Why THE BOY I & II are Still the Most Ridiculous "Evil Doll" Movies

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Ryan Hollinger

Жыл бұрын

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ABOUT THE SHOW:
This show celebrates Ryan's love for film, games, art and entertainment through personal retrospective analysis that aims to explore what made them so good.
MUSIC:
Falling Rain by Myuu
Sax Atta.ck by Dougie Wood
When Gods Pontificate by Dan Bodan
Hard To Let Go of Grammar by pATCHES
No.2 Remembering Her by Esther Abrami
Devil's Organ by Jimena Contreras
The Shining in Dubai by Unicorn Heads
Medieval Astrology by Underbelly & Ty Mayer
TIME STAMPS:
00:00 - Evil Doll Movies
05:00 - The Story
09:06 - From Spooky to Sad
10:48 - The Unexpected Plot Twist
13:13 - The Sequel's Twist is EVEN MORE Unexpected

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@RyanHollinger
@RyanHollinger Жыл бұрын
*Help me out... What is the BEST "Evil Doll/Robot/Uncanny Valley Monster Movie?!"* Go to www.buyraycon.com/ryan to get 15% off your order! Brought to you by Raycon.
@dmittleman9757
@dmittleman9757 Жыл бұрын
I Am Mother is interesting; a robot is assigned to protect the last of the human race and raise a little girl.
@axelcordova8262
@axelcordova8262 Жыл бұрын
How about a review of Megan?
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
If we are talking about dolls, I still think Chucky reigns supreme Any thoughts on the tv series?. I've Heard good reviews about that too
@solemnlament9757
@solemnlament9757 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan! Thanks for another great video! Just wondering if you've seen the survival horror series Yellowjackets? I really enjoyed it! Season 2 is coming in March on Paramount Plus in Ireland and UK! I love the mystery and horror aspects to the show and the cast is brilliant!
@anubusx
@anubusx Жыл бұрын
Deadly Friend.
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
The funniest part of 'The Boy' for me has been watching Brahms be turned into a Tumblr sexy man. Not even joking
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 Жыл бұрын
That boy doll participating the Tumblr sexyman contest? That's something that I never expected everyday.
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 Жыл бұрын
Not surprising given Tumblr users love turning serial killers (real or fictional) into hot, misunderstood guys who can be fixed by them (the users, who mostly are teenage girls)
@ConnorNotyerbidness
@ConnorNotyerbidness Жыл бұрын
.....why? Just why tumblr
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
@@ConnorNotyerbidness it's Tumblr that's why. They have a whole side where it's just nsfw or saucy fanart of villains of horror movies etc
@randallflagg3700
@randallflagg3700 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember when he was the Onceler, that was a weird week.
@maedhyne
@maedhyne Жыл бұрын
I watched 'The Boy' in cinemas with friends and my core memory around it is that when the plot twist scene happened, we were all gasping in shock and then going "why is he kinda hot tho?" lmao
@barbararab6390
@barbararab6390 Жыл бұрын
honestly i relate, wtf is wrong with me
@ragingdevi
@ragingdevi Жыл бұрын
A small subset of reactions like, "😲😲😲.............👀👀👀"
@sugarmelon7898
@sugarmelon7898 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought
@bad_ro1751
@bad_ro1751 Жыл бұрын
Of course you did
@gregtronica3569
@gregtronica3569 Жыл бұрын
woman moment
@angellane1848
@angellane1848 Жыл бұрын
the way i had a massive crush on human brahms as a 15 year old….if that isn’t the worst case of “i can fix him” i don’t know what is
@EventideBlackFox
@EventideBlackFox Жыл бұрын
7 year old me and William Afton
@sanna9062
@sanna9062 Жыл бұрын
Wtf
@pootisengage6672
@pootisengage6672 Жыл бұрын
Ew
@aburamegirl8267
@aburamegirl8267 Жыл бұрын
Sameeee
@angellane1848
@angellane1848 Жыл бұрын
@@EventideBlackFox girl same 😭 wtf
@kataddy
@kataddy Жыл бұрын
There is NOTHING I love more than a ‘there’s a guy in the walls’ movie
@nerdfatha
@nerdfatha Жыл бұрын
I think my favorite is the wonderfully campy The People Under the Stairs.
@aReallySwellGuy
@aReallySwellGuy Жыл бұрын
@@nerdfatha I was here to say that. The guy who played Roach is playing the hitchhiker in the upcoming Texas Chainsaw game!!
@voidstrider801
@voidstrider801 Жыл бұрын
"Their in the goddamn walls!"
@Marigoldpyre
@Marigoldpyre Жыл бұрын
*"But in the end... boy in the wall!"*
@onewomanarmy6451
@onewomanarmy6451 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! It just makes my heart flutter in a happy sort of way for some reason.
@ReiSilver
@ReiSilver Жыл бұрын
The twist in the first one got me so bad it made me love the film. To the point I figured that any sequel would either be about Real Braums OR go back on what I liked about the original by making the doll supernatural. Because the twist in the first got me so bad because due to the conceit of it being a horror movie it didn't cross my mind that the doll wouldn't be possessed, so when Real Braums is revealed it was like reality smacking you in the face. Magic dolls aren't real, of course they're not, but creepy controlling sadists? Yeah they're real.
@RightsForZombies
@RightsForZombies Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my husband and I were really disappointed that they made it an actual supernatural doll story. Brahms straight up survives The Boy so there was no reason for him to not be in the movie. Just age him up somewhat and make it so that the groundskeeper suspects Brahms is still there by doesn't know for sure to give it some ambiguity. I guess there wouldn't have been a twist for people who had seen the first movie but if you're going to make the twist so weak don't make it at all. It seemed very silly to have a supernatural doll in a universe where people expected it but had that expectation completely turned on its head when the doll wasn't supernatural at all. To be fair it took me to the point of them discussing real Brahms in the graveyard scene in the first to go 'oh, okay, he's definitely still alive so the doll can't be haunted', so it wasn't much of a twist in The Boy, but it was still a lot of fun because it subverted expectations.
@willypilly9436
@willypilly9436 Жыл бұрын
Yes that made me respect the first film but when I found out about the second movie I knew it was gonna fuck over the twist in the original
@Rodent588
@Rodent588 Жыл бұрын
I did enjoy the first movie for what it was. I'll admit that it have me a good chuckle when Brahms is revealed. As to how the doll moved around, I just assumed he had like secret passageways all over the house or something like that. I never watched the second one simply because making it that possessed demon thing kinda felt like a cop-out and took away from the first movie.
@JohnDoe-hj9fh
@JohnDoe-hj9fh Жыл бұрын
They show the secret tunnels in the movie?
@Shadowcthuhlu
@Shadowcthuhlu Жыл бұрын
So for the first movie, my husband discussed how Brahms would be screwed if it was one of us...because once we decided the doll was possessed we would take it to see the world. (Come on of course a ghost of a kid wants to see all the neat stuff out there)
@teddybearkiller5271
@teddybearkiller5271 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadowcthuhlu Great now I want to see that movie!! A film where they find out that doll is possessed by little kid but instead of destroying it because evil, they go on a road trip cross-country and give the kid experiences he never got in life.
@britaingray5400
@britaingray5400 Жыл бұрын
@@teddybearkiller5271 i think I saw a comic about someone who found a possessed doll and treated it really nicely, so the ghost turned nice and they become friends
@Shadowcthuhlu
@Shadowcthuhlu Жыл бұрын
@@teddybearkiller5271 just came up with the title "And possessed doll makes three."
@EdieBird
@EdieBird Жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoyed "The Boy" simply because it is TOO easy to make the doll haunted. At least, that's what my antique dolls tell me. Then the sequel wrecked my brain. I liked that the doll actually made the right sound when moved. Porcelain SCRAPES. It's an ugly sound, similar to fingernails on a chalkboard. really gets under my skin, which is why all my antiques are composition, and not one lone porcelain in the lot. A very small part of my problem with the Annabelle movies is that you can't tell WHAT she's made of. There's no scrape of porcelain. There's no dull clunking of composition (which is what she LOOKS like). There's no plastic sound. Her dress doesn't even rustle, and that thing absolutely WOULD rustle. (I could get into the REST of my issues with Annabelle but I don't have a week to spare)
@ghostlygena
@ghostlygena Жыл бұрын
I feel like the annabelle doll has to be made out of wood right???? like that weird texture she has? thats the only idea I have lol
@BladedEdge123
@BladedEdge123 Жыл бұрын
If it helps just imagine she's made of the worst possible material, cgi. A material with no soul if you will. Which now that I say it is actually fitting for a haunted doll but I was just making a joke.
@the-berries-and-cream-dude
@the-berries-and-cream-dude Жыл бұрын
i love this. i never actually thought of the noise a doll would make when they move, it's a really good take. I will now always judge doll movies based on this comment.
@reganv.8309
@reganv.8309 Жыл бұрын
Doll lovers know best 😂😂
@wildfirefox1
@wildfirefox1 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the most likely reason Annabelle makes no noise is she may simply be engineered to look wooden and heavy but she's probably made out of a material designed to be more quiet so the noises aren't picked up by set mics.
@SLAUGHTERAMA
@SLAUGHTERAMA Жыл бұрын
I maintain that the first “The Boy” is legitimately good while the second is… well, it’s the second movie. Also, if you’re up to punish yourself with some mediocre killer doll camp, do a Puppet Master retrospective.
@panonymousbloom5405
@panonymousbloom5405 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's good but the script is surprisingly solid and could really become something amazing with some polishing. Like, what would a woman stay with a creepy possessed doll? She lost her own pregnancy and now feels a connection with an abandoned kid. Then it turns out it's a grown man trying to manipulate her all along. It's such a creepy and heartbreaking concept. And the fact that despite the fact that Brahms lives his life as a "doll", it's really people around him living in a dollhouse of his own making. Again, cool af. I personally wish it would focus less on the jumpscares/possession aspect and more on psychological horror and character drama. Just feels like it would be way more effective and just better fit for the story.
@breeban3388
@breeban3388 Жыл бұрын
Love to hear Ryan’s take on the puppet master series
@JohnDoe-hj9fh
@JohnDoe-hj9fh Жыл бұрын
​@@panonymousbloom5405I think it focusing on the jump scares and more cheesy generic horror tropes was intentional. That's what made the twist so good to me because the movie up until that point felt like I knew exactly what would happen
@snorpenbass4196
@snorpenbass4196 Жыл бұрын
The very concept of Annabelle just made me roll my eyes. Like...why would anyone take home a doll that looks like that? If they at least did it _because_ it was ugly, sure, but they're always like "Oh, it's soo pretty!" and I just...wot.
@distraughtlesbian
@distraughtlesbian Жыл бұрын
the idea of bringing the annabelle doll home because it's so creepy and ugly is actually endearing--it'd be a testament to the extreme empathy of whoever did so. i'd actually be inclined to care about a character like that.
@ghostlygena
@ghostlygena Жыл бұрын
making the annabelle doll look like that is a choice I will never understand. the real life version is a raggedy ann doll and it being an actually innocent looking and cute doll is far scarier than that ugly thing they made for the movies
@advancedstupidity5459
@advancedstupidity5459 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostlygena I think they designed it for The Conjuring not thinking they would make a whole film about the doll itself and once they decided to they had to go all in for the sake of continuity.
@deanolium
@deanolium Жыл бұрын
To me it just seems like horror designed for people who don't particularly like horror, so it goes with as many stereotypes people have about horror films. Incredibly schlocky and overly serious despite being inherently campy. If they went with the raggedy ann doll look and had it done as a serious film (think The Changeling) then it could have been scary in a psychological way. But nope - it must have jump scares, green colour tinting, and the doll look generically 'scary'. Just so dull. Though it does make money
@Lawrence_Talbot
@Lawrence_Talbot Жыл бұрын
I think the point was to make it look like real porcelain dolls from an older time period. If you look up toys especially dolls from the 1800s and early 1900s, they look pretty scary. Porcelain dolls especially looked so creepy because of how they tried to make them look realistic. Heck it’s only in the last few decades that manufactures have figured out how to make porcelain dolls not look possessed. The doll in the movie was made in the 30s and go look up what porcelain dolls looked like back then. Back then, people didn’t see them as scary looking but rather very modern for looking so real/human like. And follow the timeline to 1970s of the Annabelle movie and it’s no surprise someone who collects dolls her whole life would want a very rare doll from a very esteemed doll creator, regardless of how creepy it looks.
@lazarus6508
@lazarus6508 Жыл бұрын
Contrary to how it’s marketed M3gan isn’t really a “campy” movie. It definitely leans into the absurdity of its premise BUT there’s a LOT of thematic richness and genuine depth to stop it from becoming full parody. It’s actually surprisingly well-written.
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t go anywhere too different with the super powered protector nor killer doll movies, but, for the factors working against it (being a PG-13 thriller in January), the fact that it’s just competent and has a strong internal continuity and well acted is perfectly serviceable. It’s one of those movies where if you’ve seen loads of horror and thriller movies and looking for something fresh and unique, it’s not gonna be what you’re looking for, but for some 14yo looking to get into horror this is a great place to start.
@Scarshadow666
@Scarshadow666 Жыл бұрын
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy Definitely true! It's also great for audiences who just watch movies for fun, rather than for if it's award-winning/critically-acclaimed or just because it's super popular among audiences in general.
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Жыл бұрын
Well written? What?!? The lead actress is a psychopath about her project, even after realizing it’s got problems. Why’d she not want the child going to the grandparents? They don’t mention why, except her sister said to take care of her, but that doesn’t mean, “You my sister are to adopt my child if we die!” It’s all about setting up scenes to have the robot do insane things, and the people are just terrible stereotypes. The few scenes, that try to get into discussions, about the trauma the young girl is suffering, are made hollow within minutes. It’s camp. The entire idea of such a robot, would immediately be taken over by military interests. It’s a campy take on other Frankenstein stories, and whether they were trying to put the traumatic elements in there too, it failed in my opinion. The high rotten tomatoes score isn’t because the movie was deep. Read the reviews. If you got all of that out of this movie, I can hardly imagine you watching something like Ex Machina, and what you took from it. M3GAN uses tropes and scenes they knew would be instant memes, instead of just writing a great script. I laughed throughout the entire thing. This is of course opinion, which is why I wonder how you’d react to real gravitas in a film, with actual verisimilitude.
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Жыл бұрын
@@Scarshadow666 But, it’s been panned by general audiences. It’s actually the critics that gave M3GAN a high score. This is the illusion of rotten tomatoes being a good movie review site.
@HarperNguyen
@HarperNguyen Жыл бұрын
Bro it’s pretty campy
@TH3F4LC0Nx
@TH3F4LC0Nx Жыл бұрын
"The Boy" is the most inspired title for a movie I've ever seen.
@fiendishlybilly
@fiendishlybilly Жыл бұрын
There was a real case about two daughters being "haunted" by one of the girls' ex-boyfriend. He played off their grief from the passing of their dead Mother. A real charmer. I hope the daughters and father got help and somehow got through.
@markrothenbuhler6232
@markrothenbuhler6232 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a horror movie killer doll, I always think of the Simpson Halloween Special that showed you have have doll switched to evil!
@RyanHollinger
@RyanHollinger Жыл бұрын
THAT'S GOOD!
@coyoteclockworkstudios3140
@coyoteclockworkstudios3140 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanHollinger "The toppings contain potassium benzoate."
@guybrushmonkey97
@guybrushmonkey97 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this what happens in the Child's Play reboot?
@carrissasky5635
@carrissasky5635 Жыл бұрын
@@coyoteclockworkstudios3140 "..."
@belindaluna2067
@belindaluna2067 Жыл бұрын
@@coyoteclockworkstudios3140 "....."
@williamhanekom9882
@williamhanekom9882 Жыл бұрын
I find a lot of killer doll movies tend to fall into the same trap of making the doll "look" as uncanny as possible. It's very much the problem I have with the Annabelle movies, considering that the IRL doll it was based on was a seemlingless harmless raggedy ann plush. I personally would like to see a genre savvy killer doll movie in which the doll appears cute and harmless but is extremely abhorrent in its actions, like it can do the worst things imaginable and realistically get away with it. Better yet, make sure non of the human characters even suspect it. That would be a lot more disturbing and frightening imo.
@wickedlittletongue
@wickedlittletongue Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the Boy! The scene where the guy comes out of the wall really stuck with me because of the way it was executed. Like it took me a minute to process what I was seeing.
@nu-metalfan2654
@nu-metalfan2654 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the first movie as it was different from your usual evil doll movie, the fact that it wasn’t supernatural made for a nice change. They could’ve easily made The Boy as just Annabelle 2.0, but the fact that it had nothing to do with anything supernatural made it much more enjoyable. I haven’t seen the sequel as it got bad reviews.
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Жыл бұрын
I cannot get over how the sequel COMPLETELY retcons what Brahms is.
@kiradattei
@kiradattei Жыл бұрын
This is the closest I will come to watching the second movie 😂. The whole "there was nothing supernatural" thing was my favorite part of the first movie so when I heard they'd retconned that with the second, I lost all interest in watching it. Seeing the bulletpoints of the plot here, I'm even more glad I haven't watched it. I would love to see a review on Stay Alive. The unrated version especially is a guilty pleasure movie for me 🙂. Here's hoping you manage to find a copy 🤞. I remember it actually being one I had trouble finding on DVD here in the US. I would also love to see a review of The Houses October Built and its sequel.
@joshhale9355
@joshhale9355 Жыл бұрын
I know you don’t cover tiktok movies often, but holy shit Skinamarink is one of the most uncomfortable (in a good way) movies I’ve ever seen. I just saw it a few days ago and I think I left indentions on my arm rests. I’m really glad artsy/experimental horror is getting popular because I love that stuff so much.
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja Жыл бұрын
The hell is a tiktok movie?
@lrts1lrts181
@lrts1lrts181 Жыл бұрын
@@viljamtheninja the movies tiktokers describe as "the scariest movie they have ever seen" "viewers were so scared that they couldn't finish it" "you won't be able to sleep for a week" etc etc.
@Griffenheimer
@Griffenheimer Жыл бұрын
Was hoping Ryan would watch this movie, saw it a few days ago and it left me feeling afraid unlike any other horror I’ve watched
@davismorgan99
@davismorgan99 Жыл бұрын
I saw in theaters with my wife on Saturday and I have never been more terrified while watching a movie. I could completely unsderstand the people who don’t care for it or think it isn’t scary at all, but I was so freaked out the entire time. It’s the only movie I’ve ever watched where I wanted it to end just because I was THAT scared.
@joshhale9355
@joshhale9355 Жыл бұрын
@@davismorgan99 it plays on a massive irrational fear I have which is staring into complete darkness and your imagination running too wild. I’ll be alone in my house, pitch black down the hallway and just think “what if though…”. It actually made me squirm more than any gory movie has,
@Jedi_Proxy
@Jedi_Proxy Жыл бұрын
I know it's not the topic of the video, but seeing you mention Stay Alive made me ECSTATIC. I found a dvd copy of the uncut version online after not seeing it for YEARS and it's still an absolute top favorite guilty pleasure of mine. Would be thrilled to send it to you to review if you promise to give it back lmao 🥴
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever Жыл бұрын
Same here. Have a Region 2 Unrated Cut on DVD & watch it around Halloween every year
@infernus1338
@infernus1338 Жыл бұрын
Yeah same here :D in Poland dvd copy’s of this movie cost 1$ so be my guest ❤
@RightsForZombies
@RightsForZombies Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, yes. You should definitely contact Ryan privately and ask if he'd accept your offer, it's such a amazing guilty pleasure watch, especially if you happen to be a survival horror gaming fanatic. I'm a huge Silent Hill fan, so when they give the gibberish about how to beat the final boss in 4 it made me fangirl so hard because before the SH movie was released (also in 2006) Silent Hill wasn't well-known outside of the survival horror fandom. Silent Hill had been my favourite game series since 2003 and I was ecstatic to hear it name-dropped. I could tell they actually knew the series, because even though the strategy they gave isn't correct for SH4, ammo dumping is a secret way to insta-kill the final boss of SH1 and the hyper beam seems to be a mashup of the unlockable hyper spray weapons from SH2 and the unlockable beam sabre/Heather beam/sexy beam from SH3. If it had come out a year later I would have thought they just name-dropped it because the film did well, but even though Silent Hill had been in development since 2004, Stay Alive was released several weeks before the Silent Hill film released. I think the reason they gave easter egg gibberish as the strategy for beating SH4 was simply because it was the newest game at the time so they didn't want to spoil it. After that the size of the SH fandom basically exploded over the span of a couple of weeks. On my SH forum we appointed new mods just to cope with all the questions coming in from new fans and after that point it became widely-known about. But it's hard to put into words how much this film endeared itself to me for not just mentioning my favourite game series at a time when it had a relatively small and insular fanbase, but that the writers were clearly fans too.
@academy_killer
@academy_killer Жыл бұрын
I watched that movie with my friend when I was like 12 and it was the scariest thing we've ever seen back then. Come to think about it now, it was a little silly, but it was still really good in a way lol.
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever Жыл бұрын
@@academy_killer It was the first VR/Game horror type movie we’d gotten - outside Lawnmower Man - and would love to see something along the lines of it again someday. The acting was good & Elizabeth Bathory was truly a sick individual.
@anaalicia5029
@anaalicia5029 Жыл бұрын
I’d love for you to do a video on the Orphan movies. The first one was actually very well done, much more than campy horror and the second one managed to do a great twist, being a prequel, and I just loved it.
@TheUnmitigatedDawn
@TheUnmitigatedDawn Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Magic (1978). Easily the best written "Evil Doll" movie ever made.
@drewgoin8849
@drewgoin8849 Жыл бұрын
Truly an unsettling movie!
@catscanhavelittleasalami
@catscanhavelittleasalami Жыл бұрын
yeah that movie was.... something
@izzysauls7737
@izzysauls7737 Жыл бұрын
The boy was one of the first horror movies I watched (super conservative parents) The Boy was so fun and the twist was genuinely one I couldn’t predict. Please do consider giving Megan a review. It was so fun and you could tell the writers and directors loved what they were doing
@wowitsladyakumu
@wowitsladyakumu Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the first "Boy." In fact, I rewatched it recently and liked it even more than the first time I saw it (in theaters). Brahams encapsules a manipulative man. He seems sweet and innocent at first -- as though all he needs is a little love -- but it's all just a game and he's revealed as a psychopathic creep.
@RightsForZombies
@RightsForZombies Жыл бұрын
I made my husband watch The Boy, which I had seen a few times before, and although he thought it was hilarious he immediately said 'well that will never get a sequel'. Cut to about a year later and we learn Brahms: The Boy 2 was being released. We were two of I think 4 people in the theatre, which was still exactly two more people than we expected. I have loved the evil doll subgenre since I saw Puppet Master in the late nineties but I can't stand Annabelle. Recently we named one of our pet rats Brahms (after the movies), but he unexpectedly passed away at a very young age. We managed to get one of his brothers from another litter who looked very much like him and although his name is Bear, we affectionately call him Brahms: The Boy 2 sometimes. I have to disagree a bit with Ryan about seeing the twist coming. In the scene (which he shows a still from) in the graveyard where they talk about the real Brahms, I immediately thought 'he's totally going to be alive so I guess the doll isn't haunted'. HOYEVER, I definitely wasn't expecting the living-in-the-walls-as-a-grown-ass-man-with-a-baby-voice aspect of it!
@elsaekberg5616
@elsaekberg5616 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE The Boy. It is one of my favorite horror movies of all time and it’s because every single plot point gets a follow up. Every little detail is important and serves a purpose
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
Omg. I remember watching Stay Alive once as it was showing on one tv channel. It's such a weird and random movie. The premise is wild but the movie was just so weird.
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy it. The Unrated version makes it a decent bit better
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
@@FigmentForever i saw it as a child so i barely remember it tbh. I need to rewatch it soon. The premise was fun
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever Жыл бұрын
@@iusedtowrite6667 It’s not on any streaming service but I’d happy to provide a link to watch if you comment on one of my videos so I can leave you a reply
@Mapletheleafeater
@Mapletheleafeater Жыл бұрын
I saw this movie when I was in like 3-4th grade, and even then, I could kinda tell where the twist was going. The miscarriage stuff went over my head, but when the old couple unalives themselves I could see a twist coming. I just didn’t know it’d be this batshit insane.
@polrua
@polrua Жыл бұрын
One thing in 'Orphan: First Kill's favour is the presence if Hiro Kanegawa. He's an excellent character actor, and I love seeing him draw a paycheque.
@rachaelbeth3119
@rachaelbeth3119 Жыл бұрын
hello ryan! thank you for giving us these videos as I adore them so much, ive probably watched your stuff at least twice per video if not more I hope you have a great and relaxing year (gonna say day but like... god we all need it to be a year) and you live a long healthy life now time for a great video!
@lavernebennet7395
@lavernebennet7395 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of that Sabrina movie used in the intro B-roll, but wow that's honestly a pretty impressive "creepy doll" design? Just in terms of how it strikes that balance between "actually freaky to look at" and "creepy in a subtle enough way that you could imagine it being an actual vintage doll"
@_foxpuppet
@_foxpuppet Жыл бұрын
I actually like dolls. Even if they're creepy, that just adds to the charm for me. This means I've had a lot of people express very emphatically to me that dolls are inherently horrific and terrifying and that I am psychotic for not seeing it. So, for a lot of people, dolls are just genuinely scary, and that's why even if everything surrounding the doll is completely ridiculous, because that fear is already there in certain viewers, the overall effect is still scary for them. I think that's how this subgenre survives in the face of not particularly good movies.
@gamelairtim
@gamelairtim Жыл бұрын
Orphan: First Kill? Yes, please. Also I don’t know whether you would enjoy M3gan, but I think you’d be amused by it.
@jazzminforrestall406
@jazzminforrestall406 Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Megan yet, but from the trailers I like the angle where it combines evil doll and evil AI. I think we should get more evil AI movies.
@afish4086
@afish4086 Жыл бұрын
After I watched the Boy for the first time, my boyfriend turned to me and said "that was just a modern Phantom of the Opera". And I can't unsee it. And in a lot of ways, it could be considered a perfect modern Phantom of the Opera adaptation, because it actually manages to keep the original vibes of the plot twist "oh hey it was just a dude the whole time" in ways that any other PotO adaptation hasn't been able to yet.
@hulkjon6094
@hulkjon6094 Жыл бұрын
I think the 1st The Boy movie was good and I thought the twist was good and actually shocking, because you expect an evil doll but it's actually a human inside the walls, I think it's a great twist and set up. The 2nd film doesn't exist, never was made, never ruined the greatness of the 1st film, it does not exist and I can't be told otherwise
@advancedstupidity5459
@advancedstupidity5459 Жыл бұрын
Watching the first movie is worth it because the reveal that Braums is in the walls is so well executed. It's genuinely shocking and impressive until you realize it makes absolutely no sense at all, but for 5-10 seconds you think you're watching the greatest twist of all time unfold. It's really too bad because if they had restructured the story a bit it could've been really special. I skipped the sequel because, duh.
@erictungoe7834
@erictungoe7834 Жыл бұрын
The plot twist was fresh to me at least🙏
@ElephantFilmWerks
@ElephantFilmWerks Жыл бұрын
The Orphan prequel just works. There's no explaining why it should work, but it just does.
@joca_sol
@joca_sol Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see something about the new orphan, even it's not as good as they're saying. And have you seen the new Terrifier?
@dennett316
@dennett316 Жыл бұрын
The Boy was a perfectly acceptable haunted doll story up until that twist. I still remember that cinema experience, as the reveal happens and most of the audience we were watching with started laughing their asses off. I couldn't help it either. Picturing this giant deformed psycho stealthily creeping around the house, repositioning the doll, taking the food and scurrying back to the crawlspace like a giant masked dormouse, it was too much. The goofiest, funniest, most film ruining twist to any horror movie I've seen. Best comedy of 2016!
@kassandra7313
@kassandra7313 Жыл бұрын
I remember being geniunely shocked by the plot twist in the Boy, then shortly afterwards laughing because the chase scene made me think about Scooby Doo so I think you're right on the money there lmao
@JohnDoe-hj9fh
@JohnDoe-hj9fh Жыл бұрын
I really did not enjoy the first movie because of how generic it felt up until the twist which made me change my mind and I now love the film. I've never been able to enjoy ghost or evil doll movies simply because I know for a fact that they aren't real so the reveal made me actually really enjoy the movie
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin Жыл бұрын
I really like the first film (didn't see the second). I love that I didn't expect the twist at the end. Personally, I think they did a great job with tone, mystery, tension, etc.
@RainBowSasaFras
@RainBowSasaFras Жыл бұрын
I was actually a huge fan of the first film when my best friend and I went to see it in theaters. I remember thinking it was just ok until the tone shift when the main character's backstory gets revealed and she actually starts caring for Brahms. My friend and I actually started to get emotionally attached to doll Brahms, So when he gets smashed we both gasped in horror. And when the real Brahms busted threw we where thrown for an even bigger loop. Because I was fully bamboozled into thinking he actually was the spirit of a little boy and felt emotionally invested in him like the main character was I felt disgusted and betrayed right along with her when the "Chosen bride" twist was revealed. It made for such a unique move experience.
@simonantonehie6392
@simonantonehie6392 Жыл бұрын
I was so upset when I saw the boy, I was exited to see what seemed to be a story about a doll that isn't actually alive but the caretaker was slowly going mad. I remember my friend being so shocked by the twist and then from the walk from the cinema to the bus stop she changed from 'what an amazing twist' to 'but that doesn't make sense'
@peblezQ
@peblezQ Жыл бұрын
I love the first movie solely for the cinema experience. Everyone in my theatre had the funniest reactions the entire movie and my sister and I had a blast. She hates Horror and especially doll movies, but everyone collectively making fun of the movie made it her favourite horror.
@FFXemnas
@FFXemnas Жыл бұрын
Since you are on the topic, you absolutly must cover "Stay Alive", its such a good movie! :)
@You-Tube-n5k
@You-Tube-n5k Жыл бұрын
This is my first time doing something like this, but while I was thinking about traditional horror movie things like creepy dolls, I randomly remembered a creepy clown movie just called "Clown" in 2014." This is completely off topic, but I have yet to see anyone really talk about it. Just a shameless recommendation for a movie that I don't know too much about.
@Ariye
@Ariye Жыл бұрын
The best part about The Boy is the fact that the mask the "real" Brahms wears is CGI. It was done after filming since the screeners said the actor wasn't scary looking. (Edit: I can't spell today lol)
@bleakautomaton4808
@bleakautomaton4808 Жыл бұрын
Can believe it
@ariannasilva4462
@ariannasilva4462 Жыл бұрын
Huh. Not bad CGI.
@teddybearkiller5271
@teddybearkiller5271 Жыл бұрын
I understand why they did it because the actor is more hot than scary, but my God I thought that was an actual physical mask!!!! 😯 That thing was CGI the whole time???!! I've seen this film multiple times and never knew!!!!!!
@strawberrybaz
@strawberrybaz Жыл бұрын
That's a nice fun fact, I didn't know that at all
@strawberrybaz
@strawberrybaz Жыл бұрын
That's a nice fun fact, I didn't know that at all
@ilovemarvelstudios1569
@ilovemarvelstudios1569 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that clip of the kid drawing with the closed sharpie? comedy gold
@LifeInPink999
@LifeInPink999 Жыл бұрын
12:21 😅 I kinda knew where it was all going when the supposed haunted doll requested food and even eat it given that it disappeared. I didn’t know that it was an adult men fruit of an extreme bad parenting was living in the walls but I was sure that the doll was not haunted and that someone pretty much alive was messing with the girl. I think it made the movie more interesting, I was curious who was messing with the lady and why. I fist suspected the man who delivered food (maybe it was his hobby or he just liked to mess with that family) but then when it made noise while he was with her I knew it was not him or someone else was involved with him and I kinda kept distrusting him till the “boy” walked from the walls.
@BloodylocksBathory
@BloodylocksBathory Жыл бұрын
The thing that made me laugh about the first film was that test audiences had nearly the opposite reaction when Brahms revealed himself, saying Brahms as this big muscular fuzzy guy wasn't that scary. Cue the mask, which was impressive for last minute CGI. So Brahms basically had to be nerfed in order to be more threatening.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 Жыл бұрын
The whole "Brahms living in the walls" thing felt like it was ripping off Billy and Agnes living in the loft in the bad 2006 Black Christmas remake.
@lolrentz
@lolrentz Жыл бұрын
Saw m3gan last night and I enjoyed it. She's not a doll, she's a robot. Evil doll and Killer Robot are two different genres to me, personally. M3gan is about technology and people trying to replicate a consciousness with it, as well as how children can view technology as a primary caregiver if their parents aren't in their lives. No supernatural aspect and no 'it was actually a human!' twist either.
@breezus3928
@breezus3928 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, M3gan was less Chuckie, more "If Arnie in T2 decided Sarah Connor wasn't pulling her weight as a caretaker" lol
@sakurafan771
@sakurafan771 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with this. My friend said they didn't want to watch it cause they thought it might be an 'evil doll' movie but I explained to them(without spoilers) that the story isn't really about an evil doll. They ended up actually liking it but if I haven't told them they would have never watched it.
@abbym9954
@abbym9954 Жыл бұрын
The original The Boy frustrated the heck out of me through the entire first half. Why would you specifically take on the job, knowing from the time you get there that the job was to maintain this routine and take care of a doll, only to refuse to do ANYTHING with it until you think it's haunted? If you don't want to do the job, don't take it!
@mterry7377
@mterry7377 Жыл бұрын
I feel Ryan needs to cover "heck", the concept movie that was made by the guy who made skinamarink and later was what inspired him to make skinamarink. I think he would have some interesting takes on the movie.
@ironsevs
@ironsevs Жыл бұрын
The Boy (and the writer's other works as well) have a lot of interesting ideas but they just feel so jammed together like a puzzle where someone forced the pieces together.
@barnabykane4515
@barnabykane4515 Жыл бұрын
I'm at 3:06 right now. Yes, you should cover Orphan: First Kill. The "twist" in that movie is about a hundred times better than either of "The Boy" films.
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
Some evil doll movies need a bottle of whiskey for the best viewing experience. - Trust me speaking from experience
@tinyetoile5503
@tinyetoile5503 Жыл бұрын
The Orphan was actually one of the first horror movies I ever watched (or rather, watched on purpose) so I'd definitely watch a video about it and its prequel, though I haven't seen the latter
@MeonLights
@MeonLights Жыл бұрын
I know Ryan is gonna tell me to go fuck myself (which is fine) but I did actually call the twist in the story. Mostly because it weirdly reminded me of "Anna in der Wand" which is an absurdist coming of age story about a girl who always gets overlooked to the point where a school councellor who is supposed to help her come out of her shell believes that Anna is just her little sister's doll and at one point accidentally kidnaps her by putting her in her purse. Anna at some point moves into the spaces between the walls of her home and both her mother and her older sister basically gaslight themselves into believing she was never real. It isn't like this movie at all but the thing with the doll tipped me off about the whole "the killer is in the house" and the weird crawlspaces some houses seem to have... (same with Encanto tbh. I cannot get behind it all our walls here are brick)
@augustthepineapple
@augustthepineapple Жыл бұрын
I'm also not a creepy doll movie guy, but I am a killer robot movie guy and M3GAN is nice blend of both. It surprisingly has a lot of heart.
@Caeljharden
@Caeljharden Жыл бұрын
M3GAN shocked me to be honest. I wasn’t expecting much but ended up loving it. I’ve seen it 3 times now and can’t wait for a sequel
@abigaileldritch
@abigaileldritch Жыл бұрын
Stay alive is a movie I remember watching as a child that I never got to finish. I finally finished it last night! So worth the wait of 10+ years. I found it online. I hope you review it!!
@Mothworx
@Mothworx 3 ай бұрын
I’ll always remember the way this movie made me feel above any flaws it had. The transition between discomfort at a new environment to feeling a kinship with this seemingly-tragic little boy that brings Greta some genuine comfort after all that’s happened to her, to the batshit twist (and catharsis of abusers dying) it really just took me on a ride. Looking back on it, I can see the cracks, but I’m very glad I didn’t come to it with a cynical lens, otherwise I wouldn’t have had so much fun watching it
@camerondodge2070
@camerondodge2070 Жыл бұрын
I stayed away from Bell's filmography for a while, and I don't know why. Most of his stuff is alright, and occasionally he'll put out something good. His work isn't any worse than 80% of the horror movies that get released each year. Plus, he does seem to have a genuine passion for this stuff.
@jevilcore
@jevilcore Жыл бұрын
Ngl when Brahms came out of the wall, hairy and sweaty, I honestly went like 😳 ? Oh fr?
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
The boy was a really fun movie to watch. Like I Kinda expected the twist but it was still fun to watch. Haven't seen the sequel though
@RyanHollinger
@RyanHollinger Жыл бұрын
The sequel flips the original on its head. I talk about it at the end!
@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanHollinger oh interesting. I've heard very negative response to it so that originally dimmed my interest for it. But might give it a watch
@Adoniis101
@Adoniis101 Жыл бұрын
It sucked, bad
@leonazar
@leonazar Жыл бұрын
@@Adoniis101more than a Hoover!
@bleakautomaton4808
@bleakautomaton4808 Жыл бұрын
It felt like a response to the negative feedback of the first not having a supernatural end, so they put out a sequel trying to be what people wanted to mediocre effect.
@randallflagg3700
@randallflagg3700 Жыл бұрын
Are there any other *Gotham* fans watching, who lost their shit when they saw that "The Boys 2" ripped Martin straight out of the show?? That made my day. If you haven't watched *Gotham* , long story short... at one point Oswald Cobblepot, the Penguin, takes an orphan boy under his wing... an orphan boy played by the same actor as Jude (Christopher Convery), who is also mute and also communicates with a billboard thing around his neck... and who also has some darkness inside him. (which was what made Penguin notice him in the first place) Anyway, that's a neat hommage to the young actor's first big role; well relatively, he was in only 4 episodes but he had a big presence in them. Now that makes me want to watch *Orphan; First kill* because in *Gotham* , there is also a killer child (with a porcelaine doll mask) called "Orphan" , almost seems like reference bait. Thanks for the vids Ryan
@trout512
@trout512 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of the evil doll movies really miss the horror potential they have. Like, instead of having someone from the "outside world" getting dragged into some sketchy mansion with creepy dolls and usually some kind of malicious caretaker, why not take a page out of Fnaf's book and have a sceptic employee at one of those ghost tour/haunted museum places be slowly convinced that yes, the dolls are haunted. It could slowly turn into more of a psychological film, with the protagonist going back and forth on whether to investigate further and risk the dolls doing some Annebelle stuff, or trying to ignore it. I've visited a real life haunted object/ ghost museum in Seattle, and those dolls were super unnerving in their locked glass cases, whether you believe in the supernatural or not.
@HeavensMemory
@HeavensMemory Жыл бұрын
When the first movie came about, I was honestly asking myself "Wait, don't tell me.... Is he in the walls?" while watching. I picked up on the little hints scatterd around the movie. At some point, Bahms' father tells Greta to make sure no rats get into the house, because they like to hide in the walls. Made me think about what else could be hiding there. But I was blown away by the fact, that they really went for the "psycho in the walls" thing. I usually don't like it, when movies go "sorry, it wasn't supernatural. It was just a trick/a dream/in their heads", but "The boy" did it pretty well. That's why I didn't bother with the sequel. They didn't have to slap a monster onto the story, when the first movie made perfect sense without one.
@jeff_taylor......
@jeff_taylor...... Жыл бұрын
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@thevikingbear2343
@thevikingbear2343 Жыл бұрын
The Boy plays with your expectations for a hunted doll movie, which makes it great. The Boy II is just a hunted doll movie.
@CalTheHogNosedBat
@CalTheHogNosedBat Жыл бұрын
One time I was playing my SNES and my wife was like "Hey, dinner time" I was like "but if you die in the game, you die for real!" My wife then said, "Andrew, you're playing Super Tennis"
@witchingbrew3
@witchingbrew3 Жыл бұрын
I am in my collection of horror pins and was looking on etsy. I was sort of surprised that the twist was so popular that it created a whole fandom of teenagers and young people around it. There's a bunch of fan art and seller made pins and buttons about Brahms.
@MJBiddy1
@MJBiddy1 Жыл бұрын
I always thought they missed a trick with The Boy - at the mid-point Greta has become genuinely fond and unafraid of Brahms. I’d have been far more interested in seeing the old bf arrive and be a proper psycho and how the doll actually has to shown Greta he can move and then hides from her in shame - could have been really gut wrenching about her maybe losing another child or deciding a permanent child, no matter the cost is what she wants. I may have thought about it too Much in the past.
@Lycaenaa
@Lycaenaa Жыл бұрын
Oh I would LOVE to see you cover Stay Alive!! That movie is so silly but I have such a nostalgic soft spot for it!
@meredithlucas7156
@meredithlucas7156 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THE BOY. The first movie gave me the BEST feeling from a "horror" movie. I LOVE when I get to a part that makes me suddenly gasp-laugh and go "WHAT?!?!?". A truly BONKERS twist that makes me go "is this stupid or AMAZING???" Malignant did the same as the end of The Boy but cranked to a THOUSAND. I couldn't get through the second one and ended up fast forwarding through it. Megan had one moment of "WHAT?" But the whole of it didn't really reach the heights of joy I had with The Boy.
@tomato.sandwich
@tomato.sandwich Жыл бұрын
Ryan listening to “Mystery of Love” makes me love him even more ❤
@amberlynnbaker5293
@amberlynnbaker5293 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it would have been much easier to just say when Brahms died his spirit went into the doll. I guess they'd have to think of a different twist but still that explanation makes a lot more sense for why the doll can move in the second one.
@theslanderousgent4475
@theslanderousgent4475 Жыл бұрын
The mention of “Men” was a great point, but more importantly made me want you to cover it! Loved that movie!
@jeff_taylor......
@jeff_taylor...... Жыл бұрын
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@matthew-epurnell1610
@matthew-epurnell1610 Жыл бұрын
I'd gone to the theater with a few of my friends to see "The Boy" when it was originally released & it's one of the very few horror movies that made me fall asleep in less than an hour, I also did not care that I'd wasted almost $20 to take a nap in a crowded darkened room.
@hardygal2
@hardygal2 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I think of when I remember this movie exists is the Pretty Much It crew’s reaction to it and them constantly referring to the doll as “The Boy” no matter if it made any grammatical sense
@lachlancampbell6328
@lachlancampbell6328 Жыл бұрын
Love your takes mate!! As I'm absolutely hopeless with horror movies your breakdowns are great. As another Aussie in their 20's I'd love to see your take on then 2000's abc (Aussie naturally) found footage kids series jeopardy. That was nightmare fuel for early teenage me
@mommalion7028
@mommalion7028 2 ай бұрын
Brahms emerging from the walls made me scream-cry: I actually love ‘creepy’ old porcelain dolls and melancholy kids. But grown men? Nope nope nope nope nope nope!!!!!!!!!! 🏃‍♀️ and I was watching it on dvd so I still cried in shock even though I was at home and safe.
@LittleMissLounge
@LittleMissLounge Жыл бұрын
6:09 The way he says "kiss my ass" killed me dead before Brahms could.
@sarahdeacon2983
@sarahdeacon2983 Жыл бұрын
This is unrelated to the video but my raycons are currently missing somewhere in my house and this video opening with a raycon sponsorship is rubbing salt in the wound 😭😭😭
@deykuzor
@deykuzor Жыл бұрын
I actually loved the atmosphere of the Boy. I mean it wasn't scary, but it was sombre and a little creepy. And that was fun for me. It just kinda is bizarre at places.
@mv3507
@mv3507 Жыл бұрын
As a VCR repairman once said, "It's a boy in the walls movie."
@TheRepty818
@TheRepty818 Жыл бұрын
The Chucky TV show isn't a reboot it's a continuation of the movies. The original creator of Chucky has been involved from the start. There was only one reboot attempt and it was done without the input of Don Mancini. One of my favorite things about that frachize is that there is one storyline all the way from the 80's up until now.
@LorcantheHedgehog
@LorcantheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Talk about a twist. I didn't knew Bishop Brennan was in the first movie at all.
@samishere9620
@samishere9620 Жыл бұрын
Hearing you mention Stay Alive was like a mini jumpscare that made me immediately look at the copy sitting on my dresser
@skmd92
@skmd92 Жыл бұрын
“… and you can kiss my ass if you think you knew where this was all going” Preach
@holycow217movies8
@holycow217movies8 Жыл бұрын
I think The Vanishing (Spoorloos) would make for a great video
@petemartell677
@petemartell677 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are a great balance of relaxing and cerebral.
@larshansson1953
@larshansson1953 Жыл бұрын
The Orphan prequel is indeed complete bonkers and all things considered it's the best way it could have gone in order to be any good.
@ResidentInsanity
@ResidentInsanity Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, thank you! Having a bonkers plot twist does not automatically make an otherwise lackluster movie good.
@JohnDoe-hj9fh
@JohnDoe-hj9fh Жыл бұрын
The fact the movie was lackluster until the twist is what made it good for me. It just settles you into believing it's just like every other haunted doll movie until the reveal that oh yeah paranormal stuff isn't real
@Tom_Samad
@Tom_Samad Жыл бұрын
The twist at the end of The Boy is a twist M. Night Shyamaya Ding Dong would be proud of!
@OnlyShadowkin
@OnlyShadowkin Жыл бұрын
So, I only saw the first one and the twist did shock the shoes off me, but it made a re watch impossible and the only reason I watched it to begin with was, The Walking Dead's Maggie (Lauren) was the Star. In fact she is the only reason I made it to the plot twist to begin with. None of the rest of this drew me in, and as I thought it was done to death the first time, I did not see the second. Interesting concept for sure, but I have no idea where they would go with a third installment. I am a child of the 80's so doll movies easily come to mind, including Chucky. I had a "My Buddy" Doll as a Child, that is until Chucky came out and my Father let me watch it. Though, as a Girl, I much preferred the movie, "The Dolls", both in premise and in perspective. I enjoyed Puppet Master also, but for different reasons. Give the Dolls a watch, if you haven't seen it, it's worth it.
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