S1E6 Never Talk About TURMERIC on Social Media | English | Dr Abby Philips

Is turmeric useful as a preventive or treatment option for any disease condition?
It is not. But when I talk about facts that point towards the uselessness of turmeric on social media, the angry response is overwhelming!
People have a lot of 'good' health experiences using turmeric for various disease conditions, but they remain only psychological experiences and never evidence of the usefulness of turmeric.
In this video, I discuss why the most researched spice "turmeric" studies are not so spicy and are of poor quality. All benefits of turmeric that people speak about or bring as a response in a discussion are lab/cell/tissue/small animal-based and none conclusive in humans.
Here are some links that substantiate my talk:
1. Curcumin will waste your time - www.science.or...
2. Everybody needs to stop with this tumeric molecule - www.forbes.com...
3. The bitter truth about turmeric - / the-bitter-truth-about...
4. Turmeric is very poorly absorbed - pubmed.ncbi.nl... & www.ncbi.nlm.n...
5. Curcumin has very poor systemic effects - pubmed.ncbi.nl...
6. Thousands of papers have been published on curcumin’s healing potential, but its usefulness is not yet proven - www.chemistryw...
7. Turmeric is harmful to the liver:
a. www.amjmed.com...
b. journals.lww.c...
c. www.dovepress....
d. bpspubs.online...
e. www.newscienti...
8. Italy prohibits all health claims linked to turmeric, issues warning for labels - www.newscienti...
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[@drsandhu]

Abby Phillip;I am not using Dr. Suffix with his name because there will be shame by using dr with his name. He is the culprit who misguide people my saying anti about ayurved because he doesn't know his sciences well. He thinks he will defame ayurved and will destroy it, but he don't know so many grt evils came and go and tries to defame ayurved but they couldn't destroy a hair of ayurved. So i think he is the present (Bakhtiyar Khilji) who tries to destroy ayurved. 😊

[@neet6804]

Ek pseudoscience ki degree leke, khudko cardiologist, dermatologist bhi samajta hai. Jiske video mei tuney comment kiya hai, uska AYUSH ministry kuch nhi bigad paaya. Bada aaya gyan dene waala.

[@drsandhu]

Kyun bhai neet kee chte bte,,,,,, pseudoscience pdke to tune mbbs kri hogi hna bda aya pseudoscience bala Kyun jl rha h na tera kuch😂😂😂😂😂😂khtm ho jaoge tum log aise hee aak,,,, or bo din aa gya h

[@drsandhu]

Ayush ministry kee kya baat kr rha hai tu....................unkoo bhi pta chl gya h kee ye philips..beshrm hai isliye isko koi ghaas tk ni dala

[@neet6804]

@@drsandhu O bhai, bams ka adha syllabus toh modern subjects se bhara huwa hai. Bada aaya ayurved ki baat karne waala. Tereko thodi hi pata hoga science aur pseudoscience mei difference! Waise bachne waala toh tu bhi nhi hai. Ek na ek din sab khatm ho hi jaayenge. Lekin ayurved waala , modern science k piche jarur bhagte rahenge. Isiliye toh ayurvedic waale modern medicine practice karne ki demand karte rehte hai. Aur tu yeh stethoscope kyun use karta hai, konse ayurvedic book mei stethoscope ka use likha huwa hai. Aur apne naam k aage Dr. kyun lagata hai, 'Vaidya' likhne mei sharm aata hai? Apne Ayurvedic pathy mei tumko bharosa nhi hai jo 'Vaidya' nhi likhte? Ayush ministry k baare mei nhi pata kya? Thoda news padh liya karo. Ayush ministry isi insaan se kitni baar case haar chuka hai. Class 11th/12th ki science padhlo, please. Usi mei likha huwa hai, Ayurveda believed in humor jo ki ek government organisation ka hi textbook hai.

[@neet6804]

Waise mujhe ek doubt hai, tu ek saath cardiologist aur dermatologist kaise hai, konsi degree ki hai?

[@aswin9607]

Doctor, We need regular videos and updates

[@TheLiverDoc]

I'll try to do 2 per month...

[@lathajes6199]

Thanks very much Doc. Research findings end up in just publishing in journals. Reaching out to consumers and public with the findings is not happening.

[@rynnssk]

"It is the responsibility of scientists never to suppress knowledge, no matter how awkward that knowledge is, no matter how it may bother those in power; we are not smart enough to decide which pieces of knowledge are permissible and which are not."- Carl sagan

[@rajarshiroy9151]

Loved the video and your no nonsense scientific approach. We need more such videos (in English). Am from Assam and find it difficult to understand your vdos in Malayalam. Thanks doc

[@neet6804]

Ki kora bhai tumi?

[@Paul-qe1jn]

I think at least one doctor from every field, from every state should make videos like this in their own language.

[@spazattaz]

Thank you so much for your videos. I have tried in the past to share videos regarding herbs and homeopathy and other pseudoscience etc and often it gets dismissed as "western propaganda". I am glad to have found your channel because surely they cannot use that as a cop-out now!

[@phantombrain]

And a lot of people, especially down south, apply turmeric as an antiseptic or cosmetic ointment or application, as a skin ointment... Highlight that part too.

[@TheSastrikal]

Liver doc... Won't say a word because he is liver doc.... Doesn't say anything about external benefits of applying Turmeric😢

[@annypriya5209]

Very informative video Doc. Thank you for sharing your insights.

[@fayyazqazi5238]

Sir u are doing great job, continue your work without listening to so called Nationalist.

[@plasticrock]

Are these findings discussed by you in a journal somewhere ?

[@niveditayadav9295]

Thanks doc, this was much needed. And on a side note,I loved ur background in the video

[@queensumi02]

You're brilliant! Thanks for using your intellect to educate!

[@natarajn.g4356]

Well explained .

[@krishan4079]

Please make chapters in videos so we can skip to the part...just a suggestion

[@kurianmathew3299]

I am watching this while having haldi doodh because I like the taste of it :)

[@anchitbose4151]

Sir what about the turmeric that we consume with curries is it harmful or it is specifically the turmeric supplements that are doing the damage?

[@TheLiverDoc]

Turmeric in curries is neglible and cooked and is for flavor as they don't get absorbed.

[@sayanAcharjee]

Very enlightening, thanks doc!!

[@CallmeTomorrow65]

Audio has a slight echo

[@simimenon8299]

True true doc!! Thanks so much

[@devangshuanchalia342]

If you find the time, please research ashwagandha, ginseng and musli and its supplements (capsules, powders and tablets) and the harmful effects (if any) of the same on liver, stomach lining, gut lining and overall health

[@adityabhat6687]

Hi Doc, Redirected here by watching science is dope. A few questions here 1) Turmeric powder is used in preparation of food almost daily , but not more than a teaspoon for curries . Is it safe in the long run ?

[@DIvya6789]

Anything more than required is poison. Using half a spoon of turmeric in your regular curries and sabji is fine..

[@drprakashrao8899]

Excellent information and presentation.

[@jacksparrow20019]

Sir I do have doubt my father has a long history of portal hypertension he is diagnosed with ehpvo.. but now he is diagnosed with decompensated liver cirhhosis we don't know what caused him liver cirhhosis.. he has done a scanning 2years before in that scanning liver is normal but after 2years he has diagnosed with cirrhosis what caused this sudden change my father do not drink alcohol he was never an overweight person also.. does ehpvo lead to cirrhosis... He takes ciplar la 40 medicine so many years..

[@fitnesssciencemalayalam7296]

New Look is Lit Doc 🔥. Keep going.

[@rajachakas]

Hello sir, is there any merit in consuming chia seeds?

[@sureshnair5106]

Is Alchorid Turmeic capsules good Doctor ?

[@atulsharma-jh3lt]

Good info👏

[@Sysयोग]

Dr Abby, You may be correct. 6:10 Only 5% of consumed turmeric is getting absorbed. But, I have seen cold getting cured by consuming organic turmeric (dose: 1/3rd teaspoon in 2/3rd glass of water) in water in myself, my family members & my students. Thanks, One thing I learnt today. I shall add black pepper Now onwards. By the way, A German Oncologist using turmeric-derived curcumin extract in chemotherapy. He mentioned this in his talk & 2022 book, Holistic cancer medicine. So, It feels OK to consume organic 8:22 turmeric for 1) Improving Immunity 2) prevention and management of pre-cancerous conditions. A Humble request, Kindly do 22:22 first hand objective study FIRST on people suffering from cold + Don't condemn every prevalent studies as subjective or, poor study. Your h-index will also rise from 24. declaration: I am not in the business of selling any herbal/ turmeric product.

[@Sysयोग]

One additional Note, I got spec during 1st year of MBBS. But, I was not liking it. Whenever I saw a specially-able person using crutches, I felt, I am using one on my eyes. By, Practice of #Yoga I got rid of it. During my residency, I learnt Acupressure reluctantly on insistence of a friend. But, When i tried on different people, I saw good results in many people. So, I switched to Full time on Yoga & #Acupuncture after 3 years of part-time #acupressure & acupuncture practice. [Acupressure and Acupuncture has some theory. Only treatment method differs in them. Acupuncture work even if meridians are not proved in main stream except one study. Dr Richard Gerber mention that in his book, Vibrational Medicine. ] Your dedication towards science is appreciable.

[@GG6_6]

What's your H-Index, Buddy? 🙂

[@Sysयोग]

@@GG6_6 🪷

[@rahulchakka]

You are always telling about what is useless and what will not work. You never guide patients about what needs to be done or what healthy substances can be consumed for good health.

[@manout-kidin8735]

I already eat turmeric daily through dals , curries , fries . That is already high dose "gram" wise 😅 So i should be fit enough 😅

[@CalmDevil-m8h]

Bro i just wish you reach put to millions ... Because unfortunately this entire scam of Ayush is defaming the country beyond international borders.

[@warrior_harry1425]

Great doctor we r with u 👍🏻

[@drebeyma]

Your Father is Philip Aughastin No??

[@TheSastrikal]

You are wrong.... Throat infections don't go away within 7 days on their own unless they are viral..... If bacterial infection supersedes... The symptoms persists... What are you talking about!

[@TheSastrikal]

My personal question to you liver doc whether turmeric is used as a spice in your house or you have forbidden its use at home😅

[@TheSastrikal]

You dear liver doc.... You saying with your tongue saying " i don't have tongue"...... 11:39

[@TheSastrikal]

Your bread n butter at 19:32....😅

[@BibhuPrasadNaik-h9c]

I think the liver doc don't know that Who is the father of Surgery? Acharya Sushrut. It means Ayurveda is the father of Allopathy too. Before the birth of Allopathy, already Ayurveda existed.

[@TheSastrikal]

No need for any of these black labels or so.... Just do this at home ... Add ample amounts of turmeric to any of your culinary dish.... And try consuming it... You won't be able to gulp it in. You can't... I bet.....you will experience nausea n vomit.......

[@Earth_to_Kensho...ComeInKensho]

🧐

[@ronits6361]

PPEEEPOLU ...malayali ???

[@playupon7959]

Firstly I think you should do is go talk to a ayurvedic doctor about ur “info” u got about turmeric and make another video explaining that than just simply hating ayurveda.

[@bushrathachan7116]

Dr malayalathil paranjoode

[@professorarjun1234]

26:35 This can be said for Allopathy as well.

[@bababluelotus]

Your research findings are flop

[@surendrababu18]

with his name "Abby Philips" I can say that he is trying to defame Ayurveda, This noob should know that I have personal experience curing my own disease from turmeric.

[@shrinivashulamani2657]

Hold your using scientific methodology to evaluate the efficacy and working of ayurvedic medicine ??? Where's the logic in it . Allopathy n ayurveda are mutually exclusive. It's like comparison apples n orange both are fruits but not the same.

[@keshavanveeraragava7690]

We will come back when congress is back in power and check if you'd continue to criticize Ayush ...

[@CallmeTomorrow65]

Please kick the BJP out of power as soon as possible. We gotta test Doc Abby

[@garlicmuncher]

Hey great idea, please vote the BJP out of power

[@thelastfalcon4709]

Great idea, let's kick out Modi.

[@thechinmoydeka]

Hahaha, this is the shittiest argument that I’ve seen...

[@Paul-qe1jn]

Every govt has people who believe in pseudoscience. Every party is made of individuals. They've their own biases. Even many of the Communists of Kerala believe in pseudo stuff. Most politicians won't care about religion. But they're happy to believe in pseudoscience.

[@variablex6928]

This chap has no data except his extreme bias and missionary zzeal to back up his claims.

[@RohanRajadhyaksha]

He does. Please take the effort to go through the articles and publications that he has listed in the description that support his claim.

[@NjanVishnu]

​@@RohanRajadhyaksha SEE 7:35 According to him, you would need to consume 3 to 5 Kg of turmeric to experience any effects. However, the paper he shared refers to a potentially fabricated or modified incident involving the consumption of a large quantity of turmeric tablets, with no reliable data to support his claims. In fact, if you look at the research on the benefits and drawbacks of turmeric, the vast majority (98%) of studies and data suggest that it is beneficial. While there may be a small minority (2%) of studies with contrasting results, this is not uncommon and does not negate the overwhelmingly positive findings on turmeric's usefulness.

[@Ankita-vr8ri]

​@@NjanVishnu you have not read him and you come with names that's why atheist call you pseudoscience tunni

[@Paul-qe1jn]

How is talking about medicine Missionary ? 😂 Are you going to call atomic research & oil refinery chemical sciences missionary ? Are automobiles, factories & engineers missionary ?

[@alphacompany4837]

Another tanathani defending pseudoscience 😂

[@MayankJairaj]

11:00 I think this was for me as I was the one who posted about the systematic review related to pain alleviation. Thanks for the vid doc esp in English. But I have to defend myself as I saw many doctors claim it as helpful, one famously being Dr Brad Stanfield. But now he has come out with a video where he made the correction and has stopped using it (two months ago). please make a video on Ginko Biloba ik its not an Indian plant but so many people use it

[@hakeemabdullah]

Gems of info, every point is exceptional with evidence. I really appreciate your efforts and sincerity sir. Scientific & clinical research is enough to believe. Enlighten us with your wisdom. Would love to hear your valuable thoughts on Protein/Creatine supplements as it’s a must choice for Gym goers. Thanks!❤

[@rajsaha66]

Doc, Keep enlightening us♥️

[@mud1t]

You are a silver lining in the Indian medical science!!! Thanks Doc. Keep growing and n u've my ultra support. One of the reason people started believing these pseudoscience medical things is because they got a bad experience from medical doctors who were just paper doctors and not the ones with good knowledge and practice because of high corruption in private medical colleges.

[@deepakmt92]

I agree with the corruption part. It's sad that everyone protests about everything else, but nobody questions their state and the central governments for reducing the corruption in our healthcare system. Basic healthcare based on modern medicine should be affordable and accessible for all Indians.

[@pushpamv6262]

👍👍

[@bababluelotus]

What silver lining ?😏degrading is not "silver lining "

[@parthasarathyb289]

Super good. The clarity and understanding with which you speak is really awesome. Keep the good work going.

[@FarooqAhmad-en1so]

Thank you Doctor sahab.I could never take it though my wife has been a regular turmeric guy.I saw no change,for good or bad,in her health condition except that her temperament became a bit unhealthy.

[@devashishporwal1157]

Hi, Could you also elaborate on if applying turmeric on skin as scrub or applying it on wounds or applying to relieve pain is any helpful. Your video was completely on turmeric ingestion, but generally there are way more usage of turmeric hailed in India.

[@ashreeth]

Bro just go to near hospital, maybe a small clinic and ask did turmeric had any negative impact on wounds . Because recently when I visited the doctor he strongly recommended never to apply turmeric on wounds because it's making wounds worse

[@devashishporwal1157]

@@ashreeth Yr I actually agree with you but was pointing on the usefulness of this video. I think the way he covered almost no use of turmeric ingestion was too excessive and this long video should have covered other use cases too.

[@ishonly]

Dr One video on Amla,aloe vera juice for improvement. Loving your content.

[@23Shubham]

Thanks for the video Doc hope to see you more active here also 😉 keep up the good work 👍 between CPU looks lit 🔥

[@dominiclal331]

It's nice an info so far as our misgivings are concerned Dr.. Thank you.. I am myself a patient at your department in Rajagiri.. Hope we will meet.. I keep watching you on KZbin.. Good lectures Dr.. Keep going like this.. We expect more..

[@avx4281]

This is a shocking eye opener for us laymen. M not going to use turmeric now on as med. Thank u.

[@sumangm7]

Honestly.... Turmeric jus gives the yellow color.... Good dye. 🤣

[@jeshminhaxarika5479]

Doc make video on bad effects of spices and herbs like Gilroy , aswagandha etc individually.

[@astrasurgeon]

For people who don't know about trials, every disease or search for a cause starts with a hypothesis. The study starts with describing the details about the disease. Followed by Randomized controlled trials which is the studies done on patients. When a lot of such studies are conducted, they can be analysed by Researchers to make a "Systematic Review" and "Metanalysis" What sir is saying is absolutely true only because Metanalysis is the study that has been guiding science since ages. Research has come this far because of science. Ofcourse the ancient roots are important, but when science proves something it has to be unbiased and accepted just as we accept other things. This concept sir is saying is absolutely Novel. This approach is new. I think it needs to be supported. Nobody is saying that Indian ancient medicine doesn't have it's benefits. But we also need to trust our doctors and Researchers with the same. P.S.: Anyone abusing him should watch the video full and know that he isn't against turmeric if it is useful. Do not judge by the start of the video.

[@DrNBShridhar]

Hmm. Thought provocative. Many are behind the research of termeric and curcumin..

[@La_inconsolable]

@The Liver Doc : Please keep up the good work in educating people be it twitter or youtube, it is very important for people to receive well researched, scientific opinions.

[@SkillAyurvedaPraveenPatil]

Struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. Ayurveda has survived till the date because of its strength. By your talk we can understand you not studied anything about Ayurveda.

[@DeepuJoseThomas]

Awesome video..as always 😊 But I cannot believe that you actually tried to use turmeric for clinical trial in your patients

[@HowlingDeath]

Long time you took sir to make eng episode. PS : pc looks powerful ☺️☺️

[@gardensofthegods]

If anybody is having trouble understanding his accent he is not saying kokomin😂 he's saying CURCUMIN which is the main component in the turmeric that is the Healer and most people don't understand that you need fresh cracked black pepper and usually a good healthy fat like raw sesame oil or milk or ghee to get the curcumin into your body and the pepper does make all the difference because pepper will increase the bioavailability of the curcumin by at least a thousand times

[@Anityam]

I am fan of ayurveda and want govt and major companies to do research on everything on the lines of science based clinically proven methods ..

[@faizalrafi]

If you rely on science based method, you won't stay as a fan of ayurveda.

[@EmranChary]

Only magic facts will win then.😂😂😂😂

[@EmranChary]

Wack the science

[@maxpayne69.]

@@krishi.0any data on trials.?

[@vemusreeramulu3069]

Some of the analysts recomend turmeric is good for liver disease.Dont deceive the people with your dialogues.Turmeric is one natural thing but different persons talking about good and bad. Thing is one. Why don't all the analysts come under umbrella. I am requesting all the analysts come under one decision.

[@TheSastrikal]

Pathetic that they don't do so... 15:23.. They are ill informed.. biased...

[@libinabraham2105]

Excellent Abby ❤🔥

[@sumitshama04]

Great video sir, pls do a live session to take questions. Also do a video to bust homeopathy which has spread like a pandemic in India.

[@TheLiverDoc]

Live session from January onwards for sure

[@faizalrafi]

​@@TheLiverDoc Hope you could pull the live sessions off soon. Thanks for your effort Doc!

[@sakshisaxena3814]

don't understand the need of this 30 min video ....as we all have been using turmeric as a part of our food and as a medicine also from ages and it's doing only good for us .....and your that point on bioavailability of curcumin...now what u want we should live on chemicals extracted from these herbs .....

[@TheSastrikal]

Lack of studies doesn't mean it isn't efficacious.... Your videos liver doc are food for thought 👍.... Need to be heard by Ayurvedic PG scholars who are scratching their heads for novel research questions for their PG thesis... In this regard. I salute you.. Keep up the good noble work... 😊😊😊

[@psjayaraj8378]

you are saying many studies, why can't you include the data here to substantiate that turmeric is no good if it is added to milk or water etc. Lot of these bits and pieces of videos are good to confuse and some may follow it and go into troubles. I feel our medical field is a big business and there are different sponsors for different purposes. The viewers cannot identify the purpose behind these kind of videos. Govt Health ministry has to collect data properly and establish facts to the public instead these kind of KZbin DOCTORS.

[@lembubodoh]

I stopped having turmeric in my food and found myself becoming less and less indian. Thanks for saving me, doc.

[@terleenm1]

I remember reading in a study that both turmeric and fenugreek have been proven by WHO studies

[@rajeevdas3461]

Hi doctor! I have 2 questions and will really appreciate if i get a reply 1. Does fresh raw turmeric juice has any benefit? In my state (assam), traditionally fresh turmeric juice mixed with honey or milk for muscle pain and fresh turmeric juice mixed with ginger and pepper for cold etc are often used. Doses are generally in the range of 1 to 2 tbs twice daily. Is the juice of turmeric and powder the same? 2. In Assam we have a tradition of having some form of a dish which will have cooking soda or a liquid alkaline derived from banana peel ash. Usually these dishes are made of green papaya or cucumber along with fish head and a lot of soda or alkaline water in it. Nothing else are added in the dish other than ginger and salt for taste. Tradition says it cleanses the gut and since we are primarily non vegetarians, we must have this side dish once a week. While green papaya, cucumber and fish are fine, does consuming soda or the alkaline water do any good or it might harm in the long run? Thanks

[@Interestingvideos1234]

Your work is highly appreciable, a lot preconceived notions in the name of culture, religion, in our society. Good job 👏🏻 keep it up

[@itsajin]

Super video! Hit all the right points!

[@sathyendrababu7868]

Italian govt has put up black label warning.. Hope #Sadhguru #Isha chance upon this video❤

[@TheSastrikal]

Are you not nationalist 😮.... Why so....

[@geethahariharan4405]

Can you do a video on Thulasi and Toch me not plant.

[@skpaanda]

Took sometime to recognise you😉

[@samratpurkayastha5623]

If it doesn’t cause any harm why speak about it just to gain some social mileage.

[@VivekRaghuvanshi]

Sir, please add english subtitle in your Malayalam language videos. Thanx

[@bababluelotus]

Take turnaric with black pepper for better absorption, it's not new idea

[@AkshayShukla.]

Gaming PC Doctor..!!! OOOOHHHH YEEEAAHHH.... !!!!

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

I've come here from Rationable! Another excellent episode.

[@ChristeenaUzhuthuval]

Great info! Thank you Doc!

[@sunilsapien955]

Thanks ❤️❤️

[@CruiseTom-rz8qu]

Completely agree with the liverdoc.

[@joal9235]

Rather than Pakistan, pls go to Afghanistan.

[@east2west673]

Fantastic point "bioavailability".that's the truth.

[@TheSastrikal]

Let's take this up...... . why so much research on turmeric.... Think liver doc..... You will get the answer.... Because they are people out there who want to market curcumin as a potent medication and not the age old turmetic... Synthesize it artificially and then recommend it for use in humans.... .

[@sounds_intellectual]

Keep doing this! Loved this debunking

[@TheSastrikal]

See liver doc..... Again reiterating..... You are providing ample research questions.... Great going..... But that only proves that turmeric should be taken up for research even more......

[@TheSastrikal]

Nobody knows...... Phrase.. Don't use loose phrases liver doc.... Bad scientific temperament.... 😢😢😢