Rudest Things Fans Have Done To Seventeen

[@urfavoritecarat]

just so y'all know. i'll NEVER forgive y'all for treating Mingyu, Dino, Joshua or any member like you did. NEVER. Mingyu got treated like shit for false allegations, "carats" who left because of that will NEVER be CARATs for us all.

[@yumi-suzume]

i can never agree more... u can do or say anything to me but not seventeen... they're my family... my inspiration and what the "fans" did broke my heart... i don't even know what to say... seventeen arent perfect angels but they went through a lot and didn't deserve the way other "fans" treated them

[@urfavoritecarat]

@@yumi-suzume exactly. their only scandals were caused by others, like.. why do u want more ? SEVENTEEN is that one group who has scandals for things they never did or that wasn't their fault

[@yumi-suzume]

​@@urfavoritecarat obviously they just wanna bring them down coz they're successful, talented, humble, funny, kind, good-looking, and seventeen have good chemistry with each other which makes them very likable... yall can say more compliments coz obv i cant mention them all but u get the idea

[@urfavoritecarat]

@@yumi-suzume FACTS

[@lina-in4jw]

? so if a man is accused of things, we should not believe the victims first? y'all are crazy these are men that we don't know in real life. also, mingyu keeps getting into misogynistic scandals like that painting of women being tortured in it he has in his room for me not to side eye him.

[@svtbtsmoo1317]

1)The female staff was joking around with the members and Mingyu. And they randomly decided to check if he can lift her. Mingyu was even polite about it by giving the female staff her personal space immediately. 2) All allegations of bullying as proven to be either outright lies or a case of gaslighting. Mingyu in no way bullied anyone, but he still reached out to his classmates to apologize, even though he really didn't have to. I seriously would've sued if I was in his position. But Mingyu is a better person than me and he went about the entire issue respectfully and carefully. Carats totally respected pledis for how well they handled the situation. A lot of carats who were bullied themselves in school, and who were majorly triggered by the issue, also saw a more than satisfactory conclusion to the issue. But I seriously want to accusers and cheolca to pay for Mingyu's mental health and the thousands of carats too.

[@orizadhiazwanti9344]

its quite good carats didnt bash mingyu for his act toward the staff, and instead they became more angry to the sasaengs

[@0detoyoon]

There's this infamous story about how stalkers (yes plural) followed SVT to their private after concert party. They followed the boys' vans to the restaurant and waited outside. But then Hoshi noticed and confronted them by putting a stop sign in front of their car but unfortunately the stalkers were able to flee. Also about the phone the fan threw to Jeonghan. According to some fans, the owner of the phone wanted Jeonghan to take a pic using their phone. Good thing Jeonghan is an angel. That boy kept smiling while saying that he's okay throughout the ment 🥺

[@Riririririz]

It's actually a NO PARKING sign....and Hoshi was even injured that time.

[@mlkmhmd4561]

As far as I know only half of it is true. It was during one of their concerts in 2018 and Hoshi injured himself in the shoulder while dancing so after a while their manager decided to take Hoshi to the hospital while the other members continue the concert (and the members explained the situation to the fans and told them not to worry and that Hoshi is being treated) and when Hoshi and the manager were on their way to the hospital Hoshi noticed some sasaengs following them so he told his manager to block the sasaengs the car with their (the manager and Hoshi) car then he got out of the car with the manager and headed towards the sasaengs car he then asked the driver (the sasaeng) to lower down the window but the driver as frightened and the other sasaengs tried to hide themselves and kept telling the driver to leave and when the driver drove away the sasaeng (who was driving) didn’t realize that it was a dead end (Hoshi and the manager knew tho) then Hoshi took the “NO PARKING” sign and put it in the middle of the road to block the exit ( i think it was also in front of the sasaengs car. Honestly he seemed like he was ready to throw hands 💀) anyway the sasaengs were stuck there for about 5 minutes and then the driver discovered a narrow space they could escape from which was the other side of where Hoshi was standing from and they managed to escape and then the driver created a twt account and confessed everything and even revealed the other 3 sasaengs fansites ( they were 4 sasaengs) Then Hoshi returned on the stage after 1 hour and acted like nothing happened he also kept hyping the fans so they don’t get worried and joked that he went to their dorm to turn of the heater/boiler that was left on, he also did a shoulder rotation to show carats that he was ok and during the encore JeongHan gave him the biggest hug

[@friedshrimpsunwoo2825]

bruhh if i were jeonghan, i would've thrown it back to that fan to let them know how it feels to have objects thrown at you

[@ohohota]

whoever ignored dino needs to get karma >:( he’s literally my second ultimate bias, i would’ve shaked his hand a lot and showered him with love if i had the chance :((

[@sabramohamed129]

yeah it was some stupid japanese solo stans of other members...ugh makes me so angry

[@sabramohamed129]

@Bang me Chan wtf?? what’s wrong with you?

[@ruthmariyamjose4081]

@Bang me Chan Seriously????.... Did you lost ur last braincell??

[@anonymousperson4434]

@Bang me Chan I'm sorry but Dino don't need plastic surgery, he is perfectly handsome but people shouldn't be idiots and ignore someone just bc they don't fit their appearance standards bc that is just stupid and is not an excuse for their despicable behavior

[@veunxn]

@Bang me Chan do you not have a brain

[@Neveahrea]

Please Pledis we do not ask much . Just protect Seventeen from saesangs

[@Boo_merang]

It seems like they are ignoring carats' emails.

[@minhospudding_]

@@Boo_merang they really do😕

[@f_ckmylife.]

Exactly, they never take necessary actions.

[@fernandaevangeline314]

It breaks my heart to see such things even though it's quite a long time ago. Please do respect them

[@kiuukyo]

this is all so sad... as a carat who loves all 13 members equally, it breaks my heart to watch this video. poor mingyu still had his name dragged through the mud even though the scandal was proven false multiple times, even with the victims' mother stepping up and saying mingyu was not part of the group that bullied her son. sasaengs are so scary and i cannot imagine what would have happened if woozi or the other members even stepped out of the room. joshua did not deserve that. you can see how shocked everyone was and considering the fact that seventeen at that time as just a newly debuted group (in 2015), it must have been so shocking to them. the dino mistreatment by the so called 'carats' really breaks my heart most. he really cherishes us so much, so why couldn't those 'fans' reciprocate the energy and love ?? poor chan ... i almost teared up watching that part. he deserves all the love and respect especially from carats. the phone/throwing things on stage was genuinely a hazard as, well, phones are hard as rocks. it's 13 or none. don't call yourself a carat if you don't love and support all 13 of them.

[@dauniestream]

seventeen really need protection. 😭 they need lots and lots of security

[@zuraiza1989]

As much as i wanna meet them, i'll never intrude in their space.. Its enough as long as we could still see and heard them in all media platforms.. Also that 1 fan who get mad at joshua and claim to be treated fairly cause she spend money on them??? Hello girl, the world doesn't move just because of you.. A tons of carats was doing the same or many even more to make svt boys became more loved but also our svt boys was much2 talented that they doesn't need to beg you for attention..

[@cheolmie7528]

I think one of the worst thing I have come across is when some fansites stalked the boys and their concert staff to a restaurant after a concert to watch and film them getting drunk. a fansite went as far as state that a member should she treat her nicely because she bought him an expensive watch. The same group of fansite followed the members back to company/dorm where a member of seventee had to confront them. This Dino thing is pretty big in Japan and I still can not understand why fans do stupid things like that??

[@Paola10227]

I just hate the guts of the Carats who treat Seventeen like that and mostly that one's who try to bring them down as the had to suffer a lot during per debut and after. It also makes me sad to see that they get really happy with small things that carats do for them or just tell them something as they are kind hearted and just deserve the whole world and the just get along well,watch each other's back. But the thing that hurts me the most is when that cry because they miss Carats when that do comeback, Caratland, and more as most Carats are nice and always grateful for have met them in there life while others are just not like that and instead of them giving love and respect they just give hate and negative complaints or just make them feel left out and really sad.

[@Baerona17]

Some people who have the opportunity to meet them, don't deserve them at all😢

[@minjincafe]

they really do deserve better

[@15phanhoangnamnguyen3]

The mother of the disabled classmate who was said to have been bullied by him already spoke up abt it, said she remembers her child’s bullies and MG wasn’t one of them and that they were actually in good terms with each other.

[@Riririririz]

Mingyu is one of the MOST polite and kind idol out there... the people they work with can even attest to that. People just love messing with other people's life just coz they're jealous af. the fact that the sasaeng was inside the closet still creeps me out like wtf _____________ I was still infuriated when that fan threw a phone....it almost hit them. It can be okay for other artist but they should also consider that some of these idols are not used to being thrown at stuffs...plus it's freakngh dangerous?! At least use y'all's common sense? __________ A fan who's not into OT13 cannot be called a CARAT at all. They're just trash if the hate on a certain member/s.

[@deekay6368]

i will never forget how damaging the mistranslation issue was

[@khalidrao9838]

Can you please explain me the issue in detail like what happened.

[@VictoriaBudkey]

It is absolutely atrocious how some "fans" act in regards to their favorite groups and idols. There's this weird disconnect that happens with those fans' perspectives, like these are not real people that deserve privacy and safety. I understand the idols are held to a standard of conduct, but these false fans will cross every single boundary they can find, and it's truly upsetting. You wouldn't do these things to classmates, co-workers, or friends and expect it to be fine. Why would you do these things to idols you claim to admire and respect? The amount of grace Seventeen gives to these people who smear their names unfairly or treat them like crap is admirable.

[@orgoik]

I don't listen to Kpop yet I've been binging these videos...I'm now heavily invested to know about these creepy people stalking these poor celebs.

[@dauniestream]

they're not fans they're more like stalkers and anti fan. They shouldn't throw things at seventeen or even many other artists. They work really hard to make tours and concerts. If i went to their concerts and tours I be so happy. Just to give their gifts by going to their hotel room thts just creepy. they should've just gave it them during fanmeet. And for tht girl, just cause she has a bad temper doesnt mean she can just slam her paper down. these ppl make me mad 😤 seventeen deserves more love and protection. Also they should be respected.

[@dubulicious455]

fan is just a word while loving is something u do

[@mehadabral6032]

in seventeen's case although fans are a big problem, pledis also is equally bad. They rarely took actions against any of this and they often mistreat seventeen

[@classicclassic74]

If they stalk them and harrassed them those are not fan they are just obsessive haters that are prob jealous of their success

[@joshua1fan425]

do we realize that without one member there would not be Seventeen! therefore mistreating members is basically mistreating the whole group.

[@suibianslaopo]

I'm a new carat and it just boils my blood on how the bois had to go through all these shit if peldis could fucking have statement and file legal actions against it.

[@ridita5221]

Even a stuffed animal can be dangerous, anything can be inside it.

[@11.06_aj]

that’s not all rude things fans did to them… Idols have it o hard in life….

[@Nuhazxy]

Dino my heart 💔

[@jstdk1317]

I really feel so bad for them,like they don't deserve those people

[@horanghae3882]

cheolca i will never forget you

[@discokills]

Realizing that all this time i've been pronouncing Pledis wrong, like "pleh•dis" 😭

[@kjshizniz9197]

Why don't you try posing good stuff about svt like you do in other groups? All of your seventeen posts are negative tbh.. What's your purpose?

[@meridakeo1726]

She just just a cricket scramble when the time svt CB. She deleted my all other cmt

[@hannahstan3653]

Ever since the cheolca mistranslation incident, pledis started releasing English and Japanese translations along with each of their statements. No official statement without translations get released now.

[@purplepotato1778]

Hey CARATs wherever you are, if you left SEVENTEEN just because they were dating or had a scandal out of anger and disrespect or being rude because of the creepy, crazy and delusional like the sasaeng fans your feelings are very shallow so don't call yourself a CARAT. Their job is as idols but they are still HUMANS. Imagine if you were in their position, would you be comfortable? Don't you feel annoyed and angry? I'm very happy and proud because at least they have the courage to talk to the fans like that. Because "crazy fans" like them did the wrong thing, it's only natural that they should be followed up even if they go through legal action. So don't blame them! Blame the crazy fans! If as fans you want to be respected, then respect them too!

[@SincerelyGeet]

If it gets to KBoo or All Kpop if it went out of hand

[@exesouline]

these are not fans, these are sick people

[@PBINSANE234]

I feel so bad

[@gitikagope-4321]

Well we all are tired of pledis they never do anything to protect their artists and never take responsibility. pledis is just lucky to have group like saventeen who succeeded after lots of hardship they should be thankful to saventeen

[@jdjsjskawoidhsja9002]

Rudest thing is fr the hotel one..... I'm just saying that if I'd knew someone was stalking me I wouldn't sleep that day

[@chnlezhng]

dino is an angel how the hell can people treat him like that some carats are not carats they are just toxic saesangs

[@ahcylin7223]

I will never forgive cheolca

[@livikiu]

That's illegally scary. Saesengs are crazy, Leave their personal space alone.

[@dia_moon1226]

If you are against that "sasaeng behavior" why upload that video taken by a sasaeng? To cause another misleading information again? I know your channel covers the negativity about the KPOP World but why bring up that topics again. You uploaded another 2 vids. of them just days ago and what's concerning is their cb is nearing. What's next then?

[@Li-fi6yj]

Why didn't you add how pledis took actions in regards to mingyu's issue?

[@sofsofsofsof]

can you please stop posting bad things about seventeen 🙃

[@lilhonni]

How is this bad?

[@husseinalhaj2156]

I love seventeen especially hot

[@Dannyhoyle710]

Hiiii

[@Our_Neck_Of_The_Woodz]

smh

[@guiltymulti2031]

Ik this is off topic, but do people actually pronounce pledis as “pleedis”?!?

[@vanessadolores3108]

Can u do pt2 🥺

[@3rdelement10]

The Dino treatment could be because of that time he was caught messaging a female staff and sending lovey dovey videos to her.

[@svtbtsmoo1317]

No.

[@sl-kpoplyrics3913]

No

[@3rdelement10]

@@svtbtsmoo1317 How are u so sure?

[@3rdelement10]

@@sl-kpoplyrics3913 How are you so sure?

[@dishasingh3669]

even so, that gives no right to them to be treating him that way

[@bryce1616]

Why It’s Mingu most of the time🤣🤣 Might be something wrong with him

[@horanghae3882]

anti spotted

[@izzaghassani7187]

Mingyu is just really clumsy, which makes him an easy target for controversies…

[@bryce1616]

@@izzaghassani7187 seems like too much.. Wasn’t trained properly

[@melisak1963]

@@bryce1616 with u talking about

[@bryce1616]

@@melisak1963 can't you see

[@vernonscheekbones]

Dino is the sweetest most-talented maknae, we're sorry this ever had to happen to you. He deserves the world 💗

[@sabramohamed129]

@Bang me Chan check yourself in the mirror before talking about others you stupid idiot

[@vannessagarcia4158]

Yes my bias

[@Iseeyou0165]

Dino was one of the reason that got me into Seventeen…can’t believe people are mistreating him like that :(

[@Featjeonghwa]

Right like, Dino is my bias and hes sweatest person i've known, hes such a nice and caring person, i don't get how people hate him

[@wHiPpEdFoRJeOnJuNgKoOk]

If they are rude to them, then they are not fans because they've got no respect for them. You must love and support your idols that's all they deserve not bad treatment or harrassment

[@iloveadinosaur]

Exactly and we don't wanna be associated with these kind of obsessive people either...

[@kaeya8674]

Indeed

[@SVT_GODS_MASTERPIECE]

Yes

[@somqicarat1591]

That is so right.

[@sugakookie4life205]

yes

[@phoenixcalling]

Repeat after me: BEING A FAN OF AN IDOL DOES NOT MEAN THEY OWE YOU ANYTHING. YOU ARE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM, NOT TELL THEM HOW TO SUPPORT YOU. IDOLS WORK THEIR ASSES OFF TO MAKE YOU HAPPY AND ARE PEOPLE JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE. IF THEY ASK IT, LEAVE. THEM. ALONE.

[@svtrash]

`this ment nees to be pinned

[@khizrasabir59]

BESTIE SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE BITCHES WHO DONT GET IT!!!

[@simrasheik4909]

preach

[@boiledeggs26]

Well said

[@cutie0939]

@@svtrash 😭

[@duqial]

I feel so sorry for Dino and I am not even a seventeen fan 😢. Poor guy

[@luda1268]

its true alot of the members get hate (especially the foreign line) but the hate for dino is so weird coz hes a main dancer, a singer rapper visual and the maknae but gets so much hate when i thought he would be the most popular. but atleast now hes getting way more recognition than before !!!

[@duqial]

@@luda1268 I am glad to hear he is getting more recognition and I am shocked people are capable of hating such a talented person and a maknae at that.

[@luda1268]

@Bang me Chan he still is a visual he’s beautiful

[@anonymousperson4434]

@@luda1268 I was also surprised when I became a Dino stan and found that he is really underrated/underappreciated (not sure which word fits more) despite being really talented.

[@Reyshy]

I am not a Carat but I must admit I fell in love with the Attacca album and start to listen more of their music. As an Aghase myself I feel their pain at how unfair and basically useless their label is to handle issues and at how disgusting some so call fans are. The I can’t control my emotions T.T or I pay for you excuses only show how disgustingly entitle people can be and how common is for fans, mostly females fans, to behave like derange borderline psychopaths and yet get away with almost no consequences. Male fans can be just as bad but it’s socially acceptable to brand a male fan a piece of £¥¥!\[8 because it’s ok to call men beasts and creeps and predators, but we provide more shelter for women who behave just as bad only because poor little baby girl, she is just moody, she is just young, she will grow up, yeah, grow up to be a person who knows no matter how shitty their behavior is cry 😢 they are bulling me and all will be forgiven. It’s not a matter of what you are, who you are, disgusting unacceptable behavior is exactly that, I don’t care if you are 12 or 24 or 59, male, female, bird, pineapple, attack helicopter, white, Asian, Latino, maybe is because in my household we were Latinos raised with the We are all equal, no one is more special nor has the god given rights to believe they do, that I just can’t really comprehend how the majority of people accept this kind of behavior.

[@robinraadhi2541]

Well damn, couldn't have said it better. The entitlement of people is mind blowing

[@hvelan9858]

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@purplepotato1778]

All people should get the same treatment in the eyes of the law, regardless of gender. Those who are underage are also the same, at least adjusted. But wherever it is in this world everything is still a mess..

[@aimen87]

AGHASEEEEE

[@bbyeniidhee]

pledis is one of the most horrible companies to ever exist. the way they treat svt is disgusting. the members deserve nothing but love and respect. i hope this gets better cuz watch them get mistreated breaks my heart

[@Riririririz]

Actually they kinda step up now... not that I started to like them tho. I just appreciate how they managed Gyu's issue...they handled it well by really reaching out to the person spreading the rumor, and even constantly updating Carats about it....but yeah~ now they sucked for not taking action regarding the sasaeng.

[@alantes]

I hear the members are underpaid as well. I know there are so many of them but they are still generating so much money for the company. Even their comeback production and costumes often times look cheap.

[@Riririririz]

@@alantes back then yes... But their fits now are IMMACULATE 😌💖 Members help design their own fits during concerts too 😌 I don't give a single fck about pledis, so since I'm seeing my boys getting at least not that same shitty treatment back then RN (though I still think it ain't enough) for now I will shut up.

[@alantes]

​@@Riririririz Those PLEDIS stylists made MINGYU wear drawstring sweatpants for the HOT Comeback video w/ a low crotch... You could actually see the outline of his penis when he danced. It was beyond disrespectful. To give an idol of his caliber something so cheap for a comeback as important as HOT... He couldn't even dance properly. Looked sloppy. My ultimate is always MONSTA X. Say what you want about StarShip, but our boys always look expensive & polished to perfection. And nowadays, pure luxury. They actually gleam on syage somehow. SVT DESERVES BETTER. I have seen old concepts where even the Great JEONGHAN looked cheap... Like HOW COULD THEY ACCOMPLISH THAT? If SVT weren't self-producing & so sweet to their fans, they could never be this successful under a company like PLEDIS.

[@malinisnathalie1102]

@@alantes move on, they are well treated now LOL

[@saur_sop99]

I wish I could give all my love to dino...he deserves all the love in this world♥

[@wHiPpEdFoRJeOnJuNgKoOk]

I feel so bad for the idols that have to deal with this because sasaengs are a real danger to them, they must be properly punished because what they do is criminal

[@mikasan1232]

That staff member gave consent and these guys were playing a game or something and testing Mingyu whether he can lift things like people and heavy object's.......jeeeez......If the girl said no or showing resistance then there is something wrong.....but that staff member was like OK you can carry me and laughed along.....

[@ricamndza]

Carats were trying hard to hide or to not spread that video of Mingyu then you just posted that here on KZbin?????

[@mingyufavwife]

I was think we agreed to do that together :(

[@jeonw345]

after this please stop posting bad things related to seventeen if you want to post pls post how seventeen and carats have such a good relationship eg how caratbong saved a chinese carat during floods... etc

[@sabramohamed129]

yeah i noticed that this channel post alot of Seventeen things now that their comeback is near... like why now?? don't get it

[@boohangyu_sunshine]

@@sabramohamed129 and it's always negative stuff too. I have never seen this channel post anything remotely positive about seventeen, and the only time they do post about seventeen it's always when they have a comeback.

[@jeonw345]

@@sabramohamed129 yeah its all negative stuff and i hate it so much

[@jeonw345]

@@boohangyu_sunshine really like what is the reason for bringing back the same issue again and again which has been cleared 1 year ago.. didnt even talk how pledis took time and cleared everything related and all these issues are so old.. pledis now have good management and are protecting their artist very well.

[@boohangyu_sunshine]

@@jeonw345 Exactly!

[@Boo_merang]

This is alarming it not just happen to SVT but other groups experience this kind of situation. Its getting out of a hand

[@lilacann3962]

they wont realize the meaning of ' VIOLATION OF PRIVACY' until or unless someone come to their home with a camera... hide behind their wardrobe and shoot them n all.. ive seen many times fans throwing phones, papers, bottles, even under garments!!!! thats a way too much... i dont think they can be called as a fan... they literallyy dont know the meaning of that fan... what joy does hurting their idol give them?!!! Dino deserves better .. i feel sorry for him... if u r a fan u shld love the group as a whole... u shld love each and every member... if u cant love them all u shld not call urself as a fan!!! its ok to have bias... even i have bias in all kpop grps... but u shld not ignore / hate any member of that grp... u shld love all..

[@moonlitsunwoo]

I hope seventeen members know that there are carats out there that truly respect and love them and also aren’t stalkers

[@dinomasaki3498]

why are you suddenly posting many things about seventeen for clout and views, this things in the past and do not need to be brought up again!!!!! many people ignore seventeen all these years and now suddenly posting about them and do not give enough information, its weird

[@sabramohamed129]

yeah...this is weird

[@princessdamara13]

It's just sad how plesids didn't even speak up for SVT and I just wish they did because fans should not be asking twice for them to protect from sasaengs or to add more bodyguards

[@kimberlyyy3166]

I might be wierd for this but I find that video of Mingyu picking up the staff lady so ☄ADORABLE☄. Not to mention that Mingyu is a damn skyscraper { BTW I MEAN THAT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE😗}

[@uroomacullen5198]

As a Carat for 5 years I kind of feel weird so many accounts are posting SEVENTEEN related videos, because they never did before. Their comeback was never hyped by such accounts as they did for others, and they(svt) would be part of video (a tiny bit) but never get a full video. What is going on? Is it just me who is finding this different or others have the same opinion? TMI I am writing this comment while listening to "SUKYO".

[@issapurpleworldanddiamondl747]

Bruuuuh I thought I was the only one who felt weird about this....like WTH is going on

[@alefr8469]

.

[@svtbtsmoo1317]

Feel the same way as you... :)

[@vmrich]

I'm honestly worried, i feel like many people are trying to bring svt down, with new fanwars happeing every single day on twt to uploading controversial videos on svt on yt just before comeback, this all feels like some planned (?) or maybe coincidental efforts to sabotage them.

[@uroomacullen5198]

@@vmrich no matter how much you throw dirt on a jewel it will still shine. Whatever they are doing doesn't matter our Boys are talented and it's a fact.

[@hijabigirl18]

Some fans are disgusting how could they break into the hotel to give gifts. Also Dino deserves every happiness in the world. He is such a charming human. I can't believe people ignore this sweetheart. Also idols and female staffs spends more time together. So it's normal for them to be friends and play with each other.

[@mansiyy]

How can these people be called fans? Theyre toxic . Not just seventeen every group has these. Please dont!!

[@Mashka14]

Seventeen are incredibly talented Singers dancers Vocalists and Preformers they deserved to be treated with respect as Human beings and being supported by the fandom and media as well. The company has to do a much better job protecting Seventeen from these toxic fans aka Saseangs who invade their privacy

[@shreeyasharma3815]

if you don't mind what does saseangs mean?

[@linobinnie]

Overly obsessive people who cross the artist’s boundaries, like taking pictures of them secretly, some sasaengs are even close to the staff or the managers so from that they can collect information of the artist’s and sell it to other people.

[@shreeyasharma3815]

@@linobinnie Oh my God that's so toxic and sad

[@shreeyasharma3815]

@@pruitv2857 are you talking to me ?😅

[@shreeyasharma3815]

@@pruitv2857 I really don't understand how can these people live easily by damaging someone's mental health for no reason there are so many people who deserve to live but can't because of these mfs and so many who doesn't and still live by destroying others mental health.

[@PurpleSpirit38]

tbh as a carat, i didn't know that they actually had sasaeng and toxic fans.. bcs they are always humble about how much they are not that popular irl... sending hugs to dino and protect him at all cost! :(((

[@rinayuni5807]

SVT had a very bad experience before debut with sasaeng fans. Some ex trainee sell information abt SVT before. That's why SVT is very careful and making sure they set some boundaries with fans. It's also the reason SVT rarely have this case. I remember SVT used to be very inactive in Instagram, some rumor said they suddenly stopped doing insta because sasaengs following them based on the picture. Now they started it again but seems like they are still trying their best to keep everything low-key.

[@larax4978]

Why is this channel suddenly posting about Seventeen?

[@alexxander966]

I already knew all of this because SVT is the group I follow the most closely, but hearing it all back to back compiled in one video makes it all even more frustrating lol

[@nazkh]

What’s with kookielit posting so many videos about seventeen lately 💀 and it’s always negative stuff. Stop it please.

[@jeonw345]

yeah its so annoying they do this before every comeback..

[@nazkh]

@@jeonw345 right??? Like what do they got against seventeen goddamn

[@deanxzayn1408]

The Twitter translation is so annoying, why take a job you aren’t sure of. He/she literally almost ruined mingyu’s life

[@bluckamey]

I remember hearing about the mingyu thing. I knew who seventeen was but I didn't know any members names except josh, Vernon, woozi and DK. I just became a fan about 2 months ago, so hearing that mingyu was the guy from those posts is shocking. I would have never realized. I remember hearing about the mistranslation back when it happened and wondering why someone would do that. But at that time a bunch of idols were getting falsely accused of stuff on Twitter.

[@mingyufavwife]

3:48 OMG ahh MY HEART IT IS RELLY SO PAINFUL

[@aurelnh]

they are not fans. i will never accept them as fans if they're rude to their idols

[@alantes]

Awww Joshua’s cute eyes… and Dino is my babe and bias. His dance moves me. Always impressive; always so handsome. And so sweet. And Gyu was clearly not assaulting the female crew member - imbecilic. We can actually see the vid that was illegally filmed.

[@purplepotato1778]

If I was a person with a lot of money, could easily go to Korea/Japan or wherever there was an event related to seventeen, I would be one of the CARATs who will happily toss for how many times and for how long as long as Lee Chan can smile again and know that there are still people (like me) out there who like him for who he is.

[@shennanoona7917]

The throwing things is so true! A fan threw a phone at a GOT7 concert once and it hit Jinyoung on the neck.

[@Stella09]

Appreciate dino please 🥺 You all.... don't forget about our diamond maknae 😭

[@wonungie8229]

Dino is such a sweetheart.. why are Pple so sour jeez!! 🚮.. Seventeen are nice guys and some people should just back OFF!!!

[@3rdelement10]

The Dino treatment could be because of that time he was caught messaging a female staff and sending lovey dovey videos to her.

[@horanghae3882]

this channel is becoming suspicious.. posting videos about seventeen that may put them in a bad light...

[@hidecarat]

delete the video of the beginning of Mingyu, carat did the impossible so that it didn't leak and you come to put it, you just had to mention it and that's it

[@lomikwon7178]

This things are a long time ago let's forgot it n move on to supoort them! Carat....

[@SHINielle96]

Your channel seems so full of the negativities about kpop but you know what, some issues don’t need to be brought up once again. Carats are trying not to put too much attention to issues and try to solve it INTERNALLY to avoid other fandoms from knowing it and twisting all the details because that’s when it becomes more chaotic. I guess you’re not a Carat because you chose to make a video about it instead. There are a lot more positive things about seventeen and what you’re doing is putting them into something more negative than what it actually is. There are toxic fans but there are MORE Carats who are good and very respectful. Just like other fans in the comments, I hope you’ll also make videos about positive things. If not, then pls just leave svt alone.

[@aileenj2571]

If i were in the fanmeet in haru, i will shake hand dino while say i love him so much and thank you😍🥰

[@noultinsvt8424]

I feel like crying for what the members experience to these so- called "Fans'.. I am not considering them as Carats. Bec carats loves our members dearly.. And we do not want any harm done to them... I hope Pledis takes this chance to better take care of the members.

[@somqicarat1591]

Had me goosebumps from the very beginning. I don't get why they are even called fans when they do not support every member of the group. Real carats won't do that. I'm worry for Mingyu. I think he's the member who gets involve everytime stupid fans or i don't how u call them just start accusing and spreafibg fake rumors. I don't want him to get dragged and so does every svt member.

[@kkggg7520]

I think it might be because mingyu is the most popular one. Many carats also thought the same. It's just any opinion idk I feel so bad and worried about him he is always smiling and he never complains

[@somqicarat1591]

@@kkggg7520 But im happy pledis is taking actions to their artist. Like they should

[@sanskritiranjan4127]

Pledis is Cube's younger cruel sibling

[@미사키정]

And yes... CHEOLCA...... That person is carats personal enemy.... and that will go on forever hahahahaha

[@therapy454]

Seventeen is doing so great and got so many good people who like them. People doing this is so not cool.

[@ameliaAustin-qm7fr]

I hate people it's hard on them i first to believe that they are incredible incredible people them go through a lot to be honest I form Guyana and people in my country doing the same thing they said that I am stupid and I don't have a mine but I try to tell myself that I am doing great even if I don't did it right i still try my hardest to be honest I ever talked to anyone before so I'm trying to make friends and have a beautiful day one day I will meet them all in person one so I ever give up no matter what happens I'll well keep going on 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤because they have done it so I can do the same ❤❤❤❤❤thanks you seventeen keep up going well and safe ❤️ 💙 ❤❤❤

[@sabramohamed129]

what's the point?? what do you want? why do you keep posting all these bad videos about seventeen? like we already know all of this... why are you doing this right before their comeback too?? are you trying to sabotage things?. ughhhh.

[@minttea4503]

How a fan of other members pushed wonwoo during airport rush just to get closer to her fave, also how fans mobbed Hao at the airport(then did the same thing to wonwoo, even though he said he wears bucket hats always because the amount of people at the airport makes him anxious) to the point where both of them had to cover their ears and keep their head down....and after this wonwoo went on weverse to apologize and said that it's his faut trying to protect carats and not make them worry, even though it's obviously not his fault... as for minghao, he went on weibo live and asked not to mob them but as I said after this they still mobbed wonwoo... literally those aren't carats. also after minghao getting mobbed he got a lot of security around him but we found out that it was his brand kiko milano who protected their ambassador and not pledis, which did nothing to protect members...

[@Exotic6792]

I've never understood why Dino always gets hate or ignored. Like, he literally does nothing to you guys.?? All he does is sing and dance, that's literally his life. So why does he get hate?

[@woozidan4849]

KOOKIELIT are you seventeen anti?