Exploring Wes Craven's Failed & Forgotten 3D Horror Movie

[@RyanHollinger]

*What movies are you watching this Halloween?*

[@thatguyfranky1981]

Event Horizon since it just dropped on Hulu and possibly My Soul to Take,just gotta find out where I left the damn thing

[@scottpickering2382]

I don’t know, maybe The Shining at some point and a couple of anime like Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Blood the Last Vampire and Kakurenbo.

[@jwnj9716]

The Shining, The Thing, Demon Knight, Halloween 3, Night of The Creeps, Darkman, Session 9 & the greatest Marvel movie ever made...Maximum Overdrive.

[@garykirby1666]

Pumpkinhead The Loved Ones Them! Suspiria

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

All sorts, got a nice stack of films to watch, like Black Sabbath and Deadly Blessing.

[@nachgeben]

You're being such a sassy boi in this one, Ryan.

[@RyanHollinger]

The real me emerges!

[@darylchurch2115]

I love sassy Ryan!

[@spicybeantofu]

Was going to say the same lol hes got the salt today.

[@SketchySkullKnight]

Treating his audience like they're stupid and acting ridiculously narcissistic and big headed simply because he has a KZbin channel, even though when KZbin is gone he will simply be a nobody who likes movies again. The real him comes out!

[@skylx0812]

Well, if all your generation had to show for it were KZbin Pied Pipers like Philip DeFranco and such. And kids whining in the comments of 80s music vids that they were born in the wrong generation I suppose that would give the Irish something to get snarky over.

[@nova_beam]

I really like this movie. I even have it on DVD. It feels a little “This is what the kids like now, right?” But I enjoy it anyway.

[@satansmask]

guilty pleasure perhaps?

[@nova_beam]

Tight Eyes if I had to make a list of objectionably bad movies that I like that should just be guilty pressures I think it would be longer than my list of good quality ones.

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@nova_beam it's okay to genuinely like bad things as long as it's not for horrible reasons

[@28Pluto]

You have bad taste.

[@pollutedmindmusic]

I also enjoyed this movie

[@allisonfields3108]

My soul to take sounds like the title of one of my emo art projects in middle school

[@lionelhutz5137]

*my chemical romance has entered the chat*

[@DeathnoteBB]

As a former emo child I can confirm

[@allisonfields3108]

@@lionelhutz5137 *cutting thumb holes in the sleeves of my black hoodie while I listen to MCR and sulk*

[@idkwhattoputhere4695]

When I was a young boy...

[@Scarshadow666]

**has flashbacks to teens in movies with dark hoodies and proclaim that "we live in a society"** **realizes most adults do that now, just without needing to wear a dark hoodie**

[@mandalorianhunter1]

R.I.P. Wes Craven, you will be missed.

[@Met9171]

Zero_OR 5 wait❗has Wes Craven died?

[@sosaalexis48]

@@Met9171 Yes, he died while making the second season of Scream (the tv series)

[@TheRealAppule]

Ahh yes 3D, that gimmick that totally didn’t age like milk.

[@spicybeantofu]

Milk ages into cheese.

[@trevorrogers95]

Ginger Kubicz fuck, I was about to say that.

[@matman000000]

I expect a comeback in 20 years when people forget how pointless it was and theaters can milk the gimmick once again. There was a 3D craze in the 50s and 80s, yet every time it comes back they sell it as a revolutionary technology that will change cinema forever.

[@toddgarver5397]

@@matman000000 when Avatar 2 comes out everyone is gonna love 3D again lol

[@Oscar-----]

@@spicybeantofu which tastes horrible on it's own

[@BBmetalhead04]

Real talk though: How were they going to convince town people that the *BLIND* kid was the killer?

[@7superdaimajin]

"He was only PRETENDING to be blind!"

[@aydenvavra2153]

The blind kid was the master mind and he had a secret accomplice working for him. It would be kind of like Jill and Charlie in Scream 4.

[@cyanidesmile7263]

If I remember correctly, granted I haven't seen the movie since it was in theaters and I was like 11-12 at the time, the friend of Bug had an obsession with horror movies and after revealing himself to be the killer, told Bug that the killer was always someone you least expect. I mean good on him for not counting out the one person with a disability, but come on dude, someone was bound to question how the one person who couldn't see and needed a cane to be able to not walk into walls and doors was able to chase and find not just anyone through the woods, but specific people.

[@DukeOfMalarkey]

I would love you to review "The Butterfly Effect". It is one of those movies which really stuck with me when watching it as a kid.

[@RyanHollinger]

Hmm, interesting suggestion...

[@thomasneufeld2035]

The Butterfly Effect is glorious hilarious. It’s aged so poorly that it becomes awesome. Reminds me of films like Hackers or Equilibrium

[@mysticfire5850]

Thats a horrible movie its gut wrenching and so unfair and the ENDING

[@penpenultra]

Same. I don't know how it would hold up now though.

[@michealvega1373]

Hell yes man, movie fucked me up a little after our poor doggo got tossed in a bag and well.... you know.

[@Cliff537]

I loved Red Eye it’s so underrated. I mean it gets more over the top as it goes on but it’s anchored by two great performances with Rachel McAdams and Cillian Murphy.

[@BiaZarr]

Ryan Hollinger, the Vsauce of Horror Movies. (i'm just saying so you make that youtube premium show out of spite. Because I want you to make more stuff)

[@sirenofthesea7802]

Dude, I love you. 😆👍

[@Wyrd80]

Hi. Horror-Michael here.

[@williamerickson520]

Damn. You beat me to it. By ten months.

[@williamerickson520]

@Real Donald Trump He's Irish, not British.

[@onlythelonely93]

Oh my God I thought Red Eye was a figment of my imagination.

[@Mr4thDoctor]

lonetruthseeker When Ryan brought it up, I immediately went “Holy shit, I remember that!”. Underrated movie! Cillian Murphy is scary as hell in it.

[@cupofcait]

The trailer for Red Eye that sells it at first as a romcom is perfection.

[@user-mb9nm7bq5e]

bruh my preteen panties were soaked back when i saw cillina murphy in the trailer

[@jongdaejpeg]

i remember watching that film in a tv channel at a really young age, i was so invested and scared for Rachel McAdams 💀🤧 a really good suspense movie tho

[@Novasky2007]

I had the two movies totally jumbled

[@g.e.gramajo9136]

I lost it at "the vsauce of horror films."

[@burtbiggum499]

HOLY SHIT talk about forgotten. You played so much footage of the movie before l realized l had seen this.

[@tonymata8070]

"Fear Ye The Ripper!!!" I know it's not good but I enjoyed for what it was, I really miss Mr. Craven. I hope that someday that Scream Factory would release the director's cut of Deadly Friend, the real version that wasn't scary.

[@oskar_oskarewicz]

Yes indeed, a very messy, but still a decent film by Craven. I liked the idea of blending 80s Freddylike paranormal slasher, with 90s Scream/Mean Girls vibes set in late 2000s. However it felt like Wes got lost in it, and didn't quite know on what he should focus. Also the timing was bad for such movie I guess. Not 80s enought to take part in 80s nostalgia, and too 90s for that time. Sooner or later, 90s will be a next big thing, he was too early with that ;) Also it lacked the charismatic killer. Anyway I enjoyed it after second viewing, even it's pretty flawed. And yes, I woul like to see the original version of Deadly Friend too :)

[@aydenvavra2153]

My Soul to Take has grown on me I used to hate it but now I find it to be a enjoyable little film. I would argue and say that even a lesser film from Wes Craven was still enjoyable and never boring.

[@TYRANTARES]

"that film did nothing for me" aw, man that's a shame, bad CG aside I thought that was probably the funniest werewolf movie I've ever seen

[@skullsquad900]

Same! I liked it's twist on the werewolf genre.

[@johanjoachin6796]

I read werewolf. I missed the comment in the video. What movie are you guys talking about?

[@TYRANTARES]

@@johanjoachin6796 go watch Cursed (2004)

[@aydenvavra2153]

Cursed has kind of grown on me but then again a lesser Wes Craven film I would still argue is a entertaining film.

[@Kuma-AKA]

Ya know, this movie has always had a special place in my heart. It's genuinely weird and creative. Certainly muddled, and the writing is all over the place as I recall, but the concept and a good few of the scenes stuck with me, which is more than I can say for a lot of other horror films. I appreciate that you went a little easy on it. Think imma watch it again, its been a few years.

[@sifatshams1113]

Would love to see you cover some classic 30s and 40s horror films like Cat People, The Bad Seed, M, Island of Lost Souls, I Walked With A Zombie, Mad Love, etc. Or, literally anything with Vincent Price in a leading role.

[@LucyLioness100]

Ryan could one whole video covering the Corman-Price “Poe” films which would be awesome

[@TTTTT99999]

"i guess we gotta get him back in the film SOMEHAEW"

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

"My Soul To Take" would be a good name for a metal band.

[@MonkheyBoy]

You're in luck, in 2017 a band named "My Soul to Take" popped up on Spotify. They only have one song though.

[@BexTheBoo388]

I liked this movie when I saw it as a kid but it's mostly because I thought the main dude was cute. I was also an emo kid.

[@Ehh97]

The main dude is cute though. I kinda wish there were more blond actors these days. I feel like there are mostly brunettes playing lead roles lately. XP

[@BexTheBoo388]

Ehhh Ohhh just realized he's the same guy who plays the brother in Bates Motel and I also liked that show just for him

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

BexTheBoo388 also another forgotten thriller: House at the End of the Street (HATES)

[@CloudburstSapphire]

kinda why I wanna watch it now, I love the main dude forgot the actor name tho

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

KotaRainBear Max Thieriot

[@Mr4thDoctor]

When Ryan brought up Wes Craven’s disconnect between him and the generation he was writing for, I imagined Craven doing Steve Buscemi’s “How do you do, fellow kids?” bit from 30 Rock. And you’re right that the teen parts of the movie are incredibly early 2010s Emo. A My Chemical Romance soundtrack wouldn’t sound out of place with those scenes. I’ll probably skip this and stick with other lesser known Craven movies like The People Under The Stairs. It’s good campy fun (would love to see your thoughts on it. And I wait the day until you finally talk about Identity.

[@manabluerose]

I was just thinking about rewatching The People Under The Stairs. Wes Craven had a lot of movies people didnt see.

[@skylx0812]

Thats the problem with studio financiers prefering to stick with safe well knowns with a track record of guranteed box office draw. That gets you Samuel L. Jackson starring as Samuel L. Jackson in yet another movie that Samuel L. Jackson has a brief appearance in. Seriously curious though, who are the better current gen film makers then?

[@KevinLuper99]

This movie is great.

[@projectmayhem4376]

Better then alot of garbage that dropped that year tbh

[@Emberbun]

I honestly really loved this movie when I was like 14-18, when we still had a blockbuster in our town me and my best friend used to rent it out all the time! Didn't watch it again since I couldn't rent it anymore though... Huh

[@derekconnors4128]

This movie feels like a Blockbuster rental. Like that's just encoded into its personality.

[@TheSpelledMilk]

Uh this movie is on TV constantly. Don't forget it's horrible & boring.

[@stephiiiless]

Haha yup same i ended up buying this movie at blockbuster when they had the 5 dvds for $20 Sale. One of My favorite things about blockbuster got so many movies that way lol.

[@themonkeyshead7520]

"Or maybe it is cause I didn't have a social life until after high school" never related to anything more lmao

[@williamerickson520]

20 years later and I still don't have a social life. :P

[@brandiahenry]

God I remember this movie... It has been completely suppressed from my memory until now, Thanks.

[@RykerJones28]

Ah I love it when you cover umderrated gems like this. I love this movie. I feels totally Craven. That condor scene in the classroom is so wierd but so enjoyably, well, Craven. There are some definate issues. Like you said it just drops good ideas in favour of schlocky teenage drama. Yet I still have a place for it in my Craven loving heart. Great video as always dude. Happy spoopy season.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

“That’s So Craven” should be the official term for when we discuss Craven-like films lol

[@WhaleManMan]

You know it’s gonna be a banger when Ryan starts out with “my boi”

[@artheaux666]

Cringe

[@gothiiirafiii]

I watched this one exclusively for Raúl Esparza last year. He worked way too hard for how little he was in this film.

[@satrok7490]

THANK YOU RYAN THIS MOVIE WAS A FORGOTN MEMORY THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET BACK. I watched it when I was 9 and had small glimpses of the scenes in my head but never remembered the title

[@ProtoYoshi99]

Ryan, I have to say, you are currently one of the biggest influences and inspirations for me in my own content creation. The clear effort you put in, the style you crafted, and the format you follow have all helped shape (I'm not stealing, I promise, I'm simply influenced,) the way I think about content creation and editing. Thank you so much for being a consistently high quality and entertaining/interesting channel that drives me to keep pushing towards my goal of eventually releasing quality video essays on a semi-regular basis. You are one of the few good ones, man.

[@benlong9431]

I actually really enjoyed this movie sksk, it’s not the best nor anything special but it was a fun watch

[@sirenofthesea7802]

About the same with me. Something cool to chill with your friends on a good Saturday night with. 🍕🍿🍻

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

What's sksk

[@strawberrymilksimmer3692]

I had to watch this movie during those really bad snowstorms in the southern states last year. My mom had thrown all our DVDs out during a cleaning frenzy and we only had an old box of my brother's DVDs in his old room. It was one of the only ones in the box that didn't seem horrible, and while I did like it, I don't think I would have ever watched it in any other circumstance. The editing and comic book-inspired art gave me horror Scott pilgrim vibes. Kinda wish there was more horrors like this

[@drAGONSOLDIER1234]

I very much remember my theatrical experience with this film. I found it to be quite enjoyable. Bot necessarily the best of Craven's work, but one of his more fun and creative takes on a somewhat familiar formula.

[@RelayHK]

Just wanted to say that you've become one of my favourite KZbin channels in the past months, the amount of dedication you put in each video is astounding and you never fail to entertain. Thank you and keep up the awesome work!

[@RyanHollinger]

Thank you!

[@Haskuuuu]

YES I WANT A MEDAL IT WAS THE SECOND HORROR MOVIE I EVER SAW WHEN I WAS YOUNGER KADHGWfgiwUFH IM SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS VIDEO

[@mudlark4099]

Wow....I truly truly did forget this film....COMPLETELY. I slowly realised its one I did see in theaters. I would have been 26 years old then.

[@gamenerd4444]

“The vsauce of horror” Ryan I’m dying

[@scass14]

I literally completely forgot that this movie existed even though I saw it after it came out on dvd. Thanks for digging this up from my movie memory graveyard because I honestly probably wouldn’t have ever remembered it otherwise.

[@damianoakes2592]

I remembered it (yes, I do want a medal, thank you), and I clicked on this video hoping it was better than I recalled. Doesn't look like it, but I might watch it again anyway. Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Jennifer's Body.

[@Slashthekitsune]

All I remember about "My Soul to Take" is that I saw commercials for it. I didn't even remember it was a horror movie.

[@laurenevam6305]

I always assumed the personalities the father had was those of his victims. Didn't even think of them as souls.

[@somewhatdweeb5194]

Lauren-Eva M I think there was some parallel in the movie between condors and the killer(s); a plot line that either got abandoned or was cut out of the movie. Condors consume its prey and takes its soul. At least, that’s what I remember the movie saying that. The father is a condor because he collects the souls of those he killed, and they become personalities of him. The one personality he had in the beginning had the same name as one of the victims shown on the news footage in the beginning. I believe it was Penny. I think the same was supposed to happen with Adam, because he began acting like Jay who could build things on the spot out of almost nothing. Adam constantly said “they’re all inside of me now, the Riverton Seven, and they talk to me.” But from what I remember, the last act got rewritten and reshot by the studio’s demand or some extent to that, and that’s why Alex became the killer in the end I think.

[@laurenevam6305]

@@somewhatdweeb5194 oh ok cool, thanks. It's been a year or two since I've seen it so I didn't remember that about the condos if it's still in it.

[@big_gamer1234]

this was one of the first ever horror movies i watched as a kid

[@dani3po]

I remember the beginning. The scene in the ambulance was amazing; in fact the first act was pretty good. Then the movie totally derailed till the absurd ending. Also, a lot of threads unresolved and important themes (like the relationship between the main character and her sister? half sister? The relation between the family members was a mess) not explained. That girl in fact was introduced as a main player in the high school to never be seen or mentioned again. WTF happenened with this movie's script?

[@isaiahbelcher95]

The trailer for this movie, with You’re Going Down by Sick Puppies, was big for me as a kid. I watched it a ton because I wasn’t able to watch the movie and the song was awesome. I finally watched the movie and basically forgot everything about it... but the trailer!!

[@Cathuulord]

I remember going to see Red Eye in theaters because I thought Rachel McAdams was super hot in Wedding Crashers, I stand by that decision

[@phillipclay5287]

I've watched you for about a year now and I love your channel. I think you do an amazing job of dissecting themes and giving context. I hope you continue to make videos for a long time

[@paytonsims5890]

I remember liking the trailer. Granted i was like 11.

[@crosscontamination5990]

Been trying to remember the name of this movie for a decade. Thank you

[@ImprobableJoe]

"Ya want a fookin' medal?" Having seen that movie? Yes, I want a medal, I deserve one for sitting through that terrible movie!

[@kangaroocourt9507]

I personally loved this movie and like to throw it on when my friends and i cant decide what to watch.

[@derekconnors4128]

I actually love the teen drama in this movie, particularly the absurd high school hierarchy that Craven created where everyone does what Fang wants. It was so weird and out-of-touch. Otherwise, I thought the movie set up some interesting ideas, but doesn't quite follow through in the end. Alex being possessed didn't really work for me; they seemed to be setting up that each kid was a reincarnation of one of the Ripper's identities, so Alex should have just been the Ripper, and fully aware of his actions.

[@nickark4807]

There was so much unexplained that you just kind of have to accept

[@HollandCrafthart]

Yes, Mr. Hollinger, I WOULD like a medal for remembering My Soul to Take.

[@goregrindisthebestgenre]

This movies so underrated. There's only a handful of good Slasher movies from the 2000's and this is one of them. I never knew it was in 3-D at any point though.

[@wendychavez5348]

I totally feel that jab about not having a social life til you were out of high school! By the time I decided people really are awesome, it was too late to develop social skills, and the brain injury complicated everything.

[@Balbis1333]

anyone else kinda distracted by how cute the actor playing bug is

[@Pataganja]

Definitely not forgotten! I’ve always been very fond of this movie because I have a great memory of watching it as a little kid and loving it. Still think it’s a well done movie regardless the nostalgia.

[@liviolangella2777]

I don’t remember this movie but I want a medal anyway.

[@theflashgordon193]

ok take it : encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSc1Ldy47bDNWkwmth3RnKn-WZ2lG2gEReN27eXIA5Ha2MgerTD

[@sophistray]

I've been waiting for someone to talk about this movie!! and while we're finally here, I can now say that I really liked this movie as a kid (around 13 years old)! it used be OUR sh*t amongst my friend-group. and it's still has a very near and dear place in my heart. i still enjoy it for all of it cheekiness and whatnot. there, there's a weight lifted off my chest as a horror fan.

[@sophistray]

i'm sorry, you will hate to hear it, but it's kinda like scream on crack and that's exactly why i like it

[@freyaodinsdottir2207]

Oh, my god, RAUL ESPARZA?!??! I'M SOLD.

[@nickark4807]

"How big is your backyard"

[@TONYGILLEY]

I saw the 3D version when it came out, from what I can remember the 3D only looked good when Bug was seeing the dead kids in the mirror or something visually similar. Other than that, the movie had no business being In 3D. This story might have worked better if Craven had Kevin Williamson work with him on the script.

[@AchtungFreud]

Almost wish I'd forgotten this. I still go back and rewatch the first trailer every now and again.

[@devinharbert6071]

I Loved My Soul to Take it holds a Special place in my Heart it’s one my Favorite Thrillers It Executed the Concept Pretty Well And Truly Underrated And Likeable Characters

[@Sollysink]

I just found all my personalities in this film, so no matter how messy the set up, I really like the characters.

[@JeweloftheWorld2000]

You need to check out Angel Heart if you haven't already.

[@sourpatchkid394]

Juliana Howard I saw it on prime recently. It was like a weird, supernatural detective mystery. I really liked it.

[@Revdiee]

God, I remember seeing this movie. I don't remember the movie itself or what happened, but I remember seeing it. Fascinating how that happens.

[@ChAn-dv9to]

This movie reminds me of VENOM, an equally bad horror movie from 2005, with a villain named Mr. Jangles

[@icycult]

Ch An ok wait but i liked that movie as a child when it played on Scify 😂😂 the girl getting impaled by the tree branch always scared me!!

[@Jackie-McCann]

Before I saw the date, I thought you were talking about 2018 Venom. XD

[@ChAn-dv9to]

@@Jackie-McCann exactly why I included the date 😂

[@supthottie5786]

Tbh I’d totally forgotten about seeing this movie until seeing this stirred up the memories again. I honestly think the premise wasn’t as particularly scary as it was interesting, although I think it could have been used in a more interactive angle like a game somewhere in the vein of “Until Dawn” so you could get more of an attachment to the characters and the setting lol

[@diddykangable]

sadly this is one of my favorite slashers to come out since 2000

[@TheSpelledMilk]

Uh you really need to watch more slashers. This movie is horrible

[@diddykangable]

@@TheSpelledMilk oof m8 i think the problem is that they don't make very many, let alone good ones. Go bingewatch happy death day like errbody else.

[@SlothinAintEasy]

Glad you brought this on you’re newest video. Forgot I haven’t watched this one.

[@jessemc8982]

This movie is one of my all-time favorite horror movies

[@187mrsmith]

It seems like every 10 or 15 years there's like a 3-D craze for movies then they fade out

[@menwithven2862]

Hay Ryan Have you ever seen inside no9 or league of gentlemen??? If so please do a video on one!!!!

[@EmillyOrr]

I honestly don't think I've ever seen this film. But I would love your analysis of Identity, THAT one, I remember clearly, and liked a LOT.

[@ML-di8lt]

Say what you really mean - Raul Esparza was too good for this film.

[@Vicky_Heyes]

It's the literal trailer that got it on so many people's radars. Including mine when I was a kid. Movie sucked but it was a big part of my childhood.

[@purplehaze2358]

I wonder what kinda bursts in viewer interaction occur during October for this channel.

[@zhezhirekat]

i don't care what you think, "i'll just start a youtube premium series out of spite" must be the most solid and hilarious thing written this year in all the yutubes....

[@TheSaintedOne]

Ahh... the emo kids of the late 00's. For those who are too young to remember: The emo fad was basically watching all of your friends feign mental illness to look cool.

[@HankageHill]

my cousin and i both have this movie on dvd and we love it honestly. then again we were the same age as the characters when it came out so i guess we could get into it better.

[@rosiegothicc666]

I like 2000's emo tho

[@Vrinara]

I remember watching this movie, and it's trailer like a very long time ago. I don't remember when, but the one thing I remember from it, is them using Sick Puppies (Band)

[@jwnj9716]

Yeah, I have seen it once and it was enough. It had moments but nah, its better if you skip it. Better watch Shocker, its popcorn fun.

[@chrisw443]

I saw it in theaters and that ending scene with the two kids at the dresser and one confesses, they kept pushing them closer to the audience slower and slower and holy shit it was the most tense conversation ever. So good. So good. I really like this movie alot. Technically it broke even in the box office.

[@XrosHeartless]

I actually did see this when it came out, I was like 17 at the time so I *should* have been the prime demographic for this. I *deeply* hated it. Part of it being a victim of a lot of highschool bullshit, I wasn't really interested in something that put it front and center. On top of it not being very good.

[@kwameoliver2455]

My favorite thing about this movie, is the way they rate punches, I often think about that concert that night, like who does this.... yes I would like a Medal, cookie would be nice too.

[@IzzleWhizzle]

I recently rewatched this movie after seeing it once when it came out, and it was just as bad as I remember. I couldn't get a feel for the characters, the story was interesting but uninspired, the twist was horrible, and the main character was just...no.

[@taywall97]

I remember being 14 and coming across this movie on TV one night and not being able to sleep after

[@TheBrazenRose]

I’m picking up a lot of what your putting down. But also genuinely enjoyed watching it for the first time. It’s a pretty cool concept. A very Wes Craven concept.

[@jai_lyricz]

I remeber getting this a block buster and was so happy to see it 🤣! I still watch it each time it comes on tv .

[@malirstar]

I haven’t watched this yet, but i’m leaving a comment bc I watched this a lot as a kid and i’m just glad SOMEONE is talking about it

[@samlebow7701]

I know you suggested briefly that the studio screwed with Wes's vision. You may be onto something, as Wes Craven mentioned on the commentary for the DVD that the script was being rewritten during filming. That alone should be telling. However, reshoots definitely created some problems too. For example there was an interaction between Bug and Fang during the third act that clarified Fang's earlier statements about Bug having killed people. It essentially came down to Bug's existence being a painful reminder of the Ripper's massacre and leaving everyone who was involved feeling dead on the inside because they have to look back on that day everytime they see him. It's sort of there in the final film, but barely. Then there's the fact that multiple endings were shot. All of this can be scene on the dvd. Then there's stuff that was in the trailer, but hasn't released including Danai Gurira's character firing off a gun. It's telling how much of the film changed throughout production. However, I think where the biggest issue is certain decisions that were made once you get past Jay's death. The Riverton 7 are killed off one by one and it isn't until only 3 of them are left that anyone actually realizes that there's any danger. So in other words, the characters are left unaware of any danger until the last 30 minutes of the movie. It really prevented people from being able to actually respond to the situation. Ideally, I would have had Jay's death be announced shortly after the teenagers went the school not long after his death. It would have given the film a more clear focus instead of relying on teen drama. It also would've made more of Penelope's warnings and concerns about the Riverton Ripper. In fact, she seems to be the only who takes the issue seriously and then she's unceremoniously killed off, leaving us with characters who don't seem to care at all about any risks.

[@Shindinru]

Remember it? I still have it on bluray. Picked it up from the local Blockbuster when it was liquidating it's stock for next to nothing. It wasn't even on my radar when it released and I picked it up dirt cheep just for something to watch.

[@jackwells8107]

I thought I remembered this movie, but your review showed a LOT I just didn't remember. I might have to dig it out and give it a Halloween re-watch.

[@BØØTYP0UNDER666]

Literally the only reason i even vaguely remember this movie is because of that singing trailer thing Tobuscus used to do.

[@naimasaid7525]

Ryan aint holding back anymore guys, aint takin nobodies crap. YOU GO RYAN.

[@flashrobbie]

I saw it...on TV...and didn't even remember I'd seen it until 7 minutes into the review.

[@LnPPersonified]

I've only watched a handful of Ryan's videos so I don't know him well enough to be certain, but in this one he seemed a bit more emotionally charged than in previous entries. I got so used to him dispassionately but critically examining movies that it's weird to hear. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just imagining things?

[@MadameChristie]

I'm constantly destracted by the fact the opening scene serial killer is played by Raul freaking Esparza XD

[@kelseyboatright8494]

thank god. all i could remember was the opening scene of this movie and i could never find it. thank you

[@seardrax527]

I saw this movie once in a bus ride. I was probably 10 or eleven at the time and I think it was the first horror movie that I saw. Everytime I see anything horror I always think of the scene in 1:30