RUINING TOP TIER WITH SPIKE MISSILES - AH-129D Mangusta in War Thunder

[@OddBawZ]

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[@Warthunder_carrot]

Pls play the m22

[@natecondy4125]

Odd it’s not a 2A5 it’s a 2a7

[@abraxocleaner2325]

bawz any bamikaze vids ? or is that projekt dead ?

[@saltysteel3996]

Turn ON your IRCM while in the helicopter please. :)

[@deathguy66]

Gaijin: "we're releasing new maps with more destroyable buildings!" Aslo Gaijin: **updates existing destroyable maps to no longer be destroyable**

[@GewelReal]

Of course a wooden house stops an APFSDS

[@Thatonedude90]

“These air to air missiles aren’t the best” after firing them at the worst launch angle ever conceived by a human.

[@AdaaDK]

well to be fair, they are beaten by both russian and especially Chinese manpad helli fired missiles. SOOO hes on to a point, However they arent bad, i use the same onces at 10.3 on my previous techtree italian helli. Their biggest flaw is fligth time(guidance time) AND low G turns, but most manpads has low G-turns, Sooo, and at least they are somewhat flare resistant(IRCCM).

[@shikikanaz4624]

@@AdaaDK to be fair, in china's case that what really makes them good. take it away and they're terrible (so good that gaijin decided to put the z9w at 10.0 with only 3km atgm STOCK and upgraded atgms still only have 3km range). idk about russia though, cant really defend them

[@thesupreme8062]

​@shikikanaz4624 if the manpads were realistically modeled instead o being half as maneuverable it wouldn't be an issue, not to mention that the iglas currently are literally magical bullshit which instantly tilts 60 degrees towards their targets as soon as shot(which is utter bullshit)

[@mmneaapro596]

@@shikikanaz4624 Iglas, are kinda sad tho, i would say they are one of the worse AA missiles for helis while it has a large sustainer, but it nearly got not maneuverability only 10G's so you can imagine how bad it is so yee, large burn time + a fairly good IRCCM, and that is its advantage like for me to get a single plane, sometimes i spam 4 to 5 of them, so i can get the kill you could test it on Ka-50, it has 2 iglas

[@TheArbiter1721]

"Just spawn SPAA" The CAS is question:

[@darugdawg2453]

US doesnt get the fire and forget hellfire...

[@Redstoneprofi01]

​@@darugdawg2453Well but the us gets every other shit

[@steffent.6477]

@@darugdawg2453 Who does?

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@Redstoneprofi01 for example? The US doesn’t get anything special CAS wise or ground wise

[@Redstoneprofi01]

@@Optimusprime56241 For example fighter planes that have as many bombs as a long range bomber of any other nation, or the planes that have like 10 50 cals at br 3.0

[@coldcupofmilk]

helicopters take such extreme amounts of skill to use clearly

[@axmajpayne]

Ya, those buildings in Japan, you used to be able to blow them up with HE or HEAT and shoot through them with solid shot, but Gaijin changed it along with making the same changes to other buildings on other maps. It's pretty annoying when an AP round can't go through a few planks of wood.

[@biziluxgames8924]

ye its so stupid. if ur gonna be fucking around like that, at least change the buildings to stone then, or concrete... but yeah who am i kidding... its gaijin we are talking about

[@joens__]

Bro woke up and chose cancer

[@thesauceguy1809]

You can actually rearm at heli spawns without touching the ground, you just have to hover right above it. Also, if you rearm with the harriers at the heli spawns, it just spawns you in the air so you don't have to take-off again haha.

[@AdaaDK]

OHHH nice tip, thx. 🙂

[@r.awilliams9815]

I used to work on helicopters back in my military days...that first landing made me cringe. Pretty much means the chopper is getting a new tail boom.

[@sad8181]

It’s almost like this a video game

[@theliteralworst9416]

@@sad8181they’re literally just providing a little bit of knowledge from some life experience. Go touch grass.

[@eaglemach9992]

@@sad8181 Monkeys like you are what's wrong with warthunder

[@masterclips7657]

@@sad8181dudes just commenting on some life experience stop being cringe

[@Mincecroft]

Nah dude 15 seconds and it's good to go 😂

[@starshiptroopers1975]

You need to do a collaboration with dollar plays. Yall are the only two content creators I still follow and I love both play styles. I think it would be amazing, but keep on brother.

[@alankohn6709]

This is why helicopters should have to take off from the airport like a plane not from with in firing range of the battlefield

[@judasdedalosson8105]

"They are extremely toxic" that sums up helicopter in particular and WT in general. Thanks Odd. I figured that most heat seeking missiles lock in helicopters only when they are facing away. As if the engine was a lot hotter on their backside.

[@ThePiedPyro]

“Are you a man or woman” “Man” “Oh okay-“ “Gusta”

[@lairyhegs9956]

The Spike missiles actually got a post-pen buff recently along with most of the guided HEAT warhead munitions like the Hellfires and Mavericks

[@IlllIlIlIIlll]

Hungarian leopard 2a5?!?

[@normtopgg_rus]

2a7

[@lilquantumstuff4435]

2a7(5)

[@joebloggs7514]

Apparently it is (or plays like) a 2a5 with a few extra bits bolted on according to Odd.

[@LastGoatKnight]

It doesn't matter. Everything Hungary uses becomes bad

[@zeitgeistx5239]

lol OP thought Gaijin cares about accuracy? How many vehicles have we had now that has a name of a specific model that doesn’t match its IRL characteristic or Gaijin mixing and matching features from various models of a vehicle and essentially creating a different one.

[@arthurharris1332]

13:10 the chat your squad mate is just there for fun 😂

[@brandonbao7097]

Once you use the AKD10 on Z-10, you learn to appreciate basically every other type of heli launched AGMs out there.

[@hubris6567]

L-UMTAS exists in Italy heli tree with max speed of 180 m/s compared to 345m/s of AKD-10. I salute those who grind Italy heli tree with starter huey having only 14 snebs rocket.

[@txcgladiator4030]

@@hubris6567literally the worst starter heli in game :(

[@thegrizzly594]

5:52 that’s what we in aviation call a “rough landing” lololol

[@WTCheatShaming]

Videos like this are exactly why I dont play top tier anymore for ground

[@luna-zh1tz]

it's so frustrating I just wanted to play a mbt but planes and helis... and not to mention most games tend to last like 5 minutes because of the premium spam it's such a cancerous br man

[@radium4194]

It’s almost like helicopters were invented as tank killers hence their name

[@aidanmonroe17]

@@radium4194bro wtf are you talking about. How does that have anything to do with that he said

[@radium4194]

@@aidanmonroe17 they’re complaining about helicopters and I’m saying “get good”

[@ronaldmcreagann6343]

@@radium4194that’s utterly retarded as it misses the point entirely. They’re saying Helis and planes are overpowered in their current configurations and often are the deciding factor in if a match can actually be enjoyed as ground rb or if it’s just gonna be a case of hide from the plane you can’t kill and hope SPAA or fighters are capable of helping. Having played this game as much as I have, telling someone to get good when referencing things completely out of their control is absolutely ridiculous.

[@insurgentkilla]

What a bad ass set of events you absolutely crushed at the 21-22 min mark. Hell ya brother 🤙😲

[@AdaaDK]

Great video, and the reason i just unlocked that chopper for my italians yestoday, However dosnt have great cas is maybe a slight understatement, at least if you play 12.7 you get the gripen C, i would imagine thats a pretty solid cas.

[@Crona231]

I always flick manual rolling on for helis you get so much more control out of them with it

[@harisdizdarevic6699]

Yeah i do that too, that gets rid of the drift to one side or the other👍

[@Samimies]

Mouse-aim limits your mobility by 4 times. Use full-real manual control mode to turn as fast as possible. It really is quite difficult, but try it in test flight. Turn on dampening only in ATGM shooter view.

[@Pele55]

in the first match, when you killed the Tunguska and the Ka-52 killed you right after, i thought "why do i have a deja vu". when you looked at the score board it hit me i was in that match lol

[@fowlWarDog]

Every time I'm reminded that the literal top tier of ground can get the tiniest of low tier maps I'm amazed. How the hell did Gaijin succeed to the degree they have, and continue to for that matter.

[@possiblyannoyingvids]

What else are you going to play? World of tanks!? 😭😭😹😮

[@gelatinoussire7772]

If you use the Israeli AH-60, you can get 16 of these missiles! Very cool, Gaijin!

[@Kenionatus]

Why tf would they put the heli pad inside missile range of the ground battlefield... If helis had to fly a while to rearm, it would be more of a secondary battlefield that you can effectively win instead of a farm party.

[@Hunter_i86]

Let's go, modern gameplay! God bless you OddBawZ 🤩

[@Mamiya645]

Much better editing with focus on the vehicle that is the subject, thank you and also for more "all cas should begin at 1000SP minimum ever and no more firstspawn helis" content.

[@stewart9540]

Fun and engaging gameplay for the enemy 😂😂

[@SirTankBall]

This is exactly why i bring a fighter jet, i absolutely hate CAS and now im forced to you a jet because the SPAA is absolutely Useless!

[@o-hogameplay185]

anything above 8.0 is basically unplayable because of them. around 80% (80-85%, i have counted it but i can't remember the of the exact number, but it was above 80%) time when i was playing the T-10M and AMD i was destroyed by CAS players with negative tank K/D

[@SirTankBall]

@o-hogameplay185 Ground RB more like Air RB/ with dynamic Ground force, what a pain, my line up is nearly all aircraft at this point

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@SirTankBall exactly. for years now i am saving the stats of the enemy CAS players that destroy me with CAS, and i make a program that averages their tank stats. their average K/D with tanks is 0.58 so far (while the recent 100-200 players are not yet in the average, but almost all of them are bellow even that number, so i would not be suprized if the average moves bellow 0.5). CAS is just a cheap tool for the bad players, and that's why it will never change. it is easier to give them a zero skill uncounterable broken tool than teaching them how to play. oh also the best player in that database has an awesome K/D of 1.3!

[@SirTankBall]

@o-hogameplay185 Wow but yeah I need to find a new 'tool' to make these cancerous aircrafts suffer

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@SirTankBall well the best thing is to get in an aircraft yourself and focus them out of the game with their own tool. i remember a guy that used CAS against me, and i then got in a plane, and spawncamped 3 of his tanks out in less than a minute. it is even better if they cry afterwards (when in reality they asked for it).

[@tylertorbett6942]

Thank you odd!!

[@TheBudkai]

I'm so glad I watched this! I was thinking about getting into helicopters, but now I'm not. I'd rather be on the ground.

[@ThatDude7788]

I wake up and theres a new oddbawz vid, gotta love it 🎉

[@Talendale]

Weirdly enough, spikes are wonderful dealing with choppers since LOS is difficult for them to break...so naturally, a chopper using them has a lovely time.

[@ExcavationNation]

As someone that doesn't play helicopters this was actually fun to watch

[@indxghost3157]

Been awhile since I’ve been in war thunder as I’m getting back into it I’m finding I’m really liking the UAV’s that you can spawn in on light tanks, wanted your thoughts on if you should get rewarded for scouting people with them, I’m finding it hard to stay interested again with war thunder and it really isn’t helping that the one thing I like doesn’t even give me anything. Glad you’re still bringing though odd, much love

[@Superbus753]

Nice display how absolutely op cas is.

[@paxtonvail-_-]

I do love me some helichopper

[@LowBudgetGaming_]

Just yesterday i thought "why don't CCs play helis?". My prayers have been answered!

[@wranglerdave6452]

Kind of looks like an AH64 Apache ATTACK helicopter

[@zunezacove9665]

Nice relaxing, engaging heli-play. I appreciate. Im sure the enemy didnt tho lol.

[@randomstuffhere-69420]

13:09 "dont look im naked" is crazy😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dustind6170]

Please revisit the Israeli 6.0 (M-51 specifically) lineup! The m-51 wasn't great when it was first released but the fact that it's a reserve vehicle at 6.0 and changes to HEAT have turned it into a really fun tank to play since you last used it. Plus Weizman's Spitfire is just a blast to play with for CAS.

[@cole6396]

* *flies 10 feet,, shoots 8 missiles, kills and injures 6+... flies back 10 feet, and rearms.. does it again** * ALL while being basically so far off the map that hes basically un targetable... 99% safe - whoever okayed this from gaijin needs to have his jaw broken

[@PiousSlayer]

Have you tried VR for Helicopters? Bruce Leeroy's gameplay looks fun as hell.

[@bencebenedek]

Greetings from Hungary🤝 Keep up the good work OddBawZ💪

[@jengac5803]

When you thought CAS was toxic and then you watch this helicopter CAS video - words cant describe

[@Godspeed_95_51]

Pov u test drive vehicles so much you know how to land them perfectly😂😂

[@thefamilydogs3213]

The Sea Harrier and the F-20 have the F/A-18 radar prototype in them. That's why it is in the game.

[@evanoconnell9448]

this is how apache hellfires should be, fire and forget like they are in real life

[@VincentNajger1]

Win or lose, high or low K/D ratio....It doesn't matter. We're here for the comedy banter and peak WT lunacy, with some idiocy as spice, which is made funnier and more entertaining by the accent and dialogue, commentating the race for biggest asshole/moron with associated salt flow lol. The more ridiculous the matches, MM and vehicles OddBawz has decided showcase/punish, the more entertaining and funnier the vids seem to be. This channel is like a funnier, more polite WT version of Claus Kellerman, Jingles, DezGamez and Quickybaby slopped into a big blender and pureed into a sticky and hilarious beverage, topped off with a Scottish accent. Perfection!

[@OverTorque_Racing]

Gaijin has a lot of work to do on the flight characteristics and damage realism for the helicopters.

[@el_barto96]

Damn, and bro named the preset 3.3 too. It'd be hilarious to play this helo against vehicles that will likely struggle to even pen it...

[@2727daqwid]

my fav heli in the game tbh, its v good, even with dumb rockets it wrecks havoc

[@burningsinner1132]

Spike missiles work not unlike LRM in mechwarrior online: While missile is fire and forget, you use positioning to tunnel the missile and set the approach angle.

[@jarpasmannen]

21:55 was pretty damn kino.

[@daytonsprague8425]

Thay was so sick lol

[@itaclips6698]

That was such a badass kill on the jet😭🫠

[@Surpigs243]

I wish the tiger heli got a auto cannon

[@shaunkelly9053]

The only heli more toxic then this is the tiger with the even better fire and forget missiles.

[@Eagron]

33:27 you can see him in the left part of the screen, the radar and top was peekeng between the buildings

[@tryhardsama_2718]

Hey if you haven't taken the skipper missile from the A-6E Tram out for a spin you should give it a go. Been having a ton of fun with it

[@naughtyewok]

Helikopter helikopter 🎵

[@breath944]

My question is how are you supposed to fight this?

[@csii6478]

They cancel the lock for the spike missile. I found it easier just to rotate the helicopter for break the line of sight for the seeker, then it resets

[@BasherBenDawg8]

There’s supposed to be Spike-ERs on the Israeli Apache, but it only got passed as a suggestion and not acknowledged as a bug report. For now the Israeli Blackhawk is the only comparable helicopter to this thing.

[@OddBawZ]

I showed the Israeli Apache with Spikes at the end! :)

[@BasherBenDawg8]

@@OddBawZI thought you showed the AH-60 Battle Hawk with the Spikes, not the AH-64D-I Apache (Saraph in game) (which doesn’t have them in game quite yet (TMsoon)), unless I’m mistaken and missed you showing that one as well. (Sidenote, if you’re going to play the Israeli AH-60 Battle Hawk at some point (or the AH-60D-I Saraph when it gets said missiles), I highly suggest getting gaijin to give you a test drive for it, as it takes forever to grind the full Spike-ER x16 loadout. The final Spike-ER modification costs 49k RP to unlock… it’s brutal…

[@frostedbutts4340]

The top French Tiger has Spike ER too.

[@redhd4647]

i wish the grind would end. anyway. goated video

[@Eagle-kp7fx]

fun fact, even if u get severe damaged, u can still survive, it just gives the player 75% of the kill, and doesnt add a kill to a stat card unless it dies Also u should play the G-Lynx!

[@Hjalmarbrantingz]

Fun vid. If you can find anything with a see helicopter i will give you my grandmas secret recept of meatballs

[@farmcat9873]

The AH-60 spike ER missiles are mmmmmm alright they randomly hit in wired spots or lock onto nothing sometimes it kinda bites. Hell ya never wanna just leave a good fight and NEVER want to get a L if its possible.

[@ExcavationNation]

F's in the chat for helicopters.

[@Draxymaxy]

F

[@Cory-Stewart-]

9:25 I only ever here this "we are losing" as the game is over and lost

[@PurpleMoonCats]

Odd you can use the hover mode and throttle down intill the thang says -99 and it will stay on the ground. 9:14

[@theepablotm]

34:51 its an av-6 harrier that uses the same radar out of the f18

[@Skip.8221]

thank you lol i was wondering what tf it was

[@Blue_Beta]

Just saw Italian stuff in the thumbnail, insta-click

[@Not_Octopus]

Remember when everyone hated the Tiger UHT for having fire and forget missiles?

[@Captdialup]

Hey, odd if you're looking for a great tank plane combo. I'd love to see you do the Pbv 501 and the A21RB. They're one deadly combo.

[@jhj6823o]

love the vids bro keep them up u should try the kw II from germany

[@pallegantzhorn3742]

damn, what was the devs thinking...

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

I think if you shut off you engine when you touch down on the pad, it is harder to lock an IR missile on you. I know it works with jets.

[@Shiraumere]

Fun and engaging gameplay.

[@jamieimbusch]

Thanks Bawz. I'll see me fellow viewers at the Cancer ward

[@lmfo1991]

@OddBawZ I know you hate choppers but would be cool to see you play an early era chopper

[@tomdee1373]

This is the exact reason I don't play high BR's haha. Good video though!

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

Spikes may be slow but when theyre IR based like this, it makes me wonder why the Apaches are anywhere above 11.0 right now. The only helis that should be above 11.0 are anything with Vikhrs and F&F spikes. Even after the buffs its hard to justify Apaches and Vipers/Cobras being 11.3 with Hellfire performance. It is a massive detriment having to be in LOS of your target for the entire 20+ second flight time within 4 km to guide it in, not to mention anyone who pops smoke makes the whole launch useless, and Hellfire Inertia guidance is still broken. On the other hand Vihkrs are extremely fast, theyre direct flight, and they're beam riding so smoke doesnt matter besides making you need to guess where the target is in the smoke; and Spikes are just launch and dive until the SPAA runs out of ammo. Not to mention both Spikes and Vihkrs are good anti-helicopter weapons while Hellfires are almost useless against them.

[@victor02v]

10:40 That's was cinematic xD

[@BelgianAviator]

I love how the preset says 3.3 🙏

[@explodingonc2782]

Clearly Bawz is not very familiar with helicopters... You can press weapon lock key again to unlock, and you can hold collective pitch down key to engage break... Also leading your AA missile is generally a better idea

[@blackshuck1175]

The snail needs to balance choppers. AA range needs to be increased or they need to have their range decreased

[@mochabear88]

you were slinging dimes out the hq

[@Exequor1]

Thats so not fair its unbelivable...

[@vapid8421]

i reckon a vlog channel would be really cool, like showing stuff like working on your cars, i propose for the channel name: OddLifeZ

[@frostedbutts4340]

Nah we need an Oddslyfans for the uncut content

[@boegscom]

Great video as always. It 100% shows why I don’t play above 8.3. None of that looked fun. I’d rather get a root canal at a local pub than try and play in that toxic mess. 😂😂

[@obsidianjane4413]

@1:09 Ooooo are we going to get a Bamikazi video?1?!? @2:35 AP still goes thru all the houses on Japan don't they?

[@isaacjohnson-gg3kb]

Odd, can you do some more heli videos please?

[@aaroncook4513]

“Hold that” 😂😂

[@gellertfilepko6526]

I love hearing the hungarian crew

[@pennycarvalho1223]

The m50 killed the t90m lmao

[@SHEEPS_123]

hey odd, when are you gonna play the xm803 with spooston?

[@Realycc]

you should make a vid on the is4m i think it would be fun to watch

[@zombothedemonneko1315]

Yeah Helis in WT are just to broken especially top tier ones, all you gotta do is sit all the way back near heli spawn and you can kill things so easily, i kinda wish they would nerf the range of heli missiles abit or at least up there spawn in costs, cause Helis are the reason i dont play high tier anymore and stick to around 6.7