ECP - Electrochemical Plant in Zelenogorsk, Russia. They bought old AFGA tape manufacturing equipment from BASF in 1994. Then ECP started to produce their own audio and VHS tapes, also in 1997-2000 ECP made some of their own improvement on this tape, there was Extra Ferro (cheapest version, clear shell), Ultra Ferro (improved tape) and Green Mount (improved version of UF, green shell). So ECP tapes are really only "technology" by BASF, but made 100% in Russia. Early (1994-1995) versions of ECP tapes were not that good, tape and shells were much cheaper. Since 1997 it became a very good tape, in Russia price on ECP tapes were lower than any "Type-0". ECP stopped producing tapes in 2006-2007. Version in your video was produced in ~1998-2000, and there's no export version of any ECP.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Great insight, thanks!
@watershed445 жыл бұрын
@CHEVYCAPRICE90 WOW AMAZING THAT THEY CONTINUED TO PRODUCE DECENT QUALITY TAPE UNTIL 2007! SURPRISING THAT THEY DIDN'T EXPORT SINCE AROUND THIS TIME THE MAJOR MFRS IN THE WEST/JAPAN/KOREA WERE DONE WITH MFR TAPE.
@shadowflash7055 жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 I don't think that that would be profitable in 2007. It was before cassettes became what they are now. People were all into digital. And i remember buying a box of Denon MG-X for the price of 50 CD-R cake box back then. It's always like that. In early 90s i bought two Minimoogs for $100, now one of them worth thousands. In 80s people were throwing away old tube radios left and right. Now people are buying them, and if those are in good condition it can be very expensive, especially for pre-60s stuff.
@shadowflash7055 жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 2007 was too early for cassettes to be profitable. People were all into digital stuff. Same happened to videogames. In PS2 era people were selling 8-16bit games dirty cheap. Now rare ones cost thousands on eBay, uncommon - hundreds. Also vinyl. When CDs became mainstream i was picking up literally packs of high quality vinyl records people were throwing away. Now some of them are over $300.
@azar789able5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is AGFA - BASF If you compare the latest AGFA cassette with ECP, you will see that they are the same. AGFA sold its production of BASF cassettes and they sold the Russian ECP
@rembollo19925 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony . Greetings from Poland . Stilon XCR cassette is a Polish product. They were produced by the "Stilon Gorzów" company. Stilon XCR was produced before the collapse of the factory in Gorzów Wielkopolski. This cassette was produced in the early 90's, right after the fall of the USSR and communism in Poland. And all in all, such quick information about Stilon. Thanks for the great episode as usual. Regards Kamil :)
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight.
@PixelDash4 жыл бұрын
I thing that this Chrome Stilon can be produced by Basw because of the design of this cassette.
@tomasgaud88715 жыл бұрын
2:59 it is Lithuanian made cassette, Acme factory in second biggest city, Kaunas. "Garso kasetė" means "sound cassette", used lots of these Acmes back in '90tees. Cheers from Lithuania ;)
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
Sveikučiai :P Ogi Acme niekada neturėjo savo gamyklų, buvo labiau prekybinis pavadinimas (kad ir dabar vardas priklauso ACC Distribution, raktažodis čia "distribution", patys nieko negamina)... ar kažką painioju? xD ...nebent vyniojo importuotą juostą į importuotus korpusiukus (duplication) :D gal Garsų pasaulis padėjo
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
@murafskis nesu tikras dėl gamybinio proceso bet kiek žiūrinėjau paskutiniąsias akmes, matrica visada buvo Ritek (Taivanas). BODas galėjo pridėti ranką kuriant jau įrašytus diskus 🤔 (būtent presuotus, ne balvonkes)... vėlgi nemuškit skaudžiai, jei iš technologinės pusės kalbu mėšlą 😅 Ai, ir sorry už vėlyvą atsakymą xD sesija...
@CEzikMaj5 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that Stilon made up in decent category. We didn't use IV and II was occasional, because in 70/80's we had a rough time in Poland. They did not looked promising, but sound was an different manner. I still have IEC I tape, but now it's type 0 because of the bad storage probably. Dzień dobry.
@megawhitemaster77405 жыл бұрын
to nie stilon Gorzow,racja chrom byl rzadko spotykany.
@watershed445 жыл бұрын
@Cassette Comeback Tony this is some fascinating history too. Interesting backgrounds on the Eastern European tapes. Thanks again!
@macelius Жыл бұрын
I was a kid in Poland in the 80s, and one of my best friends' dad had a tape duplicating business. Not sure how legit it was, but I remember at least half a dozen tape-to tape dubbing machines copying MIchael Jackson and such on to similar shelled tapes, and some cheaply printed or photocopied labels.
@markussukram92905 жыл бұрын
Love the DISCO-HOUSE music.
@ShawnTewes5 жыл бұрын
The embossed design on the Stilon shells are very much like 1988 BASF shells, only clear. They both have the horizontal ridges near the hubs and on the bottom, the wide triangle at the bottom, large numerals on the bottom corners, screws on side 2, and rough texture along the edges. Perhaps they used the same mold. They also use similar hub retainers and bright red leader as some early 80s BASF type 1s.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Could be...
@FixingOldStuff5 жыл бұрын
@@CassetteComeback Definitely BASF shells, or at least BASF molds. That design (big side numbers on the bottom edges, brushed-metal look etc.) is quite familiar, I bought a lot of BASF tapes in the 80s.
@arv85765 жыл бұрын
@@CassetteComeback Old ones Stilon Gorzów tapes was made under licence of AGFA. Both Ferric and Chrome. Those ones you show to us looks and sound like a BASF tapes packed into the horrible quality and ugly shells. Tapes looks like not 'Under licence of BASF' but strictly old stacks. I have few old 80's Stilons in my collection (ferric ones) such as few cassettes from another Polish factory Wiskord Szczecin (they uses probably East German tapes made by OrWo - very tacky). Tapes production those days was a civilian 'cover' for military production. Stilon did propellant charge (don't know which, probably cordite), Wiskord did guncotton. Logo of the new tapes from Stilon is far different than old one and is similar (for me) to Sennheiser logo. Factory in Gorzów Wielkopolski still exist and uses old logo.
@PixelDash4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Wiskord cassettes (not tapes) was worse than Stilon. I have 30 or more cassettes from this factory, including 10 empty ones without any logo or cards to fill, but it certainly was Wiskord because of its characteristic design and many have a problem with rewinding. The tape in the cassette isn't the worst, and it is low-noise. :) In my opinion tape is better than Stilon. But it's assembled without a good precision which makes for example problem with rewinding it. PS: I have one chrome Wiskord cassette. :)
@HammondDirk4 жыл бұрын
@@FixingOldStuff Exactly, that was what I was thinking! Probably even the posts for the "elephant teeth" for the Security Mechanism are there. Funny to hear that it is of bad quality, because the BASFs having this case in black have a very solid feeling, decent quality shell!
@ireneuszmaksim32045 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice movie, I have been waiting for it. Stilon was the chemical factory in Poland. They made the shells, boxes and J-cards ( propably printed out in another factory), the tapes inside were bought in Germany for sure. So, It wasn't full production. Imagine that tapes in 80's were not avalible easilly in Poland. In Golden Age of tape recorders. ... I haven't see this model at all, however I was aware that it existed. Moreover the cassetes were sold without any additional cover, I could say it were opened. Tony thanks for that movie again. Aha, one thing at the end there were no Russian tapes in Poland at that time, opposite propably yes.
@professionalvr5 жыл бұрын
During the 80s Bulgaria produced audio and VHS tapes under the "Видео Драгор" (Video Dragor) brand in the "Dinko Banenkin" factory for magnetic storage in the village of Dragor, Pazardjik region. The factory made type I and II cassettes with Agfa and BASF tape inside of them. The factory also produced cassettes for the state record company " Balkanton".
@comicmania20085 жыл бұрын
Since watching your vids, I've started listening to some KZbin library tracks. There's loads of really nice music in there, it's well worth making a 90 minute tape and listening on a loop just to relax to after work!
@Konstantin_Terletskiy5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Tony! As for ECP, I got two of them, one is the UF 90 similar to one in your video, another one is the EF 90, which has the same tape in it, but he shell is just simple clear one. I really like these cassettes, the vendor was the ElectroChemical Plant (ECP) located in Zelenogorsk, Krasnoyarsk region, Siberia, Russia. That was a big factory previously working mostly for defence, then in 90s they decided to start making good cassettes and bought the technology from BASF. First cassettes has the Russian-made shells, but tape was shipped there from BASF, later even the tape was made in Zelenogorsk using BASF technology. Actually I already published the description and pictures of my ECP cassettes in your Facebook group.
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
Вопрос, а "ЗММ"ы с синими и зелёными вкладышами "EF60" и "EF90" (не помню, у какой длины какой цвет) случайно не оттуда же? 🤔 Это многое бы объяснило (где-то всплывали запечатки с обёрткой ECP, но внутри было что-то из времён "я его слепила...")
@bobczarnoskory86374 жыл бұрын
fun fact in 90s in my home town Gorzów where Stilon was placed find a c 60 cassettes was almost imposible
@АлексейЩёголев-ы5б5 жыл бұрын
Е.С.Р- российские кассеты с пленкой basf производились в Красноярске.для того времени были на уровне basf ferro extra l.
@romicsv96984 жыл бұрын
В Зеленогорске. До Красноярска еще 150 км....
@kit-ekat81395 жыл бұрын
im amazed how much information you can find out, about something so niche, and obscure.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Look hard enough on the internet and you'll find groups dedicated to anything. I one found a group dedicated to collecting old candy bar wrappers...
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
Because it was neither niche nor obscure back in the day :P Judging by a rather tiny period of this madness ur humble servant :DD happened to witness... taping and listening to commercial MCs was anything but niche back then, especially in households that got their first CD players only at the turn of the millenia xD (a good 90% of Lithuania, our family included 😂)
@dariuss79235 жыл бұрын
It's glad to see, someone have product from Lithuania. Cheers from Lithuania
@flyingkillerrobots8775 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tony -interesting to see some eastern bloc tapes. Maybe you SHOULD get a Patreon set up. Mat over at Techmoan seems to get stuff sent to him all the time. I just hate to see you lose money on these videos. Just know there are those of us out here that really appreciate you taking it for the team. Also, I’m glad to see you now have a North American store .. I may have to order a couple of things I’m curious about now that shipping costs aren’t lethal.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
I don't want to beg for money. I would need to "up my game" and dedicate far more time to the videos in order for them to be worth a subscription. The guys that do it, do it full time in order to do this. I've worked hard for 25 years to get to where I have in my career, and I'm not going to give it up to do cassette videos 😁
@kiirunavaara5 жыл бұрын
About the shells used here: - The Acme shell is from Kolormagnetics (China): www.kolorcn.com/kolor-media/cassette This exact model is not listed on their website any more, but has been there before, and is also known as the "ICM style" shell, because it is a design copy of a widely used ICM shell (JVC, Scotch XS II-S et al.) Tape in the Acme can very well be Emtec's late 90's FeCo formulation, which was used in CS II, and recently in the ATR Pro Chrome tapes. But this is wild guessing, as I don't have one of these Acme's. - The Stilon shell is undoubtedly a BASF design, but the leader tape and the screws tell that at least the assembly has happened somewhere else. Either in Gorzów at Stilon, or even in Kazan, as suggested in a most interesting comment somewhere below here. Now what we don't know is whether the plastic halves came from BASF, or it was rather using BASF's old moulding tools somewhere else, just as ECP did with the old Agfa tools. Nice detail: The Stilon XCR you opened and tested has BASF shaped slip sheets inside, possibly they are still original stock. The striped slip sheets in the second example you showed are a generic product you could find in quite a variety of cassettes, but never in original BASF's. This was one more interesting tape video, please keep them coming :-)
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
Hehe, knew it! :P (about Kolormagnetics)... it could be Dessauer assembly couldn't it. (One thing however: the screws are silver in these and not black like usual... or "usual") Thank you for the input anyway! 👍 It sure cleared up some fog.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Great insight gents. I knew someone would fill it in 😎
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Great insight gents. I knew someone would fill it in 😎
@BilisNegra5 жыл бұрын
Well, I can see a very familiar logo there, never knew Sennheiser made cassettes... Oh, wait, it's a Stilon!
@hifismiffy5 жыл бұрын
Spot On! The logo looks identical. Maybe you're meant to attach one per ear. Not sure if there classed as closed-back or not! :-)
@DOSORDIE3 жыл бұрын
The Stilon Shell Looks like a BASF from around 1986-1989 but clear Instead of black.
@BlackBunik5 жыл бұрын
I am trying to find old Emgeton casettes. They were made in former Czechoslovakia by studio labs in Barandov. They were quite common back in the days, but once the market opened to far higher quality tapes from outside they went extinct very fast. It is almost impossible to find sealed ones, but used ones pop in from time to time in auctions.
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
But were they ever sealed? Heard too many times that neither MKs nor older Polish tapes, nor ORWOs for that matter, ever came sealed from the factory
@BlackBunik5 жыл бұрын
@@previousslayer Yeh in clear celophane usually. Just found some in bazaars. Unfortunatelly in large bundles I am not interested in.
@BlackBunik5 жыл бұрын
@@previousslayer Unfortunatelly out of stock. www.hifibazar.sk/hifibazar-sk/eshop/17-1-Audio-Kazety/0/5/2212-EMGETON-C-90LN-Position-Normal
@xsc10004 жыл бұрын
They were produced in Zlín (Gottwaldov at that times) film studios. It was branch of Barrandov studios. Frequency response of late 80s tapes was quite good, but there were dropouts and higher noise. Mechanical quality of the cassette was bad.
@Fluteboy5 жыл бұрын
From behind the Iron Curtain. If only it were a chrome curtain?
@shadowflash7055 жыл бұрын
Fluteboy fun fact - type II Soviet cassettes do exist so here you go, your chrome curtain.
@MrMarukas865 жыл бұрын
Metal is type 4 much better than chrome
@chevycaprice875 жыл бұрын
Stilon is a soviet-look tape from early 1990's, shell, hubs - are typical soviet MK-60, but tape probably from ORWO. There was a lot of ex-MK's in early 90's with different names and different tapes inside. And yes also that weird looking versions with dark slip sheet (that slip sheet from non-transparent black or white shells).
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Good insight. Whatever is in it, it's a good sounding cassette.
@mrnmrn15 жыл бұрын
ORWO tapes in the '80s were not useless, although they were considered being made of sandpaper. They ate the heads. I have only one of those, the tape looks quite dull, so I can imagine it might be quite abrasive.
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
@@mrnmrn1 wasn't the last run Fe I LH (yellow J-card) somewhat "good"? Also, ORWO apparently made the last lineup of Magnas ("The Tape" with clear shells). And again, Dessauer Magnetband with their over9000 models started on the remnants of ORWO if I'm not mistaken
@mrnmrn15 жыл бұрын
@@previousslayer I have no idea. I only know the brand from stories, I have only one single ORWO cassette from the mid '80s (K60, white shell, silver and black J-card with rainbow-ish stripes in the lower right corner). I haven't tried to record on it yet, because it contains recordings I want to preserve. Radio and TV-show recordings in mono from the '80s, mainly speech, probably recorded with a mono boombox or a 'shoebox' deck. From what I can hear through this, it doesn't sound that hopelessly bad. It's very hissy, but that might be caused by the recorder.
@chevycaprice875 жыл бұрын
I have ORWO K60 in white shell with white-blue label, tape down't look like sandpaper, its dark-brown, smooth and shiny, I record it, sounds very well.
@aurabalcyte93534 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon sir... Looks like you got there some of the rarest ReVox ever made...B-216!😍✌
@jaymartinmobile5 жыл бұрын
Tony, Have you ever thought of doing a spectrum trace when comparing the tape sound quality? I for one would be interested in seeing what the tape response vs. the original source plots out on different tapes. I am not trying to get you to spend lots of money on this, I was more thinking using the tools in Audacity or similar to just do a rough graph looking for frequency roll-off and such. This isn't because I don't think you do a good job here, but KZbin is compressing the audio from your comparison tests so your audience never really hears exactly what you do in the studio. With the graphs we could see visually how the tape is performing. Just my thoughts. I know it would require a lot of additional work on your part to accomplish this so take the suggestion as you will. I still find the channel entertaining and informative regardless.
@СтаниславЛюбшин-м7ь5 жыл бұрын
ECP 👍 мне они всегда нравились в своё время
@lacieb45854 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, Tony. 'Ve bought several packs of ECP's. Perform well,- nearly like BASF Ferro Extra. Question: LG HP 90 what the tape like?? Better than the ECP Ferro or not? Thank you!
@cactuslily88295 жыл бұрын
how are maxell ue 90 s (green colored ones) they seem to be easily available in my country and around a dollar each for a piece
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
They should be fine for that price
@verastaki5 жыл бұрын
I have to the same ECP cassette, but it's green. The quality is amazing
@MihaiGradin5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that noticed the "BASF TAPE" writing on the Acme? 😂
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Well, I missed it 😁 But a pure Fe/co from BASF? The only cassettes they used that in themselves were their last generation Chrome Maxima and TPII Reference Master. I don't believe they would use this tape in these Acme...
@MihaiGradin5 жыл бұрын
Cassette Comeback Yeah... Definitely not BASF. 😁 Tony, I heard you mention ORWO tapes and to tell you the truth... don't get that sandpaper tape near any of your decks. 😂
@fhwolthuis5 жыл бұрын
No 😁
@peachent5 жыл бұрын
I came on here specifically to write that, I was almost shouting at the screen lol.
@groovechampion1462 Жыл бұрын
These looks like 90´s 2000´s tapes, would be super interesting to see Sovjet era tapes.
@comicmania20085 жыл бұрын
They all sound really nice to me!
@milanlukiclundzi36815 жыл бұрын
2:10 I would give this audio compact cassette ECP Ultra Ferro, on a five star scale, two stars. Oh, but wait, they have already given their rating and have already put two stars on the wrapping of the cassette. Nice! 📼⭐⭐ 😂
@CaptainDangeax4 жыл бұрын
the most important tool for a cassette lover is not a Nakamichi Dragon in perfect functioning state, no, it's neither a full stock of NOS tapes from Germany or Japan, no, no, no, it's just a good old reliable and French ball rolling "BIC Crystal" pen to rewind and tighten the tapes
@CvetkovIlian4 жыл бұрын
Tony, on the JCard of the Acme it is written BASF Tape. ;-)
@jd-vv4ri5 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you PLEASE make a video about head cleaner and demagnetizer tapes and which ones are better that you can recommend by your experience THANK YOU in advance...
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Not going to happen. I clean using cotton swabs and isopropyl alcohol on heads and Servisol foam cleaner on pinch rollers. That's the best way to do it.
@Godzilla9415 жыл бұрын
I was poking around the net a not too long ago and found out that (I think) Tesa used to sell numbered A/V splice tape with the intention of identifying malfunctioning loading machines. So basically anyone could have used it for whatever reasons they saw fit...
@Lion-ow4br4 жыл бұрын
thanks for your lovely and Informative videos what is the best German deck?
@CassetteComeback4 жыл бұрын
For me, Revox B215, but I've never used any others apart from Dual.
@s.g.30424 жыл бұрын
Why would you want a german deck? The germans lost the game to the japanese early on. There were some "ghettoblasters" in the 80s, which were labeled "Telefunken", "Siemens" and "Grundig", which were in fact just rebadged Sanyo (at best!) or even taiwanese made. The only german Hi-Fi manufacturers are Dual and Metz, But even them let produce their tech mostly in Asia since the late 70s.
@kylehazachode5 жыл бұрын
Translation didn’t pop up
@Kyle-sg4rm5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Some of these ferric tapes you're testing, really sound quite good - as far as I can tell from a digitised and youtube compressed demo. Just out of curiosity, do you know if there were ever any decks (excluding multitrack recorders) with a switch for 3.75 IPS? A good mastering deck, basically. Thanks!
@s.g.30424 жыл бұрын
yes and why not? Normal IEC Type I tapes by TDK D or Maxell UR are quite decent.
@MrMissingReel5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Revox B215 in mint condition on ebay.....it's all your fault 😂
@NicholasBlackfire5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Moscow, and I'm your fan. In my childhood I used a lot of ECP cassette tapes, but now my fav cassettes are Maxell, TDK and Sony. From 1980s and 1990s. Wait for my playlist!
@alexandershalin35435 жыл бұрын
@@nneeerrrd This channel is about cassettes, not about your butthurt.
@UlfrikTB5 жыл бұрын
@@nneeerrrd The Globalist Union (UN) can go fuck themselves. Filthy rats.
@alexandr69775 жыл бұрын
Yes it is true.But please contact the Russian gowernmemt, but not the common people.
@alexandershalin35435 жыл бұрын
@@nneeerrrd Терпи, украiнець!
@alexandershalin35435 жыл бұрын
@@nneeerrrd When Ukrainian lies? When he opens his trap.
@markphilpot49815 жыл бұрын
Not bad sounding tapes, ya that is pretty hard to get a bad sounding tape on a Revox B215. Unless the tape is just crap, it doesn’t happen! It’s true about the Revox decks, it can turn beer into champagne!
@wrestletube14 жыл бұрын
ECP and ACME look to both have BASF/EMTEC on the label so just a Eastern block different shell BASF and I don't expect any worse than the big player. Stillion if it smells more like a Chrome though is more likely to be another BASF import but the pure one probably.
@vilaintrolltrollinsky80075 жыл бұрын
Is this deck better than the dragon ????
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Some aspects of it are, some aren't.
@mrnmrn15 жыл бұрын
Hi, Tony! Black slip sheets are coloured not for aesthetic reasons. The black coating is a conductive paint, which is supposed to elmininate static charge on the tape, to prevent the tape turns sticking to each other. But I agree, it's ugly in a clear shell, *except* if it was a white silkscreened pre-recorded cassette. The the black background is quite handy for white silkscreen. Also, you missed that the ACME J-card says there's BASF tape inside in that one as well. So both the ACME and ECP tapes are BASF-made, the ECP one might be made in Russia with BASF technology. I have no idea about the tape in the Polish Stilon cassette.
@jjcale22885 жыл бұрын
Well, it's not electroconductive paint, although it is graphite and it is not there for electrostatic discharge ( not earthed ), but for reducing the friction between the reels and shell.
@mrnmrn15 жыл бұрын
@@jjcale2288 It's conductive, I measured it many years ago. It's not necessary to be grounded. It doesn't discharge the tape, it just balances the charge between the reels, and between different sections of the tape, so the tape doesn't stick to itself. *BUT* I agree, graphite is also a very good lubricant, so it probably helps a lot by making the slip sheet more slippery. Maybe the graphite layer was designed mainly for that, and the charge equalization is just a (useful) side effect. But I suspect both effects were considered.
@jjcale22885 жыл бұрын
@@mrnmrn1 as I have never seen any specifications or advertise on this feature to know the intention of the manufacturer, I supose we both could be right.
@mrnmrn15 жыл бұрын
@@jjcale2288 I'm not sure, but maybe 15-20 years ago I've seen that advertised on some cassette's wrapper. But I can't recall which brand was it. I found out it is conductive in about 2005, when I found the remains of literally thousands of pre-recorded cassettes still in the wrapper, thrown away along the road at an illegal dumpsite in Hungary. Unfortunatelly I arrived too late, it was there for months, most of them were broken, and wet, trampled into the mud. And almost all erased. In the wrapper. They put them in microwave ovens to bulk erase them. I found out this by seeing some of them had their black slipsheets melted or burnt because of its conductivity. I rescued what I could, I may still have some of them somewhere. On most of them there was classical music (I can recall a ton of identical ones from Berlioz, made in the early '80s), and some late '90s- early '00s French pop. The cassettes came from France, I know because some of them had price tags on them with the name of the store, and a few was in those hard anti-theft 'cages'. Some valuable ones were also destroyed there, unfortunatelly. Like Dire Straits Brothers in Arms '80s release on chrome tape! Only find one of those, it was wet, erased, with molten slip sheet...
@jjcale22885 жыл бұрын
@@mrnmrn1 😣 this is how Kapitalism affects art and technology. French cassetes dumped in Hungary! Must be some UE regulation that admits such acts, otherwise they would dump them on Champs Elisee 😂😂😂. Bolond vilag!
@dharvell4 жыл бұрын
I have to ask... where do you get these awesome cassettes? I can barely find a stock-standard Memorex, anymore... Edit: Okay, you just answered that question, literally in the first 30 seconds.
@Mister-Salieri5 жыл бұрын
I remember from back in early 2000's on a movie, some guy has pulled a tape out of his pocket and look like this one in 5:00
@bryanotero1235 жыл бұрын
Damn ur photographic memory is insane
@nickbitten60375 жыл бұрын
Greetings Tony- intetesting, as have never seen these brand of tapes before. * Going off-piste slightly, are you aware if any persons in the South West who service/ ovethaul tape decks please? I have some that need a refresh and am worried about doing it myself. As always, thanks for the great content.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Don't know of anyone in the UK except B&W for Naks. That's why I buy Naks...
@nickbitten60375 жыл бұрын
@@CassetteComeback Many thanks for the tip. Perhaps i should look to purchase a Nak after all? All the best.
@showstopperrob10975 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, Happy New Year 2020. Great and intresting video again. You proove everytime That music and tape industry is allway's makes everyone's head turning round. Now something about the Swiss brand Revox. I assume yu know Revox is the consumer part off the Profesional Brand Studer. The Revox B215 is the consumer Cassette Deck off the Studer A721. The Studer A721 does have some more futures. But furthermore they are actually the same machine. I know this because I do own both models. But now it comes, Revox is indeed a Swiss brand but they are asemblemd in Germany. Which meens the tapetransport and so on are made in Swiss but are put together in Germany. Even my Studer is assembled in Germany. But their some exeptions. My Revox B285 receiver is made in Switserland The later versions like the MK2 are made in Germany. This is even the case with their Cd Players. On the other hand the 2 factories were only around 10Km apart from echother, so in my eyes there's not much differance. Resuming, All machines are developed in the Swiss and the first editions are made in Swiss. Hope it will help you.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Swiss / German, still loads better than Chinese when it comes to HiFi 😁
@dariorossi20704 жыл бұрын
Quanto costa questa passione?
@solkompleksowa4445 жыл бұрын
These stilon tapes are probably from 90s, so they arent genuine communist-era stilon (which were of agfa origin probably, R2R tapes were certainly), there is a ferric iteration of that stilon one and it looks as if it contained basf ferro extra tape, might do more tests to confirm that
@Konstantin_Terletskiy5 жыл бұрын
Yes, these are from 90-s already, not communist-era.
@ВиталийГлушков-з8г5 жыл бұрын
Экспортная ECP была у нас в России , у меня в коллекции есть других цветов : зеленая , серая и как у вас на видео черная , попадался брак , но и Basf тоже попалась с браком , кассеты сделанные в China мусор , так как портят лпм
@radarradar48464 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте!То что китайские кассеты мусор согласен на все сто процентов, а как они лпм портят? Интересуюсь чтобы не испортить аппарат.
@ВиталийГлушков-з8г4 жыл бұрын
@@radarradar4846 так и портят как мусор засоряет планету.
@jjcale22885 жыл бұрын
You better smell the roses!
@buretehudesi4 жыл бұрын
This must be very late stilon in basf case. The early stilon was entirely made in poland including the tape. They also made vhs tapes. It was a big chemical company employing 12000 people.
@mangu8s5 жыл бұрын
This acme cassette is made in early 2000's because I have similar looking cassette but type I tape which I bought brand new at that time.Those acme cassettes were actually good quality tapes like any other good manufacturer. But at that time many of us who lives in eastern europe still remember tapes which were made in USSR. Those tapes were complete rubbish. Even using high quality deck they sound awful. Look for brand "cbema" as reference. It will be interesting to see demo test.
@Dzejwor_Gromowladny5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Poland but i never saw Stilons like this one. I remember and have some of those apollo-ireland.akamaized.net/v1/files/r35ktntu0eaj-PL/image;s=644x461 They was made in Stilon Gorzow Poland - we stil have football team named Stilon Gorzow and they stil use old logo that was used by tape manufacturer. I called them "Head grinders" ;) They was worse than "type0" maybe "type -2" is proper category for them :D They also produced rell to rell tape.
@tomekkruger5 жыл бұрын
This Stilon cassette was made in the '90s after the overthrow the union of producers "Unitra". Search XCR on the largest Polish auction site. I have a cassette "Jan Bo Wojna w mieście" with such a shell.
@ivanfranciscodossantos9002 жыл бұрын
Beutiful Vintage
@Waffledogchat5 жыл бұрын
Tony, you are similar in age to me. Do you remember Chinese cassettes sold in market stalls in the late seventies/early eighties? They used to sell for about 25p each and each ferric particles was about 1mm across! Slight exaggeration.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, type 0 like Maxim and Melsonic. Wish I could go back to those stalls, I'd buy loads of digital watches 😁
@Waffledogchat5 жыл бұрын
And those LCD clock pens! There was another cassette brand called Sun, I think they must have responded to frequencies to at least 5khz !!!
@verastaki5 жыл бұрын
ECP: Electro Chemical Productions. GM: Green Mount.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@defdef63295 жыл бұрын
can you make casio cassettes
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Only Casio are allowed to make Casio cassettes
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
They're really nothing special* AFAIK, just rebrands. Apparently quite common in the Balkans. c-90.org/catalogue/tapes/Casio One is an SKC rebrand, another is a Goldstar. *not that the Acme in question is something outta this world xD
@defdef63295 жыл бұрын
@@previousslayer same maxell
@theaylesburycyclist87565 жыл бұрын
Hey...!👍
@Ale.K75 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@backmaskingklocucha12624 жыл бұрын
I thought Stilon only made ferric tapes. And people thought they were bad
@wrestletube14 жыл бұрын
I'd probably say it is in fact very easy to find all 3 brands here on your store already in original English versions for cheaper than the foriegn shell. They are all what they say they are BASF foreign tapes. The Type 1 is even you reliable WEA who had one of the so called better pre recorded duplication factories out there pre recorded tapes used tape. That was your Type 1 Ferric that you see in your Hits 7 and your Hits 9 that is put in that crappy Spectrum tapes white brittle can snap under your thumb shell that was produced for Spectrum games. Very good looking case but you can't go in it to toy with a broken tape so you have to smash it and put the tape in somewhere else adn for the looks it was brittle and the rollers just feel hard and crusty with age like they might not even more if you plaayed The Hits Tape 7 or 9 these days. I guess if your got a Hits tape this is a very expensive in the UK foreign shell thats better for storing your tape than the original after it waers out as the proper shell does look good just brittle and the rollers are very stiff as it's the same BASF tape.
@alexandershalin35435 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony, you're the best!
@danielfaradey76295 жыл бұрын
У меня есть ECP, хорошие кассеты, только цвет ленты не внушает доверия...
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
цвет не показатель :Р куча поздних басфов была рыжая-прерыжая, но звук брала ОЧЕНЬ недурно, ещё и с жирным басом))) вот самые-самые поздние варианты типа "Emtec Sound I" (кстати, на некоторых самых последних, с "золотым" оттиском вместо привычного белого, так и писалось: made in China, вместо привычного EU или Germany/France или что там) были в крапинку и писались "в крапинку", т.е. фигово, и от механики у слабого моторчика кружилась электрическая башка 😂
@scaleop45 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@gamingmusicandjokesandabit12404 жыл бұрын
For some reason I was thinking about a joke (something like in America you clean the tape head, in Soviet Russia tape head cleans you). (no offence).
@animeboyzx64034 жыл бұрын
Came across a Russian version of an TDK MA-R on ebay lol
@SFtheGreat5 жыл бұрын
Meh, I was expecting to see the old Red, Green, Blue and Purple Stilons from the time of soviet occupation of Poland.
@dmitrii75275 жыл бұрын
Хотя тест был не совсем равнозначным,две кассеты хром против одной феррум,котрая не подвела. ESP кассета сделана в России с лентой по технологии фирмы BASF. Лента как и вся кассета изготовлена в России. А не укомплектована импортной лентой,как думают некоторые.
@CassetteComeback5 жыл бұрын
Приятно знать, что это настоящая русская кассета. Я впечатлен этим.
@АлександрКотин-м5ш5 жыл бұрын
Dake К сожалению,в отличие от Range начала девяностых.
@dmitrii75275 жыл бұрын
@@АлександрКотин-м5ш Range помню,в 90х было несколько штук,вроди были по тем временам довольно не плохими. Недавно купил для пробы пару Brasonic DR-1x(прозрачные) , продавец говорил что сделаны в России ,хотя ни одного слова по русски не нашел. Честно сказать,гадость редкостная,сыпется, плёнка кривая. При ручной калибровке уровни скачут как бешеные. Пишет на слух среднячком. И на трех деках с закрытым трактом,через некоторое время начинали тянуть. Не знаю,может такая бракованная партия попалась.
@previousslayer5 жыл бұрын
@@АлександрКотин-м5ш @Dake потому что абсолютный рандом)) Что было на смене - то и зарядили. Касается всех ронисов, рейнджей и прочих анвиков. Самые ранние ECP были "loaded with BASF tape", уже потом надпись заменили на "BASF technology", да и корпус с катками, насколько знаю, позднее повторно удешевили (катки в видео уже последнего образца)
@АлександрКотин-м5ш5 жыл бұрын
Dake Brasonic китайские,как galin mekosonic и тд.и это ещё не нулевой тип как sonny,sunny.
@dariamongus49645 жыл бұрын
ECP - made in Siberia .
@hakonsoreide5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know many seem to think it looks cool, but if you know the Cyrillic alphabet, looking at the font (based on Ukrainian, not Russian) you used on your thumbnail just makes your eyes bleed.
@wrestletube14 жыл бұрын
Pack of 10 new EMI Super's? Am I the only guy that remembers this Middlesex rellic? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pack-Of-10-New-Sealed-VINTAGE-EMI-Super-C90-BLANK-Audio-Cassette-Tapes-RARE/383668139553?hash=item5954673621:g:xawAAOSwODZfHVIx EMI standard www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-C90-STANDARD-CASSETTE-NEW/324148849960?hash=item4b78c6ed28:g:TFoAAOSwfedeENha Stars www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-sealed-x-10-VINTAGE-EMI-STAR-C90-BLANK-AUDIO-CASSETTE-TAPES-LOW-NOISE/283988946449?hash=item421f0f6e11:g:z5wAAOSwy91fIBgP XT www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-XT-C60-1981-Cassette-Tape-Playing-Cards-NEW-SEALED/303540751892?hash=item46ac704e14:g:bw8AAOSwxNBcfSNk Hi-Fi pre used but I remember it most www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-Hi-Fidelity-C90-1970s-Cassette-Blank-Tape-1227/114323469284?hash=item1a9e35b3e4:g:8awAAOSwM2BfHXLa Soundhog www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-EMI-Soundhog-audio-cassette-tape-60-used-Rare/114280469741?hash=item1a9ba594ed:g:kA0AAOSwgMFe-Jtq Hi Dynamic www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-EMITAPE-C120-HI-DYNAMIC-USED-CASSETTE-TAPE-VINTAGE/224016121834?hash=item342866bfea:g:BZUAAOSw8xxcxEJK EMI Tape www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-EMITAPE-C120-VINTAGE-USED-CASSETTE-TAPE-MADE-IN-THE-UK-GREEN-CARD/224138691888?hash=item342fb50530:g:98MAAOSwkW5dmHxo Superchrome but how super is it? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMI-SUPERCHROME-II-C90-VINTAGE-USED-CASSETTE-TAPE-TYPE-II-CHROME-POSITION/224138691872?hash=item342fb50520:g:4V0AAOSwkoddb~B2 EMI Tape version of Soundhog www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-EMITAPE-Soundhog-90-cassette/223998893677?hash=item34275fde6d:g:VcMAAOSwjmher-~1 Job lot with many old relics like EMI Supers and one of your Contec 0s. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cassette-tape-job-lot-emi-basf-scotch-x-35/324293316889?hash=item4b81635119:g:OREAAOSwIeVfRtC3 How many EMI tapes do you remember and do you remember them being real Type 1 & 2 or Type 0 quality? I do remember them fondly because of where they come from and the look as well as still having EMI shells I think mine were all Super/Hi-Fi/Standard though. I think as they are from our home country it's worth covering these tapes one day maybe but they are rare the company Thorn EMI of Feltham is dead now. EMI had one foreign range tape as well it seems lol. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-EMI-c60-Cassette-Tape-Sealed/362930040348?hash=item548050ee1c:g:A-AAAOSwdXheWo7S
@mapp47515 жыл бұрын
too bad we cannot get to try some here in the west!