S&C TV | Gary Chillingworth | How to shoot the Weihrauch HW97KT

[@rapalaron6348]

The best springer on the market. I do also like the TX but the HW has better acces to the loading port and i don't like the bear trap push button on the TX to release the lever. The TX has a superb finish. Cheers!

[@jimmynich4791]

A lot of nice springers, LGV & LGU gotta be up there, pro sport, all the Weihrauch springers are excellent really, Birmingham made Longbows were good, a few Dianas are a bit underrated as well I think.

[@nathanburton2002]

Couldn't agree more mate , had loads of rounds through all of the big three, tuned the hw97 and the tx the 97 is just the better gun , tighter tolerances, shorter stroke then all 3 from factory, nicest trigger especially once you do work on it. Brilliant gun.

[@davidpaylor5666]

Agreed, I think the 97 has a sharper lock time than the TX and the trigger is so good it's like an extension of your mind (if you know what I mean).

[@royfranklin6372]

Great video, thanks very much for your time out making this. I’m after a weihrauch HW77K ,I’m starting this hobby at the age of 63 so wish me luck cheers. Roy

[@ryanmccarthy1215]

The first air gun I ever used was my dad's hw77 when I was a young boy. I remember it being too heavy to hold up and I couldn't cock it on my own either. But with something to rest it on and help loading it I remember it being soo accurate! Pellet on pellet every time. Nearly 20 years later and the happy owner of an AA I went into my local gunshop to buy one myself. But ended up falling for a 97 in blue laminate instead. I've got a little Optisan compact scope as per your recommendations and with a little TBT kit fitted it's phenomenal! I've since bought a RATworks HW100 but the 97 is still my go to gun. Its genuinely the best air rifle I've ever shot

[@alanmeyers3957]

I bought the hw97, sporter stock, .22, they were not kidding about the accuracy!

[@alanmeyers3957]

Also, the trigger although good, the second stage has a slight creep, I’ll have to get in there and rework it, I’m a hobby gunsmith with powder burning firearms, I have no doubt that I can refine the trigger.

[@phil73805]

More HW97K content? Yes please! It’s the only gun I own, I love it! I’ve had it for many years. Delighted to see it in the wild 😊

[@Mark-zv3dj]

YES, i would love to see you shoot the 97 k in competition AND also an head to head competition between the TX 200 HC & the 97. Thanks very much Gary.

[@krisdabrowski7482]

Great review yet again. I’m lucky to own both the TX200HC and the HW97K. No doubt the HW97K is a beauty to shoot and accurate. I do prefer my TX200HC but that’s a personal thing. I just happen to like Air Arms. A shoot off between the two would be great!

[@Mirpurmad]

got my tactical version from airgun centre still learning it. it's good fun.

[@grahammacpherson4172]

What about a trio shoot out between the TX200, HW97KT and Walther LGU?😉

[@davidacosta147]

That's the king of spring rifles.

[@TophatOrange]

Good comparisement @ 07:10 holding the rifle in a firm grip (as you mentioned half way) makes the muzzle turn up a little but @ 22:48 loose grip the barrel goes just backwards. thx for showing.

[@colin20cal]

I have a synthetic/stainless 97KT in.20 cal and love it. Great video by the way 👍

[@keithweaver7984]

Gary, thank you for an honest and very entertaining review. I'm LIBRA and making decisions is a difficult thing for me at times. You've helped a great deal and I feel that my future in air rifle shooting will now be done with an excellent rifle. A great review. Thank you.

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Glad I could help Keith. Gary

[@leewalker3221]

Great video as always, thank you. I wanted a TX200 but so darned expensive, I actually ended up with a 2nd hand Hw97K, the lock time is great on this gun. It'd be good to see a shoot off between a HW97K & TX200. Perhaps as you're the TX200 guru, you should find the best 97K shooter and do it that way. So you're shooting against someone who's as good and used to shooting with the 97 as you are with TX, just a thought? Also I would love to see you using the 97 for a HFT competition to really 'stress test' it and you possibly?I...lol Keep up the really great work for our sport, thanks once again Lee

[@kerndesanea6699]

Audio sounds great, I have a HW97k long haven't shot it a lot. Waiting for my TX200 Mklll to come in special order since I'm a lefty. great video.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes, a competition would be great 😃👍. I have the HW77 22 FAC, wonderful hunter😃👍. BTW great video and shooting 😃👍.

[@alanmullock381]

Don't think I've seen a direct "Off the shelf" review of the 2 best twangers on the market Chilly! Get busy mate!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎

[@nolancaudill1712]

Hello from the United States, I love my .177 HW 97k topped off with a Element Optics Helix scope.

[@dullbrass]

The slowmo was great to watch. Yes more 97 videos please. Subbed 👍

[@billwaring6110]

Great Video Gary! Yes! A 97k vs TX 200 Smack down video would be awesome!!

[@Happy-Me.]

Great video Gary. I would love to see a video shoot out of a stock HW97 vs a stock TX200

[@markrichens6893]

H97 vs TX200 would be great. Maybe stick to your TX for competition until you are well clear of the suck zone again Gary :) Love the videos

[@xMrjamjam]

I bought mine in .22 a good few years back second hand for about £275 as it has some light surface rust from the previous owner incorrectly storing but it was stacking pellets no problem untuned, its only recently that ill be doing sone work on it as its been dieseling as of late making it feel like it has more recoil than a 9mm. Gonna be buying a tbt kit as those have exceptionally good reviews and tuning the internals until its smoother than silk. Its still possible to stack pellets out to 25 yards even with the extra recoil from the dieseling though i dont like the consistency im getting. Either way its an absolutely beautiful project gun that can easily take more fur than rabies. A 7mm allan key to remove the end cap and put a 1/2 unf adaptor on the end +an additional suppressor makes it much quieter. Bonus fun fact, blu tack (yes the same stuff people use in offices to stick paper to boards) is exceptionally good at acting as a pellet stop and completely stops a 12ft lb .22 pellet being dieseled with about 1/2 inch thick of blu tack, it also takes away the impact noise completely so if you shoot indoors and dont want to disturb neighbours with ringing steel, line your pellet trap with some blu tack, about 20 quids worth will make a 6x6 inch by about half and inch thick square which is more than enough to line a pellet trap. You can also stack multiple pellets in the blutack without worrying about it blowing through the back though i wouldnt go above 10 pellets in the same spot just for safety reasons, it also catches all spalling from the pellets breaking apart pretty easily too and can be remolded back into the shape you need for your target but if course make sure you have a suitable backstop, for using hollowpkints it stops them even easier and expands the pellets very easily. The colder the blutack the easier it stops pellets, i froze the blutac in the freezer (-20c) overnight and the superdomes i use with dieseling didnt even get more than 1/8th of an inch or aprox 3mm deep and had zero ricochet which greatly surprised me

[@RibsterUK]

Great video... Had my HW97 for 18 months and love it. Would be great to see a head to head and taking HW97 into competition. You can add a silencer! The standard thread is revealed using a hex key to remove the end cap. I was recommended using 4.52 pellets in a .177 specially AA Diablo Field for top accuracy in HW97s. Keep up the great work. 👍🏻

[@darrenbrown9096]

Really would love to see more of the 97

[@kevinagnew8721]

Great video thank you

[@pip669]

Great video Gary . Defo more up the peg shooting please ..

[@phillipsharpe6459]

I have a hw77k in .177 , absolutely brilliant rifle, have a go with the 97 i competition after you have got used to it Garry, 😂👍

[@charlottewoodbridge6632]

Love my hw97, every bit as accurate as my pcp at 50 yards.

[@buijs1967]

I would love a head to head 97k vs TX200. I have a HW97K and together with the HW30 and Walther LGU it is my favourite springer. Hope to own a TX200 some day, but they are very pricy here in the Netherlands.

[@highgatehandyman6479]

Hw30 mate what a rifle. Hope you have it on open sights

[@christianfoster2433]

Fantastic, straight forward honest review. Thanks Gary. Are you a convert as in have you added a HW97K/T to your collection in the past year?

[@michaelcarey3105]

I have 2 TX-200 rifles in.22, 1 MK3 and 1 HC. I also have the MK3 in .177, an HW97K and HW97K Long in. 177. Accurate pellets in .177 are PredatorPolymags, Crossman PremiereHP. In .22 CrossmanPremiereHP, Gamo Redfire, JSB Hades. That's my take. I love all equally. . .

[@jameshoward9700]

So glad to discover your channel - proper job. Made me laugh, 'cos I'm sitting here in my camo Crocs! Now, the HW... I've always been a Weihrauch man, shot them for 35 years and still got my HW80 from 35 years and 100s of 1000s of pellets as well as many bunnies and pigeons later. Love my 100k - what a thing. But I've never gelled with the 97 (my lad shoots mine now). Very accurate (and I imagine great for HFT), but I always found it a bit awkward in the field - that horrible under-lever lock and the proud breach! I've been away with 22LR and Win243, but getting back into my air rifles - quite fancy a HW95 or 98 - I'll check your channel to see if you had a shoot of them.

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Good man, maybe we could start a trend - Camo croc HFT

[@scottdonaldson1973]

My TX 200hc was my favorite ever air rifle, I only ever plinked it in the back garden though.

[@garychillingworth]

Come try some hft buddy

[@zedoktor979]

Love your stuff. I am learning a Diana 48. Got a ways to go but its gonna be a fun journey!

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Great rifle - let me know how you get on. Gary

[@manishkarnik]

A TX200 vs HW97K head to head would be awesome, looking forward to it

[@MisterBaker5]

Oh... and I love the 95KT thumb stock.... only thing it has over the TX200 :)

[@andrewtaylor6076]

Just unscrew the end plug on the barrel 7mm hex and the silencer screws in, very easy

[@philpritchard1124]

Great video, would love to see a comparison 97k against the tx straight out of the box. Been to s few shops and have these two in mind, but most shops say the 97k needs tuning, where as the tx is fine out of the box (from your video it doesn’t seem that way, shots seem acceptable). Anyway look forward to the next one, stay safe and happy new year to you.

[@nigelbrown6709]

97 Vs TX head to head, yes please. I have the HW77k, HW97 and the TX200, but TX for me is the first one I go to.

[@nigelwood3313]

Artillery hold and she will love it

[@gileseveritt1957]

I have the HW97KT in synthetic and would love to see a head to head versus the TX. I do find the 97KT very heavy but super accurate!!

[@kellyngorder7727]

Yes please do compete for us with a hw97!

[@AhmadAthariqHidayat]

More hw97k content and tecnique how to shoot using a springer in a standing position, kneeling, and prone

[@gregophilip6858]

GREAT GUN I HAVE THE KT synthetic is the best gun ever made i had the TX 200 . that was the series 2 model the trouble was the guns grew and some had to go in the end i kept the the kt ant the hw77 it was a hard choice to make .which to keep

[@karaokeblokey26]

Standard tx vs standard hw97 would be awesome. I love my tx thanks to you Gary. Also just brought the weihrauch hw45 pistol as the club I joined are starting 10m pistol shooting. Would love to know what you think of the hw45. Look forward to your videos every week thanks for taking the time to do them

[@owenwilson3937]

Great Video as always The recoil on that is extremely linear and dose sound like a nice quick action. Maybe a change for few months may do you good and help to relearn your TX when you go back to it

[@paulspeller968]

very nice brother . not as windy as the weekend my mate said it was blowing a hooly at southerns . i think both would be very interesting to see how it performs for you in a comp and a shoot out with the tx . i have a 98 i just acquired pit tbt kit in short stroke amazing rifle . however to does not out perform my tx with the 22mm mr leach kit in that thing has become a laser but i do find myself reaching for the 98 because of the looks and the fun it is to shoot (plus i find it easy to load ) tx is still my 25 yard bench rest pcp killer though by the way crocs rock 😂😂😂

[@lefthandscott]

I'm torn between the HW97K and TX200 for my next purchase, so would love to see a head-to-head between the two!

[@jimmynich4791]

You should pick them both up and shoulder them to see which you prefer, I think you shouldn't rule out a few other rifles as well though, like the LGU, HW 77, Diana 54, etc.

[@ItachiUchiha-lg4vj]

Please do a HW 97 vs TX 200 comparison, it would help me to choose a gun for myself

[@hangblague]

Great video. I would love to know what performance I could expect from the HW30.

[@mikegreenfield5102]

Great little rifle. I have two. One with a scope the other with diopter sights for off hand 10 m. About 6 ft lbs not for hunting. Err accurate rifles.

[@alanwashbourne1757]

I would like to see you shoot the hk97 in competition thankyou.

[@ShootingCountryTV]

I would get killed by AirArms as im a AA Ambasador, but, ill see what I can do :-)

[@pydrg]

I've used both a regular HW97 and a HW97 with an after market ceramic piston and polished chamber modification. If you can afford the mod, I would recommend you do.

[@jimmynich4791]

What do you think of the mk1 Hw97 with the slightly longer barrel and 25mm piston? I've got one, nice gun I think.

[@CarlStart-u4s]

do springers work with sticks ? love your show

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Yes, but not easy, we are going to look into it more though, we are filming on Thursday.

[@phillipward4862]

Hi gary I'm lucky enough to own both gun in my opinion the tx is far superior to the 97 out the box the 97 needs a tinker both my gun are at the I think the best they can be the 97 has a stage 3 paul short titanium piston with all the other mashings this tune for the 97 is insane the tx has the nick gibney 21mm alloy piston conversion this kit is OMG even faster the the titanium 97 love em both cheers

[@DaveFoster-xz4nv]

Shooting from the "shoulder"??? You were shooting from your right forearm? I have a HW97KT, and have used a friends Air Arms TX200. I know which I prefer? I am a Military Veteran. I've fired weapons most people can only dream of. I was also an RCO (Range Conducting Officer) and a weapons instructor. If you need instruction on how to fire from the shoulder I'm happy to oblige, for a reasonable fee.

[@pauldodds8312]

The way you’re holding that gun and that silly glove is killing me! 🙈 I was expecting to see some one shoot properly 😂

[@ShootingCountryTV]

My 3 World Titles thank you for your feedback.

[@mauricesmith5871]

What scope would you recommend for shooting in hft? Once I'm OK with the gun I will need to get a better scope.

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Depending on budget, look at the Optisan Cp 10x32 - The MTC Connect 24 (The new one) or the Vortex Viper 3-10x32 gen 2

[@stephenhancock868]

Hi Gary I enjoyed your video on the Hw97KT, can you tell me please what's the make of your Shooting Glove,and we're you buy them from?,because I'm wanting to buy a Shooting Glove Thanks Steve

[@garychillingworth]

Hi Steve, it's an Anscutz 110 and I get them from intershoot

[@rufusdtonebug4049]

I have a 97k synthetic and I seem to have to zero it every time I take it out in the field! I shoot from a hide, off shooting sticks at exactly the same distance every time. The scope is a Hawke 4-16 ir and it's locked down in the recoil arrestors. The pellets are the same, no wind and no other unforseen variables. Any thoughts?

[@garryhewett9629]

Have you checked the stock screws are not loose ?

[@DavidBurch-vg4cl]

Hi Gary could you do something regarding normal scopes against Immersive Optics Prismatic scopes for HFT? (Are they a better deal).

[@garychillingworth]

I'll see if I can get one David.

[@DavidBurch-vg4cl]

Cheers Gary

[@shaunsexton9090]

Ultimate smack down please

[@neilchristian1635]

Never had a 97k or 77 cocking arm fall off it happened on a brand new HC 3 in Walnut God forgive stick with Weirauch don’t get me wrong I had a lovely MK 2 that was beautiful but that was a long time ago they don’t even weld or cramp em I used Gorilla glue and sold it.

[@FeathersMcGraw1]

If you've swayed someone's decision to buy the HW97 over the TX200 you'll gonna be in trouble with Claire.

[@Englishelectrictype4]

Another awesome video, happy new year. I'd be interested to know Gary, is that a standard 97kt power wise or is it running at lower power?

[@garychillingworth]

11.7 ftlbs

[@Englishelectrictype4]

@@garychillingworth it's running very smooth for that power, my .22 is around 11.6 but I run my .177 at around 10ft lbs with a short stroke for quicker locktime. I found 11.6 ft lbs a bit much for the .177. it easily does very tight 5p sized groups out at 40yrds no problem.

[@aceman1126]

Step 1: Get $800

[@ShootingCountryTV]

I sold my first born.

[@majorscope]

Hi Gary, I just bought a second hand (as new) 97KT and what a lovely rifle to use. Also just bought an eighteen year old HW77 which is fabulous as well. I still have the HW 80 i bought new in 88. All great guns.

[@porkster5924]

My son has a 97KT, I shoot a HW100KT. My gun is superb, as is his but shooting mine feels dead. It lacks that sensation but it’s so accurate. Firing his 97KT, it’s very accurate too but there’s more theatre because of the noise and recoil. It feels “alive” and I like that, it’s the feeling you get shooting a springer.

[@davidpaylor5666]

I have a RATWorks tuned hw100 bullpup and a hw97 that is exactly as it came out of the box, love the hw100 for what it can do as a practical pest-control gun but the 97 is the gun I reach for when I fancy just shooting.

[@tommy6006]

I have an HW97KT I purchased second hand from a well known gun shop in Hereford with a Vortek drop in kit already in and a scope . It is an amazingly accurate piece of kit . A lot cheaper than a TX which was my main reason for choosing it . I would love to see you do a head to head with a TX and also see you use the 97KT in competition . All the best

[@26DR302]

I have the HW97 with a TBT kit in it to smooth it out and remove a bit of the twang. Great air rifle and an absolute pleasure to shoot. Unfortunately not a pleasure to carry 🤣 Would love to see a head to head with the TX - a true Clash of the Titans!

[@redleadervfr-v4906]

I do have an HW97 (22 cal) also have a TX200full leather (177cal) and to be honest I prefer the HW97. Wish I had bought an HW97 instead of the TX200. I do find the loading port on the TX200 a bit of a pain as the HW97 is much easer to load. Yes I would like to see you used the HW97 In competition👍

[@6lr6ak6]

I've had a few TXs in 177 and 22 also a few 97s, in 177 the 97s are super accurate, l like the bluing on the AAs but the actual rifle 97s all day.

[@the-catty-cult]

I hated my hw97 for ages as I had accuracy issues. I changed pellets, scopes, holds and tried some different silencer mods. I timbum tuning kit made it a completely different animal. I sold my hw100 and kept the hw97 as it feels so much more engaging to shoot. The last nail in the coffin for my hw 100 was not being able to get my bottle refilled during lockdown, whereas the hw97 just needed pellets.

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

I wanted a TX200 precisely because of the easy strip down but couldn't get one here in Australia at the time. So I bought an HW77 Green Laminate and had a Maccari tune done on it. I love it.

[@jestr102763]

Love my 97k. Great shooter. What impresses me the most is an honest review from an aa sponsored shooter showing his love for a good product regardless of brand loyalty. An honest review from a solid shooter that can really push the performance of the rifle. Hats off mate cheers.

[@kentprepper6392]

I won a field target competition with my 97kt against 5 other competitors....all of which had PCP rifles, windy day too, Best springer money can buy today.

[@silverbackdp]

All that proves were you competitors were shit and couldn't shoot, most overrated springer is the HW97

[@jefftaylor35]

I bought an old (long) 97 late last year as my only gun. having shot it for 3 months I don't want anything else. Now just have to try competing!!!

[@davt8615]

Got a Paul short 97kt in .22 and a vmach 97kt stainless .177 love em

[@alanmeyers3957]

I’m getting one hole groups with mine at 20 yards, it loves jsb haides as well as hn field target trophy’s, I shoot off of a bag, this rifle is not hold sensitive.

[@martinward7239]

Would love to see you shoot a comp with the HW97. Great video Gary. As an owner of a 97kt it was interesting hearing your thoughts. I cannot fault mine tbh.

[@airwolf8915]

The baffle end cap is threaded, it can be removed and replaced with a 1/2" UNF adapter to accommodate a silencer. (Eagle Vision).

[@briansait6580]

Hi Gary, I'm thinking of getting a 97, be interesting to see you comp with it.

[@BionicRusty]

A comp with the 97 would be great. A ‘’vs’ video, imo, is not a good idea. Both are brilliant guns but you’re an AA team shooter so any result would be questioned. And I say this as a TX200 shooter. My TX is the only gun that I’ll never part with. Good luck for 2023, Chilly. 👍

[@bencalderwood1523]

Great video. I have a hw97k, best rifle I've owned. I have the sporter stock tho. Would be very interested in seeing you use one in comp, vlog style like one of your others.

[@bigwill4284]

Good stuff Gary 👍Next rifle on the show the walther lgu 👍 I sold the tx and 97 when I got the lgu varment it was the latest version before the contract ended 👍

[@jimmynich4791]

I had an LGV, super rifle that I just sold it my cousin, he doesn't shoot anything else now. I've got a HW97K that was a present but I mostly shoot my HW99S, just got a Webley Longbow but not shot it much yet. Those Walthers really are superb.

[@tonupnolid]

looking to get a 97 in .177 with a view to trying a bit of HFT; are there any pellets you can recommend to try through it first? great, informative vids btw

[@ShootingCountryTV]

Stick with either JSB or AA Fields in 8.44 go for 452 head size to start.

[@rogerthedodger5788]

@ 4:38 the suppressor was £63.90 in 2023 (11 months ago). Now in Jan 2024 it is £83.40. A whopping 30.5% increase!! I wish my pay rose by that.

[@valleyman-mentalhealth]

@rogerthedodger5788 It’s gone up again, I bought a silencer for my hw97kt and it was £90. And that was only two months ago. Yeah it would lovely if our wages went up that much wouldn’t it. 👍🏻

[@Sp3ktral22]

Great video Gary. I'm a beginner, can to tell us about the shooting glove that you use please? pros, cons, costs, alternatives? where to get them.

[@nigelwood3313]

I think sometimes we get so excited about tuning guns to be honest it's us that needs tuning the guns are ok if treated correctly.

[@gibbs677bg]

I really wouldn't recommend resting a spring/gasram air rifle on a wooden post, this can damage the scope and mark the stock.

[@ShootingCountryTV]

In HFT you have to touch the peg with the gun, scope or part of your body. luckily I've never had an issue. Gary

[@NHGUIDE88]

Mr. Chillingworth! great video, excellent review and even better subject! well, save for the Crocs... ;-) thanks for your honest opinions.

[@yellowbellylincs]

97k v tx200 please 👍

[@PiperX1X]

Absolutely awesome rifles, I have it in the blue laminate but just by chance I saw a beach stock advertised so I’ve dressed it in that for when I’m out hunting as I don’t want to damage the blue laminate. It was as new and got it for £50 so in one sense I’ve got two 97’s and looks bang on in either stock. But my got are they accurate, got mine in 22 and at 35 yards it’s pellet on pellet.

[@glenford4527]

Hi chilli , ive really enjoyed this vid , the what i call the Mighty 97 , yes plz lets see the head to head that you mentioned and because I'm greedy , the 97 in a competition shoot . Cheers Glen

[@stevepowell3475]

Great Vid Gary... one tip...I always us a shooting glove with half fingers, which allows me to push the cocking lever button when I'm using a 97 :)

[@patmurphy8378]

This video couldn’t have come at a better time for me. I’m about to buy a tx or a ht, just can’t make up my mind which. However it will be on my firearms certificate so higher power. I think around 15 ft lbs in .177. A shootout would be very interesting. Also would like to know Garry’s views on the fac models.

[@Sp1tfiref0rever]

I have the silver and black and its the best springer I have ever owned and the last I would ever part with. To me it's much better than the TX 200 that I had because of that awful bear trap button what a monstrosity that is, I have AAs BSAs FX and would let all those pcp,s go just keep the HW97K if it ever came to it, it's a lovely Rifle.

[@shaunharris3690]

Great rifle I have one in .20 cal tuned by Tony at Sandwell Field Sports it's absolutely spot on 👍🏻

[@markhomer5704]

I agree , Mr Wall is a genius with every HW . Only a few mles from me , ain't visited for a while , so I might pop in and check it out ..

[@Happy-Me.]

I have the TX200, Pro Sport, HW97 and HW97. The TX is the best of the lot for accuracy, balance and ease of maintenance.

[@airgunspestingch.8426]

👋🏾sup brAh! Own all three Walther lgu Weihrauch 97 and the tx200. All three 🤔 toss up! All three have great triggers all three are accurate but I have to give the Weihrauch the nod because of the loading port braddah 👊🏾😎

[@thegiantswordworkout]

THIS COMPANY NEEDS TO DO A .22 Rreakbarrel with 25 to 30 pound feet like the Hatsan 125. IF EVERYONE DEMANDS IT! They'll do it! We need a quality break barrel that can take game accurately at 100 yards! Hatsan sucks butt! We need a quality accurate break barrel side or underlever more powerful than anything to date!