Runescape's quest log is useless | Unguided #34

[@Limpwurt]

I love this series, it really reminds me of how I used to do quests back in the day. I was stuck on ernest the chicken for two weeks.

[@Edamori]

The biggus limpwurtus

[@AlienFoodage]

Thank you king

[@EverTruu]

That was the hardest f2p quest back in the day

[@azoniarnl3362]

I brute forced it for like an hour before getting lucky.

[@TheWaller]

Aah the memory's. English wasn't my first language, so I basically guessed my way through several f2p quest. It was hell

[@J1mmy]

settled watched me do Tai Bwo Wannai Trio the other day on an alt and we concluded that any pre-2007 quest taking place in Karamja was made as rage bait. I wish they still had the old "quest guides" on the official RS website since it would basically give players way better hints than the quest log would, but still doesn't justify this damn quest design lmao, it's a miracle you've gotten this far

[@AlienFoodage]

It’s so true why did they literally make all the quests on this island so horrific. Was it some sort of testing area they ended up turning into a real location Love your stuff bro thanks for the comment

[@etherealpenguin8683]

runescape classic era quests are just old and crusty, the ones that havent been updated anyway, also you gotta remember the game was a lot smaller back then so wouldve been easier to figure things out/less things to try/places to search, also most of the players back then (not to mention the people who made the game) were point & click adventure and rpg nerds who played stuff like DnD, monkey island etc, mainly adults coz most kids/teens didnt have a PC and internet when RSC was around and they were untainted by wikis and plugins and used to obscure puzzles and shit, they had the brain for this kind of stuff already is what im trying to say, when we came along with our tiny kid brains in rs2 most of this stuff went right over our heads and now the games evolved outside of itself to the point where we dont even see the need to update these quests because theres so much info out there that just playing the game and not having a wiki open on a second monitor or using a quest plugin is seen as you being dumb for not using those resources rather than the game/quest design being dumb in the first place

[@Twyzan]

I think the quests are exactly as difficult as they should be. Fucking love getting stuck on some inane riddle and solving it. In fact, it's what I don't love about some of the recent quests where it feels like more of the difficulty comes from the boss, than the riddles. The riddles are so good in older quests. The fact that they take some figuring out is what makes them fun.

[@RockinAfr0]

Omg those quest guides I remember!!! And it was always funny how they were only made available 1 week after release and they usually had these funny flavor texts to describe why the hints were not there yet, like being on fire or I believe a pirate quest had "the ship carrying the hints was sunk by pirates, we're currently trying to fish them up" as flavour text for example. They were always quest related puns and I miss those a little now :')

[@johnathandoe6892]

A lot of quests are harder than they were on release though, since the game has changed since when they were released. Unguided's trouble with Family Crest is a great example.

[@laggi_boi4231]

That cat is on life support 95% of the series

[@CharlotteMimic]

LMAO

[@TheQuackleDKZ]

Actually made me laugh out loud cause it just hit me how often the cat is screaming for food!

[@Zalied]

the worst part is whenever its semi bored or hungry it stops growing. so the 3 hours it takes to grow the cat quickly becomes like 4,6,8,10....

[@blabla903]

I like how playing the game normally is so uncommon that you can make a video series about it.

[@ThirdXavier]

its really only for quests I feel like most of them were designed around players collaborating and giving each other hints on how to beat them in-game chat, but people don't talk in there like they did in 2006 plus osrs is built off adventure games so a lot of the time they use batshit adventure game puzzle logic which was always infamous for not making sense

[@darkychao]

>A huge, strangely-constructed doorway. The doorknob is a glass orb. "Would doing Charge Water Orb on it make any sense? I don't think so..." AAAAAAA

[@Ch1pp007]

I've seen a lot of comments on older videos like "Dude's obviously reading guides and faking it." and I think this debunks that. No one would ever think to pretend to struggle that long on the door, ignoring the massive hint, if they were faking it.

[@davidedds6562]

​@@Ch1pp007 he's got you right where he wants you!

[@AlienFoodage]

Watching that back whilst editing was painful af

[@SYCPrescott]

seriously, how many hints are needed, 59 magic req, charge water orb is the only spell at that level, wind strike maybe?

[@deo6797]

Yeah this guy is fucking painful to watch

[@JoshIsnt]

I was so confused about the Curse part, never remember having to do that when doing this quest, but now reading the comments it looks like you discovered a forgotten mechanic of this quest. Just more reasons why this series is so special

[@AlienFoodage]

It’s so cool as I assumed it was an integral step in the quest only to upload and then find out hardly anybody knew it was even possible lol

[@Renteks-]

The curse spell actually working is exactly the kind of batshit insane moments of quest logic that I watch this series for. Had no fucking idea you could even do that, it's not even on the wiki, and it's not even necessary or helpful for the quest, yet you found it. Missing the extremely obvious charge orb makes this feel so real too, it's so easy to tunnel vision and miss the solution in plain sight. Love this series, looking forward to the 12 part legend's quest series

[@TheRileyg98]

I mean it makes sense "something that doesn't harm will weaken his control" but that it only works when the demon has had its control wrested away by Ungudalu makes it an entirely hidden dialogue. Makes me wanna ask Mod Ash what the triggers for it are

[@PhenomRom]

@@TheRileyg98please do

[@stephenberg6438]

I'm so glad you got baited by the curse/weaken/confuse thing too. That got me good, and I'm pretty sure nobody who uses guides would know about it, because it serves LITERALLY no purpose other than to fuck with players who try to engage with the game as intended. Edit: Holy cow I commented too soon. I can't believe that actually does something. I literally gave up and lucked into the book.

[@BioMasterZap]

Suprised me too. I wonder if that dialog appears regardless or if it was the specific spell that triggered it.

[@stephenberg6438]

@@BioMasterZap I tried every non-damaging spell I had access to in every order with no success, so I think it was the very specific sequence and timing that did it here.

[@DaemonRayge]

I think that was the intended way to do it. However, given the way the quest was coded, there likely wasn't any specific progression checks to "force" you to do it and you can literally just skip that step, and get into the cave section right away.

[@Moothead2]

The wiki doesn't even mention it because it isn't required to get the book. It's genuinely amazing that he figured this out.

[@Astrospill]

Going to the bank and searching "jade" had my laughing until it brought tears to my eyes. This is my favorite Runescape series, please keep up the good work!

[@RamiraX]

'This game is testing me and I will win' is possibly the most OSRS quote that ever existed. Also, love how you actually 'solved' the 'curse riddle' (though slightly bruteforced, you have to cast the spells in order of how they're mentioned per Day)! I've never seen someone do that :-).

[@JeffJefferson69]

Man, legend’s quest is such a relic of its time where “difficulty” equated to tedium and vagueness. Hopefully no other questline has a sequel where this concept is pushed to its limit!

[@TheRileyg98]

I think part of it is it's a quest by Mod Tytn, and he was like this in his quests. Shilo Village, Jungle Potion, Tourist Trap, Nature Spirit, OSF. All by Tytn, he's got a distinct love for item based puzzles it seems.

[@Zoinkwiz]

The whole curse thing is pretty incredible, from the crowdsourcing I've seen it doesn't seem like anyone since it's been tracked has encountered it before from what I have access to! I wouldn't be surprised if a stage I just have a 'No step 9 encountered' note on in Quest Helper turns out to be doing this. Loving the series also, you've done an incredible job showing off both the joys, and pains, of questing, and really throws me back to first starting out in the game. Can't wait for more!

[@AlienFoodage]

Legend! I was waiting for the day that the creator of everyone’s favourite plugin commented

[@Skeldoor]

The payoff from watching you succeed after doubting yourself for so long is just fantastic, love it

[@OneTimeImp902]

The 31 extra cut jades in the bank is comedy gold hahaha

[@Trolldamere]

Where tf did he even get those?? He's never mined the gem rocks before... would he have done tempoross either? I kind of doubt it... Sure there might be some random one-off way to get a jade here and there, but... having a stockpile of 31 of them!?!?? Yeah I'm confused af. Where the hell did he get those?

[@Lumborn]

​@@TrolldamereHe did do some Tempoross :) Hence he got a lot of different fish as well. He mentioned it a few, maybe a lot, of videos ago!

[@SpinoneJR]

33:15 You've been trying to open the door for hours and you think that the Bookcase is what the elders used to block off the entrance?!?!?! Its the DOOR!

[@civilservant9528]

It would funnier lorewise if it was the bookcase, though

[@oskaril9445]

Best series on the platform right now, hands down

[@ab2020-f4z]

easily the best osrs series that's happening rn, such a refreshing change of pace from videos that are essentially just supercuts of "just got X level or Y cool item". i hope more people catch on and you get the subs/attention you deserve! eagerly awaiting all the future episodes as the quests get more and more wild :)

[@HarryWuzHere]

your voice has subconciously become the voice of the player in runescape for me, it just fits so well idk why its perfect

[@asdzxc4047]

One of the doors of all time. Literally and figuratively. Soon legend!

[@AlienFoodage]

😂😂 Legend!! Thank you so much for the incredibly generous donation, your support is greatly appreciated as always

[@Martlns]

God I love the series. Makes me feel like I am actually following the story.

[@AlienFoodage]

Glad you’re and enjoying and thanks for the support! 🫡

[@moonikaillisson]

"I feel a bit sick" cracked me up a little too much. Congratz on defeating the door!

[@FrayRS]

These vids are my happy place - its like injecting pure nostalgia into my veins 😍

[@Famousjunkiiee]

going through the struggle , to eventually come to the point where you have the 'Charge Water Orb' in mind , to go and bank get everything ready , be excited to FINALLY have somewhat of a break-through and then going to the door and your lockpick gets broken.. i am sorry but i laughed sooo hard , knowing the pain to go back and get a new one. What a wonderful series you have going on here. I loved every video so far and it takes me back to 2004-2007 where i also did quests this way.. No way in hell i would've come this far. Congratz!

[@tothepast]

Gz man, you are actually doing it. Legends without guide had probably a steeper learning curve then endgame content. This is history

[@YamiNoAruji]

I really hope the mods of jagex watch this series. They could get so much good feedback on how to improve quests from it.

[@Litepaw]

Yeah and making changes to the quest log would be a really easy thing to do

[@Eliwood407]

Agreed, I think they should actually hire people to play test their old quest. It's not just old it's also British, some riddles or dialog does not come across the same to the rest of the world.

[@Girvo747]

Modern quests are way way better. I do them all without guides haha

[@Eliwood407]

@@AzureXenon Yeah your're right, no one actually HIRES QA testers anymore these days. Out of this world idea by this age.

[@Eliwood407]

@@AzureXenon Something you should consider is that no one is going to vote against fixing up quest log text. 99% of the players use runelite to just run through the quests anyway. Adding new better content only makes the old content show its age in how poorly they were implemented. No mmo should only focus on new content, and not adjust old content to work with current standards. And thankfully the OSRS team is looking at old content and fixing it up or adjusting it for QoL improvements, sadly it is the stubborn "My Nostalgia" players that hold them back so much. I'm not talking about localizing the game to japanese either. Its a British game, and the old quests and dialogue really show. I'm talking about adjusting certain phrases or words to work for generalized english where they currently do not, to prevent confusiing players during things like puzzles or riddles. I'm going through the quests with my partner, no runelite no guides. I give hints when we are absolutely stumped, and in some cases the solution to a riddle is so far detached from the riddle itself. Gielenor isn't a small grid spanning from Varrock to Lumbridge to Falador anymore, and it has so many extra items since then that serve only to do more guesswork at what you are actually meant to use on a puzzle. So why are you advocating against improvements in quest dialogue or quest log? Or are you not opposed to these changes but think you know what Jagex does and does not care about? Or are you the type that think quests may as well not have dialogue at all because you just click the blue text options and highlighted items on your screen until a quest complete screen gives you your unlocks?

[@Litepaw]

The Doorknob Is a *_Glass orb_*

[@AlienFoodage]

I’m A Silly Guy

[@135791max]

The number of times I stared at that text appear in the past few episodes and hoped it would click for him. The satisfaction I got when he finally figured it out. Definitely a silly guy vibing.

[@DaDragon555]

@@135791max I'm still not convinced he figured it out... he just ran out of other ideas

[@ollirune]

@@DaDragon555 That's still figuring it out. It's called process of elimination :)

[@grisselmangames5750]

Really enjoyed this series it’s nice to see an I depth look at quests on an Ironman and not just a quick cut from the start of the quest to the completion pop up

[@cmosser144]

You’re an absolute legend! You’ve inspired me to finish the rest of my quest log without the plugin or guides (unless I get stuck on a step for 1+ hours or fail a boss fight 10+ times due to not understanding mechanics). I’ve got so much more respect for you bashing your head against the wall without taking the easy way out. Keep up the good work!!

[@alabasterleech]

I am myself currently on my way to getting my first quest cape, much more guided, and watching this series really makes me appreciate having guides because some of this stuff I would never figure out.

[@0opssorry]

Was introduced to you from a FrayRS shout out. Instantly addicted and have been watching all your videos up to the current legend's quest. Really looking forward to watching you work through the puzzles during Recruitment Drive!

[@JSalamonTutoring]

This has so quickly become my favorite OSRS series on youtube, and I hope this channel takes off

[@xEric1993]

Best series on KZbin and I don’t just mean OSRS. People giving you a tough time for getting stuck are very much underestimating the difficulty imo. You are doing MUCH better than I would be doing if I had no guides

[@DrewTheKid_]

YES. I’ve never done this quest and everything is soo cryptic. I’m even more lost 😅

[@Wentr-z]

dammmmmmit, the cliff hangers are killing me! has easily become my favorite series and its really hard for me to get into any osrs series on youtube. cant wait for the next one!

[@reallyreason6354]

Discovered this series a few days ago, and it's my new favorite OSRS series. So many of the quests are so obtuse. Looking forward to MEP2 and Song of the Elves.

[@HRFMumbles]

The light puzzles were turbo shit even with a guide 😅

[@Jessehietajesseh]

They arent even that bad without a guide compared to Legends Quest tbh

[@mikkoitasalo8940]

I completed sote on the day of release without a guide. Took me solid 7 hours. (Also alot of people to follow the same time)

[@TheMicky1114]

This series is great. Hurts my heart at times when as an outsider we know the answers but its brilliant to see the struggles! Keep going my guy~ you’re doing way better than I would 😂😂 I would’ve gave up long ago

[@Stijn23789]

Just got this recommended. Hooooly shit the dedication you have. Love it! Will be binging all previous eps and will be kindly waiting for the next one.

[@rory6987]

Man, this was so fun to watch 😂And I love the quick cutaways of future you lamenting the obliviousness. Great vid

[@Mega_Umbreon]

Just came from the previous video, this series is amazing. I got referred from Josh Isn't's castle wars video, so glad I did. I love seeing the problem solving process and your happiness when you finally reach solutions is so infectious. The dry humour is the cherry on top. A well earned channel membership, keep it up.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Another banger. Keep it up. This series is kept up by your refusal to quit and your extremely dry English charisma. 😁👍🏻 I love it.

[@DeluxeFlame]

I love that I don't remember the answers either, that gem appearing on the stalagmite made me gasp! Like it gave me that feeling as if I was witnessing the first person ever to discover the answer.

[@LPcrazy_88]

15:44 Most relatable thing in this series yet, lol.

[@e_j9313]

dude i'm loving this series, each of your wins feels huge!

[@Brettyoke49]

Your editing is insane; so funny watching editor you dunk on past you all the time.

[@jasonannitto7855]

My favorite series to watch every friday! Always get such nostalgic feelings

[@DrewTheKid_]

I’ve never done this quest and I am even more lost than you. You are a puzzle guru for solving the things they are asking for because this is insane. You deserve very high praise!

[@aarondreyer]

Got my quest cape using guides a couple years back now. I think the most recent was probably a night at the theatre which was released June 2021. So watching these now I never refresh my memory and can't remember a thing just like how you are doing it. Great series, every episode is a banger. Keep it up.

[@bigtrex5]

Favorite series strikes again!

[@diagonal_leg]

I've been binging this series last week. Can't begin to tell you how good it is and how excited I've been for this ep! Good luck on your future endeavors, love this series

[@McMacMastaMan]

Is Runescape just ... a thinly veiled point and click adventure?

[@scrimbingus]

It really is, except instead of dozens of items you can mindlessly use on everything you encounter, you have hundreds!

[@McMacMastaMan]

@@scrimbingus The Horror

[@Mickymicmike]

Always has been.

[@Dhemize]

I'd call it a point and click rhythm game at its core

[@chalupanotomatoes9609]

​@@Dhemizemy 13 year old self had no rhythm 😅

[@ericmayer4100]

Eyy! So happy to see your videos are popping off lately! I've been really enjoying these episodes, and they are so well done. This quest is truly an achievement when completed like this, lmao. Looking forward to seeing this quest complete!

[@d3iz3l1]

Really can't say how much I'm obsessed with this series lmfao, it's just to good mate😂😂

[@TheRileyg98]

I actually never knew curse would work on ungadulu. But now you understand why so many people were trying to hint to you about the glass orb in comments... I do believe you could have cast any charge spell on it but water is the lowest magic required.

[@AlienFoodage]

I’ve got this comment a lot! Had no idea I was stumbling onto something that hadn’t been known by many, so cool. Thanks so much for the generous donation, I really really appreciate the support

[@CaneFan423]

Just binged this series over the past few days or so lol. Loving it

[@Jorvalt]

The thing you hadn't considered was the 56 magic requirement means even non-irons need to be able to cast Charge Water Orb, the lowest level Charge Orb spell. If it was the orbs themselves you need, then you'd be able to buy them as a non-iron. Also, there's a glass orb in the door.

[@GreedyRadish]

I don't really have anything to add. I just love this series and wanted to leave a comment for the algorithm.

[@elvircrn]

Milions of videos get uploaded on yt every week, yet this is the only series that I look forward to!

[@sparknight70]

Man, this series takes me back to the good old days. When the game was about having fun and exploration, and efficiency was the last thing on my mind. The Old School I long for, but will never be able to re-attain. Thank you for this series, it is a breath of fresh air for the community!

[@coreyap186]

I haven't even seen the video yet but when I got the notification and saw the video was 37 minutes long I was so happy. This truly was the best Friday in awhile.

[@proudpatriot3491]

I’m 5 or 6 quests from my cape and I can’t even imagine doing most of those quests without runelite. You are a legend

[@sam_marley]

Cheers algorithm. New series to watch. Well done on making a 40 minute video on getting through one door so interesting, subbed

[@TheMousegod]

Bitter sweet that I'm caught up. This series is gunna go down as a hood classic. this is up there with boss locked and settleds series for me, just being so different and chill.

[@collinwilliams9690]

I love this series. It’s crazy to think back to the parts you remember and the parts you don’t . I knew the gems and water orb but never in a million years would I have gotten the cast curse part.

[@aCeruleanStateMusic]

One of the absolute best on-going series

[@Dynamic_Pear]

This is one of the best series on KZbin - thank you so much for your consistency!

[@caslikes]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO fav series rn strikes again!!

[@JM-mg4el]

Progress! Happy easter mate

[@AlienFoodage]

Happy easter mate!

[@snowclone5650]

this is the best series on youtube right now! keep it up 🎉

[@DJ-mb8ly]

Painful watch, can't wait for the next one! ❤

[@OnTheBackOfBullets]

I love how frustrating this series can be to watch, and how much genuine relief I feel as just the viewer when you figure out something you've been stumped by for hours.

[@RyHarr22]

The "Jade" realization had me cackling.

[@stieviewon30]

Great way to start the weekend after a rough week! Love this series

[@nobularlol]

nice one man feel up to date with everything now :) was an adventure and i look forward to seeing what is to come! much goodness to you!

[@birdy_coolbeans]

it's always a good day when there's a new unguided ep!

[@nicholaskirton1459]

Hands down best series, I joined by the 3rd episode and loved it. Been subbed ever since! Good luck!

[@catalyst336]

just knowing whats coming in the quest gives me anxiety lol. most interesting rs series ive found in a long long time.

[@nctwl]

i literally just finished watching the last one to see this posted 30m ago lmao. its really fun watching you do quests that i struggled doing even with the wiki.

[@JP-np4zl]

absolutely loving this series - keep up the awesome work man!

[@aBamieh]

I LOVE THIS SERIES. really thank you

[@KirneKirneKirne]

Absolutely love this series, keep it up man

[@marisasob]

The reason i have a completely organised bank is because i always was in the opinion that on unorganized bank loses a lot of time. You not seeing your gems is a perfect example 😂 Great series man! ❤

[@brad6279]

This series is so good please keep it up

[@SethKeene]

Yay I get to watch as these videos release now! I’m part of the cool club 😂 probably my favorite OSRS series at this point

[@NickHermans]

mate the doorknob looks like an orb fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[@lipvandip6480]

Me when he checked the magic requirement in the log, saw that you unlock something at that level and completely disregarded it

[@rikurautasalo3192]

Kiitos!

[@AlienFoodage]

Thank YOU! Thank’s so much for the incredibly generous donation and support in the channel. It’s greatly appreciated

[@dandelion44444]

Oisit ostanu mielummi kopan kaljaa

[@kumicables]

perfect timing! i just finished binging the series yesterday

[@MRAMAZRBALLZZ]

How have I only just found your channel?!?!? Going back to watch from the start

[@nickjanssens6991]

I just watched 2 40-minute videos about you figuring out how to open a door which i already knew. And it was still entertaining. Been binge watching the series atm, sad that i'm almost caught up tbh

[@ThibChar]

This series is great! It's so hard not to scream the answers in the comment section sometimes

[@CastlevaniaFreak]

Best OSRS series on KZbin.

[@Bxsi95]

Letsfkngooo - now they can call this good friday 🎉

[@xS3T0x]

This Public holidays like a slayer task, they're good with a beer but they're superior now.

[@JackdawWatcher]

Happy Friday!

[@AlienFoodage]

Happy Friday all!

[@kpforthevids]

So close, so many times, it was vindicating to WATCH you figure it out, would've been epic to have a facecam on that!

[@Celastrous]

Man, Legends quest really is cool as hell

[@kingdude2089]

Don't give up my friend! You're doing great :)

[@jaybennett5558]

This series is amazing

[@TannerDaGawd]

Ahhh my man figured the door out! Congratulations! You're a legend

[@councilhearts1514]

Enchant vial "I think it's hungry" Comedy gold

[@AliJ5533]

This sequence was so interesting to watch compared to my own unguided attempt at this part of the quest. I figured out the Charge Water Orb door pretty much immediately, which worked to my detriment because I completely blanked on the stalagmites for the longest time. I was stuck at the winch prematurely with no clue what to do next, and because I had also found the Curse mechanic to get Ungadulu to tell me about the Book of Binding, I deduced that it must be in one of the barrels nearby and just spent ages fruitlessly smashing them.

[@mr.kittysavestheworld695]

Always excited for Friday to roll around, best OSRS series running right now. So much more engaging than the endless unoriginal slew of "ultra-mega-hardcore/one chunk only/one skill only/1mil GP per click."

[@WildHalo03]

so amazing, this still deserve so much more attention

[@jameszinn9932]

Naming convention reminder 🥰 - Amazing series!