Rownd CNC Lathe - Machining for Everybody

Gamepad Controller | 4'th Axis | Automatic Tool Changer | 800 W Spindle Motor | Laser Engraving | Safe and Clean Machining
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[@davidawaters]

You guys think this lathe was designed for machinists or people that want to be machinists? It’s for “makers” who like to make stuff but likely aren’t ever going to be a machinist or engineer (I’m both). Turning and CAM have a fairly high learning curve. This machine attempts to ease the barrier of entry. Who needs chess pawns and other “maker” type parts made to less than 20 microns tolerance?

[@adrianscarlett]

Fine that it's not designed for it, but they shouldn't really be using terms like precision so frequently thought the presentation

[@davidawaters]

@@adrianscarlett fair enough. But for the hobby/maker market they are targeting, it is fairly high precision.

[@bnarit]

@@davidawaters It is useless anyway. the only importance job for lathe is the turing shaft to fit the hole. And 20 um is yet to fail. Even you are a hobbyist, you wouldn't get any thing of this specification. However, I think they misunderstand and did a worng calculation.

[@davidawaters]

@@bnarit they show what kind of parts this lathe is meant for-Chess pieces. And it’s good for other non precision parts. True, 20 microns is no good for typical interference fits. But it would work fine for chess pieces.

[@bnarit]

@@davidawaters if you want chess pieces, you can use cnc milling to make it with 20um accuracy.

[@GotthardJuszvisihak-pl1om]

Is this a lathe for gamers? Lol

[@MSM5500]

_Is this a lathe for gamers?_ for morons.

[@salvadorcalderon2808]

this is really morronic product. Useless in every single way.

[@isekaiexpress9450]

"Bulky industrial lathe" - bulkiness dampens the vibrations if you didn't know. Waiting for reviews, so far it looks like a expensive toy.

[@petittoto7433]

4'000$ is an expensive toy, because it is a toy. And I see only 3 axis, not 4. The shitty Chinese second spindle should not be counted as an axis. And 3'000 rpm for the main spindle is low for this kind of diameter. And CNC or manual, you still need some knowledge to operate this kind of machine. ... Nice project, bad (false) advertising.

[@mercuriall2810]

Would be very interested if it was capable of decent accuracy and repeatability. 20 microns is way too inaccurate for my needs. A similar size watchmaker’s lathe from 100 years ago could do better! 😂

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

fantasma!!!!

[@ixenn]

Uh. .20 microns is 0.000007 in inches. Maybe you mean 20 microns?

[@mercuriall2810]

@@ixenn the full stop in my comment is marking the end of the sentence. I did write 20 microns and that is the tolerance/accuracy of this machine. If it was accurate down to 0.20 microns I’d be ordering one.

[@bnarit]

@@mercuriall2810 me too, and you have to declare for machine tool for Weapon of Mass Destruction.

[@yosyp5905]

@@ixenn why are you converting to an inferior model?

[@tipohungary]

I'm an engineer who works with cnc machines. This looks great for designers and hobbyist and for small batches and/or less details on the part. I haven't seen this drilling or making bores or internal features. Is it still possible? And we engineers all know the main problem is the heat, but the video doesn't show any cooling method. Do you use compressed air? Does it needs compressor? Or does it have coolant liquid capability? Other question is i guees this isn't gonna cut stainless 316 or 143d. What is the toughest it can cut? Bronze?

[@agg42]

"I haven't seen this drilling or making bores or internal features. Is it still possible?" I don't think a stepper motor (main spindle) will have enough holding power for drilling operations. Yeah no servos on this machine. Looks like there isn't enough torque for single point threading either. The more I read their kickstarter the less I'm interested in it.

[@pom4408]

Ok, but if you ain't a chess player... what the purpose ?

[@yosyp5905]

Wishing you guys the best for the project! €6000 for a lathe this size and capabilities is too much for me, I'll stay with my 3D printer when prices aligns. You pay the user friendlyness and neet package, this is a fair price for a startup.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

Next Model: "Rownd XL" - Features a Cast Iron Base (saves you tons on machining time, but give the necessary rigidity needed for higher speed cutting and more accurate surface finishes) 38mm Through Spindle Support. I have an import hobby lathe with this feature. It's completely doable, even on a budget machine, but often gets overlooked. And lastly, a full 27.5" (700mm) between centers. This allows for a legit 24" finished part. I'll let others chime in on possible upgrade features, like higher power spindle motor, larger 4th axis spindle motor, collet holder spindle chuck, part ejection tray, recirculating filtered coolant pump, rotary tool holder for no-stop automation tool changes. There's so much you can do, even with a small platform. Just having a roadmap of upgrades that keep this tool future proof would be fantastic. Other companies have tried this, but have cheaped out with sub-par components, or don't listen to their customer base.

[@AdriWL]

wanted to say that... for 6k I expect cast iron and more power.. for that price you can buy a secon hand industrial grade cnc lathe in germany.....

[@SynthRockViking]

Omg I'm hyped af I need this for my "prototypes" 😫

[@satchelsieniewicz738]

wow 20 microns thats tragic

[@imatveyzasipkin]

20 microns is a lightyear on small diameters, my 80 year old tos lathe can do better

[@kubectlgetpo]

The voiceover style screams a scam

[@kharmastreams8319]

For "everybody". I don't think most people have $5000+ to throw at a desktop cnc... I know I for sure don't...

[@TheNefastor]

Let's be real. It's a toy that probably can't cut steel and probably relies on cloud-based software. Meaning it'll be junk very, very soon. This looks like a repackaged EMCO education lathe from the 80's. I bet it's so overprice you could buy a genuine lathe instead.

[@agg42]

1:28 "The ultimate tool for precision machining".... 50kg lathe, thin aluminum foundation, stepper motors for all axes including the spindle... omg, you have no idea how much this pisses me off.

[@PiefacePete46]

The voiceover is straight from a TV shopping channel. The descriptions are (deliberately?) vague. If anything, it made me suspicious... I think serious machinists would end up with more questions than answers after watching this. I guess it will be followed up with reviews etc. where more detail and conclusions might be found.

[@wholeness]

Best buy a Roland MDX 50 looks like another Kickstarter money grab that won't deliver. i mean cmon guys you have no website and no real use case at that price point.

[@impactodelsurenterprise2440]

Dont need to put down "bulky industrial lathe".

[@gameworkerty]

this ad copy is terrible, it sounds like it was written by an AI. Cool product though. Next time please speak about material benefits and features and not fluffy superlatives.

[@Blozoozozoz]

Was a higher wattage spindle considered? Or does its adaptive passes compensate for the spindle power?

[@DUIofPhysics]

Manual machines have a much lower barrier to entry, and take much less expertise. To be good with CNC, you really need a good experiance with manual machining.

[@volkhen0]

Good for schools. First step in education.

[@MrBricks148]

Sorry, I'll stick with my old iron. This concept is not new at all, you have just reinvented the sherline machines but with less, precision and reliability. Keeping with the benchtop formfactor a Hercus PC200 or an emco compact 5 from the 90s would run circles arownd this. If you want to make a real machine worth buying, and not a glorified toy, make it out of a casting so it's actually rigid, and for crying out loud use ballscrews. "20 microns" enjoy trying to make transition fits.

[@TumbaX]

20 micron are 0.02 mm, are u american?

[@stealthinator00]

@@TumbaX 20 microns for precision application is quite lousy.

[@MattLitkeRacing]

Will you be at IMTS? Does this have a bar feeder?

[@jasondevault5066]

That's it...I'm throwing away my sherlines

[@antronx7]

Corporate buzzword overload. Cringe.

[@LordMejdi]

The pricing (~5000$) is a joke!

[@Festivejelly]

lmao at the price. Just buy a mini lathe and convert it.

[@BikZom]

bro it looks like those fancy cnc machines from the starfield

[@marianh69]

brotato music lol

[@florianbertram9451]

price 6.5k

[@sallenart]

I keep saying it like Christopher Walken..."ROWwwnnd"

[@thomaskletzl6493]

even for early bird so 4k you get a really great industriall machiene if you have the money but not the space go and rent a workspace gosh

[@LaserWoodShapes]

Another company that mis spells it's name on purpose. yawn.

[@fenfire3824]

Looks like good quality, but I think hobby machinists want a milling machine more than a lathe. It is much more versatile.

[@ThePlexman]

It’s got a clamp there for a spindle as well so can mill as well as turn

[@fenfire3824]

​@@ThePlexman yh i guess you can a bit. Question is, can you mill molds for casting with it? I always lookedfor a very smal but multi axies cheap but high precision cnc milling machine, because i wanted to machine molds. The problem with molds is, they are super expensive. First reason of course is its engineering, but also machining quality. everything needs to be perfect. I think it could be done more cost efficient, if you could do it with a very cheap milling machine. This could give you the opportunity, to have more machines at once and can do tests and create more molds simoultanously. This may make the process faster and cheaper.

[@stealthinator00]

Really what kinda machinist uses a game controller or phone to control the machine. this is not a computer game. and if you control a machine with a controller you can ruin the tool or part by moving to fast and or cutting to deeply when machining.

[@aleshkovalev]

With such a size its hardly possible to cut more then 0.3mm aluminium per one feed. So real world parts will take a lot of time to machine. Steel - no way. Looks cool but in that size is a total no go.

[@Z-add]

yornew ck140 with a proper controller is same price.

[@aoalr]

Back this and receive it never. Only costs $3800

[@marinoconstantin5629]

mi piace e voglio capire il costo.

[@drog]

20 microns?.. Thank you for mentioning that right away, just dodged a bullet

[@harrelsontrumpets]

seriously!

[@dmaynor]

is that bad?

[@harrelsontrumpets]

@@dmaynor it can't be true

[@dmaynor]

@@harrelsontrumpets oh, I am a complete newbie to this stuff.

[@MidEngineering]

@@dmaynor 2 hundredths of a millimetre. No, not bad.

[@TuanNguyen-sd1vw]

Does it support Gaming-Controller from Logitech?

[@mysteryMachinePL]

Retail Price ($ 6,550) :D

[@Z-add]

Hopefully this won't be a swissmak disaster.

[@crustybasterd1352]

I wish your video would've explained why it's easier to use.

[@KGwideangle]

LIMATED ONLY BY THE LAW....LOL

[@macrumpton]

$3.7k to $5k is a lot compared to CNC routers.

[@mrechbreger]

Please show parting 30mm soft steel bars

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

yeah... good luck, this is a basically a way less rigid mini lathe, but made of aluminum...

[@mrechbreger]

@@fredrikcarlen3212 they did not say which aluminum was used for the main block. 7-series or just regular 6061... (at least I did not see that). But even then it very likely wouldn't have much damping, but damping with such a mini-lathe? I wonder if there's much that needs to be dampened. 750W servo on X .. that's also a story, I also have a mini lathe but I use a 1.5kw bldc at least.

[@VKRenato]

Is constant surface speed supposed?

[@paguenodris3415]

Can you design a an estreat of some spare parts 440 stainless steel from scratch, I mean create the drawings to have the files and then 3d print them? (no drawings or anything else provided, just a sample of the part)

[@dynamixsystems]

Love it! 😍

[@KaletheQuick]

Im gonna have yo walt for reviews from people i trust.

[@KaletheQuick]

Five grand ain't bad tho.

[@Skunkhunt_42]

20 MiCrOnS!☠️

[@christianpaulroldan4010]

Wow that is really good

[@wesamal6302]

20 microns that's really good for many machining applications the real question is how fast and powerful the machine is?

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

It's made of aluminum... Not very...

[@chandradeepkumar7750]

Great

[@grimsdagger]

How do you generate the gcode for it? I would normally use fusion360, but I'd be interested to see what you guys are using.

[@jacobfalk4827]

Not bad. It will come in a little cheaper than the tormach and way more power than a sherline lathe.

[@ttechtv]

It is Fantastic!!

[@Magushko]

Amazing

[@ElevatedEdge]

20 microns is .0007 in inches less than a thou. Pretty dang accurate for a bench top Cnc lathe

[@ScootyPuff_Jr]

I didn't think it was that bad. I've done an awful lot of work on manual lathes that can't even hold a couple of thou over 12"

[@mangeshnalawade6214]

specifications please

[@curtisnewton895]

this is not a cnc, it is a hard to use lathe

[@russ-techindustries]

This looks awesome!

[@alelasantillan]

What is the max diameter?

[@GotthardJuszvisihak-pl1om]

Is this a CNC lathe for dummies? Cause there is small form cnc lathes (NCT Miniturn) being marketed for several decades now.. Whe I saw the italian toolholder I loled....😂

[@azurehydra]

There a website in English for it?

[@spamspasm8183]

So where do we sign up? I've been meaning to get some sort of small form factor CNC lathe solution for dummies and I mainly need it for engineering plastic round stock so power isn't an issue for me. Not a machinist either. Just need a lot of round plastic stuff so as long as the price is okay-ish I'm interested. I already have a way of making round plastic stuff but more automation would be nice.

[@abramfriesen9834]

Like one

[@kevinnathanson6876]

It weighs 145 lbs and is rigid? OK guys; congrats on your new physics model... And you can make anything you can imagine, as long as your imagination fits in box less than 6" around and ~16" long... How do the people who post this stuff and sell these products sleep at night?

[@ScootyPuff_Jr]

Hell 1450 lbs is awful light for a rigid lathe. I think you can still do a lot with that workspace, though.

[@mrechbreger]

pff... it's made of vibranium, not ordinary cast iron or similar.

[@platin2148]

That cast iron would probably helped a lot more than the alu giant block.

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

@@mrechbreger Yeah, literally since aluminum is known to be completely unsuitable for this application due to it not dampening vibrations... Unlike cast iron which is fantastic...

[@platin2148]

A gamers lathe with pointless spacy looking interface and a accuracy that i dunno for tiny parts seems to be bad.

[@laurenz1337_]

It's accessible for hobby creators who just want to have a simple lathe in their garage workshop without breaking the bank. Seems like a solid product for that target audience

[@olivertaveras9896]

There should be an uber like service where you can upload you machine and stats and people can ask for pricing on stuff they create with an ai app. If they want furniture or something cool for their desk. An ai would send you prints and you could choose to accept the job or not. You'd upload all your tools and it would calculate if you had the tools for the job. It would even help you via vision if you needed it.

[@_Error_404_Goodbye]

I didn’t hear anything about work size limitations, only 20 microns, which is a heavy 7 tenths (of a thou for the newbies). Still though, that’s more than good enough for someone wanting quality automation at home, unless your side hustle is aerospace, then it’s trash. You can chamber a rifle barrel with those tolerances and shoot MOA. I haven’t looked at the price yet, but I’m guessing it’s steep just by the way it looks alone 😅

[@i_hate_google_]

So what's the price for this, how poor do I have to be to afford it?

[@07919596023]

Clearly what every lathe needs is a PlayStation controller 😁

[@stealthinator00]

Good luck not trying not to ruin your tools or to have horrible surface finish with that controller.

[@markosabic2250]

Nice. What is a sound dB range ? Would love to have this in my apartment !

[@paul5683]

If you are cutting plastic, probably not much noise. If you are cutting metals like steel, aluminum, copper and brass , you better be able to deal with chatter. Squealing and squawking, plus that cabinet will be a nice little resonating drum. We had a cnc that ran nice and quiet, but when it ran around 415 rpm it would shake like it was ready to come apart. These things are too small. There's an old saying, you can make small parts on a big lathe but you can never make big parts on a small lathe.