discuss next week.

[@markscott4182]

The fact nobody picked Bryson in that draft was absolutely criminal

[@PetSKi67]

People, ypu should listen also the Son of a Butch pod! Claude had intresting insights on golf and bring Koepka’s coach also on LIV.

[@TheMachoMan]

If the PGA wanted to go global they should rotate the PGA Championship globally around different countries. The Masters = in the US, cannot move. The US Open = literally called "US", cannot move. So why does the USA need 3x majors on its soil? Move the PGA Champsionhip overseas

[@calross7143]

If one was blind, deaf, and dumb and maybe didn't recognize the monopoly the PGA had on world golf...1 country has 3 Majors!! The golfers of the rest of the world have to travel to America to compete in Majors against American golfers playing at home (America)...how can that be fair? We all know it's way easier to play at home than away from home... Each continent should have a Major and when golfers compete all over the world, then we can see who is genuinely the world's best golfer, not America's best golfer, or the best golfer playing mostly or exclusively in America. To prove my point, who is the best-ever golfer up to this date: Gary Jack Tiger Majors 9 (9 away) 18 (3 away) 15 (3 away) Snr Majors 9 8 - World Match Play 5 1 3 Australian Opens 7 6 - Brazilian Opens 1 - - South African Opens 13 - - Total Tournaments Won 165 117 110 Consecutive years with a tournament win 27 years 24 years 18 years

[@Daniel189HLL]

Maybe they'd be good at pinball too?

[@andrewcullinan2488]

I normally think its the worst major of the year but i was glued this year. More so than any major in the last couple of years.

[@markscott4182]

What a silly title this has literally been the best major for about 3 years straight

[@highhcplowhope]

Why have they replaced Jacob with a red lightbulb?

[@ShOrt_RoUnD]

The PGA does know what it wants to be: long holes, narrow fairways, long thick rough, one of the best fields in golf. But beefing up the course doesn’t do anything when the greens are basically flat and thick rough is predictable. It becomes “hit the ball hard, chop out, make putts.” No creative shots, it’s easy for the top tier

[@qbclay2]

was a great major !

[@markwalker103]

Winner! Mick - Sheffler 8, Niemann 39, Cantlay 53, Fitzpatrick 69 = 169 (236); Pete - McIlroy 12, Clark 69, Zalatoris 43, Meronk 69 = 193 (344) Is there a change coming on Clark or Meronk?; Kieran - Rahm 69, Shauffele 1, Matsuyama 35, Johnson 43 = 148 (299); Jacob - Kepka 26, Hovland 3, Aberg 69, Smith 63 = 161 (274); me - Morikawa 4, Thomas 8, Fowler 63, Rose 6 = 81 (234). 😊

[@markwalker103]

Just saw your score totals. What did you award for a missed cut?

[@craigthibodeau324]

Pete looks ten years younger with the beard trimmed down.

[@CobraCooKais]

I think apart from Ryder Cup, the only match play that will get ratings is a PGA vs LIV.

[@marksheppard6248]

Bryson not a happy bunny at his post round interview 🙈

[@Ozarkemptynesters]

So if it’s not a good major venue…then does that invalidate Rory’s last major win 10 years ago?….at Valhalla?

[@aeastwood54]

Just time to get away from courses that have high rough so close to green. Big tightly mown run off areas are a far bigger punishment to professional golfers.

[@dylanb3122]

Please speak louder or be closer to the mics. Great content, but can barely hear it at times

[@pwill6138]

Most entertaining PGA championship I’ve seen in years. The people clutching their pearls about the “scores being too low” are just freaks and losers who wanna see professionals play badly. The VAST majority of fans had an absolute blast watching that tournament. I was at Valhalla for championship Sunday and I can assure you, no one there was unhappy because of the scores.

[@kanokanick]

Matchplay major would be so good, first 2 days to gain a seed for a draw for the next 2 days

[@andreastusch2526]

Make the olympics a matchplay event, singles and foursome, maybe a mixed event too

[@m.d.8721]

is nobody going to talk about Morikawas epic putting-meltdown ?????

[@henryweston8273]

How about instead of USPGA it was made a Worldwide PGA and each year it is in a different country that isn't USA or UK. That would help to grow the game worldwide and give it an identity.

[@PatrickPeed]

This was the best major because Scottie was contending

[@user-gs1nn4ts6o]

I found that major pretty entertaining. I think we'll see an additional international major in the future and the PGA will become an after thought. LIV, if it continues to hit the right spaces, will prove the need for that. Golf is not Americas game.

[@spjm17]

What spaces is LIV hitting right now. Their viewing numbers are awful, lol. LIV is now in its 3rd season, and only 1 major winner in Brooks 😂

[@andrew_l1900]

The Australian open should have always been a major, it’s the 3rd longest running competition in the world and used to get a stacked field up until the pga tour tried to actively destroy it by scheduling against it and telling players not to go.

[@user-gs1nn4ts6o]

They've got to have an incentive to go though. Hopefully the tide is changing. I dont know if LIV is it, but something needed to change! @@andrew_l1900

[@user-gs1nn4ts6o]

I am not a fan of the LIV product for many reasons, but the Adelaide is an example of its potential if dont right and I would perhaps suggest analysing its impact in a few years time. Because, there are parts of the world that are hungry for professional golf and local tours can feed off that. I think their is potential in the global game. If LIV forecast and deliver to the right audience, it could have something. But its dogshit format, needs to change and appeal. @@spjm17​

[@Dokuji]

If Valhalla was dried out since, let's just say the prior tuesday or even wednesday, the winning score might have been roughly half at about 10 under or less.. It's a great course, and I don't think it deserves all the crap it's taking just on account of weather. And in the end, it produced an intense leaderboard and a great finish down to the last putt. I think the narrative that the course is to blame for ANYthing (other than traffic) is objectively false.

[@sylvandude1]

Phil Michelson reputation has changed more in last 5 years, very unfairly in my opinion

[@TazzzieAdventures]

1. Rory will never ever win another Major. 2. Xander's gripping don't knock it add it to your game(Can't Hurt) 3. I was told orange before a game of golf is good for you.

[@spjm17]

With the exception of winning one, he's the most consistent performer over the last 10 years in Majors. 20 top ten finishes. Of the last 10 majors, missed the cut once, finished outside the top 7 in 2, and finished 7 or better in the rest. He'll def win another.

[@TazzzieAdventures]

Yep great numbers. Only 4 Majors a year and Rory nearly ready for the seniors tour time has pasted him by so zero chance he will ever win a major again. He has had a great run. Sure he will still win off cut matches. Just an opinion. Take a photo of this just in case he does and bag the crap out of me 🙂

[@spjm17]

@TazzzieAdventures no I get you. But I just think Rory too good not to. It's his longevity that's impressive. Still one of the best in the world. I think he'll win one, when he's not expected too anymore.

[@johndlawlor]

Rory needs a back door major, the type that Pereira handed over to Justin Thomas in 2022. He could have won 2 or 3 over 2022-2023 season, but nobody on top of the leaderboard fell apart, except for himself.

[@robertarbuckle8493]

Half an hour in and no mention of Bob McIntyre yet,,,,hopefully he gets discussed

[@dieterlamm1819]

The Scheffler incident isn't funny. It shows how much is wrong in this country.

[@joshramirez7]

Arresting a white guy not obeying traffic orders? Yeah, that is not what is wrong with this country.

[@garydavis8213]

THAT incident shows what’s wrong with the country? 😂

[@lifebymickw]

Fifth!

[@bigfraz23]

Why no love for Robert McIntyre the boy did really well for his first US major finished well and just trying to settle down to new life in America to bedroom himself.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏌️‍♂️ think Pete should swap out Smith for him he’ll do you know harm especially in the Genesis

[@stevemcvay2220]

Thought it was just me disappointed in this “major”

[@Bech285]

The PGA has always been a little boring and the least "fun" of the majors, but so far it was the best one. I watched a lot more than the masters and when I think back, really it's more the build up to the masters that's the fun part. It's the first major and the season in Denmark is just beginning, but when I watch it, it's always just meh. PGA was awesome and definitely moved up a spot imo.

[@KevFlamingo]

Yes, the PGA does not have a defining characteristic. It's just another parkland tournament with longer rough Golf is a World game and needs a major outside of Europe and The Americas. The answer is the Australian Open, played exclusively in sand belt type courses.

[@MrRaffles1234]

Golf is a world game that needs a major that moves from country to country.

[@savingyoutime4755]

Talking point presented by performance 54, your friendly Saudi media investment fund😂. It's embarrassing at this point.

[@johndlawlor]

The copped arrested Scottie on suspicion of carrying a concealed personality. Released when they found nothing.

[@Pud56]

US Open and PGA shouldn’t be majors. The Open, is the number one Major, Masters is loved around the World and is a worthy Major. As the game is so global, we need an Asian Major, Australian Major, South American Major and lastly an African Major. This gives us 6 majors, and i would suggest bi monthly events offering the viewing public year long entertainment.

[@daniele1569]

3 Majors in the US and 1 in the UK does not reflect the global popularity of golf. They should demote the PGA and make an Asian open the 4th major.

[@JackBaxter21]

Pete’s had botox

[@Mr.Fore_Play]

the amount of casual golf fans saying this was a great major is astonishing. Valhalla is not a great major track, easy birdie fest that had little to no punishment for hitting off shots. PGA Championship is fine, Valhalla is not. for Christ's sake, Valhalla made Quail Hollow look like a world class venue... and thats saying a lot.

[@RoughCutGolfPodcast]

Exactly our point.

[@aussiem8130]

Cheesy intro very cheesy hmmmmmmmm

[@lvond555]

Bryson is just fake. He learned from Ricky about how to make the most money from his image by saying/doing the right thing. His heart was never in the right place. Don't know how everyone is fooled into liking him.

[@lauriemorgan9083]

Number 1000 in Aussie. The crape you guys go with has nothing to do with golf.

[@golfbn]

Worst major is The Masters, weak field once u take out the past champions and the amatuers maybe 25 people have a shot at winning it, US Open is best major, then PGA is second best, The British Open is more about the weather and the draw then who plays best a lot of times. The Players should be a major before the masters.

[@Pud56]

Sorry that’s nonsense, US Open and PGA shouldn’t be majors. The Open, is the number one Major, Masters is loved around the World and is a worthy Major. As the game is so global, we need an Asian Major, Australian Major, South American Major and and African Major. This gives us 6 majors, and i would suggest bi monthly events offering the viewing public year long entertainment.

[@joshramirez7]

​@Pud56 US Open shouldn't be a major? I love how you didn't give a reason for this because that is also nonsense.

[@thewaygokid3135]

I don’t think I’ve ever known or heard of someone with that opinion.

[@Pud56]

@@thewaygokid3135 its simply, the US should have only one major, golf is a global sport, not that the USGA thinks that. THE PGA of America try and steal the Worlds best golfers believing they are omni powerful, LIV are changing that dynamic. The major manufacturers are recognising that golf exists outside the US, the immediate growth is ASIA, but Africa is also catching up. Europe and Australia have been treated appallingly by the US PGA, but that dynamic is also changing. So if the US Open is to be a Major, The Masters loses its spot, Golf takes its choice.

[@garydavis8213]

@@Pud56The fact that golf is a global game doesn’t mean the Masters shouldn’t be a major.

[@cokecansith2886]

Shane changed to the spider z before the Zurich. Seems to be working. How long til Pete gives it a go 🫡🤣