Why Is There Manifestation?

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

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@Niko-xz5lk
@Niko-xz5lk 7 жыл бұрын
Why do people paint? Make music? Dance? Love? These questions are of the same nature to the question of manifestation, and the answer is also the same
@skpince
@skpince 5 ай бұрын
Good one dude ❤
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
rupert is the personification of peace understanding and wisdom, such a wonderful teacher of non- duality 💗🙏
@varunsangwan4964
@varunsangwan4964 4 жыл бұрын
A dream never ask the dreamer why the dreamer dreamt that particular dream.Similarly we(dream) as an finite objects in infinite consciousness(dreamer) can't legitimately ask why there are manifestations(dreams).Period. Beautifully explained by Rupert.
@lawerpradeep
@lawerpradeep 6 жыл бұрын
The answer is for play or leela. The name of the game is to find who you are. Infinite consciousness creates the energy field called Maya and manifests itself into two halves yin and yang along with all paraphernalia. They are separated longing to find each other inspite of all the hurdles again created for a bit of thrill. When United the big bang theory reversals. The entire game being a circle and not linear. Represented by the symbol of Nataraja.
@samjones3334
@samjones3334 5 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, the idea of creating apparent separation and then longing know itself again. I believe there is an alternative big bang theory called the big bounce where the process repeats itself
@ramananvenkataraman4594
@ramananvenkataraman4594 4 жыл бұрын
Cant but marvel the ancient mind that conceptualised 'LEELA'
@pcpoliceliveleak5735
@pcpoliceliveleak5735 4 жыл бұрын
To answer the question succinctly, "Why is there manifestation?", by definition the infinite includes all possibilities and manifestation is but one.
@omni6409
@omni6409 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert is so addictive...can't stop listening...
@davidhollyfield5148
@davidhollyfield5148 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent answer! A girlfriend said to me once "why is the most irrelevant question". I finally understand that she was my guru. No matter my worldly concerns, the truth of "I Am" shines ever present.
@mindfulkayaker7737
@mindfulkayaker7737 Жыл бұрын
Allan Watts used to say that the universe “peoples” for the same reason that an apple tree “apples”
@thomasbrouwer2771
@thomasbrouwer2771 Ай бұрын
Amazing talk. Swami Sarvapryiananda addresses the same question in another amazing talk titled 'the locus of ignorance'
@morepoor1608
@morepoor1608 7 жыл бұрын
its one of the best talks of his ! peace
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
we are beings of Light 💫💫💫 having forgotten how bright we shine💫
@karthik2414
@karthik2414 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. No word to say. The eye opener and a great talk i ever listened. Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@lostronin380
@lostronin380 5 жыл бұрын
We love you Rupert.
@Jes1FromFL
@Jes1FromFL 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people watch movies? For the unfolding, uncovering, discovery, drama, and joy of it. Experiencing finite is an option we choose, and we are masters of limitation.
@MarcosBetancort
@MarcosBetancort 3 жыл бұрын
The why question is a legitimate question, the fact is that God has a purpose independently of our minds, and it is not that we will be aware, the purpose is an ever increasing display of His glory in creation.
@mtnsurf1932
@mtnsurf1932 6 жыл бұрын
There's certain things the mind will never know that's beyond its comprehension. No matter how many books are read or whatever explanation can be given it's not that. the mind is wanting an answer that is not of the mind.
@Elias-sw1zh
@Elias-sw1zh 3 жыл бұрын
What a clarity!!! In fact, we will continue questioning though all questions are meaningless and there is no question.
@arunagreen8119
@arunagreen8119 4 ай бұрын
"The will simply loves and no effort is to be made in understanding" st Teresa of Avila
@stevekille6239
@stevekille6239 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Rupert! Absolutely wonderful.
@susanwale8887
@susanwale8887 8 жыл бұрын
amazing explanation, thank you so much Rupert.
@lindaj71
@lindaj71 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This is exciting and very clear knowledge.
@magnusjonsson7303
@magnusjonsson7303 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there an observation/manifestation/limitation? Because you are an observer/manifestor/limiter. Don´t limit and you will not be limited. 🙂🙏
@JechtNH
@JechtNH 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine you are an immortal pool of potential energy. You are at peace and blissful but it's endless existence. Suddenly you realize that you can create, split, differentiate between this and that. You simply start to play with it, because why not? You are blissful, you are boundless, you start to create simply because you can. Over time the creation becomes very complex. Imagine that you are forever stuck in a prison cell. It's an empty room with bed, shower and a toilet. You are provided food every day but other than that it's just you and an empty room. If you would somehow receive a guitar for example, you would start to play with it and over time create more and more complex music. Why? Simply because you had nothing better to do and you had tons of free time.
@scottsmith4622
@scottsmith4622 8 жыл бұрын
How about you create because it is your very nature?
@scottsmith4622
@scottsmith4622 8 жыл бұрын
God does what God is.
@gwenelbro1418
@gwenelbro1418 8 жыл бұрын
There is no creator, because God is that of which everything is made.
@adamkallin5160
@adamkallin5160 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't begin stabbing myself in the eye though.
@michaels5034
@michaels5034 7 жыл бұрын
wouldnt effect the grand scheme
@RamadasMannattil
@RamadasMannattil 6 жыл бұрын
"Overflowing of love" is termed "Aananda" in traditional Advaita Vedaanta
@sudipkumarmitra
@sudipkumarmitra 3 жыл бұрын
That 'ananda' cannot be perceived by the dualistic mind. Whatever we discuss about it are but poor estimates.
@Stratton218
@Stratton218 5 жыл бұрын
This question is simply beyond anything the mind can come close to comprehending. Even Rupert's answer of "the overflowing of love" is inadequate, clearly displaying the limitations of language
@OnlyNewAgeMusic
@OnlyNewAgeMusic 8 жыл бұрын
The very nature of what Rupert calls Infinity is that it is even beyond the concepts of infinite and finite. It allows both, but is not bound by any possibility or probability. Therefor it does not exclude anything finite or the idea of infinite being.
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
And in from " seeing " . . .
@SebastianTaeggi
@SebastianTaeggi 8 жыл бұрын
"I don't have a mind of my own!" - Jane
@mohdshahnawaz.australia
@mohdshahnawaz.australia 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
@skpince
@skpince 5 ай бұрын
In th coming deccades, Oxford will have to add a new course to its curriculum titled "The Logic of Non-Duality". This is not a joke. A new class of logic will arise from the talks of those who are directly in touch with the Self, this post being a perfect example of this kind of talk (Satsang). Logic from the perspective of the Absolute. As I always say, Rupert is a gem. Thanks for the post. Appreciated. I also want to remark that it may take Oxford deccades to catch up with this as I remember the video in wh,ch Rupert says "I wonder what they teach at Oxford". That was amazing to watch and listen.
@renko9067
@renko9067 Жыл бұрын
The modulations within the field of infinite possibilities (One Mind) is a process. Assigned qualities like awareness or love are irrelevant. But of course we make concessions when using words to try to communicate ultimate reality.
@curiosity_saved_the_cat
@curiosity_saved_the_cat 6 жыл бұрын
The question "Am I aware" leads some people merely to a rational answer to this question. The know they are aware, because it is a well known scientific fact. Actually being aware of being aware might be one step to far for those who are completely submerged into a conceptual point of view.
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
Awareness IS ... only the Real
@MrCFortune
@MrCFortune Жыл бұрын
Yoo Rupert you always on point. So I’ve learned how to think while I sleep. Like if I have something I want to think about, sometimes I can still follow that train of thought and consciously ponder it while asleep. I can’t really explain it well yet. But either way I was basically contemplating manifestation and how Awareness doesn’t actually create anything because everything is Awareness/consciousness and it’s eternal , so the seeming creation of anything would simply be the awareness of a perspective that already exists and the stuff that already exist as part of that perspective. But I kept waking up every time I tried to think about WHY awareness does this, I couldn’t really figure it out. So I pulled up this video and within the first 43 seconds you literally addressed this and said it can’t be answered , it’s the wrong question to ask.. thank you. Going back to finish the video now.
@gireeshneroth7127
@gireeshneroth7127 6 ай бұрын
It's never not Consciousness' knowing of itself despite the mind mood. What is another for the mind is in reality itself for Consciousness.
@Paliana7
@Paliana7 8 жыл бұрын
A Course in Miracles provides a metaphysics that is helpful. It is that we are caught in the "bad dream" of separation created by projection of fear, the "tiny mad idea" of polarity. Waking up to the Oneness that is all that is, the I Am that Rupert points to, and the bad dream fades away just as a nightmare disappears as one awakes, sits up and with great relief realizes "it was just a dream!"
@gwenelbro1418
@gwenelbro1418 8 жыл бұрын
There is no 'I', just Consciousness, everything else is just concepts.
@Jamesgarethmorgan
@Jamesgarethmorgan 8 жыл бұрын
Tea. There is consciousness and tea.
@nirvanic
@nirvanic 7 жыл бұрын
And biscuits! Lets not forget the biscuits!
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why is an unfounded answer is very simple ... the why is This .. the how a why appears is That
@eileenboles6459
@eileenboles6459 4 жыл бұрын
I have just started A course in miracles... resonating deeply love it!
@baptm727
@baptm727 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty straight forward, and I can see how individuals who are not ready to hear this will project the crazyness upon the speaker.
@trishaemry55
@trishaemry55 6 жыл бұрын
Sooo powerful THANKYOU Rupert, THANKYOU GOD ,♥️
@alinao625
@alinao625 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert overlooks the fact that not many people have experienced the Infinite Mind, that's why it's hard to get some of his explanations. It's like explaining to a Martian the scent of a rose or color blue.
@bishalshrestha1299
@bishalshrestha1299 Жыл бұрын
Why is this guy so awesome? (My finite mind asking lol)
@chehrazed8710
@chehrazed8710 6 ай бұрын
Explained verry well! Thank you❤
@TheJooberjones
@TheJooberjones 5 жыл бұрын
Best response ive ever heard to the most existential question.. why!? Because to answer immediately produces finitude. You’ve already lost. Infinity is boundless potentiality, an undifferentiated energy, love. It is one, never taking place or measurable. So then you try and pin one thing down and say why, well what are you even talking about or referring to?
@isabelmorais9430
@isabelmorais9430 4 жыл бұрын
Genially explained! Thank you 🙏
@ChannelWright
@ChannelWright 2 жыл бұрын
Love, that’s why.
@seriousthoughts-vn
@seriousthoughts-vn 8 жыл бұрын
The Question is Why. The answer is "Why not ?"
@Scrumpilump2000
@Scrumpilump2000 8 жыл бұрын
But why 'why not'? And an infinite regress begins.
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
+Scrumpilump2000 smoke and mirrors ... that.s why lolololol
@mrgratitutude
@mrgratitutude 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scrumpilump2000 but why not 'why' ?
@mrgratitutude
@mrgratitutude 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scrumpilump2000 why to understand your true Nature. U are divine
@jbarry1692
@jbarry1692 Жыл бұрын
He gives the best explanation s I've heard
@thegingerunicorn178
@thegingerunicorn178 4 жыл бұрын
Aaah haaaa!!!! That is a fabulous way of explaining Mary knowing she’s Mary not Jane.
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 6 жыл бұрын
Agree the two modes (finite,infinite) full on are mutually exclusive. However it is possible to pervade the finite measure with infinite substrata making an immeasurable measure. Attention is so pliable, one can even have still wide attention whilst noticing arisings of shift in eye focus.
@arunagreen8119
@arunagreen8119 Ай бұрын
" somewhere inbetween " by Kate Bush. A brilliant song on the Ariel album.
@matthewking7874
@matthewking7874 6 жыл бұрын
awesome teachings great wisdom
@timeless4369
@timeless4369 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s like asking why do we dream when we sleep? To experience. But we don’t choose to dream/experience, it just happens spontaneously. As above so below.
@Janardhanpersonal
@Janardhanpersonal 3 ай бұрын
Someone asked why it has to fell a sleep ? Answer is to create the experience. If it doesn't fell a sleep then it cannot create experience. Finite mind can be created only when it fell a sleep and dream of finite Character.
@yytiak
@yytiak 8 жыл бұрын
So good..
@freddystaelens
@freddystaelens 6 жыл бұрын
Between two toughts there is still perception of something.
@DaleEarnhardt_
@DaleEarnhardt_ 5 жыл бұрын
Freddy Staelens who is perceiving that still perception?
@peterscherba4138
@peterscherba4138 4 жыл бұрын
At 3:14 is a good question. Why. After all, we did not invent consciousness or existence, and even though IT has always existed --- and we are in essence THAT --- laws, nature, structure as existing isn't from my doing...
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051 8 жыл бұрын
Another good explanation. The answer the question "Why" is very well put to rest.
@scottsmith4622
@scottsmith4622 8 жыл бұрын
Negating the question "why" is a cop out. It is in our nature (and God's nature) to ask this question. If a teacher tells you to not question "why", RUN (don't walk)away.
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051 8 жыл бұрын
The question "why" happens within space-time. Any attempt to answer this question will be a fall through a bottomless pit. Transcending space-time by just being aware is the way to eliminate the why. eg: A person with high fever gets delirious and asks why is the table flying, all we need to do is to give him a paracetamol. Questions too will subside along with the fever.
@scottsmith4622
@scottsmith4622 8 жыл бұрын
One can live within space-time and be fully Aware. Being and Doing are not exclusive states.
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051
@sreeprakashneelakantan5051 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, but if awareness fades space-time will dominate, and questions surface
@scottsmith4622
@scottsmith4622 8 жыл бұрын
Awareness as Being is totally receptive, so questions would not arise. I agree. But Awareness as Doing is active and asks questions aplenty. Yes, Awareness without objects is a reality, but not the only one. I think that our communication problem stems from our different foundational beliefs. To me, our space-time lives are as real as our Eternal existence. Both relies upon and informs the other. It is a necessary symbiotic relationship. Different perceptions/poles of the same Reality. We are One and we are Many at once. Our lives are not an accident or mistake, although we can grow to be more - wiser and more enlightened. I do not come to this conclusion out of naivety or ignorance. I once espoused absolute non-dualism, but my direct experiences have led me to another view of Reality. Oh well, I guess we are both going to find out one way or another.... Peace!
@jamesvanderhoorn1117
@jamesvanderhoorn1117 4 жыл бұрын
God cannot, like men, wake up to God. So the only way to enjoy this bliss is waking up to Himself again and again in us.
@artpinguin
@artpinguin Жыл бұрын
I know the humen vessel was made but where do souls come from how did we come to exist?
@TheseEyesGod
@TheseEyesGod 8 жыл бұрын
This is so excellent. I used to object to this thing about infinity not being able to contain anything finite. Yet in listening to this, it reminds me of an experience I had of being taken for a journey (by an orb, believe it or not) and shown, via flying above scenes in my own life, how completely pure Truth, real truth is. Even 1% impurity, and it's no longer Truth. Even an impure motive for telling 100% accurate facts and it's not Truth. It's rather akin to the difference between love, as we know it in 3D, and divine Love - they are nothing alike. Love his explanation of the uselessness of the why questions, too. I knew they were worthless - relative to awakening - but this was elegantly explained. Great vid! ~♥~
@sfevie
@sfevie 8 жыл бұрын
TheseEyesGod
@TheseEyesGod
@TheseEyesGod 8 жыл бұрын
sfvie, would you be kind enuf to share with me what's being said when someone comments with just your "name"? Have had several of these, recently - don't know what's being said. Thanks ~♥~
@johnwise9874
@johnwise9874 7 жыл бұрын
TheseEyesGod was
@theman4568
@theman4568 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheseEyesGod hi, it is when someone wanted to put a comment, but wrote nothing and sent it void. What stays is your "name". Peace
@StephenGrew
@StephenGrew 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@rohittripathi1322
@rohittripathi1322 6 жыл бұрын
the truth is niether ONE nor TWO . It is AS IT IS.
@ArunSingh-ms5wr
@ArunSingh-ms5wr 8 жыл бұрын
Fractals!!
@zacharyschabel7822
@zacharyschabel7822 8 жыл бұрын
the answer to everything!
@solthun85
@solthun85 2 жыл бұрын
In my own weird and maybe unique experience the answer I got for this was 'playfulness'. Maybe I got the only or closest answer my mind could understand.
@skedi33
@skedi33 8 жыл бұрын
if you really want this question answered, read "conversations with god" , it´s explained there in great detail
@swetha2821
@swetha2821 7 жыл бұрын
EineFaserImGewebeDesLebens Yes indeed, I have read it dozens of times, and yet at some other point, from another perspective, the same question comes up.
@shoonyah
@shoonyah 3 жыл бұрын
Aahha...its like a toad sitting inside a well, looking up and asking why is the sky circular in shape and that big.
@gramkoonin9653
@gramkoonin9653 3 жыл бұрын
Gods infinite being knows all. Infinite or finite
@jeanbaptisteponsot
@jeanbaptisteponsot 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@StephenGrew
@StephenGrew 3 жыл бұрын
Super
@isaac7743
@isaac7743 6 жыл бұрын
9:50 ->11:44 If the mind ceases to exist after the asking ourselves the question "am I aware" how does it have the new thought "yes, I am" when it comes backs into existence? The Question, "Am I aware" is asked in duality, we "go" to nonduality for the answer or seeming experience, then duality returns with an answer. It "seems" like there is a form of communication or passing of information/experience from nonduality to duality that "I am aware". Of course that cannot be as there is just consciousness/awareness only the whole time. Communication require 2 seperate things to communicate with each other, duality.
@Magnoliasdiary
@Magnoliasdiary 5 жыл бұрын
Because thoughts, emotions, sensations, experiences will always appear. There is no doer, no thinker, thoughts just pop and then disappear, but we identify ourselves with thought and that's suffering.
@francescomarchi8680
@francescomarchi8680 Жыл бұрын
The infinite One is not in any way the creator of a real multiplicity. It's just the dreamer of the countless many which never loses its unicity.
@Bobbin925
@Bobbin925 3 жыл бұрын
How can anyone know that consciousness is infinite. I think that’s more of a belief.
@AurelienCarnoy
@AurelienCarnoy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. That moment when Rupper see that there is totally enough room for an object to exist in infinity. Zenon paradox. The infinite football team on an infinite line of chair. The infinite universe with (what looks like) objects in it.
@TheYellowshuttle
@TheYellowshuttle 9 ай бұрын
The why question can & has been answered in the past. And it's very simple. Its in the definition of the substrate. If the substrate was inert or dead stuff, it wouldn't bring forth anything and there wouldn't be any manifestation. But because the substrate is conscious, it "HAS TO" stir at some point. Because if it didn't, that would be dead stuff - won't it? And why would we call a dead or inert substrate conscious? And once it stirs, it sets in motion everything else.
@manumullen88
@manumullen88 8 жыл бұрын
Human = an infinite part (electromagnetical connection) in a finite part (body), and knows by a finite mind (to be aware of this second order or know of knowing)
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
That which knows of that is not " human " .... Direct
@nocosa
@nocosa 8 жыл бұрын
I have seen a documentary about the universe called nothing. they explain that particles emerge from nothing all the time. isn't beautiful?
@nickied7816
@nickied7816 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that by creating the finite, a part of I AM is playing "hide and seek" with itself
@cooking_innovations
@cooking_innovations 2 жыл бұрын
How can a finite be in the middle of the infinite??? Where would be the middle of the infinite since the infinite has no boundaries?
@shootayibyukhrabaytak674
@shootayibyukhrabaytak674 4 жыл бұрын
So reproducing and/or creating life is an act of love????? I love this statement however there is so much horror in the world that it is difficult to swallow this statement.............what about the child born into a place where there is no food and only starvation???? Is it "out of love" to create a life in these circumstances???? So much suffering - a baby zebra just born and snatched up by a lion - yes I know - food...........but brutal and heart breaking non-the-less.........it sometimes seems to me that there is too much suffering, pain, sadness in the world to speak of "love" being behind all manifestation..............
@weizhang2697
@weizhang2697 9 ай бұрын
We are the infinite consciousness, and our finite mind keeps us from realizing that we are the infinite consciousness, right? So what or who creates our finite mind? If the infinite consciousness also creates our finite mind, then why does the consciousness create us to prevent us from knowing that we are the consciousness?
@Libra-v1r
@Libra-v1r 4 ай бұрын
Jesus said "my Father is in me and I in the Father" It's people's fault that they didn't understand.
@moonglow6639
@moonglow6639 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there manifestation ? Manifestation is (apparent) suffering, so why is there suffering ? Because we fell asleep. I don't know why we fell asleep though but I assume it wasn't a conscious effort. All of "manifestation" is only a dream in consciousness so "manifestation" isn't really real. And therefore nothing can really be said about it in my opinion. Which "truth" can be said about a dream from within the dream ?
@eileenboles6459
@eileenboles6459 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert what is your opinion on Ram Dass ??
@iamhudsdent2759
@iamhudsdent2759 Жыл бұрын
Yogananda said, do not ask why there is a manifestation, ask how? He may have been getting at the same thing Rupert is getting at here. All God had to do was set manifestation in motion through one cosmic primordial action. The Word, as it were. Just one instance of distinction, of a differentiation, however closely joined to its source. The rest was a matter of free will.
@owl6218
@owl6218 4 жыл бұрын
I am dimming the beacon just now by stuffing myself with post festival deep ried sweets
@ceciliagrantham4689
@ceciliagrantham4689 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert wears a wristwatch to connect to the consciousness who acknowledge time exists
@wattaura7621
@wattaura7621 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@AurelienCarnoy
@AurelienCarnoy 3 жыл бұрын
As you identify with infinite consciousness you experience it's faith. As you identify with your body you experience its outcome. As you identify with your mind, you experience its outcome. Etc As you identify with a car you experience its outcome Your car gets bumped becomes i got bumped. But what happens when no identification is made? It would seem that no reflexion is happening. No mirror. No image. No time. No space. No awareness of anything. So instantaneously, the next moment happens. And after 10 days of meditation the meditator is unaware that any time has passed.
@CristyanBernardes
@CristyanBernardes 2 жыл бұрын
Its only faith when you don't have experience
@richardjacoby8425
@richardjacoby8425 4 жыл бұрын
You have to leave the body to see your real self.When you re enter the body it's like being dipped in honey and it starts to cover the real self,but every time you retain a little more of the self
@of8ightandse7en16
@of8ightandse7en16 3 жыл бұрын
love rupert's talk but he shouldnt have attempt these infinite topics. it's like the finite mind are putting limitations and procedures on the Infinite... that the infinite can't this, and has to do that, and so and so..
@azimshabestary6411
@azimshabestary6411 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert please correct me. I think what we feel as awareness is life which is awareness with centre or understanding that is self aware the unmanifest awareness doesn’t have self so can not be self aware,we don’t know what is the unmanifest at all.
@mo2119
@mo2119 4 жыл бұрын
That’s sounds plausible to me. Like the unmanifest is equivalent to the subconscious. It comes into being from a spontaneous urge or how he beautifully put it as for no reason at all, like when a woman gets the urge to have a baby. An overflowing of “love”. Of creative potentiality.
@Madoc_EU
@Madoc_EU 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I like his teachings, that example with a finite object making infinite space finite is just bollocks.
@Daniel-hz7tk
@Daniel-hz7tk 4 жыл бұрын
You are so totally correct! Infinity consists of a lot of finite objects. All of them in fact.
@mo2119
@mo2119 4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-hz7tk my question is could it be infinite without being finite, or without finite objects in it?
@Daniel-hz7tk
@Daniel-hz7tk 4 жыл бұрын
@@mo2119 My feeling or sense of what infinity is, is all inclusive. So everything we ever perceive as finite is just a fragment of the infinite. So each of our seemingly separate finite lives are actually parts of one infinite whole. It's a slippery concept. I do not see how anything could exist outside of the infinite. Unless I am defining infinite wrong, nothing could. So infinite HAS to contain EVERYTHING because if it doesn't contain even one thing, it is not infinite, it is suddenly limited and finite. So then it is 2 finite things. But it is also about perspective, because if those 2 finite things exist inside one other "thing" that thing is infinite. It is a never-ending thought puzzle
@mo2119
@mo2119 4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-hz7tk thx for that, very interesting. Most philosophers talk about a singular source of infinity, but I’m wondering if it even had a beginning where it was actually whole without objects or any finiteness at all. Just itself in some mystical non-dual experience. I guess I gotta wait and see 🤷‍♂️
@AG-yx4ip
@AG-yx4ip 3 жыл бұрын
From this view we can infer a solution for the omnipotence paradox. God even has the power to become non-omnipotent ( of course this would be an illusion )
@azimshabestary6411
@azimshabestary6411 4 жыл бұрын
We can not say a word about the unmanifest everything we say is the manifest thought.We can not say even it’s infinite because as we see finite exist also in the manifest which is in the unmanifest.
@lovegreetsus3513
@lovegreetsus3513 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretical questions are cunning diversions. An effectual response to such a question reveals what is being concealed by the mind's theoretical question, and places the REAL LIFE question directly into the lap of the questioner. Therefore, regarding the theoretical question presented by this gentleman: "Why would Infinite Consciousness choose to overlook its infinity to manifest as an illusion?... "Why does it want to do such a thing?" I would offer this response: "Well, you are Infinite Consciousness. Why are YOU choosing to overlook your infinity and manifest as a finite self within a finite world?" THAT response requires the questioner to look squarely at what is actually happening here and now, in his very own being, because - in fact - that's WHERE Infinite Consciousness IS being and manifesting The mind will give NO answer to that question, and it will cease to ask any other. It falls completely silent when its coverup operations are revealed. And in those moments, little by little, we discover that WE, Infinite Consciousness, have been CHOOSING to be asleep to our infinite nature, CHOOSING to let the mind perform its undercover operations, CHOOSING to pretend we are autonomous, finite persons - and, at some point, (thank God!) CHOOSING not to do that any more.
@mellowbirds4777
@mellowbirds4777 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert looks a bit like the Ben Harper character on the sitcom My Family.
@MarcosBetancort
@MarcosBetancort 5 жыл бұрын
There is a why. The overflowing of love within non duality is absurd, unless you embrace oneness in duality forever. Because in oneness there is supposed to be already that love or bliss. But if you have a duality within unity then overflowing of love seems appropriate.
@darren8121
@darren8121 6 жыл бұрын
Rupert. How do you know what infinity wants?
@sg9959
@sg9959 5 жыл бұрын
Cause you just know :)
@peterscherba4138
@peterscherba4138 5 жыл бұрын
Infinity (in its potential) expands, extends and creates or allows creations. If infinity or eternity couldn't expand, extend IT couldn't be infinite. It is impossible for Absolute 'unboundedness' to be limited. All possibles/probables allow limit.
@TheJooberjones
@TheJooberjones 5 жыл бұрын
Bc he (and “you”) are infinity, what we want by definition is what infinity wants.
@chrissearcher3563
@chrissearcher3563 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJooberjones bingo!
@gwenelbro1418
@gwenelbro1418 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't it the case that infinity, by definition, contains all things finite?
@Daniel-hz7tk
@Daniel-hz7tk 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@anthonykology1728
@anthonykology1728 Жыл бұрын
why not...?...consciousness seems to expand itself..out of love ...love of experience of finite awareness ?
@identitygone
@identitygone 6 жыл бұрын
Why would 'GOD' or Awareness or Consciousness WANT anything?! It has no desires or needs or preferences. It just IS.
@Elliottcharlesking
@Elliottcharlesking 6 жыл бұрын
Yep ... God desires/needs/wants " ............. "
@mo2119
@mo2119 4 жыл бұрын
Why not? Maybe it got tired of being in one state for eternity. What ever state infinite consciousness is...
@codefreelance2182
@codefreelance2182 4 жыл бұрын
I can understand the non duality of infinite consciousness, but I cant get past the idea that Rupert is incorrect in the assessment that life is for living in love and also that the manifestation of the finite is for the reason of love. This disregards the thought process of what existence would be like for the eternal energy at the "beginning". Rather to say it was lonely for the eternal infinite energy all by itself at the beginning. So by this reasoning it "ceased to be infinite" to create the finite so it would have something to "talk" to. Rather than to do it just for "love"
@mo2119
@mo2119 4 жыл бұрын
The word love itself implies mystery. There is no knowing what love actually is. There is no definite reason as to why life even is. Love is the answer, because in love everything satisfies us, gives us joy. That is what makes the most sense, although there is no ‘making sense’ of things or fully understanding infinity.
@ArunSingh-ms5wr
@ArunSingh-ms5wr 8 жыл бұрын
or why different patterns emerge with different frequencies?(cymatics);-)
@evaw551
@evaw551 8 жыл бұрын
What is the comparison with this Janes mind and Marys mind?. What he is talking about?. Just adding more confusion to simplicity.?
@67universal
@67universal 8 жыл бұрын
Rupert uses Jane and Mary metaphor a lot. Maybe these youtube videos with this metaphor are of the same talk. Mary is a dreamer and Jane is a character in Mary's dream. A person is like Jane and cannot truly answer "Why" question with the finite mind. Mary has to wake up. That's my understanding.
@TheKstuart
@TheKstuart 7 жыл бұрын
The videos are from workshops and seminars, and I get the impression that Rupert explains the Jane and Mary metaphor early in those workshops. The KZbin videos are all from later in the day - usually in question-and-answer sessions.
@1wordtroll
@1wordtroll 4 жыл бұрын
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