Round Arnos Grove

Sudbury Town was a good start, but could Charles Holden do better with his next Tube station? Yes and no...
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[@PokhrajRoy.]

Jago has reinforced the delight in telling a well rounded story.

[@globalpeasant]

Ouch

[@jermainelong1843]

And without resorting to any circular arguments🤭

[@barneypaws4883]

A real pillar of the tube

[@Leonard_Smith]

I never fail to be amazed at how many silk purses you can produce from seemingly so few pig ears 😎

[@ice_cream_melt]

Loving these recent Charles Holden videos. I think I might call the group of them "The Holden Huddle"

[@rainyfeathers9148]

Izanagi!🃏

[@nixxie2390]

My Grandfather was the station master of Arnos Grove in WW2 & beyond - he had a really nice retirement present of a free family lifetime train ticket - any of us traveling with him got onto the underground for free as much as he wanted! Made going to London on holiday great fun as he'd flash his ticket to the guard and we'd all swan on behind him!! Brilliant. And he was a lovely Grandad.

[@highpath4776]

Jago would like to be grade 2 listed so he can have his original features restored

[@neville132bbk]

Perhaps he prefers the weathered Portland stone look.....

[@SteveMikre44]

Jago should be awarded a Doctorate in British Rail History from Oxford University...🎓🚂🚃

[@TheGunnarRoxen]

Maybe we be more suitable from the also esteemed University College London (UCL) or King's College, London (KCL)? (no sleights meant to any other universities)

[@SteveMikre44]

@@TheGunnarRoxen 🤔👍

[@eadweard.]

​@@TheGunnarRoxen To be fair KCL is on top of Aldwych so that feels best to me.

[@hb1338]

Such things are of value and aren't given away - Mr Hazzard would need at the very least to submit a thesis, a document containing the results of his *original* research.

[@eadweard.]

@@hb1338 I assumed he meant honorary degree.

[@AndreiTupolev]

I dont know about free flow of passengers, but I've always found Piccadilly Circus rather confusing. Its easy to go all the way round it more than once before you notice the ticket gates that you've already gone past twice 😣

[@hb1338]

It is a problem of the signage - if there were better signs, you could find your desired exit on the first circuit.

[@template16]

Always remember Arnos Grove as a stand alone station but now the car park gone or going soon and flats to be built around the station will change the station entirely. Pleased you made this video before the buildings go up. Thanks Jago.

[@danielgroom3866]

Just moved away from the area and London in general for work and this was a lovely treat. Thank you. The Arnos arms, the pub down the road, has a dot matrix hooked up where you can see the bus and tube times, very convenient and should be adopted as standard for any boozer in London

[@terrycostin7259]

It's a lovely station both inside and out and bright and airy , only been there once and spent half an hour wandering it , if anyone is passing through get of and have a looksie the booking is amazing , truly.

[@Batters56]

Couldn’t wish for a nicer station to be kicked off the tube at! I spent many a cold morning and evening waiting 10 mins or so for onward travel when I lived out that way. I also remember witnessing an argument between drivers about who should take a train up to Cockfosters and back!

[@johncamp2567]

One of the most attractive stations that you have featured!! The bus area in front gives the set-back to allow more openness….a plaza feel ( 2:00 ).

[@teecefamilykent]

Cracking video sir, here is to you and the next one!

[@alanmoss3603]

It is also the tube station most frequented by Daleks!

[@thomashrubecky1663]

Really?!? I cannot recall in which episodes the Daleks & this Tube Station appeared. Is it an @bigfinish story(irs)? Please enlighten me!

[@hatjodelka]

I thought that accolade belonged to Wood Green station until it was demolished.

[@alanmoss3603]

@@hatjodelka Yes, but It was actually demolished by a Dalek having a hissy-fit! Now they are relegated to using Arnos Grove! And serves them right!

[@НикитаЖуков-ъ3ю]

The beginning of Agatha Christie's Poirot episode's Wasp's Nest was filmed in Arnos Grove station building

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Piccadilly Line is my favourite line on the Underground. Maybe it’s because of the fact that it was the first route I took. Also because it connects so many points.

[@baxtermarrison5361]

It is possibly my favourite purely based on its name, The Great Northern, Piccadilly & Brompton Railway.

[@johnm2012]

When I first arrived in London in the early '80s I used to watch the Piccadilly line trains speed through my local station, Chiswick Park, without stopping, while I waited for my District line train. On Sundays or if I needed to travel early in the morning or late at night I'd walk a bit further to Turnham Green and get the Piccadilly instead.

[@baxtermarrison5361]

@@johnm2012 Good to see that you don't hold a grudge against the GNP&BR!! 😊

[@hb1338]

@@johnm2012 Did you not feel a slight tinge of envy at all those people able to get on with their life while you had to wait ?

[@johnm2012]

@@hb1338 Only on the coldest winter mornings when I had to wait all of maybe ten minutes! My journey to work was westbound, against the flow so I was happy that my trains were less crowded. At the weekends, going into London I was able to make more use of the Piccadilly line, either by changing at Hammersmith or, usually when returning home or on Sundays, using Turnham Green.

[@wilsonflood4393]

Arnos Grove absolutely captures the feel of the 1930s. It is to be enveloped in a time warp just using the station. It is wonderful.

[@Thepuffingyank]

thank you for getting around to making this video

[@1959BB]

Oooh, Porsche 944 in Guards Red at 0.15. Nice work Mr Jago capturing that!

[@camenbert5837]

I reckon it's Jago's. Shoot the film and roar off shouting into a brick-sized phone "I don't care what Geoff's done, find me new quirky stuff now. We'll do lunch, have your people call my people"

[@clivemay6877]

It also appears in an episode of Poirot. 〰️

[@fosterfuchs]

The first time I came to London was in 1983, when I was a teenager. I stayed with a family over Easter break, and the closest tube station they lived to was Arnos Grove. Good memories!

[@ralph3539]

Apparently Arnos groves' inspiration is Stockholm public library

[@SmudgeThomas]

Nice video as ever. I particularly agree with the "speak for yourself duckie" - the tube is where I go to relax

[@eadweard.]

I also take the two penny tube and avoid all anxiety.

[@antncs6]

I once considered Arnos Grove to be a good name for a Mod band

[@AndreiTupolev]

G reg Porsche 928 or 944 at the beginning. Nice.

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

A very nice 944 that. A classic car, though still a lot younger than the 73 stock on the Piccadilly Line!

[@eattherich9215]

I must make a point to visit more of these Charles Holden designed stations - only managed East Finchley so far specifically for a closer look at the archer.

[@brettpalfrey4665]

Well thats another classic Tube station for me to visit! Thanks as always, Jago!

[@alanbeaumont4848]

External views of Arnos Grove (renamed Marble Hill) restored to a period appearance feature in the Poirot TV series episode "Wasp's Nest" (S3 E5), with David Suchet managing to be out in the countryside after crossing the road! Recognised it straight away as I commuted to work from it for a couple of decades.

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

The shots were amazing, even a row of payphones which might merit a whole video - the disappearing payphones of London Underground!

[@hb1338]

If it goes well, a series - the disappearing payphones of the United Kingdom.

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

@@hb1338 Hmm - the payphone where I live - Stepps in North Lanarkshire - was removed a few years ago without any comment in the local press, nor from any of the local residents whom I know personally having lived here for 30+ years. The last time I used it was in 2008 when I had to phone BT as there was a problem with my landline, and you could phone them free from a payphone. How the telecom world has changed! Now all that's left of our payphone is a square metre of different coloured tarmac outside the local pharmacy - which used to be a branch of the Royal Bank of Scotland. Another sign of the times - banks replaced by pharmacies! One has to live with the times.

[@CorvoFG]

Six months from drawing board to operational is something that most civil engineering projects could only dream of these days.

[@seanbonella]

I actually like this building, very subtle...... perfect again Jago

[@hannahk6515]

To me, Arnos Grove looks very similar Chiswick Park (the latter of which is my favourite station design wise on the underground!)

[@JagoHazzard]

Keep an eye on this channel over the next couple of weeks…

[@londonerwalks]

Had to collect my daughter many an evening from this station. It gave me time to appreciate Charles Holden's architecture :)

[@Pinkybum]

I was predicting: You are the concrete roofs to my Staffordshire brick walls. Drat!

[@RonDennisMum]

Travelled from and to this wonderful station every day for several years. Thank you for further elucidating this Holden classic.

[@dukeofaaghisle7324]

An art deco masterpiece!

[@RogersRamblings]

An excellent appreciation, in the round one might say.

[@MrGreatplum]

It’s an excellently maintained time warp by the looks of it - love the classic “way out” signs as well - I really must travel up the Piccadilly line at some point.

[@jessicabenge3797]

I really like all the little model bits and figures you can see in the circular building in the middle of the station. They are really cute.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

A circular pasimiter? Is that what you said? Anyway it reminds me of the information booth and clock at Grand Central Terminal in New York.

[@highpath4776]

Passimeter. I think Jago is wrong, we would call it a ticked booth (see another comment I will make)

[@lawrencelewis2592]

@@highpath4776 I still don't know what that means.

[@badatfootball4698]

Keep these videos about the Piccadilly Line stations coming - they are the best! As you say, the trains often terminate at Arnos Grove as I’m trying to get to Oakwood but it’s no big deal as the change over line is literally just a few paces away and the trains are frequent too.

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

7:32 That's a bold way to cross the road

[@brettdagooner6663]

I was brought up and lived in arnos grove from birth to 18. my mum still lives there. Always loved the station, ( maybe not the train service though)

[@cncshrops]

I moved away from North London in 1976, seldom to return, so these Cockfosters Extension videos in particular are quite nostalgic. I remember just how quite the stations and their surroundings were during the day. Not rural but nothing like the urban melee that I imagine they are today. As I say, nostalgia. 😢

[@yahalyulmer2912]

Hey Jago, what about a viedo regarding Great Portland Street Sation? It's my favorite!

[@a1white]

“This train will now terminate at Arnos Grove” A familiar announcement to passengers heading up to Southgate, Oakwood or Cockfosters.

[@monoonyx]

Of all the Holden stations none quite beat Chiswick Park for me. The large rounded glass and concrete facade with the brick tower just feels so right, although the lamps in place today aren't quite so handsome. You also get a decent view of parts of the London skyline from the eastern end of the westbound platforms.

[@roberthuron9160]

A tale of circular reasoning,and straight line operations! Arnos Grove has survived,and the design speaks for itself,definitely it aged well! How many other Modern Style building have made that grade? Thank you,Jago,again,for the excursion into the wilds of North London! Thank you 😇 😊!!

[@rubbersteve123]

Hi, that my local underground station for 20 years until we moved away. Enjoy

[@hughs591]

Also known as the "Underground House" style I believe. Lovely, thank you !

[@ThatScottishAtlantic57]

Great Video Jago 👍

[@likklej8]

When I was in Art College in London in late 60s we used ride the tube just to see how many stations we could do to check the local pubs. Great to show the Art Deco stations

[@davidwong9230]

Seeing things in the round at Arnos Grove

[@moraynichol]

Excellent. Southgate was my local station and I consider that to be Holden’s masterpiece. I grew up thinking that all stations were like this.

[@AllensTrains]

Quite an interesting video. When you made your video about the Class 313 and went down to Newhaven Town, you missed the opportunity to get off at Bishopstone, and add it to the list of Art Deco stations that you have featured! This station is by James Robb Scott, who also designed Hastings Station, which had to be demolished because it had a concrete roof like the one at Sudbery Town. The ingress of water into the reinforced concrete made the structure unsafe. Bishopstone is interesting from a JH video point of view because there is a story attached in that the then Southern Railway built it in anticipation of a large housing development that didn't occur. James Rob Scott also designed Wimbledoa and Wimbledon Chase, so there's a video in that! Keep the videos coming. Thanks for uploading.

[@luisstransport]

Great video Jago

[@stewartellinson8846]

Very nice it is too.

[@john_o]

My local station (well, local to my grandmother since I live in Ireland and visit her on holidays every so often, though I was baptised at the nearby church since I used to live there). I always pronounced it "Arn-us" Grove.

[@Thornaby37]

Another excellent documentary by Jago 👍

[@lmonk9517]

Blessed station with lots of kl unique features.

[@oakwoodian4465]

Like most of his generation my father rarely spoke of his experiences during the War. He was in a "Reserved Occupation" as the company he worked for were engaged in essential war production. We lived at Oakwood and Dad once told us that his worst experience of the War was being decanted out of the train at Arnos Grove in the middle of an air raid with bombs and incendiaries raining down. There was no air raid shelter on the platform so probably the concrete construction must have provided some cover. I wonder if this was the same raid that seriously damaged Bounds Green up the line. Despite travelling through Arnos Grove hundreds of times I only very rarely found myself passing through the ticket hall. I seem to remember there was a panel on the wall (like an advert) in black glass on which there was some image or another. Whether this was intended to be illuminated for some purpose I don't know but I wonder if it is still there or anyone else remembers anything similar at another station.

[@MervynPartin]

A very nice station. My Grandparents who did not live very far from Arnos Grove, always pronounced the name exactly as you did, so you are absolutely right. I sometimes parked my motorbike at the station and caught the train from there, although New Southgate mainline station was also very close and I usually walked there.

[@Brentwoodmartin]

Another masterpiece, sir! Love the Art Deco architecture. Well done TGW.

[@peterjansen7929]

Another great video - thanks a lot! As KZbin doesn't seem to work well with links in comments, not even to the official UNESCO list of World Heritage Sites, let me try again without a link what didn't work out for the Sudbury Town video. Charles Holden's architecture was well designed to give people the feeling that a new era had arrived. But many aspects of the style have old - even barely believably old - precedents. Look at a building that conveys the same impression and shares at least some elements of Holden's style, namely the Konstantinbasilika in Trier, Germany, not just listed but a World Heritage Site. Just look at pictures and guess when it was built. Answer: Early 4th century!

[@mad_wombat]

I consider myself somewhat of a train nerd, but I never fail to learn new things in a J Hazzard Esq video.

[@sarahlouise7163]

6 months from design to operation that doesn’t happen very often these days it’s nice, i like it

[@isashax]

One day I need to go and visit all these stations on the Piccadilly line extension.

[@julias-shed]

My late great aunt and uncle lived in the first house opposite the station fond memories of the piccalilli line 😀

[@davidsummer8631]

Arnos Grove..Which was the style of the time

[@highpath4776]

I always thought a Passimeter was a particular type of ticket issuing and checking device , I dont recall seeing a specific design though it is often mentions. Some I think did have a kind of turnstile at the ticket office etc but was one automatic rather than treadle operated by the ticket collector ?

[@Jimyjames73]

Very nice Jago 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@richardsingh5827]

Interesting video, I might visit that station

[@Andrewjg_89]

Arnos Grove Piccadilly Line station in North London is very interesting and how it was built that has kept its characteristics when it was built. I haven’t been to Arnos Grove before but I have been on the Piccadilly Line. And the station is in a very nice area called Arnos Grove in North London and at one time it was in Middlesex before being transferred to Greater London in 1965.

[@JimBobLandi]

FINALLY MY ARNOS GETS THE RECOGNITION IT DESERVES ❤

[@PMA65537]

If it's a station we can film it.

[@shaddersshadwell4941]

My local station growing up

[@neilbain8736]

The nerd in me would measure the perimeter of both Sudbury Town and Arnos Grove in paces by walking round them and calculating the area, though the ocd would have me try count the bricks which are all the same nominal size. By the time I got to Arnos Grove I'd be going round in circles to three decimal places.

[@hb1338]

You would then have to decide whether you were measuring volume or floor space. How would you measure the height of a building by eye ?

[@neilbain8736]

@@hb1338 Usually buildings are stated in surface area not volume. Presumably people are used to being pretty 2 dimensional. But measuring height it would be the same though you would have to count a convenient no. of bricks up to, say, a length you can visually transpose up and count the no. of lengths. The length of the height of the number of bricks could be determined by patterns made the bricks. There would be a degree of error, confusion and eye strain but if you've got ocd like mine you get used to it or get on at a station made of a completely different material.

[@justinrovers1]

Seems weird to hear UERL without a picture of you know who. Haha another fantastic video!!

[@ianthomson9363]

Jago, I wouldn't put much trust in pronunciation by the staff- I recently went on the Jubilee Line eastwards and the driver repeatedly told us that the train would terminate in Green Witch.

[@AndreiTupolev]

The direct service to Oz, presumably

[@thomashrubecky1663]

@@AndreiTupolev Well, I guess you're not in Kansas anymore!

[@sillypuppy5940]

ask him to spell it

[@ijmad]

Arnos Grove is great. Maybe its twin, Chiswick Park, will be next? :)

[@johna5635]

Don't think I've ever been to Arnos Grove despite it being relatively nearby - but the recent bench video and now this one make me feel I've been missing out! Are you secretly working for the Arnos Grove Tourist Board?!

[@StevensPaul]

Sometimes ya just gotta go with the flow. 🌬️🍃

[@fumthings]

the terminating platform makes terminating of services possible but its not really a reason. the reason would be to increase train frequency in the core section, and to get trains for cockfosters back on time when running late by returning them short of the destination. you might think trains run every 2 to 3 minutes but they actually have a timetable.

[@RichardWatt]

My wife, mother in law and I stayed in a B&B close to Arnos Grove for a few days back in the early 2000's.

[@highvoltageswitcher6256]

👍

[@defender1006]

Oh, a Porsche 968 and a classic surface Underground station, that's a feast for us 'engineering/petrol heads' etc?!

[@kengerreli870]

Imagine my surprise when I saw the town station at Dijon ! See Wikipedia.

[@fenlinescouser4105]

Not everyone called it the Piccadilly Line. A certain member of staff at the old Angel station would refer to it as The Pickerlee Dickerlee Line if giving directions to enquirers. Furthermore, there was a BBC documentary at the time of Angel rebuild capturing the moment he managed to confuse two Japanese tourists with just such a response.

[@adamhenley8295]

Ah integrated transport planning - how quaint 🤔😳

[@PabloBD]

More round reinforced rural stations please

[@ZGryphon]

If the locals don't call this station "the Hatbox", I am very disappointed in them.

[@JimBobLandi]

I am taking this personally

[@stephenjcuk7562]

I found myself distracted by the red Porsche 944 at the start. The 40 year old car design looks contemporary compared with the fixtures and fittings still in use inside the station.

[@Themclachlans]

I noticed that, having had one once. Great car, pity it caught fire...

[@tangerinedream7211]

We must remember to heap praise on Heaps. Arnos Grove, hmmmm, sounds like an early Pink Floyd song.

[@railwaychristina3192]

Does anyone remember the Sikh ticket inspector at Arnos Grove with the tortoiseshell cat? In the 80s.

[@hb1338]

Strange idea that making your ticketing hall circular allows for greater flow of traffic.

[@roboghostdog]

When ether am in these stations, I imagine my self being inside UFO.

[@altair8598]

As a Holden fan I was a little disappointed you don't mention the small permanent exhibition to him there - at least there was about five years ago.

[@wilting_alocasia]

Question - Do any of the stations buildings contain Asbestos? Just genuinely curious as my friend is a surveyor and has gotten me weirdly interested in it all 😂

[@camenbert5837]

Almost certainly when built. How much still remains is a question known only to LU. But a fireproof material that could be moulded in all kinds of ways, was manna from heaven to the builders and designers.

[@PopeLando]

Great title! 😂

[@pbiggsy]

People who have lived in the area for 85 years (my Mum) pronounce Arnos more like "Arners" (and with the emphasis on the first syllable).

[@boundsgreenboy]

Exactly right. I was born and bred just a stop away in Bounds Green and everone local pronounces it 'Arners'. I found the way Jago was pronouncing it to be rather odd

[@davidf2281]

It's difficult to imagine a tube station with, "fields on three sides" now. I'd like to know if there are any photos.