The collaboration between Ian and Jonathan truly is a nice Christmas present.
@skeven09 ай бұрын
Only thing that could get it even better, if Othias and Mae from C&Rsenal made a cameo in this
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll see what we can do for 2024@@skeven0
@a.k47-749 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries Yes!! ❤
@toomanybrews71239 ай бұрын
It's my favorite team-up of all time. Just two guys who love the mechanics and history of firearms to the degree that they've made it their careers. There are few things more wholesome than a couple of nerds getting together to nerd out about their area of interest. Happy holidays, everyone!
@timbob11459 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, cheers
@creanero9 ай бұрын
"It's in a shiny white carapace, but the gun inside is an M-2." I think nothing exemplifies the modern plateau of firearms technology quite like an AI-capable robot carrying a century-old gun.
@outis70809 ай бұрын
To be fair, the M2 is the M2. We'd probably be using them until we stop using bullets altogether. And even then, someone may decide to convert them to fire lasers or whatever they end up using the future.
@kilianortmann99799 ай бұрын
The Emperor protects.
@Cookynator9 ай бұрын
Personally, I'm pretty sure the M2 will go on in service to the eventual heat-death of the universe. Einstein said he thought WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones, but I find it hard to believe that an M2 Browning wouldn't still be knocking around there somewhere. Equally, the most believable part of Warhammer 40k for me is that in the grim-dark future of the 41st millenium, humanity has yet to find a better weapon to put on the pintle mount of a tank than the M2 Browning (aka the heavy stubber)
@FakeSchrodingersCat9 ай бұрын
@@Cookynator If nothing else the M2 barrel would make a decent club for WW4 even after all the bullets run out in WW3.
@StainlessPot9 ай бұрын
Browning has truly figured out the pure essence of gun.
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
Ian: "Can guns be art?" Kate Winslet to Ian: "Draw me like one of your French guns."
@bobdrooples9 ай бұрын
Art should make you FEEL something. You really feel arterial bleeding.
@jairhiodalthor41379 ай бұрын
Bewtyfool joke
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
@@jairhiodalthor4137 Sorry, I'm too old to understand that one, even looking it up passes over my head.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
👏
@T4gProd9 ай бұрын
Jeremy Clarckson had a take on this about cars and the Alfa Romeo 8C. Art is supposed to be just art and completely useless in anything else. He argued, that the car is so bad, but so spectacular looking, that it has to be art.
@therogers44329 ай бұрын
This is *THE* most civilised gun video in the entire history of youtube, and I thank Jonathon and Ian for making it because I really needed a calm, gently humourous and mutually respectful almost-37mins of intelligent conversation between two absolute legends at the very top of their game to ease me gently into Boxing-Day after the chaos of a family Christmas, so thanks guys 😊👍
@carlettoburacco92359 ай бұрын
A Brit and an American, a pint, Gin, books, guns...... and a ton of deep geekiness: what could go wrong? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Magnificent.
@faeembrugh9 ай бұрын
Given their surnames, I am slightly disappointed they're not drinking whisky.
@spectral59399 ай бұрын
'A Brit and an American - A Pint, Gin, Books and Guns.' Sound like the title for a book.
@daegnaxqelil27339 ай бұрын
not any british and american gun expert , please
@Minotaur-ey2lg5 ай бұрын
I don’t know. Last time this happened Europe was looking rough.
@jamesmendoza4562 ай бұрын
How old are you 😂 can’t tell if young cringlord or boomer
@B3RyL9 ай бұрын
I have to point out that there is one movie where someone fires a minigun from the hip in a believable way. And that is Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2. But not because it's Arnold firing the minigun. It's because he's the Terminator. A Terminator is basically a walking weapons platform. When standing still, like in the movie, it's a 600-pound gun turret with built in actuators and recoil dampening mechanisms, so the Terminator firing a minigun is definitely within the realm of believability. So points to James Cameron for firearms accuracy, in a roundabout way, I guess ;)
@jonevansauthor9 ай бұрын
Fair about him being a Terminator, but IIRC in the scene the bullets all hit where he wants and he's been ordered not to kill anyone so he blows up all those cars which errr... no.
@OverwatchSniper9 ай бұрын
In AvP1 (the old pc game) when you fire the mini gun it has massive recoil if you try moving while firing
@Ylyrra9 ай бұрын
@@jonevansauthor Film is pretty clear that he's deliberately aiming very slowly and obviously: he isn't being accurate, he's giving people time to realise where the danger zone is and to run away. He's not avoiding killing anyone because he's "that good", it's because he's telegraphing "don't be near here".
@timbirch49995 ай бұрын
Loving the super serious debate about the Terminator films! 🤣
@wolfgangrecordings4 ай бұрын
if we're talking believability rather than accuracy of use, because they're different things, then i'd argue that blaine's "ol' painless" minigun in predator also works (first time it was done?). he's a hulking badass so it's fitting that his weapon of choice is also a hulking badass, and in the hyper-macho (and yes, completely recoilless) universe of the film it doesn't even seem particularly over the top. hell, even mac uses it after blaine gets killed, with no issues whatsoever. at no point have i watched predator and thought the minigun was too much. also worth mentioning is that in t2 that minigun is in sarah's cache of weapons in mexico, unmounted, meaning in jim cameron's mind a human could indeed fire one from the hip
@un1d9 ай бұрын
Unparalleled collaboration between the only two youtube gun guys who aren’t weird about it
@TherapyGel9 ай бұрын
That's the best way I've seen someone describe it lmao
@whiskeytuesday9 ай бұрын
James and Hop aren't thaaattt weird...
@ledocteurgonzo9 ай бұрын
Kentucky ballistic ? what the others guys again ? 😅
@SirAroace9 ай бұрын
Gun Nerd (them) vs Gun Nut (crazies)
@SidIcarus9 ай бұрын
@@ledocteurgonzo Weird
@slavikcc9 ай бұрын
I was hoping Jonathan would do a 30 minute review of a Christmas Cracker whilst showing trigger discipline, but a 36 minute discussion with Ian of Forgotten Weapon works just as well. :D
@jic19 ай бұрын
Is "trigger discipline" with a Christmas cracker not holding both ends at the same time?
@Verchiel_9 ай бұрын
When i first saw the video i thought it'd be just that. Not disappointed still
@slavikcc9 ай бұрын
@@jic1 That's quite a very pertinent question that I'm sure Jonathan can surely answer.
@amhaglos9 ай бұрын
@@jic1 It's where you push instead of pull.
@timbob11459 ай бұрын
@@jic1or just holding the middle?
@kevinkearney9029 ай бұрын
This needs to become a yearly tradition I love these two interacting
@MajesticDemonLord9 ай бұрын
This is clear and objective proof that the Firearms community must have been really good this year to get such an awesome present from Santa.
@heccsclips33198 ай бұрын
oh we have been VERY good especially in the US getting to keep many of our gun rights
@sjs96984 ай бұрын
@@heccsclips3319 uuuuh, whut?! maybe try to *not* have more mass shootings than most active warzones next year?
@mcinteer199 ай бұрын
Two of my favorite gentlemen having a lovely discussion and fun with Christmas cracker! As for the extent that design has influenced military adoption choices, I give you the 1950’s and US Army Ordnance. They refused to consider any cartridge that wasn’t .30 caliber. They stacked the deck against the FAL in trials. They were against anything that didn’t look like what they knew as a rifle.
@Fulgrim29 ай бұрын
That Tiffany revolver looks like a legendary drop from a game.
@low-polyhexagonalrat9 ай бұрын
Literally it looks like a skin for Battlefield 1 or smth
@michellelehky23749 ай бұрын
DLC only item.
@kimjanek6469 ай бұрын
@@michellelehky2374pre-order Bonus 😂😂
@SHADOWFRENZY929 ай бұрын
It is not nearly ugly enough for that.
@TheDeadmandillon9 ай бұрын
That '89 Tiffany Revolver was by far THE definition of an artistic firearm. Gucci damn sure ain't gonna top that ever.
@madisbacks19459 ай бұрын
Ghasp! As a German, how can you not consider this overwhelmingly beautiful language a vessel of heart-wringing romantic poetry?! The old lords of sturm und drang are rotating in their graves as we speak. Just you wait until I have the technical language and writing skills to prove you wrong.
@muadddib8 ай бұрын
Calling german the most unromantic language in a world where d*tch exists broke my heart
@jaggoff69499 ай бұрын
The crossover we were all waiting for!
@Pigness79 ай бұрын
I mean theyve done videos together on the forgotten weapons channel years ago
@njones4209 ай бұрын
@@Pigness7 and a book or two :)
@timbob11459 ай бұрын
@@Pigness7yeh but I for one am always waiting for more. These two should defo star in a Simon Pegg and Nick Frost film... I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again and wait patiently.
@mplsyrp23 ай бұрын
Robert A. Heinlein said: Art moves you emotionally. Great art moves you greatly. I like that definition.
@nathandc9 ай бұрын
I now really want this to be a Christmas tradition going forward as this is awesome!!
@thethesaxman239 ай бұрын
I second this!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll see what we can do
@Irskin9 ай бұрын
Thirded. This made my morning.
@j.murphy48849 ай бұрын
Make it so @@RoyalArmouries
@Kinsect1019 ай бұрын
Maybe with a diffrent guess every time?
@woliveiraxs9 ай бұрын
Man, this has been so much fun! Merry Christmas everyone! :D
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you too ❤️
@jimsvideos72019 ай бұрын
Also, Ian's left-handed cycling of a right-handed bolt is performance art. If you haven't seen it, go look.
@terry79079 ай бұрын
You must not have seen many left handed shooters using a bolt action rifle.
@paulmurgatroyd63729 ай бұрын
@@terry7907 As a lefty I feel that most of us would rather forget the experience... 😆
@conorjohn4909 ай бұрын
As a righty who's operated a truly beater car it's much like getting into said car by reaching through the window and using the interior door latch.
@Rashed12559 ай бұрын
2 legends in the same room, a rare moment.
@driftertank9 ай бұрын
In regards to the realistic firearms handling in the movies, particularly "Heat": A friend of mine was in the USMC when the movie was released, and they had a viewing in the barracks. Apparently during the scene when Val Kilmer is suppressing the police, when he goes to cover and does a textbook rapid reload, my friend's Gunnery Sergeant paused the film and something to the effect of, "You see that? THAT is how I want to see you [fine gentlemen] reloading!"
@bostonrailfan24279 ай бұрын
technical advisor for that scene was Sgt. Andy Mcnabb, an ex-SAS soldier. Val was a heavy method acting fanatic so would have learned how to do it right…it showed
@sierracharlie12729 ай бұрын
Heat and Collateral. Vincent (played by Tom Cruise) was Wick before John Wick.
@Gramstaal9 ай бұрын
@@sierracharlie1272 Those are definitely the two that came to my mind as well.
@UnknownOps9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the movie John Wick is doing the same thing HEAT did back in the day, with the tactical reloads, weapon transitions, and stuff.
@Cats-TM9 ай бұрын
I finally decided to watch Heat after the mentioning in this video and, wow, as someone who has never fired a gun before, the usage is bloody accurate. Like, it is so well thought out. Love the fact tha the police only use single shots during the shootout so as not to harm the civilians and the fact people wait to take shots just a moment so as to get a correct sight picture. Such small details that add so much to the film. Occsionally the police were not using proper trigger discipline when they should have been but that is peanuts. And could be explaned by the stress of the situation.
@Mike-cp7sj9 ай бұрын
The Luty should be an example of a designer work of art, since it shows that even someone with an access to Home Depot can make a firearm. Also aesthetics are really important to a firearm, I was told that engravings usually add a +2 to accuracy and reload speed 😄
@thethesaxman239 ай бұрын
I’d like to see Johnathan and Ian have a discussion on Elbonian arms!!
@kepanoid9 ай бұрын
I didn't know that I need to see this!
@davidbrennan6609 ай бұрын
Having them competing for the contracts and attempting to undermine the others product would be interesting.
@davidbrennan6609 ай бұрын
Ian “tilting “ on the last question ..... the American abroad or anyone not Japanese in Japan. His answer is correct.
@thethesaxman239 ай бұрын
@@davidbrennan660 I’m liking this idea even more!
@BF-uh4rz9 ай бұрын
My favorite firearms KZbin historians! Or just firearms historians!
@pickeljarsforhillary1029 ай бұрын
All I want for Christmas is 1 day unlimited access to the Royal Armouries collection.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
How will we fit it all under the tree?
@Fulgrim29 ай бұрын
Very carefully.
@pickeljarsforhillary1029 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries It's a very big tree
@Trenaime9 ай бұрын
under a sequoia@@pickeljarsforhillary102
@P3x3109 ай бұрын
Put the tree on the roof of the museum?
@bigjimmyshits66739 ай бұрын
Rare to find someone who is so knowledgeable on a subject whilst also having the charisma and public speaking skills to verbalise that knowledge so well. Here we have 2 of them. Could watch this all day, great stuff.
@therogers44329 ай бұрын
Yup... ^THIS^ 😁👍
@davidreddington43819 ай бұрын
This collab is the pinnacle of perfection! We need this more often.
@davekennedy63159 ай бұрын
One of the firearm/tactics advisers brought on for Heat was ex SAS i believe. In an interview he talked about one tactic actually seen in the film towards the end where De Niro is after the bad guy that executed the cash in transit guard (resulting in the team having to kill the other guard as a witness) De Niro has traced the scumbag to a hotel that hes staying at and goes and kills him. The police are alerted and Pacino (i think?) actually comes up behind De Niro pointing a gun at him and asks him to turn around and face him. Instead De Niro backs into him so Pacino can`t shoot as he can`t ID the guy in front of him, De Niro then spins round at the last second knocking the gun away and escaping. The SAS advisor explained that this backing up was an IRA tactic they successfully used over the years to escape as the soldier can`t be sure the person in front of him is the target until he sees their face. This backing up causes hesitation and allows the target to get close to the soldier, so they can then spin round most likely with gun in hand.
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
That's right, it was Andy McNab.
@davidspence55679 ай бұрын
Sssh Steven Mitchell 😉
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
You'll be telling me next that "SAS" doesn't stand for "Special Army Soldiers".@@davidspence5567
@andrew69789 ай бұрын
I've read that Val Kilmer's mag change time was used as a benchmark for some US personnel somewhere, God knows how true that is.
@ash00sufc9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t Pacino but yes great moment, glad Waingro got his commupence, absolute creep
@8bvg3009 ай бұрын
Well done boys, you answered the most important question of all and a massive boost in respect for Ian! JAM FIRST for EXACTLY those reasons. You can tell he's a man of logic and detail 🤛
@Stevenwave-7 ай бұрын
I like how he answered in more than a "it feels wrong" kinda way. He had a scone engineering answer.
@fabiogalletti86165 ай бұрын
@@Stevenwave- Indeed, it's an argumented hands-on deciption of the mechanics of a cream/jam object.
@kolega4ever9 ай бұрын
Well, just came to say that I had a bad day and Jonathan, the saint of British Bullpups, and Gun Jesus as always managed to get my mood better. I love seeing both of you discussing
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Glad you're doing a little better and hope you're ok
@kolega4ever9 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries thank You kindly! Happy Christmas and maybe (likely!) see you next year at the Museum!
@timbob11459 ай бұрын
Here here 👌
@malusignatius9 ай бұрын
Speaking of silly stuff with miniguns, I remember seeing the out-takes for Soldier (1998). There's a scene where Kurt Russel's character rises out of the water and hoses down a bunch of bad guys with a minigun. During one of the takes the recoil makes Kurt slip on something underwater and instead of 'hosing down baddies' he falls back into the water, the minigun arcing up into the sky as both gun and actor disappear under the water.
@MrMarkZachary9 ай бұрын
Considering Ians love of hats, slightly surprised he didn't wear a christmas one.
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
Should've put on one of the paper crowns from the crackers. 👑
@Mr_T_Badger9 ай бұрын
@@Getpojkeagreed, I’d have paid good money to see Johnathan and Ian wearing those silly paper crowns.
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
@@Mr_T_Badger Yeah & I thought Ian would've taken the hairband Jonathan got in his cracker.
@P3x3109 ай бұрын
He is wearing a Christmas hat in the thumbnail, though.
@AleksWorkshop9 ай бұрын
The collaboration we didn't know we CRAVED
@9HoleReviews9 ай бұрын
this was really fun to watch! 🎄 Merry Christmas to all!
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz9 ай бұрын
It warms my heart to see much respected firearms enthusiasts watching others in their field. Merry Christmas guys.
@crusaderanimation69679 ай бұрын
0:23 This has "I Tip My Hat to You. One Legend to Another" vibe
@danieljob31849 ай бұрын
My pick for the gun acting Oscar would be Robert Patrick. In T2 prep he trained himself not to flinch or blink while firing because his character (T-1000) would not do that. Awesome performance! 😲
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Unlike poor Arnie who never trained out his flinch. That run as well.
@ostsan85989 ай бұрын
I really dig Jonathan's shirt. He'd definitely survive a zombie apocalypse. Pretty certain Come and See used live ammo when shooting over the actors. I wouldn't be surprised if the foregrips of the EM-2 and AR-15 weren't designed to be aesthetically pleasing. I'd like to see a review of the "viking atgeir" that Ian and Jackson made.
@LDSG_A_Team9 ай бұрын
I could easily have continued watching this for an additional 3 hours. Please do more of this! Make it a yearly thing or something!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll try!
@LDSG_A_Team9 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries WOOHOO
@therogers44329 ай бұрын
Yup... ^THIS^ 😁
@BornofIron9 ай бұрын
You know that fuzzy feeling you had as a child when the house is calm, the light background noise of a stop-motion holiday flick echos around, the warm smell of freshly baked cookies fill your soul and there's not a single care in the world because your winter holiday is finally kicking off? Well this isn't that, but there is a fuzzy feeling of spiked egg nog and THE surprise of the year on my home page and there are just some things that are just as merry as an adult. This deserves only the best right-before-I-sleep viewership, cheers to you both!
@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O9 ай бұрын
More collabs with Ian from Forgotten Weapons please!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We hear you
@meme__salad9 ай бұрын
10:14 I actually had a similar experience at the range. My brother and one of our friends were out shooting with me when my brother stepped on a 9mm round he had dropped earlier, and the primer got pressed into the gravel and detonated. He didn't get injured because the case just blew apart but needless to say it was a bit of a shock lol
@ianray88239 ай бұрын
THE EPISODE WE NEEDED GUN JESUS AND JONATHAN THE BAPTIST
@danstotland63869 ай бұрын
Sacrilegious, but well said!
@0xA9F9 ай бұрын
Somebody will defintely send you a "Liebesbrief an das Sturmgewehr"
@Herbstmann9 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love a podcast series with these two! Happy Christmas Ian, Jonathan & everyone else at the Royal Armouries!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll look into it
@vipeyv22809 ай бұрын
let's gooooo@@RoyalArmouries
@Herbstmann9 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries Exciting, thank you!
@jimread9789 ай бұрын
Great collaboration, great synergy. More chats like this would be appreciated. Kudos.
@michaookami41139 ай бұрын
The two best Guys We have in this Expertise
@GT-wo2oj9 ай бұрын
The key to winning a Christmas cracker: not pulling. If you don’t pull and just let your opponent pull, you’ll win 90% of the time.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We're only in the comments for the Christmas cracker advice.
@xnopyt139 ай бұрын
10:03 I think the craziest round detonation is probably where someone’s ejected 9mm case bounced off of the wall and hit another 9mm on the table at the perfect angle, detonating the round. They got it on video iirc.
@KevinRibelMusic9 ай бұрын
This is the Internet we deserve and the Internet we want!
@thekrackenthree53809 ай бұрын
I could listen to these two for 6+ hours.
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
Talking about handling guns in movies. I remember reading an interview with an older time firearms prop master from Hollywood. He said that of all the actors he dealt with only maybe two wouldn't either flinch or most annoyingly blink when firing a weapon. He thought the greatest at it was Clint Eastwood. So it seems that "Magnum Flinch" didn't get to Dirty Harry even with his Model 29 revolver 44 Magnum.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
I wrote this question and was thinking the boys would say Eastwood. Think we must have read the same interview.
@Getpojke9 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries We must have. 😁 Though I have a tradition of watching a war movie every Christmas day. In "Where Eagles Dare" (1968), where Lieutenant Schaffer/Clint is dual wielding MP40's during the "Broadsword calling Danny Boy" scene he does get a bit blinky when letting loose. Then again he's in a confined space & there must've been a fair bit of back blast. Sorry for being geeky, I've watched it many, many times.
@michaelo5665Ай бұрын
I feel that any skill taken to its highest level can be appreciated as art. Great engineering, cooking and woodworking to name a few examples, even when not embellished with overt artistic flair, carry an inherent elegance and captivating quality that can only be compared to a great work of art.
@CornishMoose9 ай бұрын
I knew Ian was a man of good taste, even before he said he'd put the jam on first 😂
@Sean-ot4zq9 ай бұрын
For the Gatling/Minigun thing in movies you are 100% correct with the only thing being plausible is when it's something like Terminator 2 because the T-800 has literal hydraulic powered arms
@1248dl9 ай бұрын
The actor that might have the most practical experience and made statements about gun handling, Audie Murphy. Bob Stack was a rated skeet shooter, too.
@donjones47199 ай бұрын
The Audie Murphy choice can't be beat. I salute you.
@bostonrailfan24279 ай бұрын
Lee Marvin, James Doohan, Charles Durning, R. Lee Ermey, Michael Caine, Christopher Lee just to name a few who served in combat, three were even wounded in combat…Stack might have been a skeet shooter, but those guys shot Enfield, M1, M14, and other guns while under fire
@brendanliamgill999 ай бұрын
How about this as an example of old guns being art. in my opinion is seeing the machining residue like seeing the areas that were cut on a milling machining or seeing the lathe work on the round parts like screws and firing pins. To me its art because the amount of skill it takes to operate the old machine's to consistently make that same part over and over again. To me its like looking into the past in a way you are looking at the work that someone did a century ago. I find it neat.
@snideaugustine21439 ай бұрын
This is absolutely increadible. Loved this discussion and the game! Merry Christmas lads! EDIT: Jam and then Cream. FFS
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas! 🎄
@Gralgomar9 ай бұрын
What a great way to cap off the year.
@wavecreatures9 ай бұрын
On aesthetics I wanted to interject on a great video Ian did on the Whitney Wolverine. That Atompunk swooping Space age pew pew belied it’s .22 calibre in my humble opinion.
@England_Is_My_City9 ай бұрын
The crossover we’ve been hyping for
@lapmate929 ай бұрын
Can you guys please start a regular conversation-/podcast-format? I could listen to these conversations for hours.🙏
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll look into it
@6401gabriel9 ай бұрын
On the guns as art, there are also the guns as wall mounted art. A friend of mine had a set of black powder pistols and long guns, plus some sabers hanging on top of the fireplace. It looked really good also because his house was a bit old.
@dhoffnun9 ай бұрын
Ey, the two most wholesome dudes in all of gun youtube together at last - I'm here for it.
@Kefuddle9 ай бұрын
Oh dear Stumgewhr, How I am glad you are here. As I write this at the front in this glorious fracture font. Ending the next bout with your staccato shout. But oh my, you are hungry for lead from that steel box from which you are fed. And though my shoulder does ache, what a fearsome pair we make.
@roygardiner22299 ай бұрын
Even as one who is not a gun enthusiast I can certainly appreciate the aesthetics of guns. Some look just elegant, balanced, something that could almost be a fashion accessory. That was an interesting account of a dropped round igniting, particularly Ian's explanation that it was the case rather than the bullet that "flew". I suppose that follows from Newton's Second Law of Motion or Conservation of Momentum.
@mouldy94669 ай бұрын
Honestly the fact that it's even being discussed to openly here is refreshing to see, it's nice to finally talk about an aspect of firearms that goes without discussion because "it doesn't matter how it looks, just that it works!", even though looks definitely to matter and make an undeniable impact
@Trevor_Austin9 ай бұрын
Here’s a weird bit of info. When I used to fly for a living we could carry 5kgs of ammunition per passenger as hold baggage, no dangerous goods paperwork required. We just needed to be told. That meant we could legally carry a total of 500 kgs of ammunition. The most complicated firearm in terms of paperwork and police involvement was a handgun, kept in secure container, for the Royal Armouries that we flew into Leeds Bradford.
@j.robertsergertson45139 ай бұрын
My Dearest Bren Ten I've love you for decades ! I was told you were fragile and unreliable but you've never failed me even after thousands of rounds , you're my faithful companion and partner. You ask so little and give so much joy and security I know we will have many more years together I love you .
@HumanityisEmbarrassing9 ай бұрын
Bravo sir. Bravo. A true poetical romance story.
@HumanityisEmbarrassing9 ай бұрын
Dear SA80, you looked amazing when you were new, futuristic and cool. Despite what people thought, you didn't copy the EM2. We had such high hopes for a new British gun, and you went to all our troops, but straight away you showed your true nature, and everyone said "oops" What a bitch you turned out to be, you broke our soldiers hearts, if it was hot or cold, sandy wet or dry, they'd have been better off throwing farts. When you refused to work (almost every day) they couldn't even use you to beat the enemy away. Your fragile plastic body, your wandering point of aim, no wonder you top the lists in the shit guns hall of fame. To add a final insult, to this tale of woe, it took the Germans to fix you, our historic wartime foe.
@brianspohn59829 ай бұрын
I feel absolutely spoiled watching these two together . Thank you !
@michaelw22639 ай бұрын
The crossover we don't deserve!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Oh you definitely do
@z-trip54579 ай бұрын
High production quality + two of the most enjoyable firearm experts on the internet. You've outdone yourselves!
@peterfromaustria7249 ай бұрын
The crossover of the century!!!!
@ItsPassing9 ай бұрын
I know everyone else is just gushing but truly a warming gift from two lovley people
@tomas.87119 ай бұрын
A wonderful holiday treat from two knowledgeable and cultured gentlemen. Highly enjoyable; I wish I had been there. Merry Christmas to you, Ian and Johnathan!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Was a treat make this with them - equally top guys on and off camera.
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
And to you!
@bruceinoz80029 ай бұрын
A "retrospective" with John Moses Browning would be educational. From refining crude early lever-actions 1887 shotgun to the 1897, the A5 ' Rem-11, the M2, 1903, 1911, BAR, in just over forty years. Interesting to see some of his "toolroom" prototypes, including the "rejects" in various museums, including the 'rejects". As for "art" in design and construction, the classic C-96 Mauser is a serious contender. And to all; a safe and great Christmas, or whatever your "festival" is.
@sherky72079 ай бұрын
Incredible video, love the dynamic between these two legends! Please make this a yearly thing!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll do our best
@Swisba9 ай бұрын
the Christmas gift I didn't ask for but I'm happy to get
@peternicol34399 ай бұрын
Jonathon Ferguson wielding the Cracker, Christmas Mk III***
@Goc4ever9 ай бұрын
An amazing crossover that lived up to the hype, this is a Christmas miracle. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Ian and Jonathan🎁🎁🎄🕊🕊🎅🎅.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
A Merry Christmas to you too 🎄
@lukeanatr9 ай бұрын
Great conversation, always happy to see Ian and Jonathon together!
@c1ph3rpunk9 ай бұрын
This was truly excellent, but May I add a request for next year? Add Chieftain and Bloke in please. Q: “if you could design a muzzle loading tank canon, how would you go about it”
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We'll see what we can do
@nerd1000ify9 ай бұрын
Your Q is easy to answer, the Churchill AVRE tank did have a muzzle loading gun (technically a mortar). The weapon in question fired a very large cylindrical explosive bomb, nicknamed the flying dustbin. Reloading was done by traversing the turret so the muzzle of the gun was over the bow gunner's hatch, he could then open the hatch, reach up and shove a round into the barrel without exposing his entire body. Obviously very awkward, but it was a dedicated bunker busting weapon so a rapid rate of fire wasn't a priority. With a longer gun we could mount the turret at the rear, and lower the gun into a recess in the front of the tank for loading.
@nerd1000ify9 ай бұрын
Following up, I got this wrong- the AVRE gun actually folds in the middle so the shell can be loaded vertically through the hatch. So I suppose it's the world's only break action tank.
@NexnDystxpia9 ай бұрын
Been waiting this collab for years, ever since I discovered them both. Ps. Happy holidays Ian, Jonathan and everyone else.
@matthewgallagher84919 ай бұрын
Gun Jesus is in a mod for Fallout 4
@erebostd9 ай бұрын
What an early, but amazing Christmas present! Thank you for that, merry Christmas, and many regards from Germany 👋😁
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Frohe Weihnachten
@ADwOS9 ай бұрын
Fantastic episode guys! I could listen to you both chatting all day!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it. There is an uncut version available here: www.weaponsandwar.tv/most-recent-uploads/videos/x-mas-special-final
@ADwOS9 ай бұрын
@@RoyalArmouries Best sales pitch imaginable. Subscribed!
@gflo27819 ай бұрын
I do watch a good bit of firearms stuff, but Jonathan and Ian's videos just have a certain amount of chill and expertise about them that I appreciate more than the crazy stuff. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this pop up today, great watch, just wish it was longer! Looking forward to more of these collaborations!
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
You can watch the full, unabridged version at History of Weapons of War: www.weaponsandwar.tv/most-rec... Use the code XMAS23 for 20% off an annual subscription.
@tankj0ck3y9 ай бұрын
The two gents have really spurred my interest in firearms mechanics and history. This collaboration was very entertaining. Happy Holidays!
@audacity609 ай бұрын
The aesthetics question. I would nominate the Nazi replacement for the Luger. They insisted on an exposed barrel, so they chose the Walther P38, rather than a Browning style with the spring & slide enclosing the barrel.
@Immopimmo9 ай бұрын
My two favorite guntubers do not disappoint! Merry Christmas!
@redsnappa78379 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas guys! Clint Eastwood always gives good gunplay in films; the defective rifle exploding in Ken Loach's 'Land and Freedom' felt quite realistic. You tactfully did *not* mention the accidental use of live ammo in 'Rust'
@vanvino40749 ай бұрын
This colab got my thumbs up before I even clicked play.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
@andreascook66427 күн бұрын
My autism is pleased seeing the two of you in a video together.
@WhiskeyTape9 ай бұрын
Was hoping for two of my favorite gun channels to do a collab for a few years now. That's one of the best Christmas presents possible.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
It's not the first, but it might be the best!
@Mukhambiel9 ай бұрын
Seeing these guys together is awesome! Happy Holidays and best wishes from germany!
@Mr_T_Badger9 ай бұрын
I have to admit I was saddened a couple weeks back where Ian made a cameo as the New Keeper of Firearms and Artillery, only to run away. I have now had my crossover experience and am happy again. Happy holidays to everyone from here in Canada. Oh and for me: cream on one half, jam on the other half, and eaten separately.
@RoyalArmouries9 ай бұрын
We were just warming you up for the main event 😉 Merry Christmas from Leeds
@umusuuk9 ай бұрын
as someone who doesn't know guns by name like that, would have liked if the editor would have inserted pictures of various models mentioned in the conversation. especially in the section about gun aesthetics.
@DiscoBallGaming9 ай бұрын
this is the BEST Christmas gift EVER, I didn't know I needed this to happen but I'm watching the entire thing, this is absolutely wonderful
@davithmorrisey99809 ай бұрын
Thank you for hosting, Jonathan and RA. Ian is such a GENTLEMAN. You are both great educators.
@thedevilinthecircuit14149 ай бұрын
Beer and gin: check. Guns: check. All you need are a couple of cigars, and this could be The Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Channel! Merry Christmas!
@donjones47199 ай бұрын
Alcohol and guns don't mix, but alcohol and *talking* about guns can mix very well.
@Justanotherconsumer9 ай бұрын
They have the crackers, so I guess Explosives is also a check.
@bostonrailfan24279 ай бұрын
as long as they keep the explosives to sparklers or fire crackers
@MentalCrusader9 ай бұрын
It's so nice to see them both together
@TheLastWhiteKid9 ай бұрын
Black Hawk Down always stands out as some of the most realistic firearm useage in film
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
It's fantastic.
@bostonrailfan24279 ай бұрын
…don’t say that to vets who were there or who served, apparently they botched the story badly in a lot of places
@jonathanferguson12119 ай бұрын
To be fair, he said "realistic firearms usage". Which is correct. @@bostonrailfan2427
@weaselwolf9 ай бұрын
I have a Beretta U22 Neos that I got in part because it looks cool...it's also a great little 22 plinker with a lovely easy to swap carbine kit that kind of reminded me of Megatron