RWBY: Neo vs Cinder [Full scene]

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Neo is back and Cinder is alive! O.o

[@geryang6621]

Neo: I can't speak. Cinder: Right.

[@GZilla311]

She forgot about that part.

[@brianhoang2723]

Neo never talks. Always.

[@elinacarmina3050]

She let out a small gasp when Ruby knocked her off the airship. I dunno if that means anything, though.

[@brianhoang2723]

That did not count.

[@blacklion8307]

@@brianhoang2723 It is, however, her entire justification for having a voice actor.

[@matix1256]

Cinder : lets talk. Neo: JEEZ its 6 volume and they still think i can speak...

[@Jo-ik1mq]

Reminds me of how the characters from the last airbender keep forgetting that Toph is blind

[@alexshen9639]

matix1256 the funny thing is that neo has a voice actor

[@evattra]

Alex Shen She does?

[@ambercarbuncle1440p]

@@alexshen9639 who's her voice actress

[@TheEnglishOtaku]

Casey Williams

[@GZilla311]

"I didn't kill your boss." No, you just led to the situation that caused his death. TOOOOOTALLY different.

[@oliverwithers9736]

I didn’t kill your boss I let my pet bird do it for me

[@D3Smok3]

@@oliverwithers9736 😂😂😂

[@aname4141]

When you put it like that. It kinda sounds like saying “I didn’t kill that person. The hitman I hired did.”

[@br0dyj08n9]

Tbh it's kinda his fault

[@cunningsmile4166]

Blame Little Red for attacking the ship. It drew Roman out

[@L0rdLexan01]

Fun Fact: Neo wasn't originally supposed to be mute, but RT couldn't get a Voice Actor for her in time so she had no spoken dialogue. The community latched on to her muteness as a meme and thus was made canon. Additional fun fact: Roman Torchwick was supposed to be a throwaway "villain of the week" to introduce Cinder, but he was liked so much that they made him a main antagonist.

[@cunningsmile4166]

He originally was meant to have tje semblance Deep Pockets. But he didn't have a place to use it. So it went yo Fiona of the Merry Huntresses instead

[@MaverickX578]

Her being mute actually makes her even more of a badass.

[@LeElister64]

Roman got removed from the story at exactly the right time. We all remember him as a great antagonist and his death gave depth and motivation to Neo.

[@Zi_965]

actually Neo does have a voice actor to make grunts and such when fighting I think they just wanted Neo to be mute so we could see how powerful see is even without talking

[@tableswithoutchairs1168]

well at least they listened to their community

[@animegx45]

Cinder: You've gotten stronger. Neo: You've gotten weaker.

[@illusionannika4570]

Burned so much cinders name is now literal

[@deadpoolchimichangas7111]

True but hey we got neo back

[@Chellythefox]

I don't see Neo teaming up with RWBY considering Ruby indirectly caused Roman's death and considering that Neo had a close relationship with him.... Yeah...

[@andreimacaspac7204]

Get burned cinder

[@HeckinLeBork]

But Neo can't talk

[@nixnoct4883]

That is one extremely high quality umbrella

[@richkendall4882]

Nix Noct Neo, the Mary Poppins of RWBY

[@alenafrancesca9635]

More powerful than the umbrella in the first Kingsman movie, in fact!

[@zvproduction4740]

@@alenafrancesca9635 kingsman: we have an umbrella for a weapon Neo: hold my beer

[@Donkieto]

It's also a gun

[@jai6719]

*Where do they sell this top-notch stuff?*

[@EnchantedSymphony999]

"Let's talk," she says to the mute. Its this scene in particular that instantly made Neo my favorite villain

[@Wright805]

Plus at the end Neo points to her mouth and Cinder realises her faux pas. "Oh right."

[@Da_caffeinated_insomniac]

That shoulder drop from cinder was hilarious for some reason

[@kodybulbasaurhat2332]

@@Da_caffeinated_insomniac I think it just makes it more of a believable moment like she's both annoyed at the fact neo pointed it out and herself cause she forgot lol

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

but neo is so boring

[@ZmQuad]

LOL! I never picked up on that! Cracked me up

[@sixofender3478]

Ne's fighting style just has so much class, it's great that even she can stand up to Cinder one on one without her maiden powers, in so many of those freeze frames she was fighting with her hand on her back. She's not even afraid to taunt Cinder.

[@royaltyroseushearts]

Yeah cause from her sword, movements and her way of parying attacks, it's clear she's a fencer and as I've seen, they mostly fight with an arm behind their back.

[@code066funkinbird3]

It's English martial arts

[@thatnentendogamer3611]

That's a fencing style, not a taunt. Having your arm behind your back makes you harder to hit. Still shows that that she isn't some criminal lowlife but rather someone with the skills of an actual huntress

[@taiall]

Wow Neo actually cared for Roman. She may be silent and deadly, but the fact that she's wearing his hat actually shows that she has a heart.

[@oworeagan8565]

Tarik Alleyne she actually called/write Roman that "but he's my dumdum" in rwby chibi I don't know what episode but it has something about 'button' in the title

[@vynonyoutube1418]

@@oworeagan8565 Chibi isn't canon, but yes, she does care about Roman, and he did care for her as well (since he was visibly angry when Ruby sent her flying in Volume 3)

[@Xgendude14]

I dont care if RT says that they have a father-daughter relationship, EVERYONE ships Roman and Neo together, and me too :)

[@Jaerek]

Matthew Leong When does RT say that?

[@tico2000]

hehe Silent and Deadly

[@oogabooga7150]

Neo would've mopped the floor with cinder if it weren't for her maiden powers

[@antavich12]

Awesome Team yessssssssssss!!

[@user-Jay178]

Maybe

[@dragonfable66]

Truth

[@spinylightgaming]

I agree so much.

[@georgesamarasful]

No? Cinder is still a great fighter. They both landed a couple hits on each other

[@okiguessslothsarenice7519]

Dang when NEO said “ “Man I felt that 😔

[@hisyammarzuqi55]

Underrated

[@antonioarredondo9680]

Cinder: Lets talk Neo: " " Cinder: Right... I felt that...

[@DerpyCorgo]

Man I somehow fell for that LOL

[@Wolfencreek]

Miss Malachite: "Take it outside" Neo: "I'ma end this windows whole career"

[@choerrychile5042]

Wouldn’t say it if I’d take it tho to u

[@LazzyVamples]

"Word of the day is 'defenestration.'" "Defene-what?" *smash cut to Cinder being thrown out of the window.*

[@devinreis5811]

The whole time, she's just like, "I've seen Scarface, and you bitches aren't Tony Montana."

[@furihime494]

I'm pretty sure that Neo still blames Cinder for Roman's death. Neo's just afraid of Cinder's power right now in the same way that Roman was.

[@elinacarmina3050]

True. But she’s probably mad at Ruby as well.

[@kylecyrus9457]

Nah, Neo realizes beating cinder is a little out of her league right now but she can run with ease so she's not terrified of her power, it's just Cinder is giving her a new target to vent so there's no reason not to listen.

[@rezonpokemon3854]

im just waiting for neo to stab cinder in the back when she isn't looking. (i do hope that relic spring din't give her immortality)

[@nicebot337]

I think that Neo knew from the beginning that she couldn't beat cinder since she has maiden power. This fight was just a way to make sure that she actually can't defeat her and also a way to find a better way to kill her and Ruby : she can't kill cinder, so they'll go after ruby, so team rwby will fight against cinder and this is when she'll backstab her. Then she'll take revenge on Ruby. Since not even Yang (who is btw the best fighter of team rwby) couldn't even touch her, killing rwby will be easy af

[@sephtis]

Neo probably understand well Ruby had no chance of beating Roman, so the one to blame would be Cinder for dragging them into all of that crap. Then again revenge can be blind, but I think our little Rubes is safe-ish from a combined neo/cinder front while Neo looks for the best time to shank cinder.

[@benjaminmcneil574]

I'm sorry... ...Neo got *STRONGER?* Pre-Time Skip Neo curbstomped the hell outta Yang, and here she mostly had Cinder on the defensive until she activated Maiden power. *Damn.* Guess that's what happens when you've got nothing left to lose...

[@jsdotigboigamer]

Benjamin McNeil She probably meant with her semblance

[@victorgarcia2713]

It’s entirely likely that the Neo that Cinder fought in the restaurant was a total illusion, meaning she’s strong enough that her illusions have some form of force behind them and can somehow interact with physical things It’s a bit far fetched, but definitely would show off Neo’s strength now

[@SifGreyfang]

No its mostly that Cinder can't fight by herself for shit unless she uses the maidens power as a crutch

[@HalfDemonInuyasha]

To be fair, Yang was still only an inexperienced student at the time. Sure Yang beat up some normal thugs here and there and has a strong semblance, but she never fought anyone like Neo before (that and she was already tired from not having much sleep at the time, IIRC), so Neo effortlessly owning Yang isn't really anything to brag about for her.

[@lnsflare1]

I mean, Neo got casually stomped on and forced to flee by a Raven who wasn't even using her own Maiden powers, while Cinder was good enough to have an extended battle against a fully pissed off and all out Raven and, if not win, at least manage to not die. Being able to force Cinder (who, admittedly, didn't even want to fight) to pull out Maiden powers is a pretty hefty power up for Neo.

[@boogityprime6825]

Neo clearly has an advantage against opponents who rely on brute strength. Neo’s quick, timed, and well-placed strikes are made using her opponent’s reliance on strength over agility and movement. Cinder made wide, sweeping motions while Neo made narrow, tight, focused movements to hit Cinder. Neo’s fighting style is also more highly refined to be unpredictable. She rarely was hit directly by Cinder because she was able to anticipate the aggressive, wide attacks and dodged as the blows were still being made. Her fight against Yang also showed her use of her opponent’s anger to her advantage. When adrenaline starts going the way it did with both Yang and Cinder, thought goes out of the window and you think with your fists. Neo stays collected and calm in a fight, coordinating her strikes to keep her opponent on their toes rather than giving into rage or pride. I’m certain that had Cinder not been a maiden, Neo would have been able to defeat her far more easily in the alleyway. You can see how Neo is able to keep up with Cinder and is even a step or two ahead in most scenarios. Neo is the better fighter without a doubt.

[@romualdcaffeserre6230]

She was rarely hit by cinder because cinder was playing soft. Cinder didnt even pulled her knifes out until the very end of the fight, she fought her with her bare hand for 90% of it and spent the whole time trying to desescalate the situation. Despite this, cinder managed to: -blockthe umbrella 0:33 -kick neo 0:45 -grab neo, and launch her across the room 1:00 -nearly killed her 1:05 How is this "dominating her opponent"? And besides, look at the amplitude of every punch cinder gives. Neo hit fast, but weak. Every punch coming from cinder hit like a god damn truck, it's a mountain vs the red viper kind of fight, one mistake and neo is out.

[@aerialmacaroon6312]

@@romualdcaffeserre6230bs

[@skyletjasondean7727]

@@romualdcaffeserre6230 have you ever heard of exhausting your opponent while striking ? Her attacks may be weak but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t hurt or affect your movement of your vision. Just like how she uses her environment. If Cinder doesn’t have the Maiden’s power he wouldn’t even have a chance and he would only have a bow and a blade in hand. Exhausting her but since she is a maiden it would take more that to take her down or exhausted her.

[@SpiderkillersInc]

Which is also why Maria beat her. Maria uses the same kind of fighting style, but with a Semblance that allows for greater reaction time.

[@jfox09]

You know your stuff, your analysis is on spot. Neo does use a more close range approach which also corresponds to her size as well as her sembelance. Cinder was too aggravated and wasting movement at a close range. Neo was more calm and didn’t make as many unnecessary moves which ensured that she had the upper hand, until Cinder used her Fall maiden power. This is one of the reasons I like this show. The fights are very beautifully coordinated and very entertaining. For example, ruby using a synth (not sure I spelled that right) a weapon massive in size and long range requires her to use distance and momentum to execute her attack and defense. This also includes how she uses the sniper rifle.

[@djcuevas1057]

Raven: If you were stronger or more clever than maybe, you would remember to watch your back. She remembered.

[@travb7772]

Shit that completely went over my head till just now lol

[@fangirl3323]

​@@travb7772 same

[@machaelamcqueen883]

Cinders logic is flawed. It was Cinder that got Roman killed. Because CInder forced Roman to get involved with that plan. It was CInders Plan to release the grimm. Cinder is the cuase for Romans death.

[@maid3685]

Honestly I don’t think Cinder was to blame for Roman’s death. Roman knee full well what was going to happen, he got cocky and got fucked.

[@Pokeboy4561]

It's not her Logic, shes manipulating Neo

[@maid3685]

Deadly Malice not really he was already a criminal to begin with, it was for his own game and it fucked him over in the end.

[@Pokeboy4561]

Wasn't talking to you, was referring to the original comment

[@elinacarmina3050]

Your logic is flawed if you think Neo has no reason to be mad at Ruby.

[@lamontaylopez2085]

I love the window scene "it's time to take it outside" then u just see cinder fly out the window

[@elpopman2055]

Yep More Like Neo Tossed her out of The Window.😂

[@tylerandrews3815]

"It's time to take it outside" Neo: Hold my beer

[@angelicgalaxy4534]

@@OkashiiAmerican lol

[@ChristopherCapersJones]

That is so funny. Neo just chucks Cinder's Maiden ass out the window. Best comedic part of an action scene and RWBY doesn't have any comedic scenes during their fights so that says a lot.

[@BlankRival]

@@ChristopherCapersJones It also makes you wonder what Neo did to not only throw her ass out the window but what did she do do to close that sizeable gap between them to do so.

[@nobgs4505]

My favorite moment is the bit right after 0:47 where Neo distracts Cinder by using the bowls and stuff, then when she has an opening, tries to slice Cinder's neck open. This isn't the Neo that would savor the kill like she was trying to do with Yang back in Season 2. She wanted Cinder DEAD, and all it takes is one neck slice.

[@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790]

How did Neo expect to get through Cinder's aura with a single slice?

[@neonal18]

@@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 I don’t think she necessarily expected it to work just like that, but when you’re trying to kill someone, you go for the kill regardless of life force shielding.

[@djdedf1sh473]

Let’s take a moment to appreciate how powerful Neo’s Umbrella is

[@Neapolitanicecream1130]

parasol*

[@cunningsmile4166]

Specialty made in that very town by request of Roman

[@dustyfedora]

I don’t think that Neo knew that Ruby was alive because for all she knows Ruby perished along side Roman on the airship so it would make sense she would hunt Cinder over Ruby

[@slumberingember]

Ruby didnt kill roman. A Grimm did. The Grimm serve salem and ci der is on salem's side. So she has a right to hate cinder.

[@aidorygregan3849]

Nick Stone or more specifically, Cinder hired Roman to do all the things which led to his death

[@boredhuman6512]

@@slumberingember yes but neo has no idea that ruby didn't kill roman and in her place I would assume that the last person he fought would be to blame

[@benjaminwertz2379]

@@slumberingember Neo wasn't there when the grimm ate him, and the last she saw was him fighting Ruby. Your logic is flawed. The real reason for targeting Cinder is that Neo assumed Roman took Ruby down with him, and because it was Cinder's plan Roman was part of Neo had a new target. Neo doesn't know about Salem or how Cinder actually controls the grimm; she just knows that Cinder was the mastermind of the fall of Beacon, and that Roman was a casualty of Cinder's plan.

[@dorianwynn98]

Exactly.

[@saikyou1980]

0:47 I'M MARY POPPINS Y'ALL

[@richkendall4882]

Jatriya Sphynxs Neo, the Mary Poppins of RWBY

[@JoycapJoshST]

Because wtf are physics

[@erppowell115]

Omg lol

[@cherrychree7858]

Jatriya Sphynxs xd

[@WillRennar]

They're more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

[@pagesagely]

It's so funny how the mob lady is like, "How about you take it outside?" And Neo and Cinder look at each other and the next thing we see is them breaking through the window. I'm imagining Neo looking at Cinder before then and bobbing her head at the door like she's miming, "The door?" And Cinder's already breaking through the glass like, "WINDOW!"

[@royaltyroseushearts]

"How about you take it outside?" They both paused, silence passes as they slowly turned to the other. Neo gives Cinders a look as if asking if they should actually take the fight outside, while Cinders simply shrugs. Neo sighs, bobbing her head in the direction of the door. She couldn't speak so she hoped this would convey enough to Cinders that they should walk out. Cinders, either out of pure ignorance over what Neo tried to convey, spite or not noticing the other's movement. She yells, "THE WINDOW" then turns around and bolts towards the window while Neo quickly follows her wondering why the fuck they couldn't just walk out the door like normal people.

[@raindancejam9466]

@@royaltyroseushearts beautiful, I'm stealing this for myself

[@simplymad6283]

Can we just take a second to appreciate Cinders raw hand to hand combat skills? Like DAMN she is a versatile fighter.

[@peterwright5358]

Exactly! Its the main reason I like this fight scene so much.

[@Derek-so9ym]

I hope Neo becomes like.... an anti hero or smth

[@blxoom]

i was actually hoping she would help ruby take down cinder because cinder killed roman, but cinder had to fucking manipulate her

[@S0RGEx]

@@blxoom Neo isn't that easily swayed, she knows she can't beat Cinder alone with her maiden powers. She's probably just waiting for the right time to take Cinder out and using her to get to Ruby.

[@magpie-yf8gf]

Oh.... so kinda like what I wanted adam to be? Neat! I'm excited

[@nyxmaika9433]

that's why I love neo! she always comes up with a new plan

[@Sunshine-eo2sp]

If Neo became the Vegeta of this series and just comes and goes as she pleases and maybe work with Ruby and the others she might top Yang for me as fav character.

[@izzyeli9810]

0:10 Aw, she didn't get a costume update.... 1:36 oh... nevermind...

[@sentientclockwork3864]

Me, before seeing this episode: Neo's design is amazing, there is no way that it can be improved. Roosterteeth: *Gives Neo a bowler hat* Me: I stand corrected

[@claygraham4063]

You can improve on perfection

[@redonyx8591]

Sentient Clockwork isn’t she just wearing Roman’s hat?

[@supermariobasti]

Red Onyx Her clothes are also torn and ragged

[@primer2023]

Her costume has changed a lot now

[@Lightmagician60]

(Neo fights ruby) (Ruby wins and spares neo) (Neo gets confused) Ruby: "it wasn't me who killed him, a grim ate him" (Neo travels with team rwby)

[@lilshokan]

Talk-no jutsu at its finest if that happens

[@kai8618]

@@lilshokan I mean it's the most powerful Jutsu so.

[@Da_caffeinated_insomniac]

@@lilshokan oh it will in volume 9

[@SubrosianDimitri]

@@Da_caffeinated_insomniac especially if the afterlife theory is true.

[@MurphyTheFish]

@@SubrosianDimitri afterlife theory?

[@jfox09]

I love how everyone in this show knows Kung fu, and has special abilities. Almost like final fantasy or seven deadly sins. And the fights are beautifully executed.

[@theogKavani]

The fights are truly something else in this show

[@centurosproductions8827]

My takeaway from this fight, besides Neo's style being *fantastic*, is that she seems to be pretty good against strength-based fighters.

[@GenshinLover283]

I’m pretty sure that was already established when she fought yang.

[@centurosproductions8827]

@@GenshinLover283 Yes, I was going off that plus this, which appears to be another brute-force assault. The important part is there are now two data points.

[@intrestsofthemind612]

What she lacks in strength she more than makes up for in acrobatics.

[@joshuakim5240]

Neo's fighting style, as can be surmised based on her fights, uses flexibility to counterattack opponents and literally weave around them, pretty much dominating fighters who rely on simple brute force (like Yang). Got to dance around like Neo to beat Neo.

[@MorgaAlba]

Actually its aikido with other style, was told in an interview but cant remember very well.

[@HaydenLau.]

Neo looks so good in Roman's hat And also that's so sad

[@Matias150]

Neo is able to fight hand to hand against the autumn maiden with one hand behind her back That's what I call being at another level

[@blitzus5022]

byMatias 150 That’s because she is using the umbrella as a sword and Cinder couldn’t use her powers in door because that would cause her attention and the crazy lady would of track her down and killed Cinder. You can see that Cinder only used her real power until they got outside.

[@RelicOnYoutube]

Every single fight Neo is In I’m just happy regardless of out come. Neo’s style is always elegant and flexible. I love those types of fighters

[@ANOnyme-tx2ts]

CINDER: Ok then. Let's talk. LUPIN: *shows her mouth* CINDER: ...Right. LOL! That part!

[@turnerp9192]

Lupin?

[@Hubbabubba_x0x]

I don’t get it honestly- Do they wanna discuss while eating or? •-•..

[@ANOnyme-tx2ts]

Amber Drawz It's simply because Neo can't talk, so she reminds her that detail. That's why the irony.

[@Lina-jh2qg]

@@ANOnyme-tx2ts r/woooosh

[@transrightsarehumanrights2821]

Who the hell is Lupin?

[@angelicgalaxy4534]

I cried when Neo wore Roman's hat. R.i.p

[@diamondtartarous8514]

Cinder: Why do I hear battle music? *One Thing intensifies. Cinder: Oh yeah Mary Popins.

[@zomzee]

I never get tired of watching Neo fight.

[@Some_No_Mai]

What's even more amazing about this scenes design is Jess Williams musical composition with Casey Lee almost singing the lyrics of Neos emotions or words. Through Casey you can tell Neo really loved Roman and he was important to her. That's what made this scene even more awesome to me. And at the end there were no words being sung by Casey because there were no words Neo wanted to convey at that point. Just anger. She just wanted to hurt Cinder. So there were no words needing to be spoken/sung.

[@DillonMeyer]

Casey Lee Williams is the voice of Neo, when she makes sounds like grunts and such.

[@nagaking07]

If Neo were to somehow speak, it feels like Casey should do her voice.

[@Star_moses]

Her or Monty's wife since she loved NEO

[@ene7065]

can Casey even voice act?

[@vynonyoutube1418]

Fun fact: Casey did cosplay as Neo.

[@vynonyoutube1418]

@@Star_moses Monty's wife got kicked out after Monty died (no idea why, but it happened). She was also originally intended to voice Winter instead of Neo.

[@vynonyoutube1418]

@Ruby Rose Kicked out.

[@fawkespryde9183]

I do appreciate how they kept the general floatiness of Neo's character during fights. How she curls up small during flips to speed up her trajectory and uses her umbrella to move herself around where she is fighting. Neo's fighting style is fluid and you can tell she knows how to use her surroundings properly because being an illusion user, everything is useful. Senses, movement, surroundings, memories, etc.. It's all useful to help get the edge on your opponent. She's not just a skilled fighter, she's clever in her use of semblance.

[@kingdoppelganger8951]

I like it better when cinder fought hand to hand. Her fighting style looked ferocious. Blood thirsty. Much better than her throwing around fire and glass. Plus her more subtle uses of her power compared to flying around.

[@lorainnesakuraba8658]

If cinder didn't have those mystical power Neo could easily overpower her

[@shaggyat1793]

Yea I would agree but at the same time cinder is probably still weak from her last encounter

[@t-e-x157]

Exactly that’s why she used it at the end.

[@HappyPotat]

I mean, Cinder didn't look like she was trying to beat Neo.

[@shiro7220]

Keep the sweets dreams.

[@evattra]

Cinder looked more like she was trying to incapacitate or knock her out of the fight, not necessarily kill or do anything major.

[@reactiongamerguy9537]

2:31 The irony

[@SavageCaliber22]

Right after neo points to her mouth like "Boi you know I can't talk."

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

Even the scary badass villains can have a funny moment now and again.

[@kbastard]

dude the flex where she was dodging with her hands behind her back.

[@speedupslowdown358]

It’s a fighting style not a flex

[@kbastard]

@@speedupslowdown358 what's the style then- and don't say wing chun.

[@dracohalo117]

Who wants to bet Neo is gonna kill Cinder and become the new Fall Maiden?

[@victorperez5530]

I do my friend and i hope and pray that neo will make miss falls pay for happen to roman.

[@03dove]

The spider lady really doesn’t know how out of place she is against those two.

[@blitzus5022]

Kursei I think you are under estimating the character ;/

[@whiteraven181]

Enough guns will take down almost everyone, and the real threat was the cops coming if they made a fuss murdering everyone in the bar. Also to be fair we don't know how strong Little Miss Malachite is and neither of them could have afforded being distracted by another threat while they fought.

[@devinreis5811]

She's probably thinking, "My bad ass daughters probably watch Bravo's shitty reality shows more than I do, but you bitches are mediocre."

[@bananabear9266]

Neo used to work for her according to Roman Holiday, then she met torchwick

[@sevayen6429]

That hat fits her so well, it's adorable and badass

[@darkminer14]

"What are you doing?" Spoken to a character that literally doesn't talk, gotta love those moments where normally someone would respond all there is, is silence.

[@KeanuOR]

meanwhile my umbrella turns unto a champagne glass by the smallest winds. Updrafts really.

[@WhosManIsThis]

More like cooktails glass lmao

[@ethanlewis3482]

Neo is the absolute reason I want to have an umbrella just like hers ad practice fighting with it. Also, I'm not sure if I agree with the green eye shadow....

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

Parasol not umbrella.

[@iAidanugget]

She had the green eyeshadow in volume 3 as well, but none in volume 2

[@sambradley5140]

ethan lewis I like the eyeshadow, mostly because it's a reference to another ice cream flavour: Chocolate mint

[@brebdob3347]

Mint ice cream

[@jefthereaper]

*Goes back* O damn did not even notice the eyeshadow, already watched this 8 times too.

[@vixenthedemonfoxvixen9831]

Well technically Ruby didn’t kill Roman. It was the Grimm he was the one who decided to go up and fight while hundreds of Grimm were flying in the sky. He should have known one was bound to attack. But for the sake of the plot I’m going to leave it alone for now. But it was technically Cinder since she did threaten him with death if he didn’t corporate so Neo’s judgement wasn’t misplaced

[@blackpinkluv9869]

Vixen the demon fox Vixen I don’t think he really cared that he could get attacked at any moment. He was too drunk with power which made him the best villain

[@blacklion8307]

@@blackpinkluv9869 It actually was something else that killed him. His cocky attitude protected him, in fact, he shielded his emotions behind a nonchalant facade. But faced with Ruby he went on his cynical little rant about how it's a dog-eats-dog world and he has to do what he has to do to surv*CHOMP*. Grimm are attracted by strong and/or negative emotions and he let his emotions shine through his usual act, making himself a target for the gryphon.

[@blackpinkluv9869]

BlackLion therefore his own ignorance and hatred for humanity caused him his defeat

[@blacklion8307]

@@blackpinkluv9869 More like "The Writers that decided that he should have an angry motive rant that didn't really tie in with his character, but they wanted him dead for reasons".

[@blackpinkluv9869]

BlackLion the grim feed on emotions. Making him a ticking time bomb (which further proves why he’s one of the best villains) he doesn’t care who wins wether it’s humans or Faunus. His emotions were like a tracking device for the grim

[@nixchhh]

I love how at the end when cinder says "let's talk" Neo points at her mouth to remind her she can't talk

[@eoneonaeon]

" i love dinner and show , but it's time to take it outside. " * insert window getting smashed * " i didn't say you can break the fucking window- "

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

UH Cinder, you do realize that Roman wouldn't have died if it wasn't for the Grimm that showed up, specifically because of your plan right. You're more to blame than Ruby.

[@georgesamarasful]

Roman decided to monologue about how the world is unfair and cruel. Even though he knew Grimm are attracted to negativity. He brought it on himself

[@nobgs4505]

@@thedarklordx She's probably trying to manipulate Neo. After all, Neo was able to put Cinder on the defensive for most of the fight until Cinder brought out her full powers. Who WOULDN'T want someone like her on their side?

[@dragonstouch1042]

No Bgs I still think Neo’s playing her. Neo’s either smart enough to know when she’s being manipulated or she’s angry enough that both Ruby and Cinder are on her kill list

[@lesnarahamilton5674]

yaaa cinder totaly forced roman to walk out to 100s of flying grim like a dumbass ya soooo cinders failt thats like saying its not the guys failt for puting his hand in a bear trap its his freands for bringing him there thats bad logic

[@AveryScarlet]

Am I the only one a tad bit sad that her eye colors didn't change or switch the whole fight...? I explicitly remember both eyes were white when she got scared... Edit: Guys, it wasn't an animation error. If it was, it wouldn't be so consistent and it would have been solved by volume 3 because even during that time, her eye colors switch. Also, it's a part of her uniqueness. It's why the camera paid close attention to it during her first fight with Yang! So removing it? Just shows how lazy they are to animate that...

[@blues2270]

She was never scared

[@wanderingluck6593]

@@blues2270 She was when Raven first appeared to save Yang

[@ericlin2611]

Her eye colours also swapped depending on whether she was on the defensive or offensive. When her eye colours matched the sides of her hair, she was defending, but they swapped when she switched to attack. Maybe they just forgot. ... Or Neo wasn’t even trying this whole fight.

[@haloelite439]

The Neo in the bar was an illusion. She has no hat one and her clothes aren't the same.

[@ericlin2611]

TheMemester439 her real self wasn’t swapping eye colours either. Neither the illusions nor Neo herself seem to have kept her eye colour changing.

[@allenwood7237]

I love how if you slow it down and pause it at 0:55, you can see that Neo had the blade of her weapon out when she went for Cinder's throat. It's the little details that make this so good.

[@zephelia1299]

Cinder: Alright, let's talk. Neo: *reminds her she's mute* Cinder: Oh right.

[@ArchShades]

So Cinder, you survived your "Fall" afterall?

[@richkendall4882]

Royal silver GOD DAMMIT BARB

[@ArchShades]

LOL XD

[@ArchShades]

@@richkendall4882 I'm glad i came up with that Pun! XD

[@Nelotepes108]

Best pun 😁👍

[@thegayghost872]

Green eye shadow? Neo, honey, no

[@centurosproductions8827]

Yeah, that clashes so much.

[@Brutalyte616]

I think she has a soft-spot for mint. Maybe Roman liked that flavor?

[@jessequeen4550]

It's an homage to roman's green eyes

[@Brutalyte616]

@@jessequeen4550 ...Roman had green eyes? Never noticed. I was always too focused with his Clockwork Orange getup.

[@elianafloriani9133]

She always had green eye shadow...

[@whatcolorisyourwall]

I still go back to this fight scene up to now. Neo's always been my favorite character and her fighting style here was beautiful and elegant 💗

[@McNoob69420]

Neo’s umbrella has survived ember celica, missles, fireballs, punches, and many many many more whilst being intact

[@ThrowbackJTT]

What if she's just makes new ones off screen

[@McNoob69420]

@@ThrowbackJTT .........

[@ZephyrosPhoenix]

It only took 2+ years, but RWBY finally had me crying out in excitement!

[@midnightdagger21]

It seems like Neo has never seen Cinder use her maiden powers. She probably only knew just as much as Roman did, and followed Cinder's orders in the tournament because she knew it would end with him getting released.

[@Wizzkidwas]

Watching this again makes me want to see more Cinder's hand to hand combat, her fighting style is really interesting to watch

[@meterothecrow6270]

Her variety is a big part of why I love her.

[@yuukichan12]

Feral cat kung fu. She's actually one of the most op hand-to-hand fighters in the series. Same with weapons.

[@alexjd1278]

@@meterothecrow6270 right she's got duel wielding, arrows, single handed with whatever, and martial arts. PLUS her maiden powers.

[@BlueNumber77]

love her or hate her, cinder's fights are the best in the show. she's a good fierce fighter

[@user-hb4zz4gh5e]

100%

[@devinreis5811]

You know she has ovaries of steel when your boyfriend thinks she's a hot babe because of it.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

Except her fights with other maiden characters, those lean way too hard on the powers aspect rather than their actual fighting skills

[@7Blink2]

Neo should be in a fighting game

[@sambradley5140]

7 Blink Perhaps a DLC character in Blazeblue Cross Tag Battle

[@PKisaragi_]

Sam Bradley if she-by some magical force-gets in, she can’t have any interactions with characters. It’s a shame since it would be awesome for her to have an interaction with Yang or Rabbit.

[@EnchantedSymphony999]

SoulCalibur 6 is still fresh-ish, they add in Setsuka's style, and boom, hello Neo

[@narutoboy423]

Well guess what, if you like Blazblue Cross Tag Battle you got your wish

[@diegomt7901]

Wish Granted, you predicted the future

[@redclover8387]

Neo wouldve won, Cinder is still sloppy and she may be stronger but neo has better experience dealing with sronger foes. also I hope Cinder dies from Neo or Tyrian

[@aldoghazali1375]

Lol, Little Red Can Hold Her Own Against Roman And Neo By Herself.

[@KhaoticFrosty]

Cinder still hasn't recovered from her battle with Raven. We've seen in previous fights how precise she can be.

[@redclover8387]

@@KhaoticFrosty yep. besides, shes clearly a glass cannon

[@redclover8387]

@@aldoghazali1375 yeah she can!

[@tunderdiamant8651]

Cinder can wipe out Neo easily .. Man i love Neo but those fanboys are incredible...

[@Loispealz34]

The one time we get good hand to hand combat. Holy fuck. Neo is goated but so is cinder when shes not having a power hissy fit.

[@aveimperia4026]

The way Cinder says Neo's name at 0:14 is one of my favorite parts of this video. For once, the unshakable Cinder is bewildered and possibly afraid of Neo, and she has no preparation for what will happen.

[@scowlinsun]

This is the first fight where Neo's been hit. Got hit once by a upward kick from Cinder and again by a kick that laid her out on that table right before Cinder fire-punched the floor. She's gotten stronger sure, but Cinder is still a force to be reckoned with.

[@pisces6628]

Well actually, the Cinder was fighting a clone of Neo that entire time before they got outside. You can tell because the Neo that was shown outside had Roman's hat, damaged clothes, and a much more serious expression then she did in that den.

[@scowlinsun]

@@pisces6628 It's more than likely an illusion rather than a clone. Like, an illusory skin that makes her look unharmed. We have zero indication as to exactly what her semblance is. If it was cloning, there's no way she could keep it up that long. Sun can only make his clones last a handful of seconds, and his arent even exact copies, plus they can't talk or really do anything other than brief physical action.

[@georgesamarasful]

Someone actually admits that cinder is strong. Hallelujah

[@pisces6628]

@@scowlinsun Huh, you're right! My bad, but if that's the case then how exactly does her illusion "shatter" if it were just an illusion? I'm probably going to deep into these but curiosity!

[@scowlinsun]

@@pisces6628 Your curiosity is warranted, I don't think it's ever been clearly explained. Maybe one day. Until then, really either explanation could be true!

[@picassomarble5643]

"Maybe put away the good glasses" that line plus her accent was perfect ! XD Edit : oh wait I get a heart and 111 likes !!? Thanks !

[@roleemack1535]

@@rishabkrishnan4401 that was nami Holy funimation

[@Soxmember69]

Nagisa furukawa.

[@TheNukedNacho]

Now knowing Neo‘s backstory, I love her, One Thing, and this fight even more

[@EricBurns1]

After watching the volume 8 finale I can’t wait for round 2 between them

[@noobartist6009]

How did Cinder know Ruby and Roman fought at the end of vol3. She wasn't in any position to know that in vol 3 🤔

[@kumazein8943]

Noob Artist600 she's been watching secretly~~

[@noobartist6009]

@@kumazein8943 thats a whole lot of speculation with nothing to stand on. But at the end of the day its not that important anymore

[@SHSLRuby]

@@noobartist6009 I think Cinder easily figured out that Roman and Ruby had to have fought, because I think in Cinder's eyes, the only one who could've killed Torchwick is in fact, Ruby. Easy deduction to make. It's certainly not an inconsistency worth anything, anyways.

[@noobartist6009]

@@SHSLRuby But why Ruby? She wasn't even on Cinders radar until after she knew she had Silver eyes.

[@SHSLRuby]

@@noobartist6009 At the time, did anyone even pose a threat to Cinder besides maybe Pyrrha? It only makes sense that she would think Ruby would be the one to fight Torchwick (especially since she knows they have fought before).

[@floricel_112]

Ahhh, that final clash before maiden mode was sooo good. It's almost as good as Sun vs Torchwick. Those gun chucks were soo good! This is definitely my 2nd favorite rwby fight

[@ryanmacharika3946]

Neo's umbrella is probably made of black diamonds

[@landonglaxey3488]

I love how at the end she points at her mouth and cinder is like oh yeah she can't talk

[@gavincharles1327]

Ookay, I might give this show another chance now, maybe. Neo was pretty much a beast here, I'm proud and sad for her when I saw that hat. But Im still cringing when it comes to Cinder

[@angelnegron1043]

why did you ever stop, unloyal smh.

[@damobeck1]

Cinder is on the cusp of a character arc. Lets see where it leads.

[@kingraplhmativo5178]

@@damobeck1 Cinder probably end up dying like worse than Adam. More of like side street dog

[@TVHead003]

She’s as graceful as ever. She looked like she was dancing the whole time

[@secondpath5148]

I love Neo's Fighting style, redirecting the other person's energy from their swings and capitalizing on their openings. Badass. Also, anyone who can kick your ass with an UMBRELLA is a pretty nasty character.

[@shadowldrago]

I love the little details like them both actually stopping when the woman tells them to take this outside, Neo's illusion lacking the ripped legging, necklace or hat, Neo's VERY evident fear in the face of Cinder's Maiden powers, her blinking the eye flame away, and of course, her reminding Cinder that she's mute with a look, prompting just an (embarassed?) 'Right...' from Cinder. That last bit is honestly pretty damn funny.

[@kaiserblood6880]

Now if they only had an outside fighting arena with people watch and eating then it would be a dinner and a show

[@MushroomNCloud]

Cinder has a grudge on Ruby instead of Raven, the one who ACTUALLY defeated her? that doesn't make any sense! Yeah, i want Raven back

[@agenttex5973]

Same lowkey after the after credits scene of last Volume I was hoping for a scene of Taiyang and Raven talking or something

[@mxrwa7940]

@@agenttex5973 same though.

[@slumberingember]

When ruby first used her eyes on the dragon Grimm it hurt cinder as well. That's why she wants revenge on ruby

[@MushroomNCloud]

@@slumberingember I know but Cinder has yet to mention Raven in this volume. I'm also just hoping for Raven's return

[@joshuakim5240]

Well, Ruby did directly help cause Cinder to lose the fight against Raven due to damaging her enough beforehand to require Grimm-implants, which in turn let Raven much more easily damage her since she can't shield those Grimm parts with Aura.

[@ravenna6543]

If you took everyone's semblance away, Neo would be the strongest all around. She's OP bro.

[@anthonydeadman]

There's a reason she's an absolute favorite and belovedly adored more than any other character.

[@dreadrath]

Not quite the strongest in that scenario, I think top tier elites like Qrow, Raven and Tyrian could probably defeat her in CQC, albeit with considerable difficulty. But she'd certainly rank in the top 10 for sure, though there's quite a bit of stiff competition there. I don't think she's the untouchable combat goddess people make her out to be, but she is still extremely skilled and capable, especially for someone in her early 20s.

[@speedupslowdown358]

Neo would get dogged by crow raven and cinder

[@jackfrost8298]

Miss Malachite: “It’s time to take it outside!” Window: *chuckles* I’m in danger

[@sigma9269]

0:50 Can't be the only one who thought she looked cute here

[@brooklynreyes3135]

Omg you're not🤣

[@AveryScarlet]

Neo's a bit slower but this is definitely an improvement in animation

[@noox13]

It's an improvement in the fighting choreography. The animation has always gotten better with each volume. It was the fighting choreography that suffered and is now improving again.

[@Leox2_112]

The one actual good fight after Volume 3. Its not as tight well paced as Monty's but they kept Neo's style quite loyal to what Monty did and really showed how good of a fighter she is by going toe to toe against Cinder (aka Plot armor lady)

[@azunyan2266]

gotta agree with this

[@isseihyoudou2817]

It’s impressive that throughout the entire indoors fighting, there was nothing broken except the ashtray and the window

[@AskEndy]

actually, it wasnt rudy's fault it was the flying monsters that got him or rather eat him

[@elinacarmina3050]

Amy Louise Wilson It was Roman’s own fault for monologuing about how “unfair” the world is while surrounded by monsters who are attracted to negativity.

[@rexerator]

Its technically rubies fault. She opened neos umbrella leading to the situation that got roman killed. Even if it was fated to happen anyways, at least neo would have been there to help. Even if she couldn’t help then at least she would know theres no one to blame but cinder. But since ruby caused neo to fly away it was rubies fault or least in neos head it is.

[@hodzal5258]

Neo flew out before Roman was killed so she most likely assumes that Ruby killed him

[@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on]

who the hell is "Rudy"??😂😂😂😂✌✌✌✌

[@tableswithoutchairs1168]

I really liked Cinders hand combat style. It's the only time she uses it but it was still cool

[@maxinesteuer1959]

Who else came back here after reading Roman Holiday?

[@callmemim3007]

'HE'S A DUM - DUM BUT HE'S MY DUM - DUM" Neo , RWBY Chibi

[@Cloud-zb8lw]

I'm glad both my girls are alive.

[@jasonharris3502]

Good news for you. Bad news for Ruby. ;)

[@minecraftWithDanielD]

Roman Holiday really changes everything about this scene....

[@Plyergamer27]

i just realized that Neo stopped fighting for two reasons: 1. She has maiden powers and clearly overpowered her 2. She was using wind, the one thing that almost killed her while she was fighting Ruby and basically the enemy to her umbrella

[@Luis_Alvarez17]

Plot twist The singer in everyone background song is neo voice in her thoughts

[@mega2009man]

Ya know I don't believe she cares about Ruby at all, you're just assuming that Cinder

[@dustyfedora]

EternalDragonWarrior like I said just a little bit ago for all we know Neo probably doesn’t know that Ruby survived the airship

[@elinacarmina3050]

EternalDragonWarrior Ruby knocked her off an airship and was last seen fighting her boss before he died. Why WOULDN’T she want Ruby dead?

[@dustyfedora]

Elina Carmina Like you said she got blown off an Airship and didn’t see the rest of what happened

[@mega2009man]

It's the same with Cinder, she's assuming who killed him without actually knowing who, just blaming whoever she can...Cinder was just the most logical, he died serving her, even if Ruby was the last one with him, he was there because of Cinder...idk that's the best I can rationalize a mute who seems to have no sense in her head

[@mray4784]

People underestimate Cinder just because most of the fandom loves Neo as if she were a goddess.

[@msnavy97]

Lu k e cinder was literally not trying lok

[@billlupin8345]

@@msnavy97 No, her maiden powers and aura were weakened from getting bodied by Raven, she was trying pretty damn hard here.

[@secondpath5148]

Cinder's no slouch, She's the first character in the series to land actual solid hits on Neo, but Neo far outmatches her in terms of skill and fighting style. She was out of her element here without her Flame abilities. Even with weapons she still needed to use her maiden powers to force Neo to back down.

[@user-bj5ki6sr6c]

Are you questioning our divine savior?

[@RedEntity-eh6zl]

Exactly

[@isolatedanonymous1979]

I can’t believe this just happened 2 years ago... time really do flys

[@yangxiaolong7681]

100% if Cinder didn’t have maiden powers Neo would have killed her cause no one is gonna beat Neo in a sword fight

[@camillegene3194]

Raven since Neo did run away once she saw Raven appear.

[@haruhikari2424]

@@camillegene3194 I wouldn’t really call that fight since both Raven and Neo didn’t engage in a fight or didn’t lay hands on each other but she did run away

[@camillegene3194]

@@haruhikari2424 yea she ran away because the look on her face she was terrified of Raven, she knew she was way out of her league fighting wise so she ran.

[@haruhikari2424]

@@camillegene3194 Which is the only time I ever seen her runaway from an opponent

[@camillegene3194]

@@haruhikari2424 right so I think Raven is the strongest fighter in the series for sure