Watch This BEFORE You Decide Which Smoker or Grill To Buy

[@hanktrantham2641]

This is the closest to cooking heaven that most of us could ever wish for! I would love to hang out and just watch you as you cook. My arsenal is a Yoder 480S, Weber S430, Vision S, and Blackstones 30” & 22”. Just don’t have the space for an offset. Keep sharing your info and experiences

[@RumandCook]

Thank you sir. Not so bad yourself 😀. It’s an addition I tell ya.

[@bucstart]

Great video and we are very similar in our smoker preferences. I had a KK for over 10 years and until the movers dropped it off the truck and rendered into fractional pieces. KK was easily the most versatile, efficient and hands down the best grill I've ever owned! Convenience = Pellet Grill, but smoke profile on the lower side. Yes, you can increase that with 3rd party accessories, but add some extra cost. I don't cook on gas - just me. Offset Cooker, my absolute favorite to smoke on. No doubt, the learning curve is high, but once you learn your cooker, life is good. My suggestion for new chefs, go with a Kamado style grill, you can cook anything and fine-tune you temperature management and cooking techniques. Finally, find an affordable offset cooker and work with it. For me, there is nothing like building a fire in the box, dialing in the temp and tending the fire. Yes, it is time consuming, but the reward is both therapeutic for me, and delicious for the family. Just my 2 cents!!!

[@RumandCook]

Man shame to lose that KK ☹️. Totally agree with your statements. Thanks for watching!

[@bucstart]

@@RumandCook Nothing like watching a grown man cry!!!!!!

[@RumandCook]

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[@robertbreivogel1868]

This is the best video of its type that I have seen.

[@RumandCook]

Thanks! I appreciate that.

[@swtexan6502]

Just received my Kamado Joe Classic III and recently ordered my Lone Star Grillz pellet grill! Can't wait to cook!

[@RumandCook]

Congrats, sounds like your all geared up and ready to go!

[@avrahambentzvi]

I had a Coleman combination grill for the last decade - 3 burners gas on one side and charcoal grill on the other. It was great. But very bulky for a balcony. Also no longer available where I am. So now I went for flexibility. Got a 2 burner Napoleon gas grill with a side burner shelf which folds down. a Korean bbq griddle pan to go on top of that if more grill/griddle space is needed. Napoleon has a charcoal tray which can be used on top of the gas burners. I was skeptical - but it works. Gas burners light the lump and then you turn them off and it’s a charcoal grill. I also got a small kamado (13 inch) for smoking. So now it’s easier to move things around. In terms of propane tanks. Get two half size tanks instead of one full size. Or a full size one and then a small one. You’ll never run out of propane during a BBQ. just swap over and fill/exchange empty the next day. Thanks for the tips!!

[@RumandCook]

Sounds like you are all setup. Dual tanks is a must have for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@a.mitchell8676]

I know you got a pretty nice collection of grills there. I think it's time you join the Griddle Nation and get a Griddle. BlackStone, Pitboss, don't matter. The Griddle is a great companion to a Grill or Smoker.

[@RumandCook]

LOL I have a griddle insert for the Yoder. I actually put in a larger gas line so I can add the Lynx 30” griddle down the road. Only issue is that an offset just ate up all the room. 😀

[@jschodron6741]

I am kind of a traditionalist and prefer an offset. I have two and was lucky to find an older 1/4” thick steel one that was cheap and required only a good seasoning before using. They do take some extra work but often cook while doing outside chores so I am out there anyway and monitor the temperature on my mobile phone. I think they provide the best smoke flavor. When I am not using my offset, I just use my Weber grill with charcoal. Never really cared for cooking on a gas grill, but that’s just me.

[@RumandCook]

Tough to beat the flavor of an offset. I like gas for quick stuff. Preheats fast and shuts down quick. 🍻

[@darind4920]

That's an amazing collection of grills. I have a coyote Bo Jackson Portable gas grill, which is a premium level grill made of full 316 stainless and with cast stainless burners under $500. Hits 900°. Works great for a small family and will become a camping grill after I upgrade. I also have a locally made offset. Looking to get a Weber summit kamado soon so I can smoke meat more, ever since my son was born it's difficult to carve out time to tend the fire all day. I started smoking on a $500 pellet grill, but after seeing burn back, controller malfunctions, and other issues, I can't bring a pellet grill home until I can afford one that I'm confident won't have issues, probably a Lonestar.

[@RumandCook]

Thanks! Majority of the new pellet grills now use PID controllers so they are much better and safer than they were. Kids def take up time! We have animals I have a bit more free time 😃. The Weber looks interesting. Thanks for watching!

[@michaelholliday6037]

Nice set up Jake!

[@RumandCook]

Thank you sir.

[@iansmccain]

Hey there. I really enjoy your videos; I am a subscriber. For this video, I was surprised by your remarks about the BGE. I recently purchased mine (right before I subscribed to your channel) and did a lot of research on the BGE and KJ beforehand. It was fun researching the companies and products. I like to buy local, and both companies are based about 25 minutes from my hometown. Here are some key points that came to mind while watching that segment of your video: 1) Current BGE models (at least the large) do come with a spring for the lid. Possibly not as strong as the KJ spring, but it is there. I can't imagine anyone of grilling age having an issue raising the lid. Besides, isn't that part of the charm in using a sturdy piece of equipment? Such as the 1975. 2) A pizza attachment is also sold for the BGE (not through BGE - but who cares?). In fact a lot of the best accessories come from 3rd parties (Smokeware, Kick Ash, etc). 3) KJ possibly may lead innovation, but BGE has a more robust community of followers. (Eggtoberfest coming up) 4) You're giving credit to the Yoder for being made in America (agreed!); but you're not knocking the KJ for having it's core components manufactured in a country that antagonizes America. Just a few thoughts. Again enjoy your videos! Thank you for producing the content!!

[@RumandCook]

Fair enough. It’s been awhile since I looked at the BGE world. When I was in the market KJ was an easy choice for me based on features and there was no spring assist available then. I think Smokeware makes some great products and use a couple of them that will work with my KK. I don’t think you can go wrong in either direction. I’ve just always leaned towards KJ based on owning one and a buddy owning a BGE. It’s almost a Ford vs. Chevy thing 😀. You make some great points though! 🍻

[@h.collier3544]

You make it sound like I'm only going to pick one.

[@RumandCook]

LOL 😆 well I would encourage more if it’s an option. Thanks for watching.

[@LyftedDieSeL_Wv]

Since I follow you on both channels which do you think is more versatile? And which one do you enjoy cooking on the most kamado or the 1975

[@RumandCook]

A Kamado grill is the most versatile. Offset has amazing flavor your can’t get in a Kamado, but is a lot more work and can’t do rotisserie and pizza. Hope this helps! 🍻

[@torquebird5130]

Ever thought of adding a drum smoker to your collection? They put out amazind food too.

[@RumandCook]

I had a Weber Smokey Mountain for 3 or 4 years and enjoyed using it. I have looked at the Cotton Gin smokers, they look nice, but I'm not sure it would give me enough of a different flavor over what I have, to justify the cost. Thanks for watching.

[@torquebird5130]

@@RumandCook i understand. Your concern. But if all you did was hang ribs in the drum its worth the investment. Game changer. Take care i enjoy your channel

[@RumandCook]

I may give it a shot at some point. You never know! Happy to hear you enjoy it, thanks for watching.

[@johnknapp6328]

Nice Equiptment Did you happen to consider a Shirley Fabrication by any chance. The Workhorse nice Pit and Priced right looking forward to this year's cooks.

[@RumandCook]

Thank you sir. I pretty focused on Millscale and briefly Franklin. They are similar designs, but the workhorse is 3/8” and has a lot more science behind the design. Lots of quality out there so I don’t think you can go wrong elsewhere.

[@palladini9718]

Get a Masterbuilt Gravity Series Digital Charcoal Grill + Smoker. Versus a pellet grill, these add charcoal flavour, whereas the Pellet grill cannot do.

[@RumandCook]

My Komodo Kamado does the same since it burns lump.

[@worthapost]

can you make video on how different is the taste and feel of the foor cooked in ceramic cooker vs offfset smoker? Thatwill be amazing. we want tot know if the extra hardwork dont with offset cooking is worth or not. thanks

[@RumandCook]

Yep I will be doing some of these soon. Both make great food, but the convection on an offset makes amazing bark. You can’t get that on a Kamado. The smoke flavor is different as well. Seems to get deeper into the meat on an offset. I’ll have videos in April doing more of these. 🍻

[@mcc810]

If I make sure to heat up the kamado slowly during winter, can I then crank the temperature really high and make pizza without it cracking?

[@RumandCook]

Absolutely. Just make sure it’s properly heat soaked before you ramp it up. Thanks for watching 🍻

[@burnedprog]

Hey, your grills look great. A question on the Yoder. Yours looks great, and it looks to be kept outdoors. How often do you refinish it? I am worried about the amount of maintenance I need to do on it. Thanks!

[@RumandCook]

Check out my video on rust protection for the Yoder. It’s been a year and I don’t have one spec of rust since I applied that coating. I have done it a couple times since, but it’s quick. Outside and used all year round, but covered.

[@burnedprog]

@@RumandCook thanks I have seen it! Great channel by the way keep it up! Hopefully I can keep it generally rust free. Yoder is not a cheap grill!

[@RumandCook]

Great, as long as you keep it covered a few applications of that per year you will be in good shape. Thanks for watching!

[@mutsu12]

Great video as always. Gotta ask, what’s the next grill/smoker you’re gonna buy? :D

[@RumandCook]

Hopefully nothing for a little bit 😜. Multiple people have me looking at a drum smoker, but it will be a bit.

[@jeffreygionet5827]

Another excellent video!

[@RumandCook]

Thanks so much!

[@phildickson9508]

Great video! I have had my Yoder YS640s for almost a year now. Replaced my gas grill and WSM and have not had any issue covering any type of meal. Any thoughts on the new Traeger timberline xl?

[@RumandCook]

Thanks! The XL is super pricey, and in the past Traeger's quality hasn't matched the price. They moved manufacturing to China years ago, I'd be very interested to know if it's made in China as well. It does have a 10 year warranty, which is impressive. It still only goes to 500 like the others in their line up. I'm not sure why they set that limitation. I personally could never justify a $3800 pellet grill, there are other "luxury" class pellet grills out there and I just can't see spending that kind of money on a pellet grill.

[@phildickson9508]

@@RumandCook I agree, I liked the fact that the Yoders are manufactured in the US. I am looking into taking some design ideas from the xl. I am going to try and modify my side shelf to custom fit an induction burner.

[@RumandCook]

Yeah I did like that. I also liked the MEATER integration. That was very smart on their part.

[@cheflarree]

Made in China.

[@cheflarree]

Another well presented video.

[@RumandCook]

Thank you sir. Tried to cover enough basics to be valuable, but not put out a feature length film lol.

[@christopheverhoeyen7399]

what is the brand of your offset smoker

[@RumandCook]

That is a Workhorse Pit 1975. Thanks for watching! 🍻

[@houlester]

If you could only keep one and had to get rid of the rest which would you keep?

[@RumandCook]

Komodo Kamado. It’s the most versatile and although not quite the smoke profile of an offset, it makes some great food. Thanks for watching.

[@houlester]

@@RumandCook thanks for the reply. I have a Yoder ys1500 that I enjoy. Keep thinking about getting an offset. My dad cooked on one when I was a kid. Looking at the one you have, mill scale 94, or building one. I have a welder friend. That Kamado you have is awesome. I was close to getting one and went with the Yoder at the time.

[@RumandCook]

If you have the patience then it’s tough to beat an offset 😀. I looked at the millscale as well. It’s a nice pit.

[@EricPetersen2922]

@@RumandCook KK is the best all around, I’ve had mine almost 2 years.

[@RumandCook]

Yeah it does many different types of cooks.

[@thadmccollom6444]

This might be a very abstract question but Im unhappy with the amount of smoke I get from my pellet grill but know that I dont have the space or patience for an offset. This has pushed me to a Kamado Joe. Is the flavor/smoke profile on your Kamado closer to your pellet or closer to the offset? If its a wash on the flavor and its just a matter of versatility I might stick with a pellet style smoker. Thanks for the video, very timely for me!

[@RumandCook]

You’ll be happy with a KJ. You can control how much wood (smoke flavor) you put in to a cook. You can get much more into your meat, just be careful to burn it clean, and don’t add a ton of wood because you can over smoke.

[@thadmccollom6444]

@@RumandCook Thanks!

[@RumandCook]

@@thadmccollom6444 No prob!

[@markusmoses4019]

Cool vid, thanks.

[@ESW206]

Why not mak 2 instead of Yoder

[@RumandCook]

Sorry, I’m not understanding the question?

[@RumandCook]

❓ *What video do you want to see next?* 🍻

[@anttikettunen8601]

"$1300-1400" ... "inexpensive way to get into an offset" uhhh... our ideas of inexpensive do not align.

[@RumandCook]

Clearly you didn’t listen to my opening completely 😀. I explained my options would not be cheap, but they would be the right choice. Just may have to save longer. I made a grill that was out for garbage pickup work for a few years by spending $70 to let it get me by until I could afford a better quality. Inexpensive products don’t last and you end up spending more in the long run. Been there too many times 😀. Thanks for watching!

[@anttikettunen8601]

@@RumandCook yeayea I know. My 1st offset was a POS $100 cheapest one I could find. Why'd I buy that I hear you ask? Because I wanted to test if I really want an offset. As you state, it is a lot of work. Investing $100 to find out that it's not my thing ain't gonna hit me hard. Then again, investing $1000+ on something only to find out it's not for me... different story. The next offset I bought was a better one and if I'm going to get an even better one it's gonna be ... expensive.

[@RumandCook]

The problem with such a cheap offset is you have to work even harder LOL. Congrats on sticking it out hah

[@h.collier3544]

Cheap is not the way to go on an offset. I spent $1200 and spent months making mods and still fought the temp control. My next offset will be in the $3-4k range.

[@anttikettunen8601]

@@h.collier3544 I beg to differ. My first cost me round $100. Why? I wanted to see if offset was for me. If I had spent $1k+ on it, boy I would've felt stupid to find out that offset smoking is not my thing. I was ready to take the hit of $100 but eventually sold it to a friend for $30 and bought a better one. But yes, temp control on cheap pos offset is ... hard. To put it mildly.

[@riverworm5087]

Not a better gas grill on the market? Did you really say that? You need to have a look at the grills made by TEC. TEC held the patent on infra-red using ceramic burners on the bottom and when the patent for that expired (everyone else copied them) then TEC patented their new burners which use glass. Ceramic burners are only 65% infra-red heat whereas the new glass burners are 100% infra-red heat. No comparison! Ceramic burners simply dry out or burn the food IF you aren't on top of it, the glass burners are adjustable from 200f up to 900f - no other gas grill has that sort of range. Ceramic burner s range from 500f to 1,600f (no way to do low and slow) but like I say if you aren't on top of it you'll burn your food - and forget about doing THICK steaks on ceramic; TEC glass is the only way.

[@RumandCook]

You are either a dealer or super passionate about TEC grills 🤣. I’m familiar with them and they make a great product. I’m still not spending $7k for 2 burners. The Lynx Trident burner goes between 300-1000 so it has the flexibility + I have 3 other conventional burners to use as needed. Everyone has their opinion and I stand by mine. I appreciate what you are saying though and again it’s a great product. Just wasn’t for me.