Running and Gunning | DCS OH-58D Kiowa Warrior .50 Cal Machine Gun

[@m2fw815]

@CasmoTV Old school guy here training for high intensity conflicts - for hover fire the technique is to start from a stationary hover and pitch the nose up to get the aircraft to move back. Once you get the aircraft moving back you slowly drop the nose to the target then fire. If done properly the recoil of the gun will help counteract the forward movement. For more skill you start to unmask while moving rearward and then just before you get above the trees you lower the nose and pull the trigger as the target is exposed.

[@CasmoTV]

Nice. Good info. Yeah we didn’t do too much of that in the early 2000s. At best we did some MPSM shots from a hover.

[@m2fw815]

@@CasmoTV yep - the change over was 2001/2 as Iraq kicked off and moved from HIC to LIC

[@CasmoTV]

I was going through Rucker 03-04 and to watch the IPs who were fresh from OIF to the ones who were still HIC minded… it was a stark contrast lol.

[@m2fw815]

@@CasmoTV I taught there 03-06 and yep. Of course trying to get people to understand that it was an AQC to get people to learn the 58D and not an RL1 course was another challenge as people rotated through. I think we did the best we could for being the neglected red headed stepchildren of Army aviation. Hell I remember when AH guys “dreamed about having our sight.” Funny thing was the TISU was as capable as the MTADS but required the LWLCD monitors and two card signal processor. Beautiful picture it was but guess what the Army didn’t want to buy? You and this module have pushed me into finally getting DCS

[@CasmoTV]

@@m2fw815 wondering if we crossed paths. I was in Nomad Flight. Started 58s in spring of 04 and finished around July or so.

[@drewlyman9995]

As an old 14B (Stinger/Linebacker PL) wanted to drop a note to thank you for your gun runs, specifically not flying over your target (as I’m writing this you then do it, but called yourself out). Drives me nuts when GS does it on his channel. Cheers.

[@R3volutionblu3s]

I remember buying a pack of Micro Machines as a kid in the mid 90s that included a little OH-58 model. Spent a moment trying to figure out why there was a 'News Helicopter' included with a bunch of military vehicles. Kiowa has been my favorite military helo ever since.

[@jsulli1698]

2:26 the left seater has seen some things. Some things he doesn’t want to talk about.

[@TFT-bp8zk]

They should just put Oakleys, Gatorz or Wiley X's on all the pilots so we're not creeped out by Leonard and his 1,000 yard stare.

[@TFT-bp8zk]

Pit Viper: The Optimal Blend of Style and Performance

[@MCP2002]

​​@@TFT-bp8zkThen it'd look weird if you are flying at night haha

[@Runandgun13]

@@TFT-bp8zk Oakleys for the real killers

[@macedk]

"I need a picture of a Humvee" (Snatches kid's LEGO's) ;)

[@Blackcloud_Garage]

The grease pencil mark on the windscreen is the “ABRM”. Aerial Ballistic Reference Mark. I always thought it was weird that they had holographic gun sights all the way back in WWII and now in the GWOT we were using a dang grease pencil mark on the windscreen. Classic example of life in 58D😅

[@therocinante3443]

"I just kind of used the force when I shot." That was one of the coolest things you've ever said on youtube, haha

[@SteelbeastsCavalry]

Thank you for your tireless dedication to the Kiowa Warrior. These tutorials are simply great.

[@CasmoTV]

You’re very kind.

[@PluckyUnderdog]

Very clear from these videos that you have quite an affinity and affection for the ol' bird, it's nice to see, and hear, when you talk about it on your streams. I am definitely sold on the module, it's getting bought. Clearly, Polychop has done a great job here.

[@mikebradley2968]

We had that happen, Bagram 2011, TF Phoenix. A then NCO soon to be SPC was getting the TI to sign off on the 50 after he PMCS'd the 50. Well at somepoint instead of the 50 dry firing like they wanted to, a hrydra rocket launched out the other side of the aircraft and smacked the T barrier in front of the aircraft, since we parked them in stalls. We called him Rocket Man or Elton John for the rest of the deployment.

[@nicolasandre9886]

The gun recock firing rockets is a pretty scary anecdote 😨

[@Blackcloud_Garage]

33lbs per 100 rounds. The 50 was always my favorite. Felt like an old WWII Thunderbolt or Mustang diving down on a target with that thing roaring away out there. Poor left seater got the fillings in his teeth rattled out 😅

[@disaster2master]

These videos have me ready for this little beauty to FINALLY release! Thanks for all the details from your own experience that you've been able to share.

[@hook86]

Looks awesome. As someone who is really picky on sound design, I'd definitely like to see an upgrade to the M3 and Hellfire firing sounds

[@CasmoTV]

Well if you have some background in sound design I’m sure you’d be handy to go over and help them recreate gun and missile sounds from recordings made over a decade ago so that people can be happy about their $69.99 video game.

[@Dasbutt-on2wx]

@@CasmoTV wouldn't even know what a hellfire was if it wasn't for dcs certainly wouldn't know what one sounded like coming of the rail in a kw with no doors 2 feet from ya

[@JonBloor7]

When you promised me a ticket to the guns show, this wasn't what I had in mind. 🥺👉👈

[@CasmoTV]

*Docking commences*

[@Cormac433]

Thanks for all the hardwork in putting so many videos out, loving them all, super hyped :D

[@saker6121]

I'm changing my resume to read 15J 'Farp Kid'. I never knew you guys called us that but I totally get where it came from. From my perspective our training on the M296 was lacking. I was always embarrassed when it failed(in any number of ways). As I became more experienced and after some time with the civilian gun rep I learned that things like a buffer assembly that was 15 years old and many 10000s of rounds through it would almost always fail and that's all we pretty much had was all worn out parts but only he knew they were really unserviceable. If the rep gave us a new one, it was like the holy grail and we valued it. Looking back, if i was in charge we would have ordered all new buffers, springs etc and rebuilt the guns every gunnery with new parts, not just the best looking parts that we had. These skills were probably attrited by the armament MOS being brought together with avionics/electronics, and loss of people with experience to UAV etc. Anyways the M3P was great for us as well, slashing the workload of gun maintenance, very reliable, and ease of repair/maintenance in the field(the 2 pull pins you speak of).

[@CasmoTV]

“Kid” was certainly not a slight. We thought of all our supporting dudes and dudettes as our kids. 💪🏼

[@Zatracenec]

That LEGO Avenger pic was awesome. Great video, again. Thank You! Using the force for firing the 50cal also got me.

[@thesquire5318]

Man...I remember my brigade commander running a two ship KW into the Tangi Valley in Afghanistan shortly after extortion was shot down. He went Winchester in about 15 minutes near EBK. Barely got out of there.

[@TFT-bp8zk]

As a 7314, I got to participate in 3rd LAAD Avenger bubbas running Stingers and that MP3 .50 cal against targets on San Clemente Island back before GWOT. It was a thing of beauty.

[@Johnwilkinsonofficial]

happy that gun sound has the classic 50cal crack to it, the hellfire launch we heard in a earlier version didnt fare as well 😅

[@Hammerpair]

I honestly think this is the most I've been excited for a module and a company coming up. Polychop seems like it really has it together really hope they do more modules

[@Acula33RC]

This is the mod I've been waiting for. And the little bird.

[@nimitzg]

Good tips and getting them from a pro + true stories makes it fun to learn. keep it up

[@RedTail1-1]

This was so full of useful information. Thank you

[@terryfowler504]

When I was applying for WOFT in 2011 this is the aircraft I wanted to fly after seeing what they do downrange but unfortunately they were phasing them out 😔

[@FuzzyKedama]

I want that Lego Avenger now. Also man that left seater's face... he's seen some shit.

[@theflightguy8726]

God, I’m excited as hell for this module; the .50 looks SO FUN

[@171-OC]

Amazingly detailed Module... 2 week's ™ ..

[@nick8874]

Former 14S here...love the M3P

[@halofreakma1]

The audio clip used for 50 needs work, hopefully it'll be fixed before release. Currently the audio track cuts short after firing the gun, it needs a follow through

[@CasmoTV]

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[@paulmartinek1716]

I think it would be really cool if they were able to implement a draw your own reticle like in the f4 with the grease pencil. I'm glad you can at least move it. Thanks for the video!

[@TFT-bp8zk]

8:15 "Do a bump" ❄🍚👃🤣

[@567davefair]

I'm kinda surprised we aren't seeing more preview videos on the upcoming CH-47F by Eagle Dynamics which is slated to be released by the end of this month. Bad sign of things to come?

[@DOGosaurus_rex]

Yes, dcs AI has god tier situational awareness and aim . Any any attack aircraft has learned that the hard way 😆

[@gradycdenton]

The worst is when you are flying between buildings in a city and still get sniped in the face.

[@Linus76]

@CasmoTV - you are the absolute bomb. Thanks for giving a nod to the pain of the Armament dogs in the pain in the ass that many of these things were to maintain. You ever fly A model Apaches and see us absolutely lose out shit when doing a CBHK on one? Or fight with the Upper/Dupper to load the gun? Or my absolute favorite, having to drop a fully loaded mag because of an internal jam - sweet jesus that thing is heavy!!

[@GrummanTestPilot]

Avenger gunner here! I love any time our system is mentioned haha

[@mccornac9548]

Any chance you’ll have time to do a guide on joint operations with Apaches? How does that work, do you lase and the apache fires in LOAL? Can we punch in coordinates in the Lima? Thanks for all the videos already your love of that bird shows every step of the way

[@TomP-148]

Dude you are crushing it.

[@thebigX14]

the goddamn lego set 😂😂

[@ISOTT78]

I love your clips ! Well done.

[@belgeode]

I imagine learning and mastering this weapon system is Proooobably the bread and butter of the bird?? Or would you say better to first master things like missiles or rockets?

[@CasmoTV]

Master the sight and yeah hellfire. Coming soon.

[@belgeode]

​@@CasmoTVsweet! Taking notes dutifully. 🤓

[@ErikGaultgrandeprairie]

Did he say he used the force to shoot? Well that sucks, my midichlorians are way too low

[@ForceMajeure23]

@CasmoTV, what is the synthwave song you use for your closing credits for all of your recent videos, as well as the electronic one at the end? absolute bops.

[@jubuttib]

1:38 Depends on the specific cartridge used, but sounds really close. With the weight of an average .50 BMG round you'd get something like 25 pounds or a bit over, then you add the links and 30 pounds might be pretty on the money.

[@CasmoTV]

Think it was 33

[@Murdock47]

Casmo this is so handy! I am using your methods for gun runs in the Mi8. DO you know if you're in trim because you feel it, or is there an actual indicator? In the Mi8 I can hop into the copilot seat and I have a Drift Angle display to show if i'm skewed left or right of centre. Is there any kind of indicator in the Kiowa? Like a little display needle leaning left or right?

[@jamesbevan9989]

I can't wait to see how it flies compared to the real thing. Might have to pull a cyclic and collective out of a spare and see if I can get my wife to allow me to make a cockpit in the living room.

[@CasmoTV]

It flies pretty damn good.

[@griffincheng]

I don’t expect you give some analysis on the handling of the plane. It sounds like not too difficult to fly. But where would the KW be in terms of handling? OA-6? Apache? Or the UH-60L mod?

[@SilverTurbine]

Amazing video, it would be awesome if ED considered making the UH-1 marine huey and the AH-1z viper mostly because im planning to join the marines after college

[@colinkelly990]

Awesome module! Awesome instructor! What map were you on? Normandy or Kola?

[@Brimmlinn]

I need the KW in my life right now. Cannot release soon enough! ;)

[@Johnwilkinsonofficial]

_two weeks_

[@catsooey]

Phil Swift should do a Flex Seal commercial with one of these.

[@Teab8g]

Gotta say the helo looks great from what you have shown so far. However would you recomend this for a solo guy that normally just flys the apache/ka50 for A2G stuff.

[@CasmoTV]

Yes I would

[@Pece73]

thanks for your videos, I would also like to play a Helo, I tried the Gazelle and the Apache a bit, the first one is very mobile and fun, the second is powerful but very heavy and much less mobile. the Kiowa seems like a good middle ground to me, from 1 to 10 how much do you recommend it?

[@CasmoTV]

10

[@Pece73]

@@CasmoTV I would say that with your answer I have no margin for error! Thank You Casmo! 👍

[@Lucifer-qt9gh]

Lol he has a bias chasmo was a kiowa driver i belive

[@scarface9478]

I’d would like to know why the M2 needed the cage and the 3P didn’t? Great video as always ✌️

[@CasmoTV]

I think it had to do with making the M2 work in that configuration (air) but that’s much before my time.

[@scarface9478]

@@CasmoTV Interesting, thanks for the reply!

[@n8kilgore]

The m296 has linage to the an/m2 adapted to an ejector bomb rack from hard mounted receiver points in fighter wings. The m3p was developed with an elastic cradle for the avenger, which was modified to be hard mounted to the UWP/CUWP.

[@scarface9478]

@@n8kilgore Cool thank you!

[@EagleMountainDK]

Thanks for another tutorial. I hope you dont mind me asking: You have around 2000 hours in the Kiowa, is these divided between hours in the left and right seat?

[@CasmoTV]

Yes

[@AhSoul]

Great video! If you move the pencil mark, does it remember the new postion next time you fly? I'm guessing not

[@CasmoTV]

I think the plan is persistent

[@AhSoul]

@@CasmoTV oh nice. Would be great if that's possible 👍

[@GoldenGnu]

Great tutorial!

[@95couver]

Really nice video. What map is that?

[@CasmoTV]

Channel

[@duartepires]

hows the sound of the gun? I don't really feels good, was it like that IRL?

[@CasmoTV]

I mean the last time I shot one was in 2011…

[@felixf4613]

Did I understand it correctly that you could use the mms together with an mfd for aiming?

[@CasmoTV]

Yes but I wouldn’t

[@LEAD-DISPENSER]

cant be long now

[@briantoplessbar4685]

What types of target did you Gus use MPSM for? Is it really powerful enough to be effective 1 at a time?

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

Definitely buying this one. Thanks Casmo.

[@homeworxchannel4120]

Are you gonna do a video on the M4? Without vr?

[@Elvinsilvester]

Did they removed the smoke grenades from the glareshield?

[@CasmoTV]

It’s optional

[@Hammerpair]

Little bird next?

[@CasmoTV]

Bigger

[@ankilo5519]

​@@CasmoTV Are they working on another aircraft already?

[@kosmos224]

The terrain at the outro is Afghanistan?

[@CasmoTV]

Syria

[@simulacrae]

Wow, the sounds are really WIP :)

[@CasmoTV]

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[@SamCooper373]

Is that really how the gun sounds? The sound just stops, really flat. I know it's WIP but it could just be like that?

[@CasmoTV]

Special ammo

[@atlesstrup6472]

is this the kola map?

[@CasmoTV]

Channel

[@cellokid5104]

Are helo pilots generally sitting on the right? And if so, why?

[@badgermilk760]

lol pilots look they on crack!!

[@CasmoTV]

That’s how they stayed awake on long missions.

[@badgermilk760]

@@CasmoTV lol

[@matty101a]

rate of fire seems low for an M3M

[@agidotexe7167]

question: are the external sounds of the engine and rotors accurate or do they still need some more echo added? Ik the Kiowa has a small engine but the nearly non existent travel of the sound is a bit odd, im assuming this is just a WIP

[@generalgrevous2458]

😉👍

[@guilhermebechtinger]

Kiowa guns < Apache guns ?

[@CasmoTV]

It’s in the way that you use it.

[@Pekins_]

Question from someone who knows nothing about guns, why is it that sometimes we use "Cal" and other times "mm" I find it confusing to determine the size of the rounds fired....

[@n8kilgore]

Imperial vs metric. This .50 cal = 12.7x99mm

[@Pekins_]

@@n8kilgore I know but most American weapons use millimeters and only a few use caliber…

[@n8kilgore]

@Pekins_ when the original design was made...over a hundred years ago...there wasn't a nato standard...because there wasn't a nato..

[@jubuttib]

@@Pekins_ They generally either use the military designation (the US military is surprisingly metric), like 5.56x45mm NATO and 7.62x51mm NATO, which in traditional (i.e. old) civilian terms would be referred to as .223 and .308, or the original naming schemes like 9x19mm Parabellum/Luger/NATO, which were never called by the inch size. For guns that are not in (current) military calibers it's AFAIK most common to use original marketing names, like .45 ACP etc. The one really common exception is the .50 BMG, because officially in military parlance that's called the 12.7x99mm NATO. But "fifty cal" rolls of the tongue a lot better than "twelve point seven mill", and .50 BMG was the civilian and military designation for like 20-30 years before they went metric, that it's understandable why it stuck. I don't find it particularly annoying after a while, if someone says "cal" and they're not an idiot (I've heard someone numpties say "9 cal"...) I hear that as "0.XYZ inches" and of course millimeters are millimeters regardless. And if someone says "five-five-six" I assume they're referring to a gun with a military origin for the design, rather than a purebred civilian hunting rifle, since most of those would specify ".223 Remington" as the caliber. The really annoying part of all this is how often people JUST say for example ".38 cal" or "9mm". There's .38 Short Colt, .38 Long Colt, .380 ACP, .38 ACP, .38 Super, .38 Smith & Wesson Special, .38 S&W, or 9x19mm Para, 9mm Glisenti, 9x18mm Ultra, 9x30mm Grom, 9mm Browning Long, 9x21mm, 9x21mm Gyurza, 9mm Action Express, 9x23mm Steyr, 9x23mm Largo, 9x25mm Mauser, 9x25mm Dillon, 9mm Winchester Magnum, 9x18 Makarov, etc. etc. And .38 inches and 9mm bullets are the same size to begin with! And the .357 Magnum is the same size bullet as the .38 Short/Long Colt! ARGH. =)

[@Pekins_]

@@jubuttib ah thank you so much that is very helpful although still confusing haha

[@III_Nick_III]

That gun sounds awful lol

[@CasmoTV]

Sorry that you feel that way.

[@MILSIM530]

Question is this DCS OH-58D .50 Cal Machine Gun more powerful then the AH-64 Apache and the tank killer

[@CasmoTV]

Not at all. Much smaller.

[@jubuttib]

.50 Cal = 0.5 inches = 12.7mm (the .50 BMG is also known as the 12.7x99mm NATO). The AH-64 has a 30x113mmB cannon, not a machine gun. And the Tank Killer, if by that you mean the A-10, has a 30x173mm cannon, which has over TWICE the muzzle energy. Compared to the .50 BMG the 30x173mm cartridge has over 10 times the muzzle energy.

[@MILSIM530]

@@jubuttib Thanks man well explained sir