Run Time Tested Proboat Sonicwake V2 Lipo Battery Options

[@Dr_Jet]

You gotta be the hardest working man in The Boat Gang (and your wife must be a saint too). Running boats EVERY day; sometimes 2 videos in a day, I don't know how you find the time..... I really appreciate how you explain things in detail to the newcomers and the inexperienced alike to educate and inform them (my friend Wayne could learn a lot from you - he won't listen to me). I tend to gloss over the "How to" and the "Why" factors in my discussions and focus on throwing ideas out for those who have been in the game for a while and know most of the rules already. Keep up the good work. 👍👍

[@IRONCLADRC]

Man it only takes an hour in the evening to run to the pond and run a boat. I edit my vids in no time shoot I've made over 200 vids now so editing is easy

[@Dr_Jet]

@@IRONCLADRC A trip to the pond for me is a half-day excursion. That's the price I pay for the great weather I suppose......

[@georgegonzalez9281]

@@Dr_Jet I figure you live in Riverside or possibly San Bernardino County if you run boats in Lake Poway. Too bad you don't live closer to LA. I have Legg Lake and Puddingstone Lake both about a 20 min drive from my house. Legg Lake is the place to run model boats - they have a beautiful drivers' stand, pit areas with tables and a 12 foot recovery row boat that's stores under the drivers' stand. You do need to be a NAMBA member to run boats in Legg Lake though. If you're ever in my area and want to run boats hit me up. Cheers!

[@IRONCLADRC]

The park pond is 5 or 6 minutes right up the road. I go to work in the 6AM knock off around 1-2ish, especially in this 104deg heat come home shower, charge a couple battery's then go to the park to let off some steam. then I come home cook dinner for the family & Edit videos

[@georgegonzalez9281]

@@IRONCLADRC Cook dinner for the family?? Now I know why your wife is so tolerant :) Just kidding. My wife and I have an arrangement - one cooks and the other cleans up afterwards. I usually clean up because I suck as a chef. Cheers bro!

[@michaelchamberlain1688]

You answered a lot of my questions in this video, thanks

[@frederickgrassie3383]

Excellent!! I now run a spektrum 6s 100c in my sw v2. Raider 150 going in next week, I'll miss the telemetry, but 200 for the smart firma! The UL 19 runs great on the raider, octura prop, but only run it on 4s. SW v2, 6s all the time. With all your mods added in. Great video as usual, extremely well done and beneficial to all of your followers.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Thanks brother, the cooling mod on the swv2 works 💪 glad I could help brother. VUILD IT IRONCLAD

[@bigfoot2941]

I brought this boat last December it was backed ordered. Finally showed up in February,but i haven't unboxed it yet. Hopefully next month when life slows down.

[@bigfoot2941]

Finally got mine out! Love it its a blast. Need more batteries lol

[@theadmirer_]

Interesting boat, saving up to be ready to pull the trigger for a bigger boat. i Just bought the UDIRC Arrow! Ty for nice video

[@UlisesBatalla]

Look at Home Skillets laps and times! Imagine how much better he would be if he were not talking to us. What a pro!

[@labud75d]

Hello ! Big thank you from Croatia 😃👍

[@IRONCLADRC]

Thanks for visiting. BG4L

[@jimj2683]

It would be interesting to add more and more battery and see at what point the range decreases (at a certain speed).

[@elinvisible1102]

Excellent video as always Can it run 120C battery?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes, absolutely

[@elinvisible1102]

@@IRONCLADRC thanks God bless you

[@FishHardGetLucky]

Perfect video

[@t5king850r]

I love all you're videos but as of late I'm learning about the v2 and this video was helpful as always. Just wondering if different turn Finn like ad 1" to the stock size type of deal but obviously upgrading it. I wonder if it would help the v2 steer or hurt it? Honestly you're v2 is a beast wth seriously!! I haven't had a ton of luck cause of shit batteries that I returned. Seriously you're Honesty is part of why I love the channel. I'm about to purchase new batteries for my v2 and I'm still unclear but definitely not going cheap lol.

[@IRONCLADRC]

I think these are gonna be my next set of 3s packs for my 6s boats. High capacity high discharge. www.ebay.com/itm/165569602925?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=lATtFQtCR7K&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=yQkZS9FcQay&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[@daltonboucher8162]

Stop your gonna make me buy one lol thumbs up my utube friend

[@alandraper9843]

What’s the best prop for a V2 sonic wake

[@ronkausin9707]

A 4519 with stock electronics and 5000 100c batteries is a good combo? No heat problems? Thanks man

[@HappyDude1]

Do you know wich batteries are the best ? My traxxas lipos are junk they all broke in 6 months and 1 in 2 weeks

[@Paufit]

Learning a lot from you....is there an advantage (run time etc.) using one 6S 10000 mAh 100C over two 3S 5000 mAh 100C in the Sonicwake boat..I will be purchasing soon..thanks

[@IRONCLADRC]

I personally like the simplicity of charging one pack compared to two separate packs, as far as performance there's no real gain other than runtime 2 5000mah 3s packs in series is 5000mah 6s. 10000mah single 6s is basically double the running time MAH

[@Paufit]

@@IRONCLADRC so then why is the sonicwake designed for two batteries, I am new here....I would have thought two 5000s would have runtime of one 10000..

[@Paufit]

I should have said ...one 22.2 volt 10000 mAh 6s battery @@IRONCLADRC

[@bik0304]

What are your thoughts on the GEN ace bashing Lipo series for the v2 sonicwake stock?? I was looking at the 6800mah 3s at 120c. Or they have 8000mah 3s at 100c. Thoughts?? Thanks and awesome videos. Love them and I’ve learned so much.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Never tried them, but I've heed there good battery's 👍 check out smc-racing.com he has some killer batteries for the v2 and alot of his batteries are on sale rt now.

[@jcallesano]

B, at about 10:50 into this you mentioned after calling a few passes on Full Throttle to bring it back to quarter throttle to cool everything down. I thought the water pump doesn't work at low speeds?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Don't bring it down to idle speed ,,, just bring it down to from Full speed.

[@Pauly_______]

You said over discharged battery even though it technically it wasn't. Some people may think it was. Terminology can confuse a lot of new people.

[@IRONCLADRC]

To me it was over discharged, a lipo battery will last longer if you don't fully discharge it to 3.2, I like to discharge mine to around 3.6-3.7 overall longer life span

[@vincentsanchez8174]

Will the stock flex cable in the V2 be able to handle the 9500 mah battery? My electronics are all stock, and I’m running the same oxidean marine prop that you ran in the video. 🤙🏻

[@IRONCLADRC]

I broke the stock cable running the 9500 and a 45mm prop. Broke at the connection. Upgrade if possible

[@valuerc2664]

Awesome comparison but you should include max amps batteries

[@IRONCLADRC]

MaxAmps 5450 120c TERRIBLE, just Terrible, the only boat I use them in is the 6s Recoil2, Any other heavy, high performance boat of mine just puffs the battery like a bag of popcorn.

[@valuerc2664]

@@IRONCLADRC so it's true that they are just average overpriced batteries, not any better than decent spectrum batteries for example

[@MaxPower-zp7wy]

Hey B. I'm having issues with my RC Veles with 120C batteries 9000MAH. I know the Dynamite ESC has 720A burst current and these 9000MAH 120,C go way over that and my ESC cuts out. Anything 5200MAH 80 or 100C is ok as long as batteries discharge or burst is less than 720A on these Proboat 120A ESC. I learned the hard way and had already bought the batteries before I found this out. You can only use high C rated batteries if you using a 180A ESC with 1080A burst current but preferably people need to upgrade to ZTW if using big C rated and high AH batteries. Now I'm trying to find a 9000 or 10000mah which are less than 80C that would fit into my Veles and not go over the burst limitations of the ESC and I want these bigger batteries for longer run times. 2S x 2S. Is it possible to get some 10000MAH for 70C rating. 70C X 10A = 700A burst or discharge current. Also Proboat recommend 50C batteries for the Veles. I need to find long but slimmer 2S high MAH batteries.

[@IRONCLADRC]

The Battery's are to heavy, what's happening is the excess weight is creating more amp draw from the esc and its shutting down.. run the smaller lighter weight packs should be good to go. Sorry for the delayed response.... BG4L

[@mattpotter3348]

Great video, learning a lot, forgive basic question please - are the batteries for this boat lipo ‘shorty’ or normal length? I’d like to get my son this boat and need to get the right batteries…

[@IRONCLADRC]

You can run short or longer packs there's alot of room in the battery tray for cg and big packs. Like the 9500 cnhl it's a huge battery fits like a glove

[@mattpotter3348]

Thank you ✊

[@barrywise2773]

I really like and learn from Your vids . Thanks for what You do . ? Is 120C ok in the 5 to 6 000 packs ok stock boat .

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes 120c should be fine. I've run max amps 120c 6s in the v2 with out issue

[@mjb1966]

This was a gret video. I'm a newbie, just getting ready to buy my first boat. FYI, the link to SPEKTRUM BATTERIES is broken. Can you fix that please? Thanks!

[@IRONCLADRC]

Thank you, I got the link fixed in the description, this should save you some time spektrum 5000 100c www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=953aec29-878e-4306-b620-2df85883455e&website_id=70256520-69d3-496b-a06d-cfbf9af7a81d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.horizonhobby.com%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.horizonhobby.com%2Fproduct%2F11.1v-5000mah-3s-100c-smart-hardcase-lipo-battery-ic3%2FSPMX50003S100H3.html

[@cybereye2]

Im new to the powerboat element of the hobby. can you advise me on what gPS to buy? thanks, Big B youre helping a very steep learning curve.

[@IRONCLADRC]

I'm about the purchase thr gns performance analyzer. I e been using the dynimite GPS which has been great. Either one should suffice

[@cybereye2]

@@IRONCLADRC thanks Man!

[@abingham3747]

So your saying that yes you can run a 50c in it correct? I'm. Buying one tomorrow and have a crap ton of 5000mah 50C batteries but no 100C.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yea you can run 50c, 5000+mah no lower 50+c no lower

[@abingham3747]

@@IRONCLADRC Awesome. I went ahead and bought a couple 100C batteries but good to know i can use my 50s. Thanks for the reply.

[@Ricknrobin420]

Nice video Big B i need more help understanding watts and amps for the lipo batteries how to figure out how many amps I am drawing would be nice if there was more information but on a side note I ordered me a Rico racing class one skater yesterday going do build it as a twin electric so excited 😁

[@IRONCLADRC]

You and me both. I still don't get all that technical stuff

[@Dr_Jet]

@@IRONCLADRC Watts are a unit of power. Roughly 750 Watts equals one horsepower. Watts are defined as Volts times Amps. Motor constants are not part of the equation. If a 100% efficient motor was turning a given propeller and drawing 75 Amps at 10 Volts, that motor would be putting out one horsepower at the shaft to turn that prop. A 100% efficient motor motor drawing 10 Amps at 75 Volts would also be putting out one horsepower at the shaft although a different propeller would most likely be necessary to achieve those exact numbers. The "magic" is in maximizing efficiency of the entire system (the entire boat and all its components).

[@IRONCLADRC]

Thanks doc

[@Dr_Jet]

@@IRONCLADRC The hard part is the blueprinting, the trimming, the tuning, the tweaking, and well, you know the rest. Watts are the easy part. Finding the instantaneous Amp draw and Voltage is more complicated, but I think your Spectrum system will give you those numbers. You might find one prop is 5% faster but 10% less efficient than another prop. This information will help chose a prop for a particular situation.

[@SithEnthusiast12]

Sorry Noob question:do boat brands matter with battery brands or can you put any boat battery in any boat?,on a budget but i just got the Stealthwake an wanna go faster then what stock is.

[@IRONCLADRC]

From brand to brand matters, as for your stealth wake you need to figure out if the esc is capable of handling lipo battery, there's more than likely a pin that needs to be moved from nimh to lipo, find out the maximum voltage the esc will Handel more than likely 7.4v which is 2s. 3200 50c 2s 7.4v would be perfect for that boat

[@am12eaz93]

I have 2 6800 gensace bashing series v2 120c and just ordered 2 x 8000mah 100c gensace bashing batteries do you think the latter will give me considerable longer runtime , im thinking weight. Etc but i have not run either sets as of yet.

[@IRONCLADRC]

You should get longer running time, with the extra weight from the higher mah packs consider going up on the trim tabs, the extra weight will help hold the boat down at speed ( shouldnt take much)

[@am12eaz93]

Thanks buddy love the videos watching all the way from the u.k keep em coming ​@IRONCLADRC

[@Wazza722]

Did you mod the boat to fit a single 6s in?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Ic5 jumper is all that's needed

[@michaelvoorhees5978]

Seems like you'd only want to run huge batteries. I can't stand changing batteries lol. I can't decide on this boat and the bj42.... I'm new to boats and just got the udi arrow 5 a couple weeks ago and love it but already want more speed!!! Lol I'd rather have the sonic since it's self righting. I have a kayak but don't want to have to carry it to me cousins 600' long pond or the lake. My issue is I have 6 4s 120c 9500mah Batts for my traxxas xrt so that makes the bj42 tempting. I have 3 3s 2200 120c for the arrow 5. I hate to have to buy a bunch of 3s batteries now if I get the sonic..... I despise short run times!!! Help me. Which do you like between the sonic and bj42 in my situation? I have plant of fairly smooth lakes I can go to also. Another thing. My batteries all have female xt60 terminals. What adapters do I need for the pro boat end of the plugs? Edit after finishing the video. I like the idea of using that 1 big 6s battery!!! I'm gonna go look at the price of those. I'm gonna want at least 3 runs worth of batteries. Any advantage of 2 3s instead of 1 6s????

[@IRONCLADRC]

Get the blackjack 42 you have the Battery's it's one of my actually it's my favorite proboat. Regardless of selfrighting. You won't be disappointed. Oxidean 5016 3blade will have that bad boy on rails

[@michaelvoorhees5978]

​​@@IRONCLADRCthanks for the fast reply. After finishing the video I'm kinda settled on the sonic now. Lol can you reread my comment above? I added a little to it. And what's the out of the box approximate speed difference? Seems they're both in the 50s and that's fine for me for now. I think the self righting is pretty big to me

[@michaelvoorhees5978]

@@IRONCLADRC ordered the sonic today and 2 zeee 6000 100c and 2 8000 100cs

[@urbanarborist1160]

I'm looking for feedback here... but I think the stock V2 prop is just a touch too small. Needs more push power. I find that it struggles to come up on plane or stay on top of the water in tight turns. If you are "spinning your wheels" so to speak, but not going anywhere, doesn't that translate to wasted energy? Bigger prop with more surface area to pop out of the hole faster is more short term strain on the electronics , but at least the boat isn't "wallowing" struggling to come up on the water? I'm more asking than telling here. 🤔 As you mention in this video your run time is better with the 4519 prop over the stock prop. Always awesome videos B.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes sir run time, low end take off & top end is better tlwith the 4519 oxidean. Or a 642 octura

[@mason.chasin678]

What’s that red padding your using to hold your batteries? Cause on my first run the battery came completely loose from the Velcro and disconnected

[@IRONCLADRC]

Preschool building blocks lol. I strip them down on my table saw

[@mason.chasin678]

@@IRONCLADRC interesting lol, thx

[@JoaoPaulo-pb9zv]

Shout out Big B, after owning z donicwake only for two weeks and having problems the retailer sent me a new receiver and the erratic running a low speed continued, so i eas asked to return the boat for testing. Today they made me a call because even with the video i sent to then they did not see what was the problem, but they asked what batteries i was using and after saying that were gens ace 3s 5000 mha 60c they said that was the culprit of the situation. They are new batteries and they have no problem. The problem is at low throtle i would much appreciated if you could give me your oppinion.

[@IRONCLADRC]

cavitation could be the issue? can you send a video of the issue? [e-mail]

[@JoaoPaulo-pb9zv]

@@IRONCLADRC No Big B is not cavitation it seems that after a pass at a decent speed when cornering you let down the throtle and then when you give throtle again it hesitates giving some pulses until get on plane. The esc has that cap pack that prevents riple voltages... but i asked the retailer to try another esc, it maybe the cause.

[@JoaoPaulo-pb9zv]

Sorry but if i send the video is not a good quality video and its Portuguese you maybe will not understand what me and my son we are saying, but let me ask you a question. If you will drop the 5000 mha 50c in the v2 the boat would run normaly without hesitations only it would nit have the same performance... right.?

[@IRONCLADRC]

With out seeing the issue first hand it's hard to pinpoint the problems.. I have a sonicwake v2 on the way it should be here this week, maybe I can help once I get my boat on the water

[@JoaoPaulo-pb9zv]

@@IRONCLADRC Ok if you could help me on that matter brother because i am not a profitional what i know is from seing your videos and other you tubers and i like the sonicwake v2 a lot but right now i need a man of the business oppinion. The retailer said to me that the v2 does not run well because my batteries are 50c discharge... what a nonsense.THESE 3S 5000 MHA 50C WILL GET HOTTER THEY CAN PUFF WITH USE THE BOAT WILL NOT HAVE ITS MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE ,but in the end the boat must run smooth and without any kind of hesitations specially, specially at low speed. Your experience is my guidance on this matter,please tell i am wrong!

[@stevenmartin8764]

Big b what is your favorite battery at this point in time? 💪🏼 boat gang

[@IRONCLADRC]

Smc racing! SRD for speed, HCL-HP for speed & runtime, HCL-HC for runtime

[@stevenmartin8764]

@@IRONCLADRC I love smc myself! What mah ratings are you referring to

[@IRONCLADRC]

@@stevenmartin8764 I like the 150c for best bang for buck

[@MaxPower-zp7wy]

Hey Ironclad. I asked you a Q about my new Veles boat. This time I have a Q for my Atomic boat. What batteries do you recommend me for long running times for a Volantex Atomic SR85 Catamaran. It's running a 1750KV and the ESC is upgraded from stock 80A to a 120A one. I've been running a 4S 4200mah 30C and the battery is only lasting like 3-4mins. I'm not even running it half or full throttle. Please help. And are 80C batteries good enough what ever the mah ?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Check the measurements on these batteries, there inexpensive & has great run time www.smc-racing.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=726

[@MaxPower-zp7wy]

@@IRONCLADRC Thanks.

[@jackpremiumaccount]

Does a bashing 11,000Mah 4S battery too much for this? I have two of them

[@IRONCLADRC]

It's on the heavy side yes

[@petertebo914]

I got a question about charging I have some 2s batteries that seem not to be charging they r 5% I have a prophet sport mini charger it won't go to any other color besides red and green I have xt90 connectors how do u clean them

[@IRONCLADRC]

The balance lead from the battery could be dirty/corroded. Use a stiff wire, stick in each balance lead hole on battery one at a time! Move the wire around in each balance lead hole knocking the dirt & corrosion off

[@petertebo914]

ok thank u for info

[@alandraper9843]

My supersonic V2 is stock out of the box just wanna change the stock prop

[@IRONCLADRC]

I've been recommending the oxidean marine 4519 or octura 642. Both great props

[@Pauly_______]

You need a t shirt that says your chant😊

[@dinomujkovic2534]

Wich boat do you rekomend for just playing around?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Recoil 2 has been a fun boat

[@mason.chasin678]

Does your EC5 loop connector spark when you plug it in ?

[@IRONCLADRC]

It will every once in a while, if it does don't worry to much..

[@mason.chasin678]

@@IRONCLADRC ok thanks

[@hoodatdare7039]

COFFIE TIME B

[@mason.chasin678]

Is there any alert or alarm for when the battery gets low?

[@IRONCLADRC]

I actually just got some smc precision lipo alarm kits, video coming soon. www.smc-racing.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=559

[@paulmcfarland1941]

Would 2x 3s 9000mah 100c be to much weight in this boat???

[@IRONCLADRC]

I doubt it only o e way to find out.

[@gMcizzLeFilms]

I'm running 2x 3s 9700mah 120c, runs great and very long, like 10+ mins

[@JuanSQuiP]

@@gMcizzLeFilms no problem fitting those 2 big batteries inside the boat?

[@gMcizzLeFilms]

@@JuanSQuiP nope no issues. I also have 2x CNHL 9700MAH 3s batteries, fit perfectly

[@mason.chasin678]

What batteries will get the most run time

[@IRONCLADRC]

Look for batteries with higher MAH ratings. IMO single 6s pack is best for longer run times. SMC HCL-HP 7600 150C 6s is a good choice

[@FLSharkdiver]

How does the ESC run vs the Stock one?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Much better

[@petertebo914]

how much a 6s china hobby weigh

[@IRONCLADRC]

About 900grams

[@Web_Surfer_1]

okay ?

[@bigfoot2941]

So I can run a 5000 50c?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yep

[@bigfoot2941]

Ok that will help til I get more batteries.

[@PatriotBrad]

my 6s 6600 cnhl outruns my dads spectrum v2 5000 v2 easily and I run harder. Spectrum def not worth the money. The 6200 3s twins cnhl race packs last even longer.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Wish I could of run the spektrum packs in this video I had just discharged them in the ul-19. I like the spektrum batteries I actually got my all time pb i1mph with the veles 29 spektrum 5000 100c twins. I'm a out to pull the trigger on those cnhl 6600's. Those batteries are bad to the bone

[@PatriotBrad]

@@IRONCLADRC for $115 the twi. 6600 racing cnhl packs are great. Switching to larger connectors because ec5s cant hang!

[@dirtysoufracing6029]

Boat is on backorder can't buy one

[@IRONCLADRC]

www.ebay.com/itm/295115157418?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=1P-3-Ng_QwC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=yQkZS9FcQay&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[@sebw3964]

5minutes is like nothing😐 That's not much fun for the Money to be honest.Does 2x3S 9000mah works in this boat?

[@JuanSQuiP]

well, that depends on how hard you pull the trigger. But I'd also like to know whats the biggest battery combination, for 2 battery packs, you could fit inside the boat. Space looks tight.