Rowan: The Worst Fire Emblem Lord? - MaxHP

[@-._____-]

Rowen suffers from Narutoitis. He screams "I'm a generic shonen protagonist".

[@cypher838]

Yeah he is unlikable

[@windmage0168]

Rowan: I am a reckless child with an IQ in the single digits.

[@opalyasu7159]

@Anime PFP is Overhated (IsaacInfernape2000) *RULES OF NATURE*

[@BvLee]

You wanna know what's irredeemable? That hair. Not only is it ridiculous looking on him but it's practically primary yellow. They could've at least made their hair a less saturated color more like Lissa or Elise and not only would it make Rowan a little more tolerable; it would've made Lianna's design actually pretty decent.

[@matthewjones6786]

To be fair, the Fire Emblem series has characters with hair of all kinds of bizarre colors. This seems like a natural evolution. :P

[@hornetsilksong]

If there's any color I hate the most, it'd probably be that neon piss yellow and its darker bile yellow shades.

[@roaringthunder115]

Yeah get the piss off and we are good

[@shawnboahene5231]

Yeah I noticed that it’s not blond but simspons yellow it’s weird

[@opalyasu7159]

He has super saiyan hair

[@noct2744]

Alfonse > Rowan At least Alfonse is more mature, Rowan and his fugly design really gets under my skin. And don't get me started on his voice.

[@Joey3264]

tell me about it.. i think he was added Literally to appeal to Naruto fanboys

[@RedsWifey1031]

Yuri Nakamura When i first saw Rowan, all i did was roast him with that super saiyan hair

[@davids3094]

Yuri Nakamura tbh alfonse is lianna and rowan and is shareena

[@nah4467]

He's a wannabe Owain...without the charm of Owain referencing previous games.

[@shadowknightchambers7931]

@@nah4467 do not compare rowan too the legendary chosen one from the future -lucina- Owain

[@Emboarbof]

I prefer Benchboy Alfonso.

[@Multibe150]

Emboar bof Alfonso at least is a bit smart and can do some moves story-wise. Gameplay-wise though...

[@HarmonicVector]

ABOVE ALL, THE MISSION! - Alfonso Ribiero

[@SenshuRysakami]

Recent compitition (Ayra and Mia in particular) make it hard to justify building Alfonse.

[@Skyrus456]

At 5 Star and with his legendary weapon, Alfonse is actually a really good enemy phase unit with Quick Riposte 3 or 2 and Moonbow/Dragonic Aura. His attack is insanely high and if you give him the speed sacred seal he can avoid being doubled by units that have speeds at the low 30s. With Quick Riposte 2 or 3, he can double on enemy phase and take out red and green units fairly well. He can even run DC and do well with it. Just don't put him in range of a blue mage or he'll get destroyed. Sure units like Ayra and Mia outclass him but he is not bad for a budget sword user and I feel that he is probably the most underrated character of FEH.

[@SenshuRysakami]

Sorry if I worded that weirdly before. By no means is Alphonse a bad unit, I admit he's good. But the massive and constantly growing pool of Red sword competition is very fierce. I have considered leveling him up, but the investment of feathers and units, when I have at least 4 red swords that could do what he does (Marth, Mia, Ayra, and Ike) just makes the idea unappealing.

[@berkutrudolf2974]

At least he didn't steal your right to the throne!

[@haveagoodday7021]

LIES LIES LIES LIES!

[@monchete9934]

And made you insane to the point you took your loved's cheers as an insult

[@tumblingmuffin1967]

Berkut Rudolf Ikr DAMN HIM

[@Aereto]

Well, he was doing a bit of Alm's final blow with shield throw, but messed up at the sword catch... Not to mention he can be a bit reckless... like Alm.

[@thehermit8618]

Berkut Rudolf dont you have a girlfriend to sacrifice?

[@healthydegree3671]

I don't find Rowan awful just overplayed anime stereotype

[@Chillwave6]

"Shut up Rowan."

[@monchete9934]

"Shut up, Tobin"

[@Chillwave6]

"Put me in!"

[@BlazingBlueSwords]

Well the only good thing Rowan did for me is make me appreciate Alfonse more

[@darriusaustin7436]

MageKnightBluBlazer amen I love alfonse he's gotten a lot cooler in book 2 and his awesome attack.

[@grandexalt777]

Hail to the bench boi

[@xdsmile5359]

Ill take bench boi over an annoying brat any day P.s. except sothis dont pissoff child dragon god

[@agentofchaos2750]

I have a confession to make... I don't dislike Rowan. I actually kind of like him. True, he's not terribly bright, and we don't know his motivations, but do we need to? His obsession to become a knight, or a proud warrior is not uncommon in younger children, and among nobility of the medieval era, it wasn't necessarily uncommon for kings and lords to put aside the crown and take up the sword. I've always considered his dislike for his father just...resentment over his death. It's implied that Rowan's father has been dead for a long time, and died from sickness. Rowan- being the empathetic, hotheaded, not-so-bright barely a man that he is- probably resents his father for dying while he was still young, and making his family grieve for him. With this, the idea of weakness and kingliness is truly intertwined in his mind, and has roots in something very much Rowan: love for his mother. Weakness means leaving people behind. Being a king makes you weak. As for Rowan's character development (or lack thereof)? It would be incorrect to say he doesn't develop at all, or to say that there is no reason for him to change his mind on accepting the crown in the end. In the end, I would say his reasoning lies in the one royal we know he respects: Darios. Darios, who Rowan looks up to as an older brother. Darios, the indomitable warrior that put aside time to train Rowan in combat... Darios that betrayed Rowan's kingdom. Who fought bitterly with as a man possessed. Fighting Darios foced- for the first time -Rowan to consider the consequences of violence, the first time he had a personal connection with the person he would have to kill. Ultimately, it was likely Darios's own death that turned Rowan onto the path of becoming King: Darios showed Rowan there is more to strength than swinging a sword, and that sometimes it takes strength NOT to fight. When Darios curses his own weakness, to keep the chaos dragon at bay, Rowan has to either reshape his idea of what strength is, or spit upon the man he loved as a brother and looked up to for most of his life, as perhaps his only friend... In the end, Darios is strong enough to protect Lianna and Rowan. Not because he is a strong knight who can swing a sword and cleave the dragon in two, but because he had just enough power for a single push; to push Rowan and Lianna away from the Chaos dragon's attack, and bear it himself. After Darios's death, we see Rowan change. For much of the story up until this point Rowan has been...selfish, inconsiderate. However, after discovering his mother is alive, he doesn't rush to see her and protect her. Instead of rushing to protect half of all the family he has left, he puts aside his selfish desires and rushes to the aid of his people. He no longer fights for his friends, he fights for his kingdom... and when the time came he could no longer help his people with a sword, he took up the crown.

[@NovaRedDragon]

Agent of Chaos This needs more likes.

[@joserios3733]

this better get top comment

[@dablotte9200]

YOU READ MY MIND EXACTLY LIKE DAMN.

[@soyeah64]

Yee rowan is cool imo

[@KinjiroTsuchiya66]

Yeah that

[@Faerghast]

... I liked his voice

[@MaxHP1]

In truth its really not all that bad outside of story cutscenes

[@amanasd26]

I'm sorry about the loss of your hearing.

[@EmiCheese]

Yeah, i get what can be annoying about it to other people but i don't dislike it.

[@jedyzichterman358]

Ghast Frat boy Rowan intensifies

[@ArthurGaming146]

When he isn’t yelling, it’s fine. When he his? God is someone scratching a chalkboard?

[@genobeamandflash92]

I feel bad for Lianna, she has to rule over everything that's not the military. Because we all know that's what Rowen cares about.

[@starfalchion4404]

Kylo Vader Probably is humble and doesn’t think she can handle it. I don’t know, I forgot her supports.

[@sophiagonzales8974]

@@starfalchion4404 yeah that’s her reason in a nutshell but honestly I prefer lianna to Rowan anyway

[@maxmoroney4607]

Cool concepts that are literally never mentioned in any detail and instead overshadowed by their less appealing traits? Rowan is to FEW as Camilla is to FE14.

[@kevin-cy3cf]

Max Moroney is she really that bad i don't get the hate especially when she has a counterpart that has done way worst then she could ever do

[@stefanfr13]

Your comparison just made me imagine Rowan with Camilla's body. Hope you're proud of yourslef.

[@maxmoroney4607]

kevin I don’t dislike Camilla, for the record, but she definitely could have been handled better. Also, who exactly is her counterpart in this scenario?

[@kevin-cy3cf]

Max Moroney who do u think? Hint she also shows up in fates tho oddly i ended up liking that version of her more then the original

[@GameAW1]

Camilla wins out though because at least a few cool concepts are mentioned in more detail. For example her support with Niles goes in depth about her life growing up as one child of Garon's many, many wives all using said children as weapons to secure the right to be the queen at Garon's side and Camilla learning to treasure what precious few family she would have by the end of it all. She even flat out says Xander is literally the only child of the Nohrian siblings that is a child of the actual queen, and the rest are from his many concubines. Rowan gets literally nothing.

[@seaunicorn.3.888]

Marth: *Gives long, dedicated speech* Rowan: "i DoN't uNdErStAnD!"

[@Doc51499]

I feel like he would’ve benefited from a support with Ephraim

[@hheecckk526]

Stat wise Roy is the worst lord in the series while storywise corrin is the worst written. Rowen and his sister are both poorly written but that's whats gonna happen in a warriors game where the characters and story arent the focus

[@jedyzichterman358]

hhheeeccckkk526 You say that, but the supports in Warriors actually have a very high detail of love and care put into them. Some are hands down better than any support Fates put forward

[@stephengrenleski1972]

Who would be the best writer for Corrin? How would he/she be written better?

[@hheecckk526]

Stephen Grenleski in terms of a writer I think whoever wrote awakening or echoes would be the best choice considering those are the games that came out before and after and those 2 games had pretty enjoyable stories imo. How corrin should be written specifically is not something I think I could explain without making and entire analysis of his character in a single comment and there are plenty of videos on the topic

[@Rainos62]

so true

[@pokemaniac0551]

Wish Roy would’ve gotten more love from his game but he was pretty bad

[@jpbo98]

10:55 Are you trying to provoke Mamodxx?

[@overlorddystroy4044]

That was my exact thoughts.

[@yunseaweed]

Yes, yes he is.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

i'd like to see a Fire Emblem Lord whose tired and Cynical.

[@sean3920]

So a Fire Emblem that follows Soren basically

[@Underworlder5]

we got post time skip dimitri now. does that fit your criteria?

[@Amy_jo_]

@@sean3920 Soren Emblem: Sorening Soren Emblem: Three Sorens Soren Emblem: The Soren Stones Soren Emblem: Soren Dragon and the Soren of Light Soren Emblem: Soren 776 Soren Emblem: Path of Soren Soren Emblem: The Binding Soren ...I got way too into this. Now all I can think of is Lost in Soren All Alone

[@sean3920]

@@Amy_jo_ don't forget Soren Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy Soren

[@Amy_jo_]

@@sean3920 Oh no! How could I have forgotten?

[@wills4579]

When you’re the only person in the fan base who actually likes Corrin...

[@user-gb4jn4my6j]

Nah fam, I like them too (and Rowan and Roy too for that matter)

[@NeoDeity]

Owain Dark It's hard.

[@StardustYusei21]

Smithie Owain Corrin is ma boi

[@Klonoahedgehog]

I like Corrin because she is the only Fire Emblem character that I actually have fun playing with in Smash.

[@superclovergamer4683]

I like corrin even its 2018 I want conquest to pair with camilla (i ship corrinXcamilla) And i like kana with camilla's hair color it looks cute and kwel with it and most video related fire emblem corrin is hated

[@haveagoodday7021]

When life gives you lemons *_Dont make them a fucking lord_*

[@liarliarplants4hire]

Lemon lord: “ I take great offense you associate me with that other lord.” [Sprays lemon juice into Rowan’s eyes] Rowan: “ AAAHHH!”

[@connerrose6116]

A new MaxHP video! Who knows when this will happen again!?

[@Theblaziken2000]

Dude what the heck is Xander's voice in this game.

[@MaxHP1]

Dude I have no idea what David Stanbra is doing in this game.

[@Theblaziken2000]

MaxHP i don't get why the voice acting is terrible. The voices in heroes is great then we take a listen to this game and yuck.

[@MaxHP1]

Well honestly most of the voice acting in the game decent to pretty good with a few exceptions.

[@ol_fortune9474]

Have you ever hear listen to Hinoka's voice yet?

[@tumblingmuffin1967]

The Blaziken2000 tbh old Xander's voice was one of the only things I liked about him

[@RadiantRegalia]

Personally, I've never really felt anything towards Rowan. I don't hate him, but I don't care about him either. He's just there. He and Lianna are just movesets for me to play as and that's that. I thought it was interesting hearing about them when they were first revealed. Two twins in line for the throne, one wanting to charge into battle to protect his people, the other wanting to expand her knowledge and use it for her kingdom, but neither wanting to accept the responsibility of governing their people, which put strain on their mother and made the tutoring they got from Darios that much more important. But once you play the game... there's not much more to it than that. You hear it before playing the game, you know all there is to know. The supports try to develop them by showing they're open to new perspectives while still remaining true to their beliefs, and the story of the game shows that they learned how to take responsibility for their people, hence why they were both crowned. But despite how they attempted to develop them, the way they did it was very uninteresting and in the end it felt like nothing had changed except their home was destroyed. It's like you said, Rowan COULD have been something, but it ended up being nothing, and the same can be said of Lianna if you ask me. Her saving graces are her gender (for some people anyway) and her lack of an irritating voice, as sad as that is. I really hope that FE16 doesn't end up having a cast of characters that end up as disappointing as they did. The fact that Alfonse and Sharena are far more interesting when they're from a mobile game really doesn't inspire much confidence for characters in the FE games to come.

[@MaxHP1]

I very much doubt that Rowan and Lianna are anywhere close to indicative of upcoming casts in FE16. The first reason is that I would assume they were primarily written by writers at Koei Tecmo and not Intelligent Systems (though I have nothing to base this off) and secondly because unlike most lords, the Aytolis twins are simply a means to an end. The game knows you're here for the other characters in the roster so Rowan and Lianna are only there as a means to get these characters all together and have a reason to work together. FE16 will not follow that same logic obviously.

[@RadiantRegalia]

My concern for the future games stems mostly from Fates, considering the general reactions to it and how uninteresting and/or under-developed a lot of the characters are. If that's the standard being set for future titles now then it's difficult not to be concerned for FE16. I agree with you about IS not following the same logic with the lord/s of FE16, though it's possible they will still look to Warriors for inspiration in some ways. After all, plenty of people wanted that game for a while and it's got a bunch of older characters mingling with new ones. Interactions like that are unique when compared to the other games in the series, so it stands to reason they'd take them into account, even if they're not a focal point. Of course, that's all hypothetical, so who can really say if they will? I want to remain positive for FE16, but whether you include spin-offs I'm finding it difficult to expect much from it. As weird as it feels to say this, I'm hoping they look to Heroes for guidance with characters more than any of the other games. The voting gauntlets and Choose Your Legends polls clearly indicate which characters people favour, and as long as IS recognise why each character is as popular as they are, that could lead to some pretty interesting characters in new games, even if some of them aren't entirely original. And I must re-iterate, Alfonse and Sharena seem far more interesting than Corrin or the Warriors lords ever did. Originally they seemed fairly basic, what with Alfonse being "im a prince who does everything for his people, i dont want friends because i lost mine" and Sharena being "IM HYPER AND HAPPY LETS ALL BE FRIENDS!!1!!", but as the story goes on it's clear to see Alfonse knows when to swallow his pride, learn from past mistakes and trust people, while Sharena is keeping confident and supporting people with her overflowing positivity, which I think is helping Alfonse in particular since his "don't befriend heroes" ideology is in complete contrast to Sharena's "be friends with all heroes" ideology. Even if the Heroes story isn't as developed as the main series games yet, the lords are turning out to be very good ones that can support and build off of one another, and I think FE16 would do well to emulate, or at the very least, build off of that. (Sorry for writing so much it's a bad habit of mine lol)

[@xxChainingHeartsxx]

Grimahim I don't think IS taking inspiration from Heroes is such a wise choice either unless we're strictly talking gameplay. I don't want another fan service heavy game in fe16 thank you very much. ....unless the husbandos recieve same/similar treatment with the female characters.

[@sophiagonzales8974]

Well if ever there's another Fire Emblem Warriors I rather have it as a remake and just add the Three Houses cast who I think in my opinion would teach Rowan about rulership because they got the thrones after fighting for their kingdoms even Byleth would be great to teach Rowan that kings aren't weak like his dad.

[@shieldofwind7241]

Max coming at ya with that Support Science rip-off. Jk Max, great vid. You look like you worked hard on it 👌

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Dylan Cashwell fat Rebecca pro is good

[@xxii_odindank_iixx3301]

lol that endcard with owain. also great vid max really like the backstory for rowan

[@foolishlyfoolishfool5747]

Good video Max I never would have looked into Rowan's character myself cause I don't care for him at all, but after seeing this video... I might hate him even more now. Oh well, it wasn't meant to be. Also if you say Itsuki from TMS is the worst FIRE EMBLEM lord, then *you acknowledged that Tokyo Mirage Sessions is an official Fire Emblem Title.*

[@Wizzkidwas]

Rowan is amazing Alfonse was hated immediately and now people like him alot Give Rowan time (and maybe a little extra development) and people will at least not mind I believe in a similar hypothetical backstory that you made up here, and there's a very clear implication that something happened between him and his father, I love the fact that Rowan wants to protect his family, and during all his supports, he does see the other perspective, so he's not too stubborn and can (eventually) listen to reason. People take Rowan at face value and don't look into him much. He does have a great obsession in knights, something somewhat common in children, and something he's carried on to his current age, probably due unspoken events with his father, I do like that Rowan is a character that is open to HUGE headcanon potential, and with implications between him and his father, i feel like the unspoken story kinda has some substance, especially since Rowan can only open up and express himself when referring to knights, it's his crutch, his one thing he can rely on to not fall apart or feel down about himself/that situation, and by keeping his aspirations, he's able to take his mind off of what may have been a traumatic events that could possibly lead to PTSD, but i'm getting a little far into headcanons here. Anyway, Rowan going for a precise goal is actually very admirable and his constant determination and enthusiasm (and unwillingness to shut up about it) is a part that not many people appreciate about him. Wanting to protect his family is also great, as Xander says. Also in his supports with Lianna, he mentions how he always knows that Lianna or someone else will be there to pull him back should he go too far, showing that he's actually VERY dependent and probably can't handle things himself, especially since he's used to others taking the role of strategist or other things, and possibly implying the true reason he doesn't want to be King, he realises he's much too dependent and wouldn't be able to live up to the task and try it alone, covering his insecurities with a rather charged "Kings are weak" to try and get out of it, though he does raise a very good point that Lianna would be a much wiser ruler. Anyway, this comment is WAY too long, so i'll stop here, excuse my rambling (and possible lack of coherance, usually happens) Also I like his voice, fight me

[@stormslasher9471]

Wizzkidwas ^^^

[@nuibaba280]

You're in headcanon territory there is NOTHING that says Rowan is insecure and he doesn't make it clear. He's a stupid youth who's never faced with a point where he should change like Ephraim who comes to regret ever fighting.

[@BvLee]

The real issue here is that lemon hair. Compare it to the other blonde characters and you'll see it's an utter abomination.

[@Wizzkidwas]

I use a Brash Assault/Desparation set on Alfonse It synergises super well with his Folkvangr as that gives ATK+5 when he's in the BA/Desp range and then with death blow he gets another +6 attack, for a total of 62 ATK That hitting you twice destroys a lot of melee units, especially is he has Dragon Fang or Draconic Aura

[@annie.V.]

Wizzkidwas It’s been a little over a year since Warriors came out and I still don’t like him. He’s still bland and annoying no matter how much I learn about him. I could still be prejudiced as I’ve hated him since he was first released but even then I tend to get over my character prejudices. His supports don’t do very much to make me like him, in fact, it makes me like Lianna more than him. Perhaps I would like him more if he weren’t in a Warriors game as he’d maybe get better writing than he has now but... I don’t think even that would make him salvageable for me.

[@Thenia707]

I actually don't find Rowan's voice all that annoying

[@MaxHP1]

tbh its not nearly as bad in the supports as it is in the main story (particularly the cutscenes)

[@Thenia707]

honestly i like his voice more that Xander's and Hinoka's

[@Chillwave6]

I hate his over enthusiastic style.

[@raiHo15]

Damn dude. This was a really good watch. I hadn't thought about him like this. Side note, can I dislike Corrin's character but still love FCorrin's look?

[@Oldschoolgamer13]

Kyle Benson Yes.

[@MaxHP1]

Thanks And yes, you can. Guilty as charged, myself.

[@alexandrahulett5742]

Stardes1996 Dragon just shut up and beside your getting salty over someone who doesn't like a character that you like just grow up and stop acting so what's the word butthurt please I'm begging of you

[@NotAFakeName1]

Stardes1996 Dragon when I was 13 I liked the final fantasy 13 cast, you'll grow out of this eventually

[@NotAFakeName1]

Stardes1996 Dragon I replayed ff13 at 16 and hated half of the characters that I thought were cool or interesting as a preteen. I probably wouldn't have believed I would dislike those characters at that age either.

[@PopeFireTheStarfireGod]

I like corrin ...

[@Ctrybpkm]

Tbh I don’t hate any of the voices in Warriors except Camilla’s because it doesn’t sound anything like her, even Hinoka’s voice is better than Camilla’s

[@wombochrombo3610]

Ctrybpkm Gaming Both of them are horrible imo...

[@thedoorman6940]

Really?... I actually have the opposite, I think Camilla is better sounding(hell, better than her Fates voice. Misty I feel actually emotes as Camilla quite well) and Hinoka is the awful one(she sounds waaaay to squeaky when she's supposed to be more of an active tomboy like person but Cidney doesn't portray that at all)

[@gurdemandboi3002]

Can you turn the Japanese voices on?

[@Alleiptr]

You can turn the Japanese voices, it made me not hate Rowan that much. but you have to download the Japanese Voice Pack DLC, It's free though.

[@FlyingMintBunny181]

tbh they made Camilla's voice SO much better. Her voice in fates sounded like a gross 50 year old smoker. They made Hinoka's voice atrocious though

[@thedontpanic]

I don't care if Rowan is the most irritating character ever. He's still my boi.

[@tqnpersonal]

Not Roy, but Rowan?

[@startmirca]

I thought Roy was our boy.

[@firstcooommment3675]

startmirca BOI not boy. Lol

[@ermiteninja249]

Well... Here's my opinion I think that Rowan is an empty avatar without any background or any developped personnality. Unlike Corrin or Robin, who are "avatars" for the player who do have a story behind them, Rowan's personnality is banal. I mean, the male hero, the female hero (Often his sister ou cousin) and another friend who complete the trio but who is """"surprisingly""" the bad guy.. .Whoaaaah. (That's almost the same in Dragon Quest Heroes II, another Muso) By the way, when Darios is revealed as a traitor, Rowan is like "No he's my friend he's nice plz don't kill him :'( " THAT. PISS. ME. OFF. I was glad that real warriors like Leo, Xander, Navarre... Weren't as naive as him. *sigh* Anyway : In my opinion, Rowan IS actually the worst lord

[@bladehero8490]

i mean Xander is still pretty naive though

[@ermiteninja249]

Not in Birthright :p

[@bladehero8490]

especially in birthright

[@mariosonic987pac-hero4]

Rowan isn't the worst lord out there. He's alright at times but sometimes gets under my skin. I think he's forgettable in almost every way. He's just so average. Great video you made Max. 👍

[@bluemoon955]

MARIOSONIC987 Pac-Hero no, average is someone like Seliph or Roy. Rowan is an idiot, and probably not anyone's favorite lord, but he definitely isn't average. I appreciate that Rowan is different, even if he isn't that great.

[@mariosonic987pac-hero4]

Blue Moon, that's how generally feel about Rowan. He doesn't have many merits like other lords. He's not all that memorable as a lord compare to Chrom, Lucina, Marth, Ike, Ephraim, Celica, the list goes on. They are memorable in my opinions for many good reasons and a million times better than Rowan. Plus the actor who did Rowan does a better job as Sothe.

[@angelgonzalez4871]

Some people think Roy is bland and has no personality but if you really look into him you can see that he puts a facade a fake personality he's usually seen composed and calm but sometimes he loses he's cool when he finds out Bern turned against him also when narcian ambushed him he becomes mad and angry also in Roy's support with Marcus he also becomes angry when Marcus says he's going to retire Roy says " I order you to stay" is just that many people don't look into Roy's personality and assumes he's just a bland lord

[@nah4467]

Both Ike and Roy have a stoic personality but they do show emotions at the right moments and times to make it much stronger. When Ike sees the Black Knight he goes from a calm/blank/normal sprite to a flat-out angry look. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqumfGWtf9Whlas His and Ashnards Portraits in game portraits: kantopia.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/112portrait1.jpg

[@crawlinggoose]

Roy is said to be clumsy and suffers from bouts of stress and depression, but most people don't read the support conversations, and just think he is Marth II.

[@sukunafromjutes]

How to be Rowan 101: Jump a lot, dramatical speech and have lots of knight outs. Ok, apologies if that was a bad pun.

[@cobalt1089]

*wants to be a knight* *isn't even the knight class*

[@ryuukimanaki5045]

What about Great Knight?

[@sabersroommate8293]

Take a shot each time he says knight.

[@opalyasu7159]

Rowan: I wanna be a knight! Me: so you wanna be one of the worst classes in Fire Emblem? Ok then

[@Bytezor8]

Rowan fell flat with me, he literally feels like those characters that just simply join you and have little quirks to them, now usually this wouldn’t be bad if it wasn’t for the fact ROWAN IS NOT ONLY A LORD, BUT THE MAIN LORD OF THE GAME.

[@YourLadyStar]

As someone who was able to look beyond the nitpicking aspects others love to focus on, I can say that Rowan really is a great character and is extremely underrated. I like that his motives for wanting to become strong aren't for selfish or vain satisfaction, but to be able to protect his home and his family. I like that he has such a positive and easy going attitude that allows him to be able to approach and bond with others. I like that he's willing to accept that there are aspects other than brute force that makes a strong warrior. I like that he's willing to learn and grow from others, even if the task seems rather daunting. And I like that he has the bravery and courage to never back out of a hopeless battle and that his charisma has the ability to inspire others to stand tall in the face of danger. Rowan has a really good line up of supports that helps to reveal the layers to him; supports like with Elise, Takumi, Lianne, and especially Lucina, which is easily one of my favorite supports in the entire game. And I personally don't really have an issue with his design or his voice. Yeah, it's not one of my favorites, but it does a good job at making Rowan stand out when next to all the other lords that share a similar color pallet. Plus the use of bright, flashy colors does well to accentuate his personality. And while his vpice can be a bit high pitched sometimes, I can let that go. For one, it's clear to see that he's a teenager and some teens can have rather high pitched voices. And two, there's only really a handful of moments where he has that high pitch. Other scenarios, most notably his supports, show him with a more natural and easy pitch, especially when he's in situations that require him to be more serious. His voice actor, Nicholas Roye, did a pretty good job at making Rowan sound hype when he needs to and down to earth when he needs to. And while some people would take issue at the fact that he doesn't want to take the crown and would rather give it to Lianne, but consider this: Rowan is a brash, relentless and reactionary fighter who doesn't give much thought into strategizing, has been desiring to grow strong ever since he was a kid, and has very little knowledge when it comes to the political and democratic based aspects that are required for the leader of a nation. You seriously want someone like that to take the throne? Rowan is fully aware that he doesn't have the qualifications expected out of a good king, and he see's that Lianne clearly does, hence why he's always pushing for her to take the crown. And here's the kicker: that's OK. There's nothing wrong with handing over the job you've been tasked with to someone more skilled and knowledgable in it than you. It's the reason why at the end of Birthright Camilla gives the crown to Leo, because she knows that her unstable emotions and habit of going overboard would not do well for Nohr. If there's nothing wrong with her giving the crown to Leo, then there should be anything wrong with Rowan doing the same, especially since the only reason Lianne is even hesitant about taking the crown in the first place boils down to mundane worries. I can understand some people say that Rowan isn't there type of character; that's fine, we all have those character archetypes that we just aren't a fan of. But to say that he's the worst lord in the series despite there beong other lords far worse than him (I mean, let's face it, his own sister gets overshadowed by him), that's going seriously over the top, especially if you haven't even bothered to give him a chance and explore his character. Rowan doesn't rank alongside my all time favorite characters in the series, but he still occupies a very high tier, and I'm very glad that I was willing to give him a chance rather than junk him upon first glance like a lot of people did. Because I can appreciate a lord that actually tries to differentiate himself from the other main characters in the series rather than a certain golden lady that plays extremely safe and ends up being incredibly boring.

[@milkboi2765]

I guess it also means Itsuki is worse smt protagonist too.

[@arepi2067]

What’s wrong with my boy corrin?

[@ccm00007]

Fantastic analysis, which highlights a problem I have with Fire Emblem Warriors' story: they have these templates for a good character in Rowan, Lianna, and Darios. But they either don't work with what they have (especially with Rowan), or they choose the laziest, fastest way to deal with a character. Warning: MAJOR SPOILERS ahead. Darios is the character I want to elaborate on here. I just feel that if they had made him a playable character, he could've brought a really different and unique perspective to the story. Picture this: What if he hadn't died when he did? After asking to die and being denied, after being the reason that the chaos dragon is loose, after killing his own father, after trying to kill the heroes...looking at the chaos he brought forth, he could've had a fascinating redemption story, an approach of "if they doomed the world to save me, I have to become worthy of it." Which would've brought growth to the character, something that, in Fire Emblem Warriors as a whole, was seriously lacking. Instead, nope, as soon as he's good again, he dies. Goodbye. Anyone else see this as a huge wasted opportunity?

[@arobin3266]

Itsuki's the best Fire Emblem lord and Shin Megami Tensei protagonist. tf you mean "worst lord" smh.

[@goldexp1882]

Ren/Akira and Yu would like to have a word with you

[@gregster1016]

Haven't played Tokyo Mirage Sessions, so I gotta ask, what's wrong with Itsuki?

[@kannabergmann4774]

Gregster 101 Nothing. Itsuki is the best lord and Tokyo Mirage is the best Fire Emblem game.

[@RedRobBlaze]

Same typical problem with others. He's just bland. Plus I'm pretty sure the end of the video was a joke, and not Max's actual opinion.

[@kozonalias3339]

Everything

[@HarmonicVector]

He's a river in a dry land. A good Lord in a game that's not Fire Emblem.

[@monchete9934]

Jensi Oquendo THE LAST ACE IN A LOST HAND!!!

[@Thorcarmine]

I benched these two as soon as possible and I have never looked back since.

[@ArthurGaming146]

Despite my dislike of the twins, I would like to see them added to Heroes, if Beast units are added in. Their weapons are effective against beasts in Warriors, so they’d be good as counters if Beast units are ever added.

[@bearzdlc2172]

i wonder if theyll pull a fast one and do a warriors original banner

[@lunaproc4913]

Alfonse has some dignity and is serious which prevents him from being obnoxious.

[@MaggieCandy999]

I love my darling Alfonse. So much so that I S-Supported him twice. 🥰

[@WordBearersChaos]

Hey man I really am loving all this new analysis content you are putting out, but is there any chance you could do an overview of why Fates Characters were underwhelming specifically Corrin?

[@i.fe-ssbu6622]

Rowan: Annoying voice? Check. Typical dream of not taking responsibility? Check. Rowdy personality? Check. Wants to get stronger? Check. Quotes cheesy "motivational lines"? Check. *need I to say more? It's been two years since this video came out, but nothing did change.*

[@nuibaba280]

Rowan sucks

[@michaelolegario6399]

Paid a lot of attention to both his story and ALL supports. I stall don't like him at all. He did have a sliver of redemption in some supports but than everytime he talked about his "weak" father, knighthood, challenging Takumi, etc, he just lost me. He came off to me more as talk the talk but then complain and never actually walk the walk efficiently. Edit: Even though people do not like Corrin due to his/her writing, I on the other hand actually like my idealistic Mary/Gary Stu Dragon Boi/Girl.

[@starfalchion4404]

Michael Olegario The worst thing he’s done was insult tacticians in front of Robin. Also, he told him he’d approve Robin if he could pull himself in a fight (and Robin I think is a better unit in Warriors as well as OP in Awakening and is in Smash so....) Also, he says this in conjunction with bragging about how many enemies he cut down. I get he’s young, but that is just rude and disrespectful. I’m surprised Robin didn’t feel hurt or even angry at how he acted.....but then again every character is forced to like Rowan in the game because writing.

[@Lambla]

I'm glad someone finally touched up on Rowan like this.

[@caim4611]

Rowan looks like Bart simpson

[@caim4611]

@Fozzy W aaaaaaah you little

[@Zorosilver]

Rowan says " a true knight must face any obstacle with ethusiam" to OWAIN/ODIN. I find that the funniest thing, he says that a knight must face any obstacle with enthusiasm to one of the most enthusiastic characters in fire emblem.

[@PantheonFefnir]

I actually think that the worse of the two, voice aside, was actually Lianna. Which is probably a bit mean of me to say, but I really think that at least Corrin and Rowan - as bad as it was handled - were given motivations and characterization that the story/their supports attempted to address. Lianna's given no proper reason for not wanting the crown beside just "not thinking she's the right person for it" (and she thinks Rowan is???) and feels much more passive than either. But that's just me, and I could be wrong, but that's how I feel. More to the matter at hand, aside from the fact that Rowan's backstory is generally untouched beside "sickly father king," I think what Rowan and Lianna suffer from is a complete lack of any story arc. To say that either have one is more or less disingenuous, as neither seem to be particularly active participants in the story. They spend more time reacting to events as they occur, such as where they travel to and what conflicts that occur warrant their intervention. Honestly, the story's biggest issue is that it seems more interested in the crossover than the characters within the story, as compared to telling Rowan and Lianna's story with a bunch of FE characters as the supporting cast. Their supports are also in conflict with the story, in that neither really supplements the other in the way it should. As I've always seen it, the lords should have the main story be their story arc, while their supports either give them some context or otherwise explore non-story relevant aspects of their character. For example, Rowan's lack of desire to become king doesn't necessarily need an explanation within the story and rather can have it in his supports (where he explains resentment for his father's "weakness"), but the story should explore him coming to terms with the responsibility of being king. So where Warriors' supports and story go wrong is that the story gives virtually no time to explore the twins' issues, leaving it all to their supports - thus the ending feels incredibly weak and out of nowhere if you haven't been grinding the right supports (I didn't even access Rowan/Xander or Marth/Rowan in the main story, and Lianna had it even worse because I didn't grind her support convo pairings - that all came later). Something that also feels rather forced about Rowan is that his obsession with knights feel incredibly tacked on despite how much he mentions it. He doesn't interact with Frederick outside of a few scant moments, and if memory serves, I don't think he can support any of the mounted units in the game (Xander aside, but it doesn't touch on that at all). So while it could be given some decent exploration, they never really follow up on it. Especially if one considers that Hoshidan pegasi are perfectly willing to allow males to ride them. Another issue is that pretty much everyone with King fathers never offers him a perspective, beyond Xander (whose father is, well... Garon...). Celica's father was hedonistic and a poor ruler; Marth's was willing to lead from the front and fought with Falchion in hand; Chrom's father was a warrior as well, but his lack of care for the common folk ravaged the land; we don't know much of Sumeragi, but he was supposedly a strong warrior and warmly accepting of Corrin. While not present in Warrior, Chrom knows Basilio and Flavia, who are powerful warriors that are also capable rulers. But none of these people are ever discussed with Rowan, which unfortunately prevents him from gaining other perspectives on how there can be many different sorts of rulers and how being a King doesn't make one weak. I actually spent some time working on a bunch of fan characters and plot changes to make Warriors tell the same overall story while also focusing on the twins a bit more, and I think what would have actually been good for Rowan is forcing him to learn responsibility by himself. Rowan's never really placed into a situation that forces him to step up and accept the responsibility of a ruler, and Darios seems to be the best at coordinating the three. So what I wrote was that during the time when he was separated from Darios and Lianna, he comes across a bunch of Aytolis refugees (perhaps that the Hoshidans are harboring), and without anyone else there to lead them, he is forced to take that position and be their leader. During that time, he changes his views on kingship, and how important it is for his people to have someone to look to during their crisis, which also helps change his perspective on his father as well. That's just an idea I wrote, of course, so not at all canon, but I think something like that could certainly have made him much more dynamic.

[@sophiagonzales8974]

I think that's a great explanation and if you did publish your fanfiction I think Lianna is more deserving to be Queen if Rowan wants to be a knight. I kean I can't really think of any other reason why she doesn't want to take the throne other than her doubt of not being a good queen. I'd like Lianna to be a doubt and full of questions what if... Rowan just needs more perspective other than King Xander on how kings are not weak but if something goes wrong then he's not a good king similar to Lianna one must say but we don't know much about her issue. History mode should've have made time traveling in the FE universe or at least some way a mage or someone skilled at magic *cough* Robin or Lianna take them back to the past of what happened to the dad. Also someone did bring up that Darius wasn't a dlc because they couldn't find a situation for him. I thought of something what if they also go back in time to see why does Darius want the chaos dragon, his secret motivations to spend more time in Aytolis and why he's raised like this. Something of a flashback in history mode would be great to fill in these gaps

[@Chillwave6]

Rowan: I used him in the first playthrough... I used him mostly for Potent Potion -skill after Story Mode. Lianna: One of my favorite characters; My 2nd playthrough had her. She's basically the only healer now.

[@forfaerghus8092]

Coming back here after Book 3 of FEH, I can say that it did wonders for Alfonse as a character, especially when Lif is added to the equation.

[@theperson4684]

Male Corrin: hah what a terribly written character!

[@555redkid]

Yeah, I don’t really like him either, I don’t mind his sister, however she could be better, but of the 2 I like her MUCH better...

[@herowatcher8403]

Congrats dude!Though i still think the anlaysis is unnecessary...but since i'm about to...pfff i'll let it slide*snickers*...just don't tell Kyle he'll...he'll LOLOLOLOL

[@fluffly2037]

Lots of people hate Rowan, want a less annoying character, got Alfonse, want a less boring character XD (I know some people like Rowan or Alfonse so this is just a joke!)

[@anthonymiller803]

I still like corrin

[@kannabergmann4774]

Itsuki is the best lord! Tokyo Mirage is the best Fire Emblem game! The Wii U is the best Console ever made!

[@cyber_baudelaire9962]

Mystic true dat

[@HenryMidfields]

I actually have to agree. Unlike what Alm, Ike, Corrin, or Roy does with Celica, Micaiah, Xander/Ryoma and co, or everyone in general, Itsuki doesn't hog the spotlight. He let's Kiria, Touma, Tsubasa, and others shine in their parts of the story like how Yu and Minako did with everyone in their respective Persona games. TMSFE (and Persona 3-4) actually focuses on the non-protagonists better than the main FE games do - which is ironic when FE is supposed to be strategic teamwork.

[@xs_lverxscorner8716]

At least his sister has a bit more of an interesting design.

[@alextrin683]

1:43 I hope he's referring to Great Knights; the only "Knights" in the FE series that can actually move more spaces than the average footsoldier without assistance from items...

[@skullkid2689]

10:55 yeah dude you got me interested share your thoughts on him

[@MaxHP1]

Perhaps someday...

[@TheJeminiteLaw]

#RowanDefenseSquad 🙏

[@zuzie-zuzu]

TheJeminiteLaw #LiannaGreaterThenRowanSquad

[@emperoralvis6559]

I find it hilarious that people hate Rowan for never shutting the fuck up about being a knight but love Gaius even though he never shuts the fuck up about candy. In fact I think Gaius is more annoying than Rowan.

[@MineNAdventurer]

Just wondering who is Marth ' s Voice Actor, cause his voice sound familiar

[@JR384]

I feel like Warriors should've been the opportunity to give Heroes a non-Mobile Game story. Like, the story concept of nine realms is incredibly interesting, and what's they've done with it so far is wonderful. But Warriors could've been the opportunity to draw it and give more character to Alfonse, Sharena, as well as later Gustav and Henriette. I can't be the only one who'd want Heroes ported-into a Musou-style title, with a playable list reduced to the original character who have been given the spotlight so that it doesn't have to rely on a gacha gameplay style (for example, have the contracts actually have meaning. When you're in each of the respective worlds, you can utilize the respective characters you've allied with.)

[@freudia9123]

Who is the best Lord?

[@olly_lmao]

Rowan can be a knight and king.

[@0axis771]

It really make a lot of sense. In fact, I felt something off about how Rowan talked about his father, who we never saw and was possibly dead. And something traumatic as a child might have been the reason. Kids are very impressionable that really becomes hard to change when it has had years to cement. If Rowan's father failed Rowan in the past, then it would sour Rowan's impression of his father, and he wold want to separate himself from his father in any way.

[@mortiphasm6816]

This is a good video that actually makes an honest effort to analyze and find value in Rowan's character, rather than simply writing him off. I personally like Corrin more than you do, but that's neither here nor there.

[@Alexie]

Hey MaxHP what's your favourite ice cream flavour?

[@MaxHP1]

Lemon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@Alexie]

MaxHP Oof, unusual choice

[@MaxHP1]

the real answer is cookie dough

[@Alexie]

Thank you!

[@aceben8823]

The lords in any fire emblem game are doomed to get worse in every new entry

[@insanekirby1]

Alm and Celica were better than Corrin... though, since Echoes is a remake, that may just prove your point even more.

[@DeltaGaiya]

insanekirby1 yeah I didn’t count echoes for that reason kek

[@piculra7441]

Meaning that Marth is the best because he was the first.

[@Oliver-el5bo]

No I think awakening was good, chrom was well done, but fates sucked

[@kevin-cy3cf]

Edj no story wise ya but gameplay wise o hell no also chrom is just as cliche as any other fire emblem Lord

[@CheyenneGirl]

...I like Rowan... I’m gonna get killed for saying that? Aren’t I?

[@emperoralvis6559]

Eh. Warriors isn't even cannon and doesn't even have similar gameplay to fire emblem so I think you're safe. He's annoying but I prefer him to Corrin.

[@CheyenneGirl]

Emperor Alvis Tbh he is less annoying if you give him his Japanese voice (if you get the free Japanese dlc pack)

[@Alejandro-er7rp]

Rowan is literally Caspar. They have the same exact voice for starters.

[@agbag205]

"Worst lord is Itsuki from TMS" Mamodxx triggered in the background

[@marche800]

It doesn't help that these two have the exact same character archetypes as the Original protagonists from Dragon Quest Heroes 1 _and_ 2.

[@genmoe]

Slight edit the father was told by the bandits to come alone they tortuned the boy and many many days later a rouge knight comes and single handly took the bandits out returning the knight was punished for moving without the kings permission or simply he now looks up to knights and has a grudge against his dad

[@vasya2532]

i have to bleach my ears every time rowan talks

[@schaefer76]

Virgin Rowan vs Chad Owain

[@rupturedsky776]

2:43 Caineghis would like to have a word with Rowan

[@littenfire3563]

Rowan's a dork but that's why I like him... Lianna is a generic elagant princess

[@opalyasu7159]

I think Corrin is a better character in Warriors than Fates lmao 🤣

[@romain8996]

I feel like Corrin is unironically better in every game except Fates, like I’ve learned more about him or her in Heroes or Warrior 1 than Fates. Fates really fumbled and it’s tragic.

[@opalyasu7159]

Well, frick. If you can't handle them at their worst then you don't deserve them at their best. Also, as much as I despise Fates's story, Nyx is cool and it's a way better love story than Twilight.

[@romain8996]

@@opalyasu7159 my love for Corrin shouldn’t make me blind to the flaws and contradictions the story gives Corrin for seemingly no reason. Recognizing how bad he was at first really makes you appreciate how better the writers characterize him in later games. Plus yeah Nyx is very cool.

[@opalyasu7159]

She's like the only good non-royal character in the game. It feels like the majority of these characters have at least a semi decent backstory but their personalities are just one trait. Oboro=racism Effie=loves eating and training Arthur=America 🇺🇸

[@romain8996]

@@opalyasu7159 true, many fates characters are “gimmicky” but to be fair all FE games aren’t shy from making these characters but usually the story is at least strong enough to make you gloss over that. Arthur is the goat tho.

[@gavind1363]

Whoa, I actually forgot these two existed for a minute. That says a lot actually...

[@AbeM.]

Aparently they had to redesign Rowan and Lianna because they turned out basically indentical to the Heroes royals. They obviously had no way to know since they are entirely unrelated people making these games.

[@domicraft6341]

To be fair his personal skill allows you to grind support easily. This makes him to a very important character if you want to make everyone as strong as possible asap.

[@movingstone4910]

5:21 That Xander's voice...it disturbs me...

[@DL-rq2vr]

Or maybe someone stormed the castle and killed his father leaving knights to save him his mother and sister

[@MaxHP1]

OOOOOOOOO Thats a good one! I hadn't considered that!

[@BlueMountain1992]

Max HP analysis? COUNT ME IN!

[@PhantomBlackStar]

I want a Avatar or Lord that fights with his/her Fists. The only person in the War , that can save others , kill and self defends with just his/her bare hands. He/She need no weapon , he/she IS A WEAPON. And uses the MAG stat for Aura range attacks , STR for Fist and Aura close combat.

[@notwesley9180]

My take on the worst lord: I have no room to decide, because I have only played Fates and Awakening, but only because I don't have the resources to be able to play the other games. (Peri and Camilla are shit characters though). However, I can also safely say that from my limited knowledge in this series, Roy is as bland as they come. While I kinda like Corrin as a character, I also know he is also very bland. Corrin is mostly just a pacifist character, and that's why so many issues were forged in Fate's story. For example, why he didn't behead Iago or Hans during his second encounters with him is beyond me. To better compare, let's look at Robin. He got shit done in the end, like plotting against Validar's take over on his mind, or deciding to land the killing blow on Grima. (My most recent point is pretty controversial, I know). But something I have wondered is since Robin was resurrected, would Grima also?

[@friendlyelites]

Honestly don't mind Rowan, or Corrin for that matter either. All the lords have the same bland personality, and the only characters I have pure hatred for are fanservice characters like Camilla.

[@friendlyelites]

I've said this before and i'll say it again now, the only fanservice that should be in Fire Emblem are Marth's legs

[@milagroscolon7254]

friendlyelites I agree with you I don’t mind Rowan but I hate Camilla and Corrin.

[@pixie7349]

...likes conquest corrin.... *throws Rowan under the bus as distraction*

[@KingEndymionrose]

Rowan is just forgettable not the worst lord to bad for him though for Hector and lucina are my favorite lords.

[@JlBUNROCK]

Sleeping Forest For me Sothe, Micaiah, and Ike are my favorite (You can tell what my favorite games are)

[@JacktheLightningRipper]

I don't care for Rowan, but Lianna is adorable.

[@littleanimegirlunknown2603]

6:56 think of it literally, his father didn’t go to haven To hell he went

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Doing research on Fire Emblem for a RP. Thanks for the knowledge!

[@topazfox]

"Take away his voice and his personality and he's just a bland Lord" Well yeah, taking away what makes him his own character would indeed make him bland. Also how can you say either Rowan, Corrin or Itsuki are bad lords when Lyn exists?