RWW191 One Step to Better Hand Sawing

[@carlson.douglas.w]

One again Shannon shows his uncanny ability to get straight to the heart of an issue i have struggled with, and offer simple, practical advice to correct the problem. By increasing my stance and stepping further back, i instantly corrected my tendency to drift left with my sawing. Thank you!

[@RenaissanceWW]

Awesome to hear...now don't forget it, LOL. Seriously I still find myself feeling the saw bind and I realize my stance has narrowed and I have to correct. So next bit of advice is "slow down"

[@carlson.douglas.w]

@@RenaissanceWW i shall saw like a sloth on Valium!

[@stevenmqcueen7576]

This video reminded me of things golf instructors tell you --a good swng starts with the correct grip and stance.

[@richardwaller9922]

Best woodwork teacher on the internet.

[@gregoriovii8746]

Thank, Lord!!!! I was getting down 'cos I 've been traying with a brand new saw and I alway cut the wood with an extrange angle that I don't expect but now thanks to you I have learned the very first lesson in woodworking. You know, I bought Makita, Bosch, Dewalt and Miwaukee equipment for the shop I'm gonna open but did not think about my hand sawing till I tried this evening at home. I was about to cry but now I feel hopeful because of you video. Tomorrow I'm gonna attack the wood the way you said, my friend. A hug from Argentina!!!!!

[@SuperSkinnymoose]

Hi from New Zealand. Never having had the benefit of formal tuition, sawing has been a constant source of frustration for me. I have produced every error you speak of - and many times over (just to show it's not a fluke)! I have even to resorted to power-tool cuts for the fiddliest of jobs, merely to be able to clamp a guide to work and get a passable result. After this I went out to my humble shop and grabbed some pallet wood and gave it a go. I tell you, no golf pro ever took the care I did as I shuffled and checked my feet, arm, wrist . . . well, you get the picture. Here's the thing, 26 cuts, different angles and thicknesses - all plumb, all straight - from the first try! But better than the strict outcome (straight cuts) is the way I felt just a little closer to be able to think of myself as a 54 year-old psuedo-carpenter. The ability to measure and mark well; the ability to make straight cuts is so fundamental that without these two, it's hard to take oneself seriously - even as a hobbyist. I'm indebted to you sir, and making my way through each of your 'basics' videos.

[@RenaissanceWW]

+SuperSkinnymoose This is so great to hear. Congratulations on the break through!

[@user-qv2gv5hu9p]

Great video, It really saved me from the saw hell! Thank your sir

[@TheHibener]

Body positon.... geez, simple but i never thought about it. Valuable advice, thank you

[@bobeddy8629]

Absolutely amazing! I'm getting ready for bed, putting my saw away, see a 2x3 and decide to practice. Check my stance sit the 2x3, unattached on a rather slick stool.. I eyeball my wrist, elbow and shoulder. Eyeball the wood and start sawing all the time watching my motion...Clunk - a piece of wood falls off. I check and the cut is perfectly flat and about a pencil with of being sqare and plumb!

[@jamesopell]

Excellent instruction on proper sawing technique.....Well done, Shannon.

[@IntentionalGains]

Very impressive Shannon! Thanks for sharing!

[@hspringsteen]

Shannon, I just received my Disston saws. I purchased a rip and cross cut saw from E-bay. I think I need to clean them up and make sure they are sharp and set up correctly. Then I can start my cutting practice. Thanks for the video.

[@TheShavingWoodWorkshop]

Very good analogy given about natural angles, great video.

[@mitchellhough2591]

wow, and you do that with your left hand, too. Excellent work. This confirms most of what I tell students. I still find it helpful when crosscutting to keep the eyes able to see both sides of the sawplate to insure squareness. The leg positioned back allows for a full stroke, not necessarily along the side of the body.

[@mooncabbagere]

One of your best videos IMO. And not just the improved picture quality. I particularly liked the analogy with Point of Aim, it really does make a lot of sense when you think about it like that. I'm going to have to try to be more accurate with my handsaw cuts now.

[@jimradz6583]

Best tip award -

[@johang1293]

Great stuff here, we need more of these type of videos to usher in the next generation and those new to hand tools.

[@randthor9344]

Shannon, one of my favorite vids that you've put out. Quality is perfect, and the 2-3 camera setup is awesome. Keep up the great work.

[@MightywoodNet]

You explained it really well. I will look at my stand the next time I handsaw something.

[@kendehaas668]

Thanks for the tips on body position. Makes a lot of sense, shows me what I have been doing wrong. I've had good success at times, but not constant results. I think that my body position was to blame. Looking forward to trying these techniques.

[@M4ngstergangster]

A bit like driving range instructions 😃 really nice and understandable advice.

[@joevandeventer883]

Good Video. Once I get my garage im going to binge watch/make your projects.

[@faustopereira259]

Thank you for the lesson. Very informative video. Also it's good to have lessons from a fellow left handed person.

[@RenaissanceWW]

Thank you Fausto, la sinistra is much more exciting eh? Tho I recommend you develop some ambidexterity as there are many operations where being able to switch hands is not only more efficient but often necessary.

[@andrewp.stewart4585]

Fausto Pereira ..

[@robinmarwick1982]

Thanks Shannon great video can't wait to try out your methods thanks again.

[@markharris5771]

Sounds to me good golfers make good sawers and visa versa. My trouble is when I well enough to play I never got below a 16 handicap! Thank you from a newbie.

[@tuffytoys9707]

Best Information i ever got on this subject. Thanks.

[@You-are-right-but]

Great video

[@TheInfamousButt]

Great video. Thanks for the tip

[@TheLoobis]

I found myself doing that naturally. Never thought about what I was doing.

[@saulsandoval2313]

True and simple. Thank You.

[@gdrwx1]

Thanks- you have an easy way with describing/showing physics, and common sense i guess. Makes me say-oh i do that-and yeah i should do that- i appreciate the video

[@1pcfred]

After watching this video I think I need to hug my Porter Cable circular saw.

[@ShannonRogers]

Make sure you turn it off first

[@1pcfred]

Shannon Rogers It has a blade guard, and a stiff trigger. But yeah, unless I am cutting with it I tend to keep them unplugged then.

[@TheJimsock]

I liken it to Assembly Line Robotics. The usually have a series of pivot points that sort of mimic human joints. All joints move on a circular path with the arcs consistently concentric to the axis (unless there are cams in place for specific applications). Some robots have "ball screws" that transfer rotary motion to linear motion that we could compare our forearms and immobilized wrists to. On to the "end-effector" or "tool" in our case being the saw. The robots' software mathematically arranges the "arcs" in time, speed and position such that all the arcs combine to produce a straight line at a prescribed angle to a plane. Even with all that computing power, the Robot still needs to spend time in "attended" operation at slow speed before it is adjusted mechanically and digitally sufficiently to accomplish precise repeatability. They ain't so "smart" after all. The craftsman must either instinctively (talent) or cognitively (training) become aware of all those arcs from the "base" to the "end-effector" to accomplish a straight line in the right place. Golf is much the same. Everything moves in an arc to provide a very short straight line that lasts for an instant or just under 400 Microseconds. The angle off plumb at impact is so complicated to manage, it's built into the club and you are only allowed 14 variations not the hundreds of thousands at the disposal of a robot. Managing the arcs begins at club set selection before the game even starts. Arc management can also be said of bowling. Although it has been tried, no robot has ever been constructed that can bowl a perfect game.......yet. In both cases of bowling and golf no one method works for everyone. The method must be developed. There's a word for that......practice? Hmmm...is word working a sport? Nah...I don't think so, I'm not losing any weight. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bovJmaChotNqZ6c

[@snteevveetns]

41k views, 56 comments?! You deserve better

[@RenaissanceWW]

ha ha well, more than a decade of doing content like this and KZbin still doesn't agree.

[@PrimalEdge]

awesome tips!! thanks for sharing

[@finn127]

Thank you very much!

[@matthewwatts7043]

Really great video!

[@HotWaxArgentina]

que lindo! igual solo quería aprender la forma natural de pronunciar sawing :D thanks

[@robertbrunston5406]

Good info.

[@watermain48]

Thanks.

[@betavulgaris7888]

Amazing

[@fatihsengul1898]

Thank you :)

[@kmonnier]

extreme!

[@thesultanmerchant]

how to cut 8' feet long and 3/4 inch thick plywood straight edge with hand saw?

[@RenaissanceWW]

if you check out the Kid's table and Chairs charity build I did last year (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ-UfGCqq56kqLs) you will see me doing this and the tips I used to get a clean cut.

[@TheLifeOfBCZ]

You mentioned using the reflection in the blade of the saw...can you elaborate?

[@RenaissanceWW]

Sure I've written about it on my blog before, but check out this Shop Update I did specifically at the 10:39 mark, kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZy8fZSZeLR0l9Em39s

[@RenaissanceWW]

You can also find a demonstration of the saw plate reflection here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amO1en-nh8esZ9Um13s

[@matzwoodland1665]

another left Hand top