"RTZ is F*CK1NG TRASH" -Saberlight speaks up after leaving Shopify

source: twitch.tv/saberlight00
tags:
#dota2
#saberlight
#arteezy
#gorgc
#gorgcsmash
#gorgcrage
#gorekdoto

[@oliviawallace3636]

"rtz is trash-" *muted due to low behaviour score* xd

[@SlowDownImWhite]

rtz's ego with no wins at TI kicking another player of the game, a tale as old as time.

[@jaysonabayan8705]

no wins at majors too

[@seeker530]

His ego comes from a place of popularity the fact that he gets same viewers as topson when he streams feeds into his narrative

[@pillowcase5576]

@@seeker530 I put the blame on these youtube clip channels who clipped these useless manta dodges in the 2015-2016 period and 1hp survive after killing heroes. It really gave people a false perception of how to rate him as a player to be honest.

[@seeker530]

@@pillowcase5576 he definitely is a strong player not among the greats tho bt who knows quinn was also viewed as a good player while in NA bt he turned out to be God tier when he moved EU bt the fact that Rtz wants to coast on the ez qualifiers just so he can make it to these events shows that he doesn't believe he can win he just wants to be there

[@yurios7797]

​@@seeker530 rtz needs to come out from his comfort zone, he's so stubborn staying in Na while most of his former team player achieved something outside of NA team, sorry for bad english

[@Say0cean]

at first I didn't think that he was serious at all, then the second half came and yeah, he's 100% serious on this. It's not a Bulba problem, it's an RTZ problem

[@lewisbirkett4428]

Seriously bulba is still coaching

[@Elemen11T]

nah Bulba draft don't help either

[@knkaitlog]

bulba has strong connections in NA region thats why he is still like a "manager". similar to Kuku in SEA, he has many friends that he can recruit easily with one call despite having dogshit results in the past few seasons

[@Georgiovaultis]

this is my first time hearing that arteezy is the captain, but it does make sense that if you're in a team with the captain being the problem you have no other choice but to leave

[@crls2849]

​@@Georgiovaultis so rtz = kuro?

[@Zeosth]

Damn. Bro i thought the video title was clickbait

[@bruh-rl7ul]

Arteezy, never even won a major let alone TI. Yet has had a steady position in large orgs for the entirety kf his career.

[@goodisgood153]

Tbf he did win so many tournaments back then which would've been considered majors BEFORE majors concept was even implemented. He did have a successful trackrecord but that was back then

[@CA-oe1ok]

MVP group stage last TI.

[@nasetheboss]

Kekw not knowing that he has won like 10 tournaments

[@what1111]

maybe his fans got him where he is at all this time

[@doanliem2458]

@@CA-oe1ok so fanboy rtz are this low alr ?

[@masoncomes6783]

That final was embarrassing, Shopify just stood around doing nothing for half the game.

[@hehehe9618]

HE SAIID IT!!!!

[@JAFrk]

I think anyone who backed rtz up to this point is delusional or has been delusional. Up to now, all of his past teammates has had huge success with other teams...while rtz has nothing for someone as coveted and hyped as he is. No majors, no TIs. Look at crit who left the jail, 4 months, 4 tier1 tournaments first places.

[@anonymousperson8903]

Yes, because Abed, IceIceIce, Thiolicor, and Nightfall, Saberlight have had greaaat success... And after leaving RTZ Fly, Ramzes, Sumail, S4 Not a single one of these have won a major after leaving RTZ. And only some had won before-hand. Cr1t is an aberration and, while he's a good player too, he's literally on the best team in the world. That all being said, I agree RTZ career has been very disappointing.

[@bknight3391]

I think people are forgetting that Cr1t- was on the OG squad that won Frankfurt Major 2015, Shanghai Major 2016, and Manila Major 2016. He was already an incredibly successful player by the time he joined EG. RTZ is also still one of the most successful Dota players ever. Three 3rd place TI finishes, tied with iceiceice, Kuroky, LaNm, and Zai for the 2nd most TI appearances, 5th most games played at TIs, 6th most games won at TIs. That's elite performance. He may have never won TI or a Major, but is he less successful than someone like Loda, who actually won TI?

[@morusmacroura6148]

He got no ring and can't carry big game.

[@hegeliankid1226]

⁠@@bknight3391He was good when position 1 used to be linear-mechanical and you had almost always the same function in a game; be good at laning, last hitting consistently, itemizing appropriately, and joining at the right time to push high ground. All of that didn’t require much of decision making during mid game or open late game situations, which he is just trash and has not fixed his issues for too long. So, since the map changed his lack of adaptability and quick conceptual elaboration and calculations became more obviously trash. For me he was always trash, as I never thought mechanics were that valuable or interesting but strategy and creativity. If Saber makes it to TI and rtz keeps trying to play pos 1(he should try 5tbh) it would be just a bad taste joke

[@algeria6902]

Doesn’t matter crit is pos 4 any pos 4 in his place would have won that he just got lucky to be with one lf the best teammates dozens of players left and had not succes just one which is crit all the others are struggling u tried to make a point but u made it worse it’s the worst argument to use

[@rechroniclePlays]

finally a light of truth from saberLight

[@vincegonzalez7736]

If team bald managed to qualify for TI while gorgc is their carry that would be hillarious.

[@charlesmartel6108]

not gonna happen =)

[@MrAdormalio]

anyone have a good connection with a professional lip reader? I gotta know what he said muted and for all we know he switched to czech during it

[@travisbeastwood7712]

They have to disband aftrr that 0 - 3 loss against noun.

[@lakshmanshiva1686]

streamer RTZ soon

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

i think hes been streaming more recently because he knows this is his fate. make vlogs with dove and stream

[@shyeluk]

you called it ahhaha

[@bunkersloco9559]

The first time Arteezy doesn't join TI now even in NA... Idk why they can lose against nouns.

[@ThatNorma]

huh? nouns is a much better team than SR, so what is your point?

[@bunkersloco9559]

@@ThatNorma idk you are talking based on what, but Shopify have a better winning history on past matches against nouns.

[@scalarian1976]

​@@bunkersloco9559...with a different roster

[@ThatNorma]

@@bunkersloco9559 currently nouns is a much better team, regardless of this last result. also rtz is a total disgrace, completely washed up, inflated ego to the point saberlight had to come out and say he was the worst in the team with the most terrible calls. speaks for itself

[@bunkersloco9559]

@@ThatNorma idk if you say nouns is a much better, its a stretch. At most they are just underestimating their opponents. They always lose in the final round. But if you say RTZ has an inflated ego maybe you are right. It's rare to see Saberlight to talk like that.

[@phoenixspirit62]

you look RTZ farm he is fine, but watch in a team fight is just bad and sad, you can't just win farm and clicking anymore.

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

I see him make so many weird mistakes in teamfights. his POV while farming - his camera is spazzing out max APM - then in fights he just doesn't use BKB for 5 seconds and focuses the closest hero and dies.

[@bzibubabbzibubab420]

You focus on everything and you failed to focus on just one thing

[@iorichew]

nowday dota everything talk about teamskill, farm to win meta is gone very long time. rtz 5-10k lead but solo kill by enemy pos3 or pos4 many many time, or he cant solo kill pos3 pos4.

[@Nevermorepicker]

rtz game is bout maintaining gpm

[@shgalagalaa]

Yes valve has killed all individual carry potential and mechanical gameplay as a whole over the last 4 or so years. It's astonishing some people still think its a serious competitive game :D

[@nimrodnix1577]

i hope a team relocate to NA region to dominate it and punish rtz

[@seeker530]

Anyone who moves to NA from stronger region clearly shows they don't believe in themselves and just want a shortcut for a participation trophy

[@xavielgaram]

Nouns already kinda did that

[@CrucialflyHD]

RTZ and saberlight cant work together. Insania btw: How can you lose with this guy (saberchad) on your team?

[@sc9433]

I remember sumail and abed both giving Artour the look of dissapointment.

[@jasonRhawt]

He's probably the king of choke next to bulba.

[@TheSolarClipz]

Been screaming this from the rooftops for years

[@conspiracy8119]

I remember RTZ dark willow farm the whole game and of course they lose.

[@EliJang-dq3yf]

rtz is way past his prime, his playstyle has been studied and countered by his fellow pros.

[@Stinger32]

BFR you don't even need to study rtz move just play casual game and wait him choke💀💀

[@XabasGasino]

Not pros, public too 3 man gank under 5 min 😂😂😂

[@markahmid6812]

Imagine being so suck for a long time but still manage to join a top dota 2 org, just because your RTZ. Low skill and High ego but it doesn't matter as long as your RTZ the org wants you so badly. Marketing strategy at its finest!

[@Zer-us4wq]

He was a beast during mid, switching to pos1 and goes down hill

[@franzywaaanzy8947]

Who’s here after SR got clowned in Elite League 😂😂😂

[@hainamnguyenle7385]

Rtz need someone like puppy, kuroky or some crazy team leader who can change his play style. Rtz always play with low hp

[@InJunoWeTrust]

I've always said Shopify should pick up Satanic or Pure.

[@fuu6490]

Pure already comforted in Tundra WCYD

[@tamamyakreb]

When sumail was in eg with arteezy; he was asked a question in TI9 i think; the question was: “What is the biggest obstacle between you and your 2nd ti champion?” And sumail replied: “Arteezy” 😂

[@infinitygauntlet101]

When you have RTZ and Bulba are the reason why is NA dying. Orgs keep supporting these dogs knowing they will get shit results.

[@girassena]

he is me after got kicked from group chat

[@obigspritztkenobi487]

technically hes right. rtz mainly stays cuz of the name he has. just like dendi did in the past. but hes way way behind the new wave carries.

[@yfrank5919]

saberlight should be the offlaner tundra had

[@thereignman0120]

RTZ, Sumail, Miracle.. and their other "batchmates" from other countries cannot keep up with the young guns anymore.. yes, they are still good players.. but not on the same level during their peak.

[@aakashpoojary3968]

Miracle still has the IT factor. Sumal has been stagnating in mid with his old playstyle, cant comment much on rtz as i am not much interested in his playstyle.

[@shina8767]

What wrong with his hand... Parkinson?

[@josephito27]

Damn, rtz should have stuck to streaming when he was super demanded back then reaching 20k views easily, he could have become a sort of xqc, now bro barely pushing 1.5k ☠️

[@ShortReelsFromMoss]

I couldnt even watch those games to support my boy Saberlight because of Rtz Guardianu gameplay

[@reecejoyce5183]

'Rtz is trash' *plays with gorgc* 😵‍💫

[@Georgiovaultis]

he literally has no choice, every other org have a fixed lineup already

[@rtzdidnotwinti1044]

imagine if they actually qualified for ti that would be hilarious

[@seeker530]

Im pretty sure that stack can be described as "sitting at home nothing to do no real prospects might as well play to make content" although no real prospects doesn't apply on saksa.

[@sousukeaizen1299]

are we gonna listen to saberlight said gorek is trash..after they lost open qualifier?

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

LOL gorp is a meme for a reason my guy - you are among the 0.01% of his viewers that think he's good. of course hes 10x better than most of us, bt compared to his bracket it is hilarious to watch the difference. i wouldnt care, it's his toxic ego that makes everyone cheer for his loss. that and his rage/excuses are genuinely hilarious to watch.

[@xnakama3319]

Rtz need this as a fuel to become better again

[@danydaher3918]

He has had fuel his entire life

[@fuu6490]

RTZ gonna joined OTK soon as a professional streamer 😂

[@SammyLame]

Hey bro just want to tell you some important info. The concept of your yt, (clips from streamers) is very risky bcs anytime your channel can be deleted. The source you put is nice but some creators wont care and just report you channel and delete you. Thats my experience as many channells were deleted in last month like ez dotes, dota contentional etc.. I just thought you should know that before wasting too much time grinding grow on ur channel

[@JasonT-mz2zr]

He probably doesn’t have the balls to say this directly that’s why he made a video lol

[@TheWeecheng]

RTZ vs KURO who will win?

[@JAFrk]

Kuro has a TI win, I trust that he will at least beat rtz in his current state.

[@furquankhizar2496]

Kuro has literally won TI and multiple top place finishes in TI and majors. He's just washed up. Rtz didn't even start laundry day 😂

[@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436]

Also keep in mind that Kuroky is originally a pro Dota 1 player ( just like Puppey ). They've outlived many other pros during those times where Dota was still primitive

[@uselesschris6951]

​@@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 yes Kuro was a Dota 1 pro, so it's understandable that he's washed now but RTZ is only around a decade in his career even Puppey is outplaying him RN, bro is just BAD

[@c4n0]

Kuro and rtz were teammates and kuro doesnt like rtz either

[@enaielei]

Bet Abed left for the same reason :D.

[@nagi8010]

I mean if rtz can't have enough space to just farm jungle for the rest of the game and right click enemies without being controlled they wouldn't win so, yeah basically if the team wins it's his team doing everything from babysitting him all game and keeping the game afloat fighting them 4v5 at the same time Lmao. Almost all the games it's abed who's doing everything and rtz still can't do his one fcking job properly

[@randomguyatfarm]

Abed is a good midlaner, as a Filipino fellow fan we were hurt when we see Bulba keep on picking storm spirit, RTZ fucking so damn farm and dying in creeps and paper during clash..

[@neoaquatic9054]

he was king of mid in sea sever

[@yoyoniggsniggs6487]

He's meh as a midlaner, so far he has no impressive successes after shopify, and he still pick storm. but, i do see his potential as a great carry, at least much better than rtz, he's excellent with farming mid heroes like TA and DK, has lightning reflexes and he's great at getting in and out of combat while dishing out damages. Shopify had the best results when they prioritize farm on abed while rtz are given something like razor.

[@AlbertLoh-hr7gt]

Was*

[@825worker]

Lezzgo goreeeek

[@cr78925]

well, this shows me the lack of ethics and quality of saberligth, speaking now after they removed it 😂😂, although rtz has not won anything it will still be a top and above this mediocre one😂😂

[@hkmrsrg1367]

Is he joking or is this for real? Rtz is having a crisis or some sort I think. It's like he doesn't know what to do other than "farm, get strong" and that's it. Feels like he's just what in pubs would be called "autistic" as he doesn't flow with the team. Having said that, Bulba and draft don't help either. I think there's more than RTZ is trash but yeah, he's been playing bad.

[@Doflaminguard]

Pos1 captain lmao like Tundra with Save. Let support be captain since they see the game more than pos1 focused on farming.

[@qwertyasdfg4932]

U mean pure?

[@Doflaminguard]

@@qwertyasdfg4932 yes pure, wrong mention lol.

[@CarlJung666]

Someone fanboi said he's great because he can manta dodge 😂😂😂

[@urekmazino5125]

if only they listened to ceb...

[@floyddominique3731]

Wait, He meant trash as a human or trash as a player?

[@GasmMnM]

As a player, he mentioned on his stream of the Nouns vs SR game with Quinn that RTZ was a nice guy outside of the game.

[@hegeliankid1226]

@@GasmMnMThey were being sarcastic

[@friscoberce1963]

they could have decided to saberlight for pos 1 then MC pos 3. he did well when he played for a team as pos 1

[@ivanpaijolin9128]

But saberlight also played well as liquid sub as pos 3

[@Stinger32]

lmao that's why Quinn is trashing him

[@toroddlnning6806]

its all rigged, this guy is trash too, atleast noone can say because its all rigged. the best dotaplayers are probably playing in archon pubs unable to prgress because they are trapped in fixed 50 winrate matchmaking algorithm

[@3xk890]

Imagine if Saber, Fly, Cr1t and Abed formed a team after they left SR w/ RTZ and bulba and win something....

[@OninMusic]

Saber has qualified for TI with Team Bald, Fly qualified for TI with Nouns, Cr1t destroying everyone with Falcons, and Abed finally gaining momentum with Blacklist

[@primostasis]

@@OninMusic Saber has not qualified yet only on open qualifier for close qualifier

[@OninMusic]

@@primostasis my bad, *qualified for closed qualifier

[@EliJang-dq3yf]

other than saberlight, they are all doing well. and I'm pretty sure saberlight will do well post-TI shuffle

[@3xk890]

@@EliJang-dq3yf most of them are struggling to qualify this season. FLY and ABED were basically hit or miss on qualifying to majors this whole season and gets eliminated quickly whenever they qualify. its only cr1t whose been doing REALLY well. Saber w/ team bald wont go far in the qualifiers..

[@stefanusantoso]

Theres no RTZ curse, hes just actually not good enough

[@kanishkakudaliyanage5375]

I mean, who in their right mind decide to team up with RTZ, dude's a walking overrated, badplay magnet. If there ever was a dota 2 event for just farming, maybe just maybe he will win, but otherwise his map movements and team play is outright trash

[@josapathlapiz4722]

I hate this out of context clips. Everyone who knows Saberlight knows he does this all the time. If you watch the whole actual clip, he doesn't really mean it. But it's partially true, he just thinks that him and rtz has a different philosophy when it comes to playing dota, which is something rtz needs to relearn. However, it's not a secret teams keep employing him albeit his lackluster performance over the years. Just his popularity and the sales he brings to the team is enough to offset the amount of wins tournaments will make them. So, can you really blame esports orgs that just want to make easy money? As an rtz fan since 2014, it's sad to see him turn from a very hungry player that wants to be the best into this non-trying personality earning as much money as he can. There's times he doesn't seem to try to win at all. How many times have we seen him farm the sidelanes and die alone? Overall, a miserable situation for his team

[@exdaedalus]

Rtz is washed but LuLba's draft are fucking archaic. He thinks he is some sort of genius putting together off meta bs. Just kick Bulba please

[@bayusantoso8252]

I saw the game and 3 game their drafr aint good

[@nabidisla.5086]

Sharteezy

[@NakcaFN]

Shartour

[@Mayhamsdead]

At least he's not plagued with Mason's mental handicap.

[@HgHgHgHgHgHgHgHg]

RTZ choker for years

[@BulgarianDota]

Arturo should just stick to slots and gambling... not been relevant last 10 years on pro scene 😅

[@albert9194]

Gorpee > RTZ 😭

[@lhantful]

Not sure what rtz fans see in him. Egocentric. Are you guys admiring him just because of his looks? I remember at one point Sumail indirectly flamed rtz through his profile by changing his name. I forgot what it is but pretty sure it's for rtz. He will never leave his org or bulba cause no one will pick him up unless he matures. The guy is hopeless as a pro. Even ana tipped him for playing a bad anti mage lmao

[@shgalagalaa]

I'm not sure if you are trolling, at most 16 years old or just incredibly stupid

[@Dubbsss13]

This video didn’t age well. Turns out saber is also trash. Easy 2-0 by PSG Quest.

[@shermanleeyh]

Yumm tasty drama

[@SifGuguk]

BASED Clap

[@shgalagalaa]

A failed streamer and a pro who won nothing yapping to try and stay relevant ig

[@DuyTaSama]

Rtz is so overrated, i dont know why people like him, a player at that age without any Ti’s tiltle

[@xavielgaram]

No major either lol

[@blueatlas6744]

Rtz is the legit proof of a very pro player can play in pro scene without teamwork skill, dude ddnt even work on that.

[@tokyotoronto6028]

yes, he trash like kuroky and puppey too.

[@rthur7720]

yopaj si way worse than rtz

[@toomuchcheeze6598]

Yes rtz is bad, but saberlight is still an atrocious offlaner. Dude only ever came close to winning anything on SR, where he was average to shit for his entire tenure. He was made fun of on NIP for being dogshit, moved to NA to play t2 dota for a year or two, got interest only because of his brief stint in entity when pure got removed, which is the only time we've ever actually seen him be world class before he fell off a fucking cliff that he still stands at the bottom of today. Btw his performance on team bald vs quest was awful, just straight up feeding with baffling plays. Stick to the streaming saber! You got a lot more going for you beating up on rank 1500 eu players than you do in pro play.

[@Haruthegoodlookingboy12]

No rtz is too trash like dendi need to retire from doto pro scene

[@shafiquliqmal1655]

Dendi is not trash. Watch ur mouth

[@Haruthegoodlookingboy12]

@@shafiquliqmal1655 performance is the proof bro

[@sir.sleepsalot2711]

Gorek doto xff

[@hudanradifan]

wtf

[@bxxy9]

Huh ? Lmao

[@Jalee4852]

Even gorpee seems like a Div 1 player compared to RTZ

[@BabuncinaJones]

Rtz is trash tho

[@alm5851]

LOOOOOOL

[@EKruger-xg4rx]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@JustJybe]

lmao

[@petaludas88]

Nice drama for being in the spot . you just dont trashtalk like this for an ex-teamate . instantly, this makes you trash.

[@captaincool6785]

TRUE

[@ivanpaijolin9128]

Genuinely was rtz fan. There literally tons of godly manta play. Armlet toggle. And farm faster than anyone. Bro alr washed up now. Literally having identity crisis and play... uhh. Idk... bro dont even have signature hero anymore I just hope saberlight got a team that can enable him. Actually good pos 3 in current era but somehow never flourish.

[@Real18800]

God is this guy acoustic or what,

[@ThatNorma]

acoustic? like a guitar?

[@32f32f]

I think he meant autistic