Rudder Wobble (yoyo) and Incipient Stall in War Thunder

[@onezerotwo]

useful 12 years later, thanks for making this mate

[@cptairwolf]

I'm glad you found it useful. I should probably remove it and make an updated one as the flight model has changed quite a bit.

[@onezerotwo]

@@cptairwolf likely true, but that yaw wobble has been driving me nuts and I've been fighting with my joystick for days trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with my settings... ...turns out (thanks to you!) I know it was pilot error and my movements are getting much more smooth. I haven't played a flight sim in ten years and all that knowledge drained away! Thank you again!

[@vashiiq2093]

mine just makes my plane goes back and forth back and forth side to side up and down sometimes a circle

[@cptairwolf]

To avoid the stall you want to try and use rudder sparingly with the corsair. Unfortunately this is really difficult if you use keyboard control. If you use the mouse, let the nose of the aircraft catch up to your move point more closely. Too much distance between the two will put you in uncoordinated flight.

[@mikep5027]

Even when flying straight without moving the mouse it will wobble.. even some of my bombers do it.. can't hit nothing like this.. any help?

[@tejanoalradiosanantonio7804]

time 11 22 on your video that is what you call a Whip Stall what you say is a tumble correction there Whip Stall On a plane there is all kinds of Stalls If you point your Aircraft straight up you will come to a point where your engine will come to a stall as you go up and up the your air speed will decrease when your reach the point where you have no more speed your plane will stall as well. the trick is to Maintain your air speed to avoid stalls or the ground may smite thee

[@Jesses001]

I have a similar problem, only I do not have to touch the rudder at all. It is just always flopping left and right wildly. I thought it was a control issue. Maybe I need to break out my old joystick.

[@battlecruiserna]

i'm becoming pretty boss with the mouse aim, but my main regret is that i cannot afford a proper rig because desktop joysticks just don't cut it. basically how i play mouse aim is just like this, pop flaps, regulate throttle, and with the keyboard i finish maneuvers i start with the mouse, like rolls and loops and turns and what have you. even on planes that only have landing flaps. i'll find myself opening my landing flaps and maybe even dropping my landing gear depending on how they alter

[@uupabli]

Do you still play warthunder?

[@battlecruiserna]

@@uupabli lol no i dont play that shit

[@uupabli]

@@battlecruiserna lmaooo you gave up after 11 years

[@battlecruiserna]

@@uupabli the grind was too annoying, i'm not going to put up with that shit or get baited into pay to skip.

[@uupabli]

@ reasonable, what br did you get to before you quit

[@luisantonioconforto]

Hi Air wolf. I am flying using a sidewinder ffb2 and i use my rudder smoothly but it keeps very hard to control the slide because of the bounce. I fly fore real a private pilot in single engine planes and i have never seen any effect like this bounce wile using rudders, the ruders are very precise wen you use them smoothly. If you are involved in the game please try to take an extra atention to this matter. I feel like uninstalling this game for this is very annoying when flying. Thanks a lot.

[@Liweed11]

this ain't my problem...my problem is that at ANY movement of my rudder causes it to yoyo to both sides and NEVER stop

[@kalsten2236]

hey i know this is old but how can you put small amounts on your rudder using a mouse i was trying to figure it out on my ps4 but i can only get it to relative control

[@Mr.DOS_]

Always when I'm getting height my rudder starting turning (left/right) but i always doing nothing i m not pressing Q or E... Also i cannot use my mouse to fly because after this issue with rudder my cam is like I'm pressing C to look. I cannot fly with mouse. I m solving this problem by landing on airfield and change airplany by pressing J to jump of my plane on airfield... :( please advice and sorry for my bad language... I'm not native English speaker...

[@Ingvar_the_Varangian]

Ok man, really nice video...but i have one question. How i can use Corsair in fight, in dogfight on small alt level? I think that is inpossible, because stall is huge problem when you are in dogfight between mountain, between many enemy airplanes and if you dont have enough alt level...tnx for help

[@thehighground2151]

I AM NOT AWARE of exactly my prob...my planes prob is going back and forth constantly going back and forth, sometimes up and down....Help me please! i cannot aim correctly with this doing soo.

[@cptairwolf]

I tried to find the video you were referring to but couldn't, link it and I'll check it out :)

[@thestoneddog]

i am having real trouble stalling in the bf 109s if don't baby the stick and avoid using rudder i will go into uncontrollable spins if i dip below 400km seems to me like its way to easy to do it but i dont see anyone else having the problem so maybe i just suck

[@danielprobst7732]

Im a begginer and when i join the battle my plane WONT STOP SHAKING NO MATTER HOW FAST OR SLOW I GO! HEELLLLPPPP

[@Oregons]

now get joystick and try to do the same...

[@LeoPh0ne]

Hi Virago25, I notice you control your rudder with your mouse in this video. Could you explain how to set that up? I can't figure out how to do it in the ingame control menu. Thanks!

[@krogaan]

how did you do this with mouse and key or with joy ?

[@joshperkins7698]

I do too if anyone has any idea how to fix please let us know.

[@xXmiomoXx]

You're FPS is low. Change to lower display settings. Once FPS reaches under ~13/14, that happens.

[@Ingvar_the_Varangian]

Tnx man, I learned, and I think it is a great plane...very cheap to repair and very efficient.

[@romanyashin9145]

hey man great stuff but i think your tips will only help players who are new to the simulator mode battles or realistic battles & use full realistic control, you sound like you have more xp with flying then just from war thunder great to see ppl who actually know what they are talking about! cheers

[@Qwerty48121]

literally.... in a stall or spin, hands off the stick, the plane will correct itself

[@thehighground2151]

I DONT KNOW

[@ialien2077]

The graphics are fantastic, too bad the controls totally suck.

[@JustSomeGuy489]

I personally think rudder wobble is a stupid idea for arcade battles. The whole idea of arcade battles is to forget logic and do completely unrealistic things. Its a great idea for realistic battles though.

[@KotsChopShop]

actually, I don't think that's what kats are talking about (unless they're a bunch of drama queens lol), as what you've shown are basic physics, realism and manageability as you've stated.. what people (or I) are talking about is an overwhelming yaw yoyo which you haven't shown in the least - it's unmanageable in a dogfight and greatly intensified when in first person view - and I highly doubt many have a legitimate problem with this while using the children's settings (mouse) --> Pb_Wv03OYOY

[@MrLonerist]

ME TOO! WTF IS UP WITH THAT?

[@yippeethreeeight]

Geez man. Please turn down the game sound. It makes it hard to hear your voice. I can hear the airplane sounds very well. That plane doesn't fly like a normal plane. First, when you add rudder, the wing on that side loses lift. Gaijin models that. However, when you press the rudder and keep it pressed, the wing on that side continually is losing lift. Therefore, that wing will continue to drop. The way the game is modeled, the wing drops momentarily, but then stops. That's not right. Second, the stall is completely unrealistic. Airplanes don't stall in that manner. Airplanes don't flip nose over tail that quickly. They can be made to do that, but the horizontal stabilizer slows that movement. I'm not griping about what you're saying. I'm griping about Gaijin's flight model.

[@cptairwolf]

first off I can't go back 9 years in the past and lower the game volume so sorry for that lol. Second of all, I was showing how to recover from an "incipient" stall which is precisely what would often happen to this aircraft in the game back then. It's a real phenomena that occurs when you stall in a climb and one of the wings stalls first causing the aircraft to violently roll in that direction. look it up. I'm not trying to be difficult, it's just something I learned while in flight school and noticed they had it in the game. Mind you they are far less prominent when you're playing mouse and keyboard

[@donemigholzjr.7344]

Very difficult to listen to. Never repeat yourself again in any way... ever. Please.

[@thomasrose6962]

i agree it was hard to listen to

[@alexfilter2379]

play simolator mode NOOOOBS