Russia’s ‘shadow fleet’ tanker seized over Baltic cable sabotage

[@wam7484]

Administer severe consequences or expect more of the same.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Perhaps in this case we should say _sever_ consequences.😄

[@tambokavz]

Unless you press Russia expect the same in a few days. That country is running out of options and it's very desperate.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Sun Tzu: In my opinion Russia appears strong. Therefore it is weak. Now if you'll excuse me I must return to my tomb...

[@dustintacohands1107]

China and Russia they’re brutal and China is only wearing a mask its government is worse than Russias.

[@one_wild_gopher3078]

Do you really expect Joe Biden and his administration to get off of their thumbs?

[@dustintacohands1107]

@ i just wonder where he’s even at ??! Is he the president still?!?!

[@dixonpinfold2582]

@@dustintacohands1107 No, it's probably been Jill Biden for a while now.

[@patriciarussell1177]

We all need to be ready for them everywhere in the world

[@danthesquirrel]

Denmark and Sweden control the very narrow entrances into the Baltic Sea. Keeping ships out that come from Russia would be legal and easy. Charging crews with terrorism and holding them for years would make taking money to do this less appealing. Selling the ships and cargo that did this for compensation would make shipping companies and Russia reluctant to keep doing it. Without doing these things the countries along the Baltic will become like Vietnam and the Philippines where the local bully claims your waters or like Taiwan where they claim your land water and people, and "hand it all over, or else".

[@dustintacohands1107]

Are you sure it would be “easy” ???

[@danthesquirrel]

@@dustintacohands1107 Look at a map of the entrance to the Atlantic. Easy, yes. Could it trigger war, yes. But Russia is a bully. Letting them get away with it is the highest risk path to war.

[@wipatriot510]

Scuttle it...

[@nicocrestmere9688]

Rename it. Ukraines Superior Ship Redbutt. Or USSR for short just ti piss him off.

[@ElbowShouldersen]

This is the second major incident... Why aren't these ships out of Russia being escorted as they steam across all that vulnerable European undersea infrastructure?

[@jorgecorea405]

true how many succeeding incident before tight security be imposed, they clearly outnumbered russia in the area anyway

[@JaneJetsin]

You don’t understand the volume of shipping transiting the passage. Intercepting out side of entrance and denying passage is easier. You also don’t understand the “flagging” of ships. This ship was not registered or flagged in Russia. It takes time to determine the actual origin or ownership of a vessel. It would be more effective but not easy to set up a water road block to identify ships way before they enter the passage. Announce that all ships must declare themselves before entering or be denied passage. Remember that economies depend on this shipping.

[@bellofthedesert1595]

Escorted by whom? At what cost? Who will pay that cost? What if Russia refuses escort? Will tensions rise even further? Lots of questions - too many to list.

[@JaneJetsin]

@ Cargo ships can’t refuse escort. It’s like a semi hauling a loaded trailer refusing a car to follow it. Obviously countries with the escorting vessels. Smaller fast inter coast vessel are inexpensive to operate. Who cares if it raises tensions? REALLY! That’s like saying don’t have a neighborhood watch because it might upset the burglars!

[@AnniKlami]

There are at The moment 300 russian tankers in The Area. Where would you get The fleet to follow these tankers

[@jxpat]

Finnish Marines were insanely bad-ass boarding this ship.

[@274727]

Coast guard and police

[@mikkolappalainen9225]

Why?

[@Geojr815]

Most countries contribute to the advancement of humanity. Russia has always done the opposite

[@Gigantus636]

Joe biden is not most.

[@theorigonalb.a]

AHHH, putin promoting Nato like no other can do. putin has already helped Nato grow by 13 new members in only 25 years, compared to 7 members that Nato had in the previous 47 years. Eh may say that he doesn't like Nato, but his actions say a very different story

[@johnfrancisco1851]

Façam eles a (rus sia) pagarem os prejuízos

[@dreadfuldonkey]

So what would stop the Chinese in a submarine from doing this? How would it ever be detected anybody ever think about that?

[@AnniKlami]

There are hardly any submarines in The Baltic sea. Some Russian ones maybe. The cables are cut by tankers dragging their anchors on The bottom of The sea. Many of these tankers May Be Chinese but they sail under different flags and are chartered by The russians to transport oil from St Petersburg area

[@primafacie9721]

A Chinese "Military" submarine intentionally cutting a cable of a NATO nation would likely be considered an act of war or incredibly close to one.

[@ospehu1]

Baltic sea is guite shallow plus the seabed is formed mainly from granite or gneis so there for the sub's actually are one of the worst ships to sail in there since every sound they make bounches back from the seabed. Plus average depth is around 55m so it is easy to sea mine and good place to use depth charges as well.

[@ghostmantagshome-er6pb]

When the cable is down they are probably hacking into it.

[@hermesmcclintok]

Oh, that'll teach em. Big moves, guys.

[@Viper_75th_RR]

Russia is getting desperate.

[@KarenCole-y6w]

Always be vigilant

[@ronmcmartin4513]

One or both ships were equipped with lots of hi-tech spy gear.

[@bellofthedesert1595]

Men playing stupid games calling it war ect...cold war, hot war - it's all so friggin lame when you think about it. Go live your lives, we'll live ours - leave each other alone already.

[@AnniKlami]

Tell that to The russians and see if they believe. Ordinary Russians might believe but are afraid to say anything. Putin wants to invade Ukraine just like Trump wants to invade Greenland, Canada and Panama. The world is not in good hands, IT IS in The hands of maniacs.

[@VladimirStepanov-e6h]

Пацаны на "Орёл С" просто напросто не закрепили якоря по походному. Таки один и самоотдался и никто не заметил. Всё просто на самом деле. Тоже было с китайским контейнеровозом повредившем Балтик коннектор.

[@MietoK]

”Sure”

[@GarC170]

Russia is literally trolling at this point. The whole plausible deniability thing over the data cables, Ok. A month later you do the exact same thing? And of course they shot down a commercial jet carrying both Russian and ex-Soviet citizens. And had that plane been allowed to land at Grozny there’s a possibility that plane would have had enough hydrolic pressure to make a safe landing. Instead the Russians forced that pilot to cross the entire width of the Caspian Sea and even then the fact those pilots saved as many lives as they did they’re heroes. I think just today the Ukrainians captured a North Korean mercenary willing to talk. That’s gonna be interesting lol. I know Kim Jong Un was happy to send his troops over there in exchange for caviar and cognac. But the Chinese are only offering material support and I guess a lot of oligarchs are less than happy because in return the Chinese got a lot of economic boons that’re bleeding them dry. Probably why Putin took pity on Assad and evacuated him.

[@herptek]

I call it implausible deniability at this point. No one really believes it, but the trolls are out in force online playing this weird gaslighting tactic, where nothing is ever supposed to be like it seems.

[@joshuaguy4682]

Its name even sounds like a american navy ship would be named as.

[@VovelPunch]

close nato

[@jonathanbelanger6574]

Close Russia

[@turboleggy]

Close in on Russia with NATO...what can they even do about it

[@theorigonalb.a]

so you don't like Nato? putin must work for Nato. in the 47 years of Nato before putin, Nato had only 7 members. In the 25 years since putin took office, 13 new nations have joined Nato. The stats show that putin is the best promoter of Nato

[@RuslanMargiev]

🇷🇺 🪆 ❤

[@simwilliams5358]

Because of weak Biden

[@AnniKlami]

There will Be More problems because of idiot Trump who has taken lessons from mad Vlad. Vlad wants to invade countries, now Trump wants to invade Greenland, Canada and Panama. Sweden and Finland joined NATO because of Ukraine war. Biden helped both countries. Now Denmark is building The defence in Greenland because of Trumps threaths. Real diplomacy diaper Don!

[@andre8860]

Russia 🇷🇺 is unstoppable and victorious ❤

[@sampohonkala4195]

Which can be understood looking at the ship that was stopped and which they lost?

[@Gigantus636]

​@@sampohonkala4195 lol that's, even not a Russia ship but serves to Russia.

[@shawnholden941]

Compensate the ship and use the money to fix the cable.

[@AnniKlami]

It Will Be a question of international and maritime laws. The cables cost More than 10 milloin euros.